Randle is a great cornerstone guy to have. Such a warrior and so easy to root for. He dragged that team as far as they got last year. You gotta love a guy that will absolutely give you every single iota of what he has every night. His buy in and leadership deserve as much credit as possible for how the Knicks changed how they played last year. Locked up through his prime.
Love the guy.
More good news from the Knicks. I'm looking forward to the coming
Having a good offseason. We are in a good position to make a trade too. Hope the rumor that the Rose and Noel contracts are team options for year 3 are true
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League sources say part of Julius Randle’s thinking on signing his 4 year, $117M contract extension w/NYK is that he loves the organization/fans & wants to ‘commit his prime to the team.’ Sources add that Randle wants to commit now to give more NYK financial flexibility. ESPN 1st
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League sources say part of Julius Randle’s thinking on signing his 4 year, $117M contract extension w/NYK is that he loves the organization/fans & wants to ‘commit his prime to the team.’ Sources add that Randle wants to commit now to give more NYK financial flexibility. ESPN 1st
Possibly the $100M contributed to his thinking?....
RE: I really feel like they have their eyes on Zion
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League sources say part of Julius Randle’s thinking on signing his 4 year, $117M contract extension w/NYK is that he loves the organization/fans & wants to ‘commit his prime to the team.’ Sources add that Randle wants to commit now to give more NYK financial flexibility. ESPN 1st
Possibly the $100M contributed to his thinking?....
A bird in the hand...
But from the other tweet basically gave up $80M by not waiting until next year to sign.
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League sources say part of Julius Randle’s thinking on signing his 4 year, $117M contract extension w/NYK is that he loves the organization/fans & wants to ‘commit his prime to the team.’ Sources add that Randle wants to commit now to give more NYK financial flexibility. ESPN 1st
Possibly the $100M contributed to his thinking?....
He could of signed for 5 years 200 million after next season
Incorrect.
It's 2.7 for Taj and 10/y for 2 years with a team option for Burks. And no one, anywhere thinks 10 per year is at all overpriced for a quality shooter.
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League sources say part of Julius Randle’s thinking on signing his 4 year, $117M contract extension w/NYK is that he loves the organization/fans & wants to ‘commit his prime to the team.’ Sources add that Randle wants to commit now to give more NYK financial flexibility. ESPN 1st
Possibly the $100M contributed to his thinking?....
Very rarely do you see a guy take less than the absolute max he can get in any sport and especially in the NBA. Carmelo, for example, never left a single dollar on the table. Players talk about loving cities and fans all the time. Very few back it up by taking less money.
Are basically results of PTSD with this franchise. This new regime has really done a masterful job. This team is extremely deep from 1 to 15 right now. No, we are not a legit contender right now but I will take our chances on our second vs. another second unit any day. Our starters have really improved dramatically from last year. We have acquired more assets moving forward. We now have the depth to make a trade when that opportunity presents itself. We are also set up to make a legit run at Zion if we want. What is not to like about where this team is right now and the flexibility they have moving forward?
Very rarely do you see a guy take less than the absolute max he can get in any sport and especially in the NBA. Carmelo, for example, never left a single dollar on the table. Players talk about loving cities and fans all the time. Very few back it up by taking less money.
Agree. Randle has made it very easy to root for him. And for me, it's been hard to root for any Knick, for about 20+ years.
And three shots for a rookie to break out like IQ did last year, RJ did, or Mitch did. Grimes and McBride to develop. Maaaybe Sims.
We have three consecutive years of hitting on a rookie. No reason to think that stops now. And last year could have been a double dip in the rookie pool with how Obi showed up late in the season. He could break out this year easily and I don't think anyone would be surprised.
Thibs is coaching. Defense should be good.
Two flawless offseasons in a row from this front office.
50 million for Taj and Burks. Guys you can pick up one one year deals every season.
Also love NNs defense but he is another type of guy who is available. Knicks give 32 million?
Julius is a good deal and one that had to be done. But these other filler guys? Yikes
Cap hell was trading Ewing for two bad contracts, then flipping those contracts for even worse contracts. This is not cap hell. This is keeping a team together, with short deals (2+1), where all those deals are trade-able.
Cap space is only as useful as the free agents who want to come to you. The next two free agent classes are subpar. Three years from now, that's when you got guys like Zion, Booker and Towns, coming available... and that's when a lot of these guys will be coming off the books.
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League sources say part of Julius Randle’s thinking on signing his 4 year, $117M contract extension w/NYK is that he loves the organization/fans & wants to ‘commit his prime to the team.’ Sources add that Randle wants to commit now to give more NYK financial flexibility. ESPN 1st
Possibly the $100M contributed to his thinking?....
Very rarely do you see a guy take less than the absolute max he can get in any sport and especially in the NBA. Carmelo, for example, never left a single dollar on the table. Players talk about loving cities and fans all the time. Very few back it up by taking less money.
Yup.. and when a guy who can get a max takes less, it's a proven recipe for success..
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League sources say part of Julius Randle’s thinking on signing his 4 year, $117M contract extension w/NYK is that he loves the organization/fans & wants to ‘commit his prime to the team.’ Sources add that Randle wants to commit now to give more NYK financial flexibility. ESPN 1st
Possibly the $100M contributed to his thinking?....
Very rarely do you see a guy take less than the absolute max he can get in any sport and especially in the NBA. Carmelo, for example, never left a single dollar on the table. Players talk about loving cities and fans all the time. Very few back it up by taking less money.
I see what you're saying, but Randle did take the absolute max he could get - right now. In order to get more money, he needed to wait until next summer which obviously comes with risk.
And Melo did take a little less money on his second Knick contract.
RE: Two flawless offseasons in a row from this front office.
Fournier is running point for France. Very interesting seeing as with the sure load management with Kemba and Rose he can fill in there when needed. He was pretty competent, had 23 though he did foul out in the last minute taking an awful charge at mid court. Great game. France won by 1 on a Gobert block in the final seconds. Us-France rematch in the final.
RE: Fyi just watched the France-Slovenia semifinal
Fournier is running point for France. Very interesting seeing as with the sure load management with Kemba and Rose he can fill in there when needed. He was pretty competent, had 23 though he did foul out in the last minute taking an awful charge at mid court. Great game. France won by 1 on a Gobert block in the final seconds. Us-France rematch in the final.
When is that?
RE: RE: Fyi just watched the France-Slovenia semifinal
Fournier is running point for France. Very interesting seeing as with the sure load management with Kemba and Rose he can fill in there when needed. He was pretty competent, had 23 though he did foul out in the last minute taking an awful charge at mid court. Great game. France won by 1 on a Gobert block in the final seconds. Us-France rematch in the final.
When is that?
Friday night 10:30 I believe
RE: Fyi just watched the France-Slovenia semifinal
Fournier is running point for France. Very interesting seeing as with the sure load management with Kemba and Rose he can fill in there when needed. He was pretty competent, had 23 though he did foul out in the last minute taking an awful charge at mid court. Great game. France won by 1 on a Gobert block in the final seconds. Us-France rematch in the final.
Knicks have 4 guys in their starting lineup who can handle the ball and run pick and roll and each attacks it differently..
RE: Fyi just watched the France-Slovenia semifinal
Fournier is running point for France. Very interesting seeing as with the sure load management with Kemba and Rose he can fill in there when needed. He was pretty competent, had 23 though he did foul out in the last minute taking an awful charge at mid court. Great game. France won by 1 on a Gobert block in the final seconds. Us-France rematch in the final.
there's also Quickley and Burks. The offense should be significantly better given the upgrades from Elf/Bullock to Kemba/Fournier. Thibs is not gonna do it, but we have the pieces to play a lot of interesting small ball lineups.
The one thing that's really thoughtful about this roster
is that the rookies are basically injury depth. We have some guys with injury questions and histories. But if we're all healthy, there's really no room in the rotation for the rookies. That said, that would be an ideal world that we face no injuries. So, it's just an interesting aspect of this team that the rookies are the injury depth.
And not that I'm rooting for injuries at all, but I'm exited to see what we have in McBride, Grimes, and Sims.
I think this makes sense. It is not a huge number in the NBA context for a guy coming off an all star appearance and second team all NBA. That said, regression is very possible and I think it's far from a guarantee Randle would have gotten a max after the year. So Knicks get cost certainty and a potential good contract, Randle gets a guaranteed payout and hedges against big regression or injury. I honestly think the most likely outcome is Randle's shooting numbers come down a little and this ends up being a reasonably fair number for both sides.
the ball should be out of his hands more than last year. His assist numbers will dip (which is not a big deal at all) but he should get more easy looks.
Are basically results of PTSD with this franchise. This new regime has really done a masterful job. This team is extremely deep from 1 to 15 right now. No, we are not a legit contender right now but I will take our chances on our second vs. another second unit any day. Our starters have really improved dramatically from last year. We have acquired more assets moving forward. We now have the depth to make a trade when that opportunity presents itself. We are also set up to make a legit run at Zion if we want. What is not to like about where this team is right now and the flexibility they have moving forward?
Thank you. PTSD is exactly what some fans are feeling and it's not applicable here anymore.
Randle does not need to play 40 min. I'd also like to see times when Obi and Randle can play the 4/5 together. It won't be often but they should find times to do it.
