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Cam Newton Released

armstead98 : 8/31/2021 10:09 am
Felt this one was worthy of its own thread.

Mac Jones era officially begins.
He'll be moping under a towel on somebody else's sideline  
FranknWeezer : 8/31/2021 10:11 am : link
in no time.
I was wondering if that was coming  
jvm52106 : 8/31/2021 10:11 am : link
damn...

Cam to Baltimore as backup for Jackson? Cam to GB to back up Rodgers as Love isn't ready.
Kick the tires  
Mike in NY : 8/31/2021 10:11 am : link
He can't be worse than Jones and Glennon? :)
BB does not  
section125 : 8/31/2021 10:12 am : link
eff around.
I'd take him over Glennon all day  
90.Cal : 8/31/2021 10:12 am : link
Don't know if it can make sense financially.
RE: Kick the tires  
section125 : 8/31/2021 10:12 am : link
In comment 15347871 Mike in NY said:
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He can't be worse than Jones and Glennon? :)


Guess you didn't watch the game Sunday night? Cripes...
Hope he goes in division  
UConn4523 : 8/31/2021 10:12 am : link
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So  
AcidTest : 8/31/2021 10:13 am : link
who is the backup in NE? I agree that Newton will find a home, albeit as a backup.
Mac Jones looks the part..  
Sean : 8/31/2021 10:13 am : link
Smart, command of the offense, goes through all progressions.
Wow - just shows how little "coach speak" means  
PatersonPlank : 8/31/2021 10:13 am : link
Little Bill was talking him up. This is why you shouldn't read anything in to Judge's comments
While this may be news because of the name...  
Jimmy Googs : 8/31/2021 10:13 am : link
it certainly shouldn't be a surprise.
kind of shocking as he was treated as the starter for the ENTIRETY  
Aaroninma : 8/31/2021 10:14 am : link
of camp. But he does stink. And if BB wanted to start the kid, he knows Cam cannot be around.
If Newton isn't starting, he's not worth the hassle of keeping  
bigbluescot : 8/31/2021 10:14 am : link
because of how different the offense is when he's in.

Far easier to have Hoyer as the backup.
RE: So  
jvm52106 : 8/31/2021 10:15 am : link
In comment 15347878 AcidTest said:
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who is the backup in NE? I agree that Newton will find a home, albeit as a backup.


Brian Hoyer
No trade  
armstead98 : 8/31/2021 10:15 am : link
Shows that you can't always get a return on an asset.
BB doesn't like QB controversies either...  
giants#1 : 8/31/2021 10:17 am : link
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RE: RE: So  
AcidTest : 8/31/2021 10:17 am : link
In comment 15347886 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 15347878 AcidTest said:


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who is the backup in NE? I agree that Newton will find a home, albeit as a backup.



Brian Hoyer


Thanks.
RE: If Newton isn't starting, he's not worth the hassle of keeping  
AcidTest : 8/31/2021 10:17 am : link
In comment 15347885 bigbluescot said:
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because of how different the offense is when he's in.

Far easier to have Hoyer as the backup.


Agreed.
I’m not at all surprised that they decided  
Section331 : 8/31/2021 10:18 am : link
to go with Mac Jones, Cam looks pretty cooked, but definitely surprised at the cut. I guess I shouldn’t be, why pay him starter money to sit? I’m not sold on Mac Jones, but it will be interesting to see how he does.
RE: I’m not at all surprised that they decided  
giants#1 : 8/31/2021 10:19 am : link
In comment 15347896 Section331 said:
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to go with Mac Jones, Cam looks pretty cooked, but definitely surprised at the cut. I guess I shouldn’t be, why pay him starter money to sit? I’m not sold on Mac Jones, but it will be interesting to see how he does.


Cam wasn't getting anything close to 'starter money'. Even if he hit every incentive, he was only getting ~$10M.
RE: I'd take him over Glennon all day  
Section331 : 8/31/2021 10:20 am : link
In comment 15347873 90.Cal said:
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Don't know if it can make sense financially.


I’m not the biggest Glennon fan, but Cam looks completely cooked. His arm is shot. I suspect he’ll try to land somewhere, but in the end will retire.
This guy can still play  
mittenedman : 8/31/2021 10:20 am : link
I thought he looked pretty good in the joint practices, and again in the game. For instance he is leagues better than Mike Glennon.
RE: RE: I’m not at all surprised that they decided  
Section331 : 8/31/2021 10:21 am : link
In comment 15347898 giants#1 said:
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In comment 15347896 Section331 said:


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to go with Mac Jones, Cam looks pretty cooked, but definitely surprised at the cut. I guess I shouldn’t be, why pay him starter money to sit? I’m not sold on Mac Jones, but it will be interesting to see how he does.



