reporting what they see. It’d be one thing if someone was watching practice and had an alternative view.
If the team looks bad and outmatched in joint practices, I want the reporters to tell me that. Further, I’m not so sure why this is hard to believe given how the giants have been routinely outmatched during Gettleman’s tenure.
Hopefully they show improvement tomorrow and on Sunday and can get ready to start the season off in a big way with 3 games vs teams with losing records last year before the schedule gets hard.
Is a walking injury report on his own. Bad move signing so many questionable injury types. He had two foot injuries in 2019 and a knee in 2020. Now he's limping off again and people are surprised? Lower body injuries lead to more lower body injuries, guys don't magically get better and stop being constantly hurt. An ACL tear is one thing, but multiple leg injuries never spell good news.
for out smarting the league hiding starters from preseason.
You do realize that the physicality of these joint sessions is exactly why Judge decided to rest the starters this past week, right? I’m guessing based on your stupid ass post that you hadn’t even given that a much thought…
Is a walking injury report on his own. Bad move signing so many questionable injury types. He had two foot injuries in 2019 and a knee in 2020. Now he's limping off again and people are surprised? Lower body injuries lead to more lower body injuries, guys don't magically get better and stop being constantly hurt. An ACL tear is one thing, but multiple leg injuries never spell good news.
Agreed. If Vrabel was no longer interested in AJ, it should have been a reddish flag. Apparently they feel good with Fulton and Jackrabbit at corner with Farley coming back after opting out in '20. Farley was their first round pick in '20. So they have pieces there to very likely replace AJ without missing a beat.
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Practice completed.
Joe Judge take his team to the far field to “run the hill.”
A New England tradition.
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Judge putting players through sprints on Belichick’s infamous hill. Expect to see a similar hill in East Rutherford in the future.
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CB Adoree Jackson appeared to grab at his ankle after a play in live drills. Now with practice over he hobbled onto a cart and takes the ride inside. #Giants
We had a hill in HS and getting told to "run hills" was the height of punishment for the football and lax teams I was on. Funny enough, the track guys, who weren't considered the highest on our school's contrived athlete totem pole, did them as a regular part of their conditioning.
Doesn't sound, but the injuries are more important
than how the offense performs in a practice session without Barkley and Golladay.
I don't want to be one of those guys, but it really does seem like today's players get injured awhole lot more than even when I was a kid in the 90's. Just incredible.
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Daniel Jones: Offense was up and down at practice, we had to fight through it. There were some things we did well and others we need to clean up.
Anyone intimating that Mac Jones is better than Daniel Jones, minus just about every weapon he has, is just an idiot. You can't possibly know this. Did he have a better day? Yeah and it means nothing...
Is a walking injury report on his own. Bad move signing so many questionable injury types. He had two foot injuries in 2019 and a knee in 2020. Now he's limping off again and people are surprised? Lower body injuries lead to more lower body injuries, guys don't magically get better and stop being constantly hurt. An ACL tear is one thing, but multiple leg injuries never spell good news.
Agreed. If Vrabel was no longer interested in AJ, it should have been a reddish flag. Apparently they feel good with Fulton and Jackrabbit at corner with Farley coming back after opting out in '20. Farley was their first round pick in '20. So they have pieces there to very likely replace AJ without missing a beat.
Who says he didn't? They had serious salary-cap concerns.
Well, if reports are accurate, Mac Jones would have looked better
And who the fucj is he even really throwing to? Patriots don't have any stud receivers... imagine if they get a true WR1 for him. I think they should start him over Cam week 1.
Titans pass defense without Jackson was disgusting bad. But drafting an injured kid and signing Jackrabbbit in 2021 is the solution to some poster here. Genius.
Also, kind of funny how everybody was ripping the 49ers for potentially picking Mac Jones. He's always had the tools. But everyone is in love with the mobile QB, you're stuck in 1997 if you don't have one!
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I'm told Giants CB Adoree Jackson did suffer a sprained ankle in coverage late in today's practice when he went up and landed awkwardly.
The Giants are cautiously optimistic that Jackson's injury will not cost him significant time, per source. He'll undergo further testing.
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Obviously, there's no way of knowing how the ankle injury for Adoree Jackson will affect his status for Week 1. They'll get him further tested when the swelling subsides, and reassess after that.