Randle does not need to play 40 min. I'd also like to see times when Obi and Randle can play the 4/5 together. It won't be often but they should find times to do it.
I agree but as of now Obi has three guys ahead of him on the depth chart at center. Obi's gotta come to camp and show he can hang defensinvely or else his role will be limited to Randle's caddy again.
Doesn't change who he is as a human being but this thread is about the Knicks and he finally seems to have gotten the right people to run them.
Kudos to Rose, Thibodeau and their staffs too. There's nothing better in NY sports than meaningful NBA games at MSG.
I agree with everything the people on this thread are saying about the job Rose has done since he took over. I'm sure David Stern is looking down and having a laugh thinking it only took 20 years for the Knicks to become a model of intelligent management.
I'm looking forward to watching both MSG teams this season and since this is a Giants board all three seasons can't get here quickly enough.
Randle does not need to play 40 min. I'd also like to see times when Obi and Randle can play the 4/5 together. It won't be often but they should find times to do it.
I agree but as of now Obi has three guys ahead of him on the depth chart at center. Obi's gotta come to camp and show he can hang defensinvely or else his role will be limited to Randle's caddy again.
Obi was great defensively the last month plus of the year.
the ball should be out of his hands more than last year. His assist numbers will dip (which is not a big deal at all) but he should get more easy looks.
Probably won't happen with Thibs coaching, but with better depth and other guys that can create/score, they should be able to play him less than 38 mpg which could help come playoff time.
Kemba, Fournier and a hopefully improved Obi in the mix, Randle doesn't have to play so many minutes. We talk about load management for the older guards, but Randle looked exhausted in the playoffs.
I'm last one person who should be evaluating NBA players
But from what I saw last year there are things Obi can do that no one else on the team can do athletically. He was completely lost the first half of the season but in the second half you could see his raw skill set. I wouldn't give up on him so fast and I'll guess that he forces he way into more minutes as the season goes along.
He doesn't create easy opportunities for himself with any consistency.
He made a remarkable number of contested shots during the season, raising the question: Can he keep doing this?
The answer in the playoffs was: no.
Smart to take the money now.
Here is my opinion on Randle. On one hand its "fool's gold" to think Randle should continue to take on a Lebron-like burden in terms of initiating offense in addition to scoring, rebounding etc. As a secondary facilitator though, he is well equipped with recently developed skills (big jump from years prior). But I love him in an environment where there is a viable lead guard as opposed to Elfrid Payton and with added shooting/playmaking from the wing (replacing Bullock w Fournier).
does Thibs play him more with Randle? or does he become trade bait?
Obi is a great problem to have, work him in slow take minutes from Randle, and give him rest. He only averaged 11 minutes last year if he can play 15-20 this year you can bring Randle to 35 minutes.
If he develops into a lottery-level talent you can move Randle on his last year or trade Obi before his 2nd deal.
I can't find the stats and plus/minus isn't the best stat
But when you look at the stat every game it tells a lot. The last month or so of the season, Obi was always one of the top Knicks in plus minus. And over that extended period of time I think it does tell a good story. His defense was greatly improved. His rotations were great and he made some awesome defensive plays. I'm not saying he's going to be able to handle one on one matchups against centers but he has a much better understanding mentally of how to play defense and he puts in the work. His growth was great for a rookie. On top of that, we can't just kill a player and say he doesn't do X well without looking at the whole picture. Putting him on the court against specific players is most likely a huge advantage for him offensively. That is why Obi looked so good in the playoffs. When Capela went to the bench nobody could match Obi's athleticism. We need to make teams adapt to us just as much as we adapt to them. Just like Mitch and Noel provide defense and limited offense, you can make an argument that Obi provides offense and just enough defense to warrant giving him those opportunities.
Having the offense feed through him every time down also means that basically all of his minutes were high intensity minutes. If you've got other stars or guys that can initiate the offense, you can use him as a decoy often and allow him to conserve some energy.
Having the offense feed through him every time down also means that basically all of his minutes were high intensity minutes. If you've got other stars or guys that can initiate the offense, you can use him as a decoy often and allow him to conserve some energy.
We agree 100%. See my post a few up. Different ways of saying the same thing.
RE: I can't find the stats and plus/minus isn't the best stat
But when you look at the stat every game it tells a lot. The last month or so of the season, Obi was always one of the top Knicks in plus minus. And over that extended period of time I think it does tell a good story. His defense was greatly improved. His rotations were great and he made some awesome defensive plays. I'm not saying he's going to be able to handle one on one matchups against centers but he has a much better understanding mentally of how to play defense and he puts in the work. His growth was great for a rookie. On top of that, we can't just kill a player and say he doesn't do X well without looking at the whole picture. Putting him on the court against specific players is most likely a huge advantage for him offensively. That is why Obi looked so good in the playoffs. When Capela went to the bench nobody could match Obi's athleticism. We need to make teams adapt to us just as much as we adapt to them. Just like Mitch and Noel provide defense and limited offense, you can make an argument that Obi provides offense and just enough defense to warrant giving him those opportunities.
The bench was just good overall, much better than thr starters and obi was 100% part of that and hr absolutely played better, stop settling and started attacking more..
But when you look at the stat every game it tells a lot. The last month or so of the season, Obi was always one of the top Knicks in plus minus. And over that extended period of time I think it does tell a good story. His defense was greatly improved. His rotations were great and he made some awesome defensive plays. I'm not saying he's going to be able to handle one on one matchups against centers but he has a much better understanding mentally of how to play defense and he puts in the work. His growth was great for a rookie. On top of that, we can't just kill a player and say he doesn't do X well without looking at the whole picture. Putting him on the court against specific players is most likely a huge advantage for him offensively. That is why Obi looked so good in the playoffs. When Capela went to the bench nobody could match Obi's athleticism. We need to make teams adapt to us just as much as we adapt to them. Just like Mitch and Noel provide defense and limited offense, you can make an argument that Obi provides offense and just enough defense to warrant giving him those opportunities.
The bench was just good overall, much better than thr starters and obi was 100% part of that and hr absolutely played better, stop settling and started attacking more..
Yes but compared to even the other bench guys his plus minus was always one of the best. Again, not the end all be all but I think it speaks to how well he was playing overall on both ends of the floor when he was on the court.
Knicks will finish over .500 (assuming no major injury to JR) and will be a 4-6 seed without giving up the future, and have chips to trade. What's not to like? They weren't signing Chris Paul.
RE: I really feel like they have their eyes on Zion
are just not going to be happy unless we sign KD, Kawhi, trade for lillard, and Donovan Mitchell to come over for the MLE. This was a strong offseason, they improved an already solid team that is filled with mostly players either in their prime (Randle, Fournier) or still improving (RJ, IQ, Obi, Mitch) and then a few key vets to fill out the rotation. Look had we signed Chris Paul everyone would be whining how bad the last 2 years of that deal will be. I am pumped for next year. We have been awful for so long that its not like if we are the 6 seed in a strong east im going to be dissapointed.
Remember to everyonr says Kemba was terrible last year
he was 20 and 5, that was his terrible, and he replaces the worst point guard in the NBA, he was 28, 5 and 5 to finish the year last year on 50% shooting..
I can't see where Obi is not a trade chip at this point. Thibs has shown no inclination to play him at the 5. They just resigned Noel as a backup.
I have to feel Obi is trade bait and I have heard he would not mind being traded to a place he can get more time.
The summer league will be interesting as they try build up his value. I truly believe he is a chip for Myles Turner. He would be a good athletic 4 to play with Sabonis.
I can't see where Obi is not a trade chip at this point. Thibs has shown no inclination to play him at the 5. They just resigned Noel as a backup.
I have to feel Obi is trade bait and I have heard he would not mind being traded to a place he can get more time.
The summer league will be interesting as they try build up his value. I truly believe he is a chip for Myles Turner. He would be a good athletic 4 to play with Sabonis.
Seems like Obi would have been traded at/during the draft and/or before they filled out their roster. Sure, if Myles Turner is somehow traded but there is no other backup 4 on the roster nor did it appear they tried adding one via draft or FA. Noel/Mitch can't play the 4.
he was 20 and 5, that was his terrible, and he replaces the worst point guard in the NBA, he was 28, 5 and 5 to finish the year last year on 50% shooting..
It was a tale of two seasons for Kemba which makes sense in context. Second half post-all star break he was much better and his numbers looked just as they did in the previous year when he was an all-star. Because of the stem cell injection just prior to the season and trying to recover on the fly, second half Kemba is the one we should get assuming he stays healthy.
I can’t say that I love the extension simply because he was SO bad
in the postseason that I would’ve preferred to see Randle do it again before I extended him. (Yes, I know that would be more expensive.) But I’m not going to kill it. There’s just more risk going in. I truly hope that he can pick up where he left off and that the depth of the roster, as well as an improving RJ and Obi, takes some of the load off of his shoulders.
really like the Walker move but I wouldn't assume his knee is "fine". He looked absolutely awful vs. the Nets and then missed 2 games due to the knee and Woj noted when the OKC deal went down that they had doubts his knee would hold up enough for him to be a major contributor for the length of the deal. I suspect he'll be a bit of a cocktease, good stretch of games, games missed due to the knee and games in between.
really like the Walker move but I wouldn't assume his knee is "fine". He looked absolutely awful vs. the Nets and then missed 2 games due to the knee and Woj noted when the OKC deal went down that they had doubts his knee would hold up enough for him to be a major contributor for the length of the deal. I suspect he'll be a bit of a cocktease, good stretch of games, games missed due to the knee and games in between.