Cam wasn't getting anything close to 'starter money'. Even if he hit every incentive, he was only getting ~$10M.


Very true, but still a lot to pay a backup.
Not vaxxed  
The Dude : 8/31/2021 10:32 am : link
Wouldn't be surprised if BB doesn't want any risk in the QB room.
RE: If Newton isn't starting, he's not worth the hassle of keeping  
mfsd : 8/31/2021 10:33 am : link
In comment 15347885 bigbluescot said:
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because of how different the offense is when he's in.

Far easier to have Hoyer as the backup.


Bingo
Makes sense...  
bw in dc : 8/31/2021 10:36 am : link
Cam can't throw anymore to compete in this league.

Jones, if given enough protection, can.
RE: This guy can still play  
section125 : 8/31/2021 10:38 am : link
In comment 15347900 mittenedman said:
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I thought he looked pretty good in the joint practices, and again in the game. For instance he is leagues better than Mike Glennon.


I think he looked like crap in the game. He is cooked.
Stock up  
allstarjim : 8/31/2021 10:40 am : link
on all Patriots skill players, particularly Damien Harris.
Nice  
AcesUp : 8/31/2021 10:42 am : link
Got Mac Jones OROY at 10-1 after he torched us in practice and things were looking weird with Cam. That'll move now.
This could have been Newton not wanting  
larryflower37 : 8/31/2021 10:44 am : link
To be a backup and asking out if he wasn't the starter.
I am sure Cam still thinks he can start somewhere.
WTFs cut Peyton Barber  
KDavies : 8/31/2021 10:50 am : link
Jaret Patterson to make the 53, with Gibson and McKissic
Could Newton end up  
jvm52106 : 8/31/2021 10:52 am : link
in Dallas?
Surprised  
The Jake : 8/31/2021 11:00 am : link
more people aren't talking the vaccine and the role it played in this decision.

Personally, I can't help but think of Colin Kaepernick. He undoubtedly had enough talent to be in the league when he made his political stance, but the distraction/disruption was perceived to outweigh the talent.

I would imagine BB is making a similar calculation here. If Cam is unvaccinated and likely to be the backup, the potential disruption to the team outweighs whatever benefit he would bring to it. See ya.
RE: Nice  
BigBlue89 : 8/31/2021 11:01 am : link
In comment 15347929 AcesUp said:
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Got Mac Jones OROY at 10-1 after he torched us in practice and things were looking weird with Cam. That'll move now.


Now 5-1, so good job.
Ha ha  
Chocco : 8/31/2021 11:02 am : link
New there was more to this story. Lol
Jones Newton controversy origins - ( New Window )
RE: Ha ha  
Chocco : 8/31/2021 11:03 am : link
In comment 15347963 Chocco said:
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New there was more to this story. Lol Jones Newton controversy origins - ( New Window )

*Knew
RE: Surprised  
KDavies : 8/31/2021 11:09 am : link
In comment 15347958 The Jake said:
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more people aren't talking the vaccine and the role it played in this decision.

Personally, I can't help but think of Colin Kaepernick. He undoubtedly had enough talent to be in the league when he made his political stance, but the distraction/disruption was perceived to outweigh the talent.

I would imagine BB is making a similar calculation here. If Cam is unvaccinated and likely to be the backup, the potential disruption to the team outweighs whatever benefit he would bring to it. See ya.


They are a number of larger factors behind not wanting Newton as a backup QB:

1. He is accomplished. You don't want the calls for Newton should Jones struggle
2. He's getting paid $5 million. Not sure how much of the other $3.5 million they save, but $1.5 million was per game roster bonuses.
3. His arm is toast and he is just not good anymore.
No surprise  
ZogZerg : 8/31/2021 11:09 am : link
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Wow ...  
Beer Man : 8/31/2021 11:14 am : link
How the bottom has dropped-out for this once promising / rising star
RE: RE: If Newton isn't starting, he's not worth the hassle of keeping  
PatersonPlank : 8/31/2021 11:27 am : link
In comment 15347921 mfsd said:
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In comment 15347885 bigbluescot said:


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because of how different the offense is when he's in.

Far easier to have Hoyer as the backup.



Bingo


Plus I can't help but wonder if Cam asked for this rather than being a backup
RE: Surprised  
upnyg : 8/31/2021 1:13 pm : link
In comment 15347958 The Jake said:
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more people aren't talking the vaccine and the role it played in this decision.