Would expect Rodarius Williams to play out there with Julian Love mixed in Sunday.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Pats Wed practice - spirited scrum with NYG def vs NE off in line drills, quickly broke up..NYG unit did a lap and NE unit did sprints as a penalty
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Sills nice contested catch and an great double move to create 5 yds of space in 1 on 1s
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Rudolph fared well in limited reps
..Slayton star of the day, made plays im each session despite having to take a short break
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Griffin-Stewart lunging double-tip to himself as the catch of the day
I wasn't too high on Mac Jones coming into the draft - as immobile as he is he is going to have to be really smart and accurate to succeed. It's obviously very early but he looks the part.
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Update on #Giants CB Adoree Jackson: I'm told his ankle injury doesn't look bad. He hasn't even been ruled out of tomorrow's practice vs. #Patriots. That would be a relief.
And who the fucj is he even really throwing to? Patriots don't have any stud receivers... imagine if they get a true WR1 for him. I think they should start him over Cam week 1.
BB did invest in some very good second tier receivers in the free agent pool this offseason - Bourne, Agholor, Henry and Smith. I think perhaps he over paid a bit, but that's a lot of new faces who can make plays.
New England's OL is going to be great if they stay healthy. That is going to be huge. And they have a deep stable of versatile RBs.
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants offense was sporadic, but had a td and fg on two 2 min drives
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Cole made a contested grab and emticed the CB into a pass inter flag in 1 on 1s
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Giants offense was "sporadic", that would be normal for them. It doesn't mean that much, so I am kinda joking...
I am more curious how much starters play in final
preseason tilt.
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Update on #Giants CB Adoree Jackson: I'm told his ankle injury doesn't look bad. He hasn't even been ruled out of tomorrow's practice vs. #Patriots. That would be a relief.
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I would save him for Week 1 at this point.
No reason to rush him back now.
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@lt4kicks
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According to sources: The Giants beat reporters have also looked outmatched early on in these joint sessions vs the Patriots.
with Lemieux (asshat report not withstanding) would like some info, but Judge doesn’t talk about injuries and the beats are too incompetent to ask.
I was wondering if it's the same knee he had been resting before. Maybe he had a partial tear that didn't show up on imaging, that has now gotten worse. For the moment, tho, we don't have confirmation of an injury.
I wasn't too high on Mac Jones coming into the draft - as immobile as he is he is going to have to be really smart and accurate to succeed. It's obviously very early but he looks the part.
Same here. But with the quality of that OL - and I think it's going to be a top fiver - MJ is in the best environment to succeed.
You know, if Cam is healthy, BB is just the type of madman genius who could set the entire year up going Quarterback by Committee.
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@lt4kicks
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According to sources: The Giants beat reporters have also looked outmatched early on in these joint sessions vs the Patriots.
That's awesome. I was just recently thinking that someone should put together an NFL beat reporter ranking.
quality of the OL can significantly affect QB effectiveness?
And vice versa.
The quality of the QB effects the OL significantly?? You sure about that? I doubt there are very good OL's made to look bad because of the QB - but then again - you have to say that to continue the narrative, no?
I'm learning that the posters accusing others of continuing a narrative are usually just pushing one of their own.
If you don't think a quarterback with poor pocket awareness doesn't make an offensive lineman's life more difficult I don't know what to tell you. You should probably stop complaining about narratives and just watch more football and try to get smarter. Or just drop your narrative that the Giants aren't as bad as they've been showing us these past few years.
poor pocket awareness doesn't make things harder. I'm struggling to find many times when a good OL is hampered by a bad QB, to the point where they play poorly.
It is usually recognized as poor play by the QB.
I'd suggest you stop making all sins of the past the sins of the future and watch football and get smarter.
Instead of pigeon-holing every situation into being a criticism of the QB.
The OL didn't do that great opening up holes for RB's either, but in your world, the narrative is that Jones caused that, along with causing WR's to not get separation and dropping passes too. Narratives, they are.
The OL didn't do that great opening up holes for RB's either, but in your world, the narrative is that Jones caused that, along with causing WR's to not get separation and dropping passes too. Narratives, they are.
That's false and you know it. The "narrative" has been that Jones, despite deficiencies around him, should have been able to do better with better decision making, ball protection, and pocket awareness.