Agreed but to put that in perspective, Walker is coming over to be a major contributor this season instead of being a savior with the burden of carrying the team to success. Given both his and Rose's recent injury history and the need to managed their minute, I bet that Luca Vildoza is given a bigger role in the rotation than most would suspect
Hawks so totally curb-stomped the Knicks (and looked so good in the playoffs in general). I refuse to put the Knicks ahead of them. I do not see them as a fluke at all.
really like the Walker move but I wouldn't assume his knee is "fine". He looked absolutely awful vs. the Nets and then missed 2 games due to the knee and Woj noted when the OKC deal went down that they had doubts his knee would hold up enough for him to be a major contributor for the length of the deal. I suspect he'll be a bit of a cocktease, good stretch of games, games missed due to the knee and games in between.
Agreed but to put that in perspective, Walker is coming over to be a major contributor this season instead of being a savior with the burden of carrying the team to success. Given both his and Rose's recent injury history and the need to managed their minute, I bet that Luca Vildoza is given a bigger role in the rotation than most would suspect
They also have IQ. I know some think he can be developed into a PG but I still see him as more of a Lou Williams 2.0.
Hawks so totally curb-stomped the Knicks (and looked so good in the playoffs in general). I refuse to put the Knicks ahead of them. I do not see them as a fluke at all.
They also went and beat the top seeded Sixers. They're pretty legit.
He didn't play back-to-back games in Boston, and I read he's already had 3 stem cell treatments on his knee.
Kemba fans, and Kemba himself say he needs time to rest. He did not have an offseason last year between the schedule and playing in the World Cup for team USA.
The only concern I have for kemba is can he give us 55 games. He already showed he can still play.
Walker is coming over to be a major contributor this season instead of being a savior with the burden of carrying the team to success.
that Walker's role as the primary playmaker for team will be a major contributor to the team's success but he isn't the only playmaker on the roster (like he would have been if he joined before last year's season opener) and there is now sufficient playmaking ability from others in the starting lineup to make his absence from the lineup more easily manageable for the Knicks.
12 regular-season games shot 56% from the field, 44% from 3.
I'd like to see him shoot less 3's (while keeping it part of his game) and see Thibs and Co. try to adjust what they do a bit when he's in vs. Randle. I think part of Obi's issues stemmed from the lack of adjustment to the offense. He's not randle, different skillsets. Also would make sense to push the pace more when Obi is in there.
RE: If his knee is arthritic, he will never be fine
He didn't play back-to-back games in Boston, and I read he's already had 3 stem cell treatments on his knee.
Kemba fans, and Kemba himself say he needs time to rest. He did not have an offseason last year between the schedule and playing in the World Cup for team USA.
The only concern I have for kemba is can he give us 55 games. He already showed he can still play.
A big part of the problem for him last year was the rush start to the season and then he rushed back and it just never worked..
Hawks so totally curb-stomped the Knicks (and looked so good in the playoffs in general). I refuse to put the Knicks ahead of them. I do not see them as a fluke at all.
Fluke is too strong but I do think they played a bit over their heads. Kevin Huerter generally sucks ass - doubt he plays the way he did in the playoffs for an extended period of time.
we need two PFs, don’t we? This entire roster is built now to keep everyone fresh, and hopefully he makes the most of some increased minutes this year.
Hawks so totally curb-stomped the Knicks (and looked so good in the playoffs in general). I refuse to put the Knicks ahead of them. I do not see them as a fluke at all.
I totally agree. And love him or hate him, Trae Young is a star on his way to becoming a superstar.
Hawks so totally curb-stomped the Knicks (and looked so good in the playoffs in general). I refuse to put the Knicks ahead of them. I do not see them as a fluke at all.
Fluke is too strong but I do think they played a bit over their heads. Kevin Huerter generally sucks ass - doubt he plays the way he did in the playoffs for an extended period of time.
Check their record/numbers once McMillen took over. Assuming Young is healthy they will be very good.
Nets but susceptibility to injury and long term outlook isn't fantastic. Still, its smart gamble to go for it and impressive to execute their roster plan as they have.
Bucks for obvious reasons.
Philly although this is somewhat in flux with Embiid always being an injury risk and also very dependent on the Simmons trade haul.
Atlanta is young, talented and deep. Plus Nate Mac is an outstanding coach. I see no reason to question them being in the top 4.
Miami. Much of this depends on how long Lowry stays in the upper tier, but one would think this is a 50 win team at a minimum.
I would NOT rank Boston, Washington, Indiana or anyone else above NYK.
Anyone who is saying they are not legit is clueless about basketball. They absolutely dominated the Knicks and deserved to win. They played hard, they were coached well, played good defense. I hate Trae young, but he is a game changer. Hawks are fo real and they had so many injury issues throughout the year last year. If they stay healthy to me they are the 4th best team in the east and maybe better than Philly. Even the kid they drafted from USC showed some quality minutes towards the end of the year.
With Collins back I put the Hawks in the top 3 in the east
I think the Hawks are legit and would pick them above the Knicks so don't take this wrong way, but way does everyone talk up Reddish so much? He shot below 40% at Duke and both years with ATL (he was hurt this year but still a 20+ game sample size). Why do we think he's good?
I think the Hawks are legit and would pick them above the Knicks so don't take this wrong way, but way does everyone talk up Reddish so much? He shot below 40% at Duke and both years with ATL (he was hurt this year but still a 20+ game sample size). Why do we think he's good?
I think it's as simple as huge HS prospects are given more leash/interest. Finished the year well (including the playoffs) giving some "hope" to him figuring it out.
I think the Hawks are legit and would pick them above the Knicks so don't take this wrong way, but way does everyone talk up Reddish so much? He shot below 40% at Duke and both years with ATL (he was hurt this year but still a 20+ game sample size). Why do we think he's good?
Totally agree. Reddish has his moments and totally looks the part but I don't think he has the necessary mindset for sustainable success. He has a little bit of Deangelo Russell in him in that he has talent and wants to be a star, acts like a star...but has very little of the necessary intangibles to actually be a star.
. Via NBA insider Marc Stein: “The Mavs have zero interest in Schroder. It’s staggering that he turned down the 84M offer from the Lakers. This is tough to watch, there’s been so little Schroder discussion. Tough stuff, tough to watch.”
Clemson
Senior
Power Forward
6'8.5" | 234 | Wingspan: 7’0.5” | Standing Reach: 8’11”
Age on draft night: 22.5
Signed with: New York Knicks
John Hollinger wrote that Simms “might be the most underrated player in the draft.” He had great numbers at Clemson and has the combination of size and skill that most teams covet in a big man. Alas, he’s not a great athlete and that caused him to slide.
Simms will join the Knicks’ Summer League roster. But with New York having drafted three players — Quentin Grimes, Miles McBride and Jericho Sims — making the team will be an uphill climb for Simms.
I think Simms might be the most underrated player in the draft. He was a four-year starter in the ACC, but managed to stay entirely under the radar; when people talk about Clemson sports they aren’t discussing the basketball team.
Nonetheless, every time I watched ACC tape I kept thinking “this guy is pretty good.“ Simms was quietly solid at the G League elite camp as well, and I was surprised he didn’t get the call to the main combine.
Measuring 6-foot-7 1/2 in socks with a 7-foot ¼ wingspan, Simms has the size and frame to play power forward but offers a surprising amount of skill at that spot. He shot 40.0 percent on 3s as a senior and 82.5 percent from the line, and his development as a passer is worth noting as well (5.7 dimes per 100 in ACC games).
Simms isn’t an amazing freak or anything; he’s a bit thick and slow and often played at 5 for Clemson. It’s possible he’s just not athletic enough for the league. Nonetheless, he likely can fill the forward position with just enough skill, playmaking and size to get you through 15 minutes a night, and there’s a chance he could develop into more.
. Via NBA insider Marc Stein: “The Mavs have zero interest in Schroder. It’s staggering that he turned down the 84M offer from the Lakers. This is tough to watch, there’s been so little Schroder discussion. Tough stuff, tough to watch.”
It's an incredible story. Either his agent is am absolute knucklehead or he himself is.
so the 2nd team in the East as far as I'm concerned.
Still don't have anyone that can guard Trae but Fournier and Kemba could help a lot taking advantage of his defensive weaknesses.
Obi taking a step forward would be big IMO to matchup better against them. It already helps to have way better outside shooters at G but if you can play Obi / Randle 4 and 5 you could maybe make Capela sit...
have to believe Schroder is at fault here. So little interest around the league and Magic Johnson taking shots at him. Has to be something going on there.
Didn't Schroder not want to go to LA to begin with?
so the 2nd team in the East as far as I'm concerned.
Still don't have anyone that can guard Trae but Fournier and Kemba could help a lot taking advantage of his defensive weaknesses.
Obi taking a step forward would be big IMO to matchup better against them. It already helps to have way better outside shooters at G but if you can play Obi / Randle 4 and 5 you could maybe make Capela sit...
You have the Hawks ahead of either the defending champs or the Nets? I couldn't go that far. But 3-4 range for sure.
RE: I like the Hawks better than Boston or the 76ers
so the 2nd team in the East as far as I'm concerned.
Still don't have anyone that can guard Trae but Fournier and Kemba could help a lot taking advantage of his defensive weaknesses.
Obi taking a step forward would be big IMO to matchup better against them. It already helps to have way better outside shooters at G but if you can play Obi / Randle 4 and 5 you could maybe make Capela sit...
what does Boston have to do with top 2 in the east?
Based on my BORD$ ratings, only six free agents remain who project to deliver more than $6 million in value for 2021-22: Pelicans restricted free agents Josh Hart, Bulls restricted free agent Lauri Markkanen, Lakers point guard Dennis Schröder, Nuggets power forward Paul Millsap, Clippers guard Reggie Jackson and Warriors forward Kelly Oubre.
At the moment, the club has room for a couple two-way players and another player on a standard NBA deal. But they have to agree to terms with McBride and Jericho Sims. Assuming they reach deals with both players, there will be room for another player on either a standard NBA deal or two-way contract.
The Knicks and Walker are expected to agree on a two-year deal worth roughly $8 million annually, a source confirmed.
This means Walker is expected to take up the rest of the Knicks’ cap space.
They will have to use exceptions to sign the 15th player. The Knicks have the $4.9 million room exception and can use veteran’s minimum exceptions.
“Joel Embiid has reached out to him several times since the end of the season,” NBA reporter Jason Dumas said during a recent radio appearance. “He hasn’t returned Joel Embiid’s calls. He hasn’t been in touch with many other of the players, and he’s essentially taken a step back and said, ‘Hey, all my communication is going to be through my agent.”
The Knicks will have the luxury of splitting PG time with three talented players:
Kemba, DRose, and IQ. Kemba can play 20, Rose 20 and IQ 8. Quickley is not a pure point but can definitely play the position at the NBA level.
And even if Thibs does not need to keep Drose and Kemba's minutes down that far, he could go 24 and 24 and get IQ his 15-20 at the two.
The depth on this team is very impressive. At the 2/3 we have RJ, IQ, Burks, Fournier -- someone is not going to be happy with minutes at a premium.
“Joel Embiid has reached out to him several times since the end of the season,” NBA reporter Jason Dumas said during a recent radio appearance. “He hasn’t returned Joel Embiid’s calls. He hasn’t been in touch with many other of the players, and he’s essentially taken a step back and said, ‘Hey, all my communication is going to be through my agent.”
“Joel Embiid has reached out to him several times since the end of the season,” NBA reporter Jason Dumas said during a recent radio appearance. “He hasn’t returned Joel Embiid’s calls. He hasn’t been in touch with many other of the players, and he’s essentially taken a step back and said, ‘Hey, all my communication is going to be through my agent.”
Don't they have a full 15 assuming the rookies sign? Just sorting into a 3 deep for ease of reference:
C - Mitch/Noel/Taj
PF - JR/Obi/Knox
SF - Fournier/Burks/Grimes
SG - RJ/IQ/Vildoza
PG - Kemba/Rose/Deuce
Guessing the two-ways are Pinson and Sims.
That's the thing. The 2nd round picks can have a 2 way deal and go to the G League. So a decision has to he made if it'll be more productive for them to practice with the team or play in games in the G League.
deals don't count against the 15 man. Guaranteed deal players can still be sent to the Gleague. There is even one roster spot allowed to house an NBA veteran with 5 or more NBA seasons (this is new and began this past season). So yes, they could sign Sims to a guaranteed deal and still have him appear in G-League games.
For those who subscribe to the Athletic, they just posted a really good write up of the Knicks free agency by Partnow, Vecenie, and Leroux. Upshot is you can quibble on the margins but everyone thinks they have a coherent plan and haven't mortgaged the future, which is a good place to be.
don't think Zach Harper is purposely hating on the Knicks (I don't think he updated any of his grades) but how do you have a published "grade the moves" piece and then not update when things like guaranteed years are released? I too didn't "love" Burks/Noel/Rose at 3 guaranteed each or Fournier at 4... but now we know the actual deals...
Knicks only have 4.9 million they can spend and they just added Kemba Walker to go with Derrick Rose. They aren't adding Schroeder. The starting lineup is (obviously Thibs is weird sometimes with Mitch but...
Good read for sure. The one point I don't really agree with is that the Heat are clearly a tier above the Knicks. They might better than the Knicks next year but last season the two teams were roughly equal. Lowry is 35 years old and for the first time started to decline a bit (albeit not much) last year.
Would anyone really be surprised though if a healthy Kemba is better next year than Lowry? Not to mention the Knicks added Fournier as well and have two rookies who showed promise and should in theory be better in year 2.
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so the 2nd team in the East as far as I'm concerned.
Still don't have anyone that can guard Trae but Fournier and Kemba could help a lot taking advantage of his defensive weaknesses.
Obi taking a step forward would be big IMO to matchup better against them. It already helps to have way better outside shooters at G but if you can play Obi / Randle 4 and 5 you could maybe make Capela sit...
You have the Hawks ahead of either the defending champs or the Nets? I couldn't go that far. But 3-4 range for sure.
Yeah Hawks 3 my bad lol. I was thinking the Bucks, selective memory on the the Nets as it pains me to watch them be as good as they are. But I could easily see the Hawks taking them in the playoffs if their young players all improve and the Nets have any health issues (which I wouldn't call unlikely)
think the Heat are better than the Knicks but an entire "tier"? That I disagree with. Like I said above I'd go
Nets/Bucks
Sixers/Hawks
and then 5 teams that are of roughly similar talent levels. I give the nod to Miami because we've seen that group raise their level of play (and Lowry and Tucker are battle-tested) but I wouldn't bet money they will finish with a record far better than the Knicks. For both teams losing Butler or Randle would be crippling.
yes it is a big if, but if Kemba is healthy is hr the best player to change teams this free agency?
I don't personally think it's realistic to believe Walker will suddenly be healthy. 2 teams felt otherwise (and he seemingly does too) so I'd say the best players to switch teams are an uninspiring group of Lowry (who yes, I'd take over Walker), Lonzo, Graham and DeRozan.
I'm down on the Sixers although not my favorite matchup for the Knicks
I actually like how the Knicks matchup against the Nets the best of the big teams.
I think the Sixers are in bad shape unless Simmons gets his shit sorted out. Which has to be at best a toss up as I see it. But if he does, they are as good as anyone
getting his FT% up to 78% was huge for me and the 3's came to a very respectable level.
I think he could really shine in Chicago (or could have in NY) but is honestly a better fit in Chicago.
But yeah I think it's Lowry for me as the biggest impact. If he gels well with that team I could see them winning the East (although i'd put them 4 or 5 in ranking) but yeah if they do compete it will because he had a major impact. You can never rule out the Heat, Riley is a real wizard. I can't believe we ever let him out of NY
I don't personally think it's realistic to believe Walker will suddenly be healthy. 2 teams felt otherwise (and he seemingly does too) so I'd say the best players to switch teams are an uninspiring group of Lowry (who yes, I'd take over Walker), Lonzo, Graham and DeRozan.
I think that's a pretty grounded take. If we didn't have Rose in the fold I'd be nervous about relying on Kemba to take us to another level. Having both of them is a nice situation.
yes it is a big if, but if Kemba is healthy is hr the best player to change teams this free agency?
I don't personally think it's realistic to believe Walker will suddenly be healthy. 2 teams felt otherwise (and he seemingly does too) so I'd say the best players to switch teams are an uninspiring group of Lowry (who yes, I'd take over Walker), Lonzo, Graham and DeRozan.
Thats completely fair and i agree i dont think we get a completely healthy walker but i think 85 to 90 percent is realistic
I don't personally think it's realistic to believe Walker will suddenly be healthy. 2 teams felt otherwise (and he seemingly does too) so I'd say the best players to switch teams are an uninspiring group of Lowry (who yes, I'd take over Walker), Lonzo, Graham and DeRozan.
I think that's a pretty grounded take. If we didn't have Rose in the fold I'd be nervous about relying on Kemba to take us to another level. Having both of them is a nice situation.
Yep Charlotte and Boston were counting on him to play 30+ minutes we won't be. We are probably looking for more in the 20-25 range. So while his knees are a huge question mark and can be a ticking time bomb, the time management should help. Also this off season will be the most rest he's had in 3 years.
IMO, it's Nets & Bucks at the top...then Heat, Sixers, Knicks, Hawks in some order...then Celts Bulls Raptors Pacers. I think Detroit might surprise this season.
IMO, it's Nets & Bucks at the top...then Heat, Sixers, Knicks, Hawks in some order...then Celts Bulls Raptors Pacers. I think Detroit might surprise this season.
Agree with this, I think hawks are now being overrated based on a nice postseason run. The Hawks were awesome the second half of the season but it’s not like they were significantly better record wise than the Heat and Knicks, it was a dead heat for the last 20 games or so. The Hawks are running it back with the same team while basically everyone else in the East playoff race improved their teams.