For some inexplicable reason you don't think the 6th pick in any different in expectations than the 66th pick or the even 166th pick. Which I have always found very strange for someone has smart as you...
Well at least I hope...
If the team looks bad and outmatched in joint practices, I want the reporters to tell me that. Further, I’m not so sure why this is hard to believe given how the giants have been routinely outmatched during Gettleman’s tenure.
Hopefully they show improvement tomorrow and on Sunday and can get ready to start the season off in a big way with 3 games vs teams with losing records last year before the schedule gets hard.
I heard he completed 15 in a row at one point.
You do realize that the physicality of these joint sessions is exactly why Judge decided to rest the starters this past week, right? I’m guessing based on your stupid ass post that you hadn’t even given that a much thought…
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Patriots definitely won today’s practice. Mac Jones roasted and toasted the #Giants secondary.
What a dumb post.
Agreed. If Vrabel was no longer interested in AJ, it should have been a reddish flag. Apparently they feel good with Fulton and Jackrabbit at corner with Farley coming back after opting out in '20. Farley was their first round pick in '20. So they have pieces there to very likely replace AJ without missing a beat.
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Practice completed.
Joe Judge take his team to the far field to “run the hill.”
A New England tradition.
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Judge putting players through sprints on Belichick’s infamous hill. Expect to see a similar hill in East Rutherford in the future.
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CB Adoree Jackson appeared to grab at his ankle after a play in live drills. Now with practice over he hobbled onto a cart and takes the ride inside. #Giants
We had a hill in HS and getting told to "run hills" was the height of punishment for the football and lax teams I was on. Funny enough, the track guys, who weren't considered the highest on our school's contrived athlete totem pole, did them as a regular part of their conditioning.
I don't want to be one of those guys, but it really does seem like today's players get injured awhole lot more than even when I was a kid in the 90's. Just incredible.
Yup.
@giantswfan
#Giants #Jones - up and down day for offense...got to clen stuff up...that is the way practice is
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants #Jones - made some plays im red zone moved the ball some
@giantswfan
#Giants #Jones - read option was part of what they wanted to work on today
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Daniel Jones: Offense was up and down at practice, we had to fight through it. There were some things we did well and others we need to clean up.
Except our #1s dominated Cleveland's #1s just a week ago. So there's that...
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Is a walking injury report on his own. Bad move signing so many questionable injury types. He had two foot injuries in 2019 and a knee in 2020. Now he's limping off again and people are surprised? Lower body injuries lead to more lower body injuries, guys don't magically get better and stop being constantly hurt. An ACL tear is one thing, but multiple leg injuries never spell good news.
Agreed. If Vrabel was no longer interested in AJ, it should have been a reddish flag. Apparently they feel good with Fulton and Jackrabbit at corner with Farley coming back after opting out in '20. Farley was their first round pick in '20. So they have pieces there to very likely replace AJ without missing a beat.
Who says he didn't? They had serious salary-cap concerns.
Going 28 of 30.....seems like a bad day for secondary. Not exactly sure how that relates to D.Jones....who finished strong.
More concerned about injury
Titans pass defense without Jackson was disgusting bad. But drafting an injured kid and signing Jackrabbbit in 2021 is the solution to some poster here. Genius.
Also, kind of funny how everybody was ripping the 49ers for potentially picking Mac Jones. He's always had the tools. But everyone is in love with the mobile QB, you're stuck in 1997 if you don't have one!
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I'm told Giants CB Adoree Jackson did suffer a sprained ankle in coverage late in today's practice when he went up and landed awkwardly.
The Giants are cautiously optimistic that Jackson's injury will not cost him significant time, per source. He'll undergo further testing.
@art_stapleton
Obviously, there's no way of knowing how the ankle injury for Adoree Jackson will affect his status for Week 1. They'll get him further tested when the swelling subsides, and reassess after that.
Would expect Rodarius Williams to play out there with Julian Love mixed in Sunday.