And a huge part of that nice post-season run by the Hawks
was arguably one of the biggest post-season choke jobs in the last five years by Philly. I think the Hawks deserved most of the credit they are been given in this thread but not all of it...
IMO, it's Nets & Bucks at the top...then Heat, Sixers, Knicks, Hawks in some order...then Celts Bulls Raptors Pacers. I think Detroit might surprise this season.
Agree with this, I think hawks are now being overrated based on a nice postseason run. The Hawks were awesome the second half of the season but it’s not like they were significantly better record wise than the Heat and Knicks, it was a dead heat for the last 20 games or so. The Hawks are running it back with the same team while basically everyone else in the East playoff race improved their teams.
Check out the Hawks record under McMillan. Their playoff run was no fluke. They played like that for months. When healthy they didn't need to add anything. Keeping Collins was huge. They are a deep tough team. However they play the games for a reason. Anything can happen. The East will be a dog fight. I think Dame asking out can change everything as I think it will ignite a Knicks-Sixers bidding war.
RE: And a huge part of that nice post-season run by the Hawks
was arguably one of the biggest post-season choke jobs in the last five years by Philly. I think the Hawks deserved most of the credit they are been given in this thread but not all of it...
Hawks were also missing Hunter and Reddish and Bog were really injured. I see the Hawks as legit and will be better. Really good team.
we are in great salary cap shape moving forward even after handing out all the deals. Most are 2 years except for fournier/Randle and there is no reason not to give them 3-4 year deals. Im not going to say we definitely could, but if a stud did his FA next year like Beal im pretty sure we could make it work.
yes it is a big if, but if Kemba is healthy is hr the best player to change teams this free agency?
I don't personally think it's realistic to believe Walker will suddenly be healthy. 2 teams felt otherwise (and he seemingly does too) so I'd say the best players to switch teams are an uninspiring group of Lowry (who yes, I'd take over Walker), Lonzo, Graham and DeRozan.
Thats completely fair and i agree i dont think we get a completely healthy walker but i think 85 to 90 percent is realistic
He cannot play any of the back-to-back games (10-7 per season) as well as an above normal scheduled time off (5-7 games). Not too bad if no additional injuries. Just gotta be healthy playoff time.
yes it is a big if, but if Kemba is healthy is hr the best player to change teams this free agency?
I don't personally think it's realistic to believe Walker will suddenly be healthy. 2 teams felt otherwise (and he seemingly does too) so I'd say the best players to switch teams are an uninspiring group of Lowry (who yes, I'd take over Walker), Lonzo, Graham and DeRozan.
Thats completely fair and i agree i dont think we get a completely healthy walker but i think 85 to 90 percent is realistic
He cannot play any of the back-to-back games (10-7 per season) as well as an above normal scheduled time off (5-7 games). Not too bad if no additional injuries. Just gotta be healthy playoff time.
that was last year, we dont knkw that to be the case this year, not saying it wont but we dont know he wont be able to play back to backs
doesnt want to go to Toronto or Porland because they are bad situations...wants to go to a california team
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This guy has such a losers mentality its remarkable.
he should have learned to shoot or not let his team down at the biggest time of year, or not just resigned with PHI. I dont kill the duys who are near FA and kinda force there team to trade them to a small list of teams. But a guy like Simmons who signs a huge deal a season ago or whatever and now he wants to pick where he goes. If im Morey im trading wherever gives me the best offer. Like Lillard has at least given his all to POR for awhile so if they want to do right by him and try to send him where he wants (if he asked out) then thats fine, but SImmons? Gimme a break.
If Simmons is gonna be part of a Dame trade there's was always
IMO, it's Nets & Bucks at the top...then Heat, Sixers, Knicks, Hawks in some order...then Celts Bulls Raptors Pacers. I think Detroit might surprise this season.
Agree with this, I think hawks are now being overrated based on a nice postseason run. The Hawks were awesome the second half of the season but it’s not like they were significantly better record wise than the Heat and Knicks, it was a dead heat for the last 20 games or so. The Hawks are running it back with the same team while basically everyone else in the East playoff race improved their teams.
Check out the Hawks record under McMillan. Their playoff run was no fluke. They played like that for months. When healthy they didn't need to add anything. Keeping Collins was huge. They are a deep tough team. However they play the games for a reason. Anything can happen. The East will be a dog fight. I think Dame asking out can change everything as I think it will ignite a Knicks-Sixers bidding war.
Yeah, the Hawks were great under McMillan, but it's not like they were far and away better than the Knicks or the Heat. Seems like because of their postseason run people are just assuming they are a lock for a top 4 seed, when I don't think that is the case at all.
The Hawks were 14-6 over the last 20 games, Miami was 13-7, the Knicks were 16-4. Miami and New York made pretty significant improvements during the offseason, Atlanta is running it back.
That has been a weird situation. Every Bulls sign and trade he's always rumored to be part of it but never is. You'd think a team would be interested but none have been. I have a feeling he signs his quali offer. If he does is he a UFA next year?
That has been a weird situation. Every Bulls sign and trade he's always rumored to be part of it but never is. You'd think a team would be interested but none have been. I have a feeling he signs his quali offer. If he does is he a UFA next year?
I wonder if there's an opportunity to sign and trade Markannen for some back of the roster guys (including Knox, Sims, Vildoza, a future 2nd rounder).
Knicks have a logjam roster right now and maybe it could clear up a couple of spots to let some of the 2nd round guys sign.
his team overseas is allowing him to play in 3 games, but he said if he plays well and the team wants him he has outs already set up to play this year with Knicks but will go play 1 mlre year if he needs to..
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Reporting with @RamonaShelburne on ESPN: The NBA has opened up investigations into possible tampering violations involving two sign-and-trade deals completed in free agency: New Orleans and Chicago centered on Lonzo Ball, and Toronto and Miami centered on Kyle Lowry. Story soon.
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doesnt want to go to Toronto or Porland because they are bad situations...wants to go to a california team
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This guy has such a losers mentality its remarkable.
That quote is damming, esp. about him wanting to go to CA-and I'm assuming he's excluding the Kings in that too-for the off the court stuff.
I've been a Simmons defender, but his performance in the postseason/the dripping of a lot of 'Does this dude even care?' rumblings are hard to ignore. Embiid has reached out to him &...radio silence. I don't see how he's a 76er come opening night. Too much water under that bridge; first time he misses a FT, the boo birds are coming out in force.
That being said, Randle deserves the contract and kudos to him for getting this done now and not crippling the Knicks cap.
Love the guy.
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Possibly the $100M contributed to his thinking?....
And just as importantly, they don't panic and sign 'names' to ridiculous deals.
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Possibly the $100M contributed to his thinking?....
A bird in the hand...
But from the other tweet basically gave up $80M by not waiting until next year to sign.
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Possibly the $100M contributed to his thinking?....
He could of signed for 5 years 200 million after next season
Also love NNs defense but he is another type of guy who is available. Knicks give 32 million?
Julius is a good deal and one that had to be done. But these other filler guys? Yikes
Also love NNs defense but he is another type of guy who is available. Knicks give 32 million?
Julius is a good deal and one that had to be done. But these other filler guys? Yikes
Burks, Rose and Noel got 2 years guaranteed. The “32” is if they pick up his option
Also love NNs defense but he is another type of guy who is available. Knicks give 32 million?
Julius is a good deal and one that had to be done. But these other filler guys? Yikes
you literally have no idea what you are talking about, cap hell?
Burks, noel and rose are on 2 year deals..
Fournier is on a 3 year deal..
Kemba is on a 2 year deal..
cap hell? hahahaha
Incorrect.
It's 2.7 for Taj and 10/y for 2 years with a team option for Burks. And no one, anywhere thinks 10 per year is at all overpriced for a quality shooter.
You're a few dozen million off.
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League sources say part of Julius Randle’s thinking on signing his 4 year, $117M contract extension w/NYK is that he loves the organization/fans & wants to ‘commit his prime to the team.’ Sources add that Randle wants to commit now to give more NYK financial flexibility. ESPN 1st
Possibly the $100M contributed to his thinking?....
Very rarely do you see a guy take less than the absolute max he can get in any sport and especially in the NBA. Carmelo, for example, never left a single dollar on the table. Players talk about loving cities and fans all the time. Very few back it up by taking less money.
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50 million for Taj and Burks. Guys you can pick up one one year deals every season.
Also love NNs defense but he is another type of guy who is available. Knicks give 32 million?
Julius is a good deal and one that had to be done. But these other filler guys? Yikes
you literally have no idea what you are talking about, cap hell?
Burks, noel and rose are on 2 year deals..
Fournier is on a 3 year deal..
Kemba is on a 2 year deal..
cap hell? hahahaha
Very rarely do you see a guy take less than the absolute max he can get in any sport and especially in the NBA. Carmelo, for example, never left a single dollar on the table. Players talk about loving cities and fans all the time. Very few back it up by taking less money.
Agree. Randle has made it very easy to root for him. And for me, it's been hard to root for any Knick, for about 20+ years.
That's a really fun and deep rotation.
And three shots for a rookie to break out like IQ did last year, RJ did, or Mitch did. Grimes and McBride to develop. Maaaybe Sims.
We have three consecutive years of hitting on a rookie. No reason to think that stops now. And last year could have been a double dip in the rookie pool with how Obi showed up late in the season. He could break out this year easily and I don't think anyone would be surprised.
Thibs is coaching. Defense should be good.
Also love NNs defense but he is another type of guy who is available. Knicks give 32 million?
Julius is a good deal and one that had to be done. But these other filler guys? Yikes
This wins the "dumbest post of the week" contest.
Also love NNs defense but he is another type of guy who is available. Knicks give 32 million?
Julius is a good deal and one that had to be done. But these other filler guys? Yikes
Cap hell was trading Ewing for two bad contracts, then flipping those contracts for even worse contracts. This is not cap hell. This is keeping a team together, with short deals (2+1), where all those deals are trade-able.
Cap space is only as useful as the free agents who want to come to you. The next two free agent classes are subpar. Three years from now, that's when you got guys like Zion, Booker and Towns, coming available... and that's when a lot of these guys will be coming off the books.
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League sources say part of Julius Randle’s thinking on signing his 4 year, $117M contract extension w/NYK is that he loves the organization/fans & wants to ‘commit his prime to the team.’ Sources add that Randle wants to commit now to give more NYK financial flexibility. ESPN 1st
Possibly the $100M contributed to his thinking?....
Very rarely do you see a guy take less than the absolute max he can get in any sport and especially in the NBA. Carmelo, for example, never left a single dollar on the table. Players talk about loving cities and fans all the time. Very few back it up by taking less money.
Yup.. and when a guy who can get a max takes less, it's a proven recipe for success..
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League sources say part of Julius Randle’s thinking on signing his 4 year, $117M contract extension w/NYK is that he loves the organization/fans & wants to ‘commit his prime to the team.’ Sources add that Randle wants to commit now to give more NYK financial flexibility. ESPN 1st
Possibly the $100M contributed to his thinking?....
Very rarely do you see a guy take less than the absolute max he can get in any sport and especially in the NBA. Carmelo, for example, never left a single dollar on the table. Players talk about loving cities and fans all the time. Very few back it up by taking less money.
I see what you're saying, but Randle did take the absolute max he could get - right now. In order to get more money, he needed to wait until next summer which obviously comes with risk.
And Melo did take a little less money on his second Knick contract.
I'm gonna have to see a *little* more from Obi before I call last offseason "flawless", lol.
When is that?
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When is that?
Friday night 10:30 I believe
Knicks have 4 guys in their starting lineup who can handle the ball and run pick and roll and each attacks it differently..
there's also Quickley and Burks. The offense should be significantly better given the upgrades from Elf/Bullock to Kemba/Fournier. Thibs is not gonna do it, but we have the pieces to play a lot of interesting small ball lineups.
And not that I'm rooting for injuries at all, but I'm exited to see what we have in McBride, Grimes, and Sims.
He made a remarkable number of contested shots during the season, raising the question: Can he keep doing this?
The answer in the playoffs was: no.
Smart to take the money now.
He made a remarkable number of contested shots during the season, raising the question: Can he keep doing this?
The answer in the playoffs was: no.
Smart to take the money now.
He knows he's not a true #1 option and so do the Knicks... he's a sidekick.
He made a remarkable number of contested shots during the season, raising the question: Can he keep doing this?
The answer in the playoffs was: no.
Smart to take the money now.
Henxe why the Knicks added better shot creators and better shooters to the roster and players who can set him up for better shots
Thank you. PTSD is exactly what some fans are feeling and it's not applicable here anymore.
I agree but as of now Obi has three guys ahead of him on the depth chart at center. Obi's gotta come to camp and show he can hang defensinvely or else his role will be limited to Randle's caddy again.
Kudos to Rose, Thibodeau and their staffs too. There's nothing better in NY sports than meaningful NBA games at MSG.
I agree with everything the people on this thread are saying about the job Rose has done since he took over. I'm sure David Stern is looking down and having a laugh thinking it only took 20 years for the Knicks to become a model of intelligent management.
I'm looking forward to watching both MSG teams this season and since this is a Giants board all three seasons can't get here quickly enough.
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Randle does not need to play 40 min. I'd also like to see times when Obi and Randle can play the 4/5 together. It won't be often but they should find times to do it.
I agree but as of now Obi has three guys ahead of him on the depth chart at center. Obi's gotta come to camp and show he can hang defensinvely or else his role will be limited to Randle's caddy again.
Obi was great defensively the last month plus of the year.
Probably won't happen with Thibs coaching, but with better depth and other guys that can create/score, they should be able to play him less than 38 mpg which could help come playoff time.
He made a remarkable number of contested shots during the season, raising the question: Can he keep doing this?
The answer in the playoffs was: no.
Smart to take the money now.
Here is my opinion on Randle. On one hand its "fool's gold" to think Randle should continue to take on a Lebron-like burden in terms of initiating offense in addition to scoring, rebounding etc. As a secondary facilitator though, he is well equipped with recently developed skills (big jump from years prior). But I love him in an environment where there is a viable lead guard as opposed to Elfrid Payton and with added shooting/playmaking from the wing (replacing Bullock w Fournier).
Obi is a great problem to have, work him in slow take minutes from Randle, and give him rest. He only averaged 11 minutes last year if he can play 15-20 this year you can bring Randle to 35 minutes.
If he develops into a lottery-level talent you can move Randle on his last year or trade Obi before his 2nd deal.
We agree 100%. See my post a few up. Different ways of saying the same thing.
The bench was just good overall, much better than thr starters and obi was 100% part of that and hr absolutely played better, stop settling and started attacking more..
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But when you look at the stat every game it tells a lot. The last month or so of the season, Obi was always one of the top Knicks in plus minus. And over that extended period of time I think it does tell a good story. His defense was greatly improved. His rotations were great and he made some awesome defensive plays. I'm not saying he's going to be able to handle one on one matchups against centers but he has a much better understanding mentally of how to play defense and he puts in the work. His growth was great for a rookie. On top of that, we can't just kill a player and say he doesn't do X well without looking at the whole picture. Putting him on the court against specific players is most likely a huge advantage for him offensively. That is why Obi looked so good in the playoffs. When Capela went to the bench nobody could match Obi's athleticism. We need to make teams adapt to us just as much as we adapt to them. Just like Mitch and Noel provide defense and limited offense, you can make an argument that Obi provides offense and just enough defense to warrant giving him those opportunities.
The bench was just good overall, much better than thr starters and obi was 100% part of that and hr absolutely played better, stop settling and started attacking more..
Yes but compared to even the other bench guys his plus minus was always one of the best. Again, not the end all be all but I think it speaks to how well he was playing overall on both ends of the floor when he was on the court.
I agree. It feels like Zion has his eyes on the NYK too.
I have to feel Obi is trade bait and I have heard he would not mind being traded to a place he can get more time.
The summer league will be interesting as they try build up his value. I truly believe he is a chip for Myles Turner. He would be a good athletic 4 to play with Sabonis.
I have to feel Obi is trade bait and I have heard he would not mind being traded to a place he can get more time.
The summer league will be interesting as they try build up his value. I truly believe he is a chip for Myles Turner. He would be a good athletic 4 to play with Sabonis.
Seems like Obi would have been traded at/during the draft and/or before they filled out their roster. Sure, if Myles Turner is somehow traded but there is no other backup 4 on the roster nor did it appear they tried adding one via draft or FA. Noel/Mitch can't play the 4.
It was a tale of two seasons for Kemba which makes sense in context. Second half post-all star break he was much better and his numbers looked just as they did in the previous year when he was an all-star. Because of the stem cell injection just prior to the season and trying to recover on the fly, second half Kemba is the one we should get assuming he stays healthy.
Good for him. He earned it.
I actually think both guys would help them. He has his issues but I think Oubre has untapped upside.
Agreed but to put that in perspective, Walker is coming over to be a major contributor this season instead of being a savior with the burden of carrying the team to success. Given both his and Rose's recent injury history and the need to managed their minute, I bet that Luca Vildoza is given a bigger role in the rotation than most would suspect
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"considering" Milsap and Oubre? Dame must be over the moon with excitement.
I actually think both guys would help them. He has his issues but I think Oubre has untapped upside.
He's asked for help and this is the best they can offer? Milsap (while still a solid player) is turning 37 in Feb
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"considering" Milsap and Oubre? Dame must be over the moon with excitement.
I actually think both guys would help them. He has his issues but I think Oubre has untapped upside.
He's asked for help and this is the best they can offer? Milsap (while still a solid player) is turning 37 in Feb
Yeah totally. Their only path is to trade CJ for someone else and hope for the best.
Totally, he just tried to do everything himself. Clearly was off his game.
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really like the Walker move but I wouldn't assume his knee is "fine". He looked absolutely awful vs. the Nets and then missed 2 games due to the knee and Woj noted when the OKC deal went down that they had doubts his knee would hold up enough for him to be a major contributor for the length of the deal. I suspect he'll be a bit of a cocktease, good stretch of games, games missed due to the knee and games in between.
Agreed but to put that in perspective, Walker is coming over to be a major contributor this season instead of being a savior with the burden of carrying the team to success. Given both his and Rose's recent injury history and the need to managed their minute, I bet that Luca Vildoza is given a bigger role in the rotation than most would suspect
They also have IQ. I know some think he can be developed into a PG but I still see him as more of a Lou Williams 2.0.