@giantswfan
#Giants #Pats Wed practice - spirited scrum with NYG def vs NE off in line drills, quickly broke up..NYG unit did a lap and NE unit did sprints as a penalty
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Sills nice contested catch and an great double move to create 5 yds of space in 1 on 1s
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Rudolph fared well in limited reps
..Slayton star of the day, made plays im each session despite having to take a short break
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Griffin-Stewart lunging double-tip to himself as the catch of the day
@giantswfan
#Giants offense was sporadic, but had a td and fg on two 2 min drives
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Cole made a contested grab and emticed the CB into a pass inter flag in 1 on 1s
@giantswfan
#Giants defense - did best work on run fitsn but Odenigbo (tipped) and Hill (sack) had consecutive pass rushes in 11 on 11s
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Update on #Giants CB Adoree Jackson: I'm told his ankle injury doesn't look bad. He hasn't even been ruled out of tomorrow's practice vs. #Patriots. That would be a relief.
BB did invest in some very good second tier receivers in the free agent pool this offseason - Bourne, Agholor, Henry and Smith. I think perhaps he over paid a bit, but that's a lot of new faces who can make plays.
New England's OL is going to be great if they stay healthy. That is going to be huge. And they have a deep stable of versatile RBs.
@giantswfan
#Giants offense was sporadic, but had a td and fg on two 2 min drives
GiantsWFAN
@giantswfan
#Giants Cole made a contested grab and emticed the CB into a pass inter flag in 1 on 1s
Giants offense was "sporadic", that would be normal for them. It doesn't mean that much, so I am kinda joking...
I am more curious how much starters play in final
preseason tilt.
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Update on #Giants CB Adoree Jackson: I'm told his ankle injury doesn't look bad. He hasn't even been ruled out of tomorrow's practice vs. #Patriots. That would be a relief.
I would save him for Week 1 at this point.
No reason to rush him back now.
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@lt4kicks
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According to sources: The Giants beat reporters have also looked outmatched early on in these joint sessions vs the Patriots.
FWIW ... Ed Valentine on BBV said ‘today may have just been a maintenance day for Lemieux’ ... hopefully our stellar beats can find out the facts.
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with Lemieux (asshat report not withstanding) would like some info, but Judge doesn’t talk about injuries and the beats are too incompetent to ask.
FWIW ... Ed Valentine on BBV said ‘today may have just been a maintenance day for Lemieux’ ... hopefully our stellar beats can find out the facts.
If it was just a maintenance day, wouldn’t he have at least been spotted hanging out on the side somewhere?
I was wondering if it's the same knee he had been resting before. Maybe he had a partial tear that didn't show up on imaging, that has now gotten worse. For the moment, tho, we don't have confirmation of an injury.
Same here. But with the quality of that OL - and I think it's going to be a top fiver - MJ is in the best environment to succeed.
You know, if Cam is healthy, BB is just the type of madman genius who could set the entire year up going Quarterback by Committee.
And vice versa.
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@lt4kicks
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4h
According to sources: The Giants beat reporters have also looked outmatched early on in these joint sessions vs the Patriots.
That's awesome. I was just recently thinking that someone should put together an NFL beat reporter ranking.
Yes, but especially for a QB with limited movement; and who needs a clean pocket to optimize success.
I wish more starters were available but also worry about new injuries to other starters. Lemiueux’s status is concerning.
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quality of the OL can significantly affect QB effectiveness?
And vice versa.
The quality of the QB effects the OL significantly?? You sure about that? I doubt there are very good OL's made to look bad because of the QB - but then again - you have to say that to continue the narrative, no?
I wish more starters were available but also worry about new injuries to other starters. Lemiueux’s status is concerning.
If you don't think a quarterback with poor pocket awareness doesn't make an offensive lineman's life more difficult I don't know what to tell you. You should probably stop complaining about narratives and just watch more football and try to get smarter. Or just drop your narrative that the Giants aren't as bad as they've been showing us these past few years.
It is usually recognized as poor play by the QB.
I'd suggest you stop making all sins of the past the sins of the future and watch football and get smarter.
Instead of pigeon-holing every situation into being a criticism of the QB.
The OL didn't do that great opening up holes for RB's either, but in your world, the narrative is that Jones caused that, along with causing WR's to not get separation and dropping passes too. Narratives, they are.
The OL didn't do that great opening up holes for RB's either, but in your world, the narrative is that Jones caused that, along with causing WR's to not get separation and dropping passes too. Narratives, they are.
That's false and you know it. The "narrative" has been that Jones, despite deficiencies around him, should have been able to do better with better decision making, ball protection, and pocket awareness.
For some inexplicable reason you don't think the 6th pick in any different in expectations than the 66th pick or the even 166th pick. Which I have always found very strange for someone has smart as you...