They also went and beat the top seeded Sixers. They're pretty legit.
Kemba fans, and Kemba himself say he needs time to rest. He did not have an offseason last year between the schedule and playing in the World Cup for team USA.
The only concern I have for kemba is can he give us 55 games. He already showed he can still play.
that Walker's role as the primary playmaker for team will be a major contributor to the team's success but he isn't the only playmaker on the roster (like he would have been if he joined before last year's season opener) and there is now sufficient playmaking ability from others in the starting lineup to make his absence from the lineup more easily manageable for the Knicks.
I'd like to see him shoot less 3's (while keeping it part of his game) and see Thibs and Co. try to adjust what they do a bit when he's in vs. Randle. I think part of Obi's issues stemmed from the lack of adjustment to the offense. He's not randle, different skillsets. Also would make sense to push the pace more when Obi is in there.
Kemba fans, and Kemba himself say he needs time to rest. He did not have an offseason last year between the schedule and playing in the World Cup for team USA.
The only concern I have for kemba is can he give us 55 games. He already showed he can still play.
A big part of the problem for him last year was the rush start to the season and then he rushed back and it just never worked..
Fluke is too strong but I do think they played a bit over their heads. Kevin Huerter generally sucks ass - doubt he plays the way he did in the playoffs for an extended period of time.
I totally agree. And love him or hate him, Trae Young is a star on his way to becoming a superstar.
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Hawks so totally curb-stomped the Knicks (and looked so good in the playoffs in general). I refuse to put the Knicks ahead of them. I do not see them as a fluke at all.
Fluke is too strong but I do think they played a bit over their heads. Kevin Huerter generally sucks ass - doubt he plays the way he did in the playoffs for an extended period of time.
Check their record/numbers once McMillen took over. Assuming Young is healthy they will be very good.
Nets but susceptibility to injury and long term outlook isn't fantastic. Still, its smart gamble to go for it and impressive to execute their roster plan as they have.
Bucks for obvious reasons.
Philly although this is somewhat in flux with Embiid always being an injury risk and also very dependent on the Simmons trade haul.
Atlanta is young, talented and deep. Plus Nate Mac is an outstanding coach. I see no reason to question them being in the top 4.
Miami. Much of this depends on how long Lowry stays in the upper tier, but one would think this is a 50 win team at a minimum.
I would NOT rank Boston, Washington, Indiana or anyone else above NYK.
Is it bad that i was dissapointed he was going to play?
Trae Young is going to get even better
Cam Reddish/D'Andre Hunter are up and coming wing players that did not play that much in the playoffs
The USC center that was a rookie last year is talented
Gallo/Bojan/Huerter can really open up the floor
Cooper/Johnson are steals
The Hawks are a problem for the long term in the East.
I dont know if Huerter is as good as he was in thr Playoffs, he was lights out 3 poiny shooter in the playoffs..
I really like Hunter if he can stay healthy, he gave Barrett fits in that first round series..
I think it's as simple as huge HS prospects are given more leash/interest. Finished the year well (including the playoffs) giving some "hope" to him figuring it out.
Totally agree. Reddish has his moments and totally looks the part but I don't think he has the necessary mindset for sustainable success. He has a little bit of Deangelo Russell in him in that he has talent and wants to be a star, acts like a star...but has very little of the necessary intangibles to actually be a star.
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6'8.5" | 234 | Wingspan: 7’0.5” | Standing Reach: 8’11”
Age on draft night: 22.5
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John Hollinger wrote that Simms “might be the most underrated player in the draft.” He had great numbers at Clemson and has the combination of size and skill that most teams covet in a big man. Alas, he’s not a great athlete and that caused him to slide.
Simms will join the Knicks’ Summer League roster. But with New York having drafted three players — Quentin Grimes, Miles McBride and Jericho Sims — making the team will be an uphill climb for Simms.
I think Simms might be the most underrated player in the draft. He was a four-year starter in the ACC, but managed to stay entirely under the radar; when people talk about Clemson sports they aren’t discussing the basketball team.
Nonetheless, every time I watched ACC tape I kept thinking “this guy is pretty good.“ Simms was quietly solid at the G League elite camp as well, and I was surprised he didn’t get the call to the main combine.
Measuring 6-foot-7 1/2 in socks with a 7-foot ¼ wingspan, Simms has the size and frame to play power forward but offers a surprising amount of skill at that spot. He shot 40.0 percent on 3s as a senior and 82.5 percent from the line, and his development as a passer is worth noting as well (5.7 dimes per 100 in ACC games).
Simms isn’t an amazing freak or anything; he’s a bit thick and slow and often played at 5 for Clemson. It’s possible he’s just not athletic enough for the league. Nonetheless, he likely can fill the forward position with just enough skill, playmaking and size to get you through 15 minutes a night, and there’s a chance he could develop into more.
It's an incredible story. Either his agent is am absolute knucklehead or he himself is.
Still don't have anyone that can guard Trae but Fournier and Kemba could help a lot taking advantage of his defensive weaknesses.
Obi taking a step forward would be big IMO to matchup better against them. It already helps to have way better outside shooters at G but if you can play Obi / Randle 4 and 5 you could maybe make Capela sit...
Still don't have anyone that can guard Trae but Fournier and Kemba could help a lot taking advantage of his defensive weaknesses.
Obi taking a step forward would be big IMO to matchup better against them. It already helps to have way better outside shooters at G but if you can play Obi / Randle 4 and 5 you could maybe make Capela sit...
You have the Hawks ahead of either the defending champs or the Nets? I couldn't go that far. But 3-4 range for sure.
Still don't have anyone that can guard Trae but Fournier and Kemba could help a lot taking advantage of his defensive weaknesses.
Obi taking a step forward would be big IMO to matchup better against them. It already helps to have way better outside shooters at G but if you can play Obi / Randle 4 and 5 you could maybe make Capela sit...
what does Boston have to do with top 2 in the east?
Nets/Bucks tier 1
Sixers/Hawks tier 2
Knicks/Heat/Pacers/Celtics/Bulls tier 3 with Miami ahead of the Knicks but the Knicks potentially as good as the rest.
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The Knicks and Walker are expected to agree on a two-year deal worth roughly $8 million annually, a source confirmed.
This means Walker is expected to take up the rest of the Knicks’ cap space.
They will have to use exceptions to sign the 15th player. The Knicks have the $4.9 million room exception and can use veteran’s minimum exceptions.
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It is happening.
The Knicks will have the luxury of splitting PG time with three talented players:
Kemba, DRose, and IQ. Kemba can play 20, Rose 20 and IQ 8. Quickley is not a pure point but can definitely play the position at the NBA level.
And even if Thibs does not need to keep Drose and Kemba's minutes down that far, he could go 24 and 24 and get IQ his 15-20 at the two.
The depth on this team is very impressive. At the 2/3 we have RJ, IQ, Burks, Fournier -- someone is not going to be happy with minutes at a premium.
Who is this in regards to?
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“Joel Embiid has reached out to him several times since the end of the season,” NBA reporter Jason Dumas said during a recent radio appearance. “He hasn’t returned Joel Embiid’s calls. He hasn’t been in touch with many other of the players, and he’s essentially taken a step back and said, ‘Hey, all my communication is going to be through my agent.”
Who is this in regards to?
Simmons
C - Mitch/Noel/Taj
PF - JR/Obi/Knox
SF - Fournier/Burks/Grimes
SG - RJ/IQ/Vildoza
PG - Kemba/Rose/Deuce
Guessing the two-ways are Pinson and Sims.
C - Mitch/Noel/Taj
PF - JR/Obi/Knox
SF - Fournier/Burks/Grimes
SG - RJ/IQ/Vildoza
PG - Kemba/Rose/Deuce
Guessing the two-ways are Pinson and Sims.
That's the thing. The 2nd round picks can have a 2 way deal and go to the G League. So a decision has to he made if it'll be more productive for them to practice with the team or play in games in the G League.
they have to agree to it
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Yup, good overview of the situation.
Thanks for posting this, Dan.
2. Trade Julius, Quick, Knox, a number 1 and two number 2s for Zion
Starting Lineup
Kemba
Schroeder
RJ
Zion
MItch
Bench: Rose, Fournier, Deuce, Burks, NN.
2. Trade Julius, Quick, Knox, a number 1 and two number 2s for Zion
Starting Lineup
Kemba
Schroeder
RJ
Zion
MItch
Bench: Rose, Fournier, Deuce, Burks, NN.
you are lost, Schroeder is terrible and Knicks have no cap space
Walker-PG
Fournier-SG
Barrett-SF
Randle-PF
Mitch-C
Noel-C
Burks-G
Obi-PF
Grimes-G
Knox-SF
IQ- SG
Rose-PG
Vildoza-PG
Gibson-PF
Sims/McBride we'll see what kind of contracts they get
Good read for sure. The one point I don't really agree with is that the Heat are clearly a tier above the Knicks. They might better than the Knicks next year but last season the two teams were roughly equal. Lowry is 35 years old and for the first time started to decline a bit (albeit not much) last year.
Would anyone really be surprised though if a healthy Kemba is better next year than Lowry? Not to mention the Knicks added Fournier as well and have two rookies who showed promise and should in theory be better in year 2.
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so the 2nd team in the East as far as I'm concerned.
Still don't have anyone that can guard Trae but Fournier and Kemba could help a lot taking advantage of his defensive weaknesses.
Obi taking a step forward would be big IMO to matchup better against them. It already helps to have way better outside shooters at G but if you can play Obi / Randle 4 and 5 you could maybe make Capela sit...
You have the Hawks ahead of either the defending champs or the Nets? I couldn't go that far. But 3-4 range for sure.
Yeah Hawks 3 my bad lol. I was thinking the Bucks, selective memory on the the Nets as it pains me to watch them be as good as they are. But I could easily see the Hawks taking them in the playoffs if their young players all improve and the Nets have any health issues (which I wouldn't call unlikely)
Nets/Bucks
Sixers/Hawks
and then 5 teams that are of roughly similar talent levels. I give the nod to Miami because we've seen that group raise their level of play (and Lowry and Tucker are battle-tested) but I wouldn't bet money they will finish with a record far better than the Knicks. For both teams losing Butler or Randle would be crippling.
I don't personally think it's realistic to believe Walker will suddenly be healthy. 2 teams felt otherwise (and he seemingly does too) so I'd say the best players to switch teams are an uninspiring group of Lowry (who yes, I'd take over Walker), Lonzo, Graham and DeRozan.
I think the Sixers are in bad shape unless Simmons gets his shit sorted out. Which has to be at best a toss up as I see it. But if he does, they are as good as anyone
I think he could really shine in Chicago (or could have in NY) but is honestly a better fit in Chicago.
But yeah I think it's Lowry for me as the biggest impact. If he gels well with that team I could see them winning the East (although i'd put them 4 or 5 in ranking) but yeah if they do compete it will because he had a major impact. You can never rule out the Heat, Riley is a real wizard. I can't believe we ever let him out of NY
I think that's a pretty grounded take. If we didn't have Rose in the fold I'd be nervous about relying on Kemba to take us to another level. Having both of them is a nice situation.
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yes it is a big if, but if Kemba is healthy is hr the best player to change teams this free agency?
I don't personally think it's realistic to believe Walker will suddenly be healthy. 2 teams felt otherwise (and he seemingly does too) so I'd say the best players to switch teams are an uninspiring group of Lowry (who yes, I'd take over Walker), Lonzo, Graham and DeRozan.
Thats completely fair and i agree i dont think we get a completely healthy walker but i think 85 to 90 percent is realistic
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I don't personally think it's realistic to believe Walker will suddenly be healthy. 2 teams felt otherwise (and he seemingly does too) so I'd say the best players to switch teams are an uninspiring group of Lowry (who yes, I'd take over Walker), Lonzo, Graham and DeRozan.
I think that's a pretty grounded take. If we didn't have Rose in the fold I'd be nervous about relying on Kemba to take us to another level. Having both of them is a nice situation.
Yep Charlotte and Boston were counting on him to play 30+ minutes we won't be. We are probably looking for more in the 20-25 range. So while his knees are a huge question mark and can be a ticking time bomb, the time management should help. Also this off season will be the most rest he's had in 3 years.
Agree with this, I think hawks are now being overrated based on a nice postseason run. The Hawks were awesome the second half of the season but it’s not like they were significantly better record wise than the Heat and Knicks, it was a dead heat for the last 20 games or so. The Hawks are running it back with the same team while basically everyone else in the East playoff race improved their teams.
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IMO, it's Nets & Bucks at the top...then Heat, Sixers, Knicks, Hawks in some order...then Celts Bulls Raptors Pacers. I think Detroit might surprise this season.
Agree with this, I think hawks are now being overrated based on a nice postseason run. The Hawks were awesome the second half of the season but it’s not like they were significantly better record wise than the Heat and Knicks, it was a dead heat for the last 20 games or so. The Hawks are running it back with the same team while basically everyone else in the East playoff race improved their teams.
Check out the Hawks record under McMillan. Their playoff run was no fluke. They played like that for months. When healthy they didn't need to add anything. Keeping Collins was huge. They are a deep tough team. However they play the games for a reason. Anything can happen. The East will be a dog fight. I think Dame asking out can change everything as I think it will ignite a Knicks-Sixers bidding war.
Hawks were also missing Hunter and Reddish and Bog were really injured. I see the Hawks as legit and will be better. Really good team.
I mean...holy shit.
Is it weird that I almost feel bad for someone who just secured 106 million dollars?
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yes it is a big if, but if Kemba is healthy is hr the best player to change teams this free agency?
I don't personally think it's realistic to believe Walker will suddenly be healthy. 2 teams felt otherwise (and he seemingly does too) so I'd say the best players to switch teams are an uninspiring group of Lowry (who yes, I'd take over Walker), Lonzo, Graham and DeRozan.
Thats completely fair and i agree i dont think we get a completely healthy walker but i think 85 to 90 percent is realistic
He cannot play any of the back-to-back games (10-7 per season) as well as an above normal scheduled time off (5-7 games). Not too bad if no additional injuries. Just gotta be healthy playoff time.
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yes it is a big if, but if Kemba is healthy is hr the best player to change teams this free agency?
I don't personally think it's realistic to believe Walker will suddenly be healthy. 2 teams felt otherwise (and he seemingly does too) so I'd say the best players to switch teams are an uninspiring group of Lowry (who yes, I'd take over Walker), Lonzo, Graham and DeRozan.
Thats completely fair and i agree i dont think we get a completely healthy walker but i think 85 to 90 percent is realistic
He cannot play any of the back-to-back games (10-7 per season) as well as an above normal scheduled time off (5-7 games). Not too bad if no additional injuries. Just gotta be healthy playoff time.
that was last year, we dont knkw that to be the case this year, not saying it wont but we dont know he wont be able to play back to backs
I just don't know how this is going to happen. Morey is asking for the moon.
“He doesn’t want to go to a bad situation. He’s reading the tea leaves. He sees Toronto, he sees Portland and then, being frank being the young socialite that he is, he’s not looking to go to any of those situations. He’s looking to go to the California teams.”
This guy has such a losers mentality its remarkable.
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doesnt want to go to Toronto or Porland because they are bad situations...wants to go to a california team
I just don't know how this is going to happen. Morey is asking for the moon.
I think the Kings eventually pony up the picks
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IMO, it's Nets & Bucks at the top...then Heat, Sixers, Knicks, Hawks in some order...then Celts Bulls Raptors Pacers. I think Detroit might surprise this season.
Agree with this, I think hawks are now being overrated based on a nice postseason run. The Hawks were awesome the second half of the season but it’s not like they were significantly better record wise than the Heat and Knicks, it was a dead heat for the last 20 games or so. The Hawks are running it back with the same team while basically everyone else in the East playoff race improved their teams.
Check out the Hawks record under McMillan. Their playoff run was no fluke. They played like that for months. When healthy they didn't need to add anything. Keeping Collins was huge. They are a deep tough team. However they play the games for a reason. Anything can happen. The East will be a dog fight. I think Dame asking out can change everything as I think it will ignite a Knicks-Sixers bidding war.
Yeah, the Hawks were great under McMillan, but it's not like they were far and away better than the Knicks or the Heat. Seems like because of their postseason run people are just assuming they are a lock for a top 4 seed, when I don't think that is the case at all.
The Hawks were 14-6 over the last 20 games, Miami was 13-7, the Knicks were 16-4. Miami and New York made pretty significant improvements during the offseason, Atlanta is running it back.
That has been a weird situation. Every Bulls sign and trade he's always rumored to be part of it but never is. You'd think a team would be interested but none have been. I have a feeling he signs his quali offer. If he does is he a UFA next year?
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That has been a weird situation. Every Bulls sign and trade he's always rumored to be part of it but never is. You'd think a team would be interested but none have been. I have a feeling he signs his quali offer. If he does is he a UFA next year?
I wonder if there's an opportunity to sign and trade Markannen for some back of the roster guys (including Knox, Sims, Vildoza, a future 2nd rounder).
Knicks have a logjam roster right now and maybe it could clear up a couple of spots to let some of the 2nd round guys sign.
Have to walk before you can run.
Now is the long march. Wait and see how RJ and IQ develop. That will be the biggest change of direction for the team.
Now it is wait and see who the next star is to ask out and keep developing the team
That was great thanks Dan
Deuce also signed
you are not alone lol
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doesnt want to go to Toronto or Porland because they are bad situations...wants to go to a california team
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“He doesn’t want to go to a bad situation. He’s reading the tea leaves. He sees Toronto, he sees Portland and then, being frank being the young socialite that he is, he’s not looking to go to any of those situations. He’s looking to go to the California teams.”
This guy has such a losers mentality its remarkable.
That quote is damming, esp. about him wanting to go to CA-and I'm assuming he's excluding the Kings in that too-for the off the court stuff.
I've been a Simmons defender, but his performance in the postseason/the dripping of a lot of 'Does this dude even care?' rumblings are hard to ignore. Embiid has reached out to him &...radio silence. I don't see how he's a 76er come opening night. Too much water under that bridge; first time he misses a FT, the boo birds are coming out in force.
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Uh, who here are 'bandwagon Bucks fans'? Did I miss something?