Personally, I can't help but think of Colin Kaepernick. He undoubtedly had enough talent to be in the league when he made his political stance, but the distraction/disruption was perceived to outweigh the talent.

I would imagine BB is making a similar calculation here. If Cam is unvaccinated and likely to be the backup, the potential disruption to the team outweighs whatever benefit he would bring to it. See ya.


Cam had the virus already. would have less chance to spread than even vaccinated. The NFL/Patriots may have their reasons to discriminate here, but I doubt it. Cam is not good anymore. I think that's all it is.
RE: This guy can still play  
FStubbs : 8/31/2021 1:21 pm : link
In comment 15347900 mittenedman said:
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I thought he looked pretty good in the joint practices, and again in the game. For instance he is leagues better than Mike Glennon.


I don't know if that's true anymore. His body has fallen apart since he went vegan.

Baltimore would be the only team that I think would look at him as a veteran backup, but I'm not sure where the value would be.
DG  
Les in TO : 8/31/2021 2:24 pm : link
Has shown a bias for his former Panthers players and Mara/Judge have a relationship with BB. I don’t think they will sign him but I can see them kicking the tires if he’s willing to be the backup/mentor. I could see Cam wanting to play/live in NY
The fact they couldn't even get a 7th rounder in future years  
sharp315 : 8/31/2021 5:40 pm : link
definitely shows the League knows this guy is toast. We just picked up a 7th in 2022 for a punter....

While he may be able to perform as a serviceable backup, his personality is going to make it difficult to find any sort of landing spot.
Out of respect for Cam  
eclipz928 : 8/31/2021 7:40 pm : link
the Patriots didn't attempt to try and trade him. They did him a courtesy by releasing him and letting him select his own next potential destination.

I actually think Cam may still be able to produce in the right situation, maybe even as a backup here, but I don't fault the Patriots for cutting bait. Mac Jones looked pretty good in the preseason, and that team isn't likely going to be competing for much this year. Makes sense to go ahead with Mac, rather than drag this out.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/31/2021 7:41 pm : link
I think he's cooked.
Can was cooked  
GNewGiants : 8/31/2021 7:53 pm : link
After his SB performance and trying to get that fumble.
RE: Can was cooked  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/31/2021 7:54 pm : link
In comment 15349298 GNewGiants said:
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After his SB performance and trying to get that fumble.


Remember watching that live & friend going, 'He didn't even go for it!' I was like, 'Relax. He tried.' Then I saw the replay...buddy was 100% right.
RE: Out of respect for Cam  
bw in dc : 8/31/2021 7:59 pm : link
In comment 15349283 eclipz928 said:
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the Patriots didn't attempt to try and trade him. They did him a courtesy by releasing him and letting him select his own next potential destination.

I actually think Cam may still be able to produce in the right situation, maybe even as a backup here, but I don't fault the Patriots for cutting bait. Mac Jones looked pretty good in the preseason, and that team isn't likely going to be competing for much this year. Makes sense to go ahead with Mac, rather than drag this out.


I don't know about that at all. They have a terrific OL, a very good stable of RBs, a good overall defense (Hightower returning is huge), a great secondary, and the GOAT HC.

I think they are right in the mix for a playoff spot...
I'd take a chance on him..  
prdave73 : 8/31/2021 11:11 pm : link
Better option then Glennon that's for sure..
Looks like Cam is a bit upset  
montanagiant : 9/9/2021 1:53 am : link
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"On this week's 'Funky Friday,' I have a lot of things that I need to get off my chest," Newton said. "This is not a retirement speech, and I have a lot of football still in me."

The Patriots cut Newton last week while handing the starting quarterback job to rookie Mac Jones.

Newton missed time during training camp after a miscommunication regarding COVID-19 protocols forced him to isolate for five days due to being unvaccinated. In the aftermath of Newton's release, Coach Bill Belichick said that the QB's vaccination status did not play a role in the decision.

Obvious potential landing spots for Newton in 2021 aren't clear at this point. Since his release, both Washington and Dallas have said that they didn't plan to consider adding the veteran. If the 2015 NFL MVP is to play this year, he might have to wait for an injury to strike down a QB to open an opportunity.

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I'm a bit flummoxed by the quarterback situation in New England;  
Angel Eyes : 9/9/2021 1:52 pm : link
as of right now, there's only one active quarterback on the roster: Mac Jones since they released Newton and Hoyer, while Stidham is currently on the PUP list. If he goes down, the Patriots are in trouble unless they can call up a quarterback like Dorothy and her ruby slippers.

The Patriots must have a lot of faith that (Mac) Jones can stay healthy, or in their offensive line that they'll be able to keep Jones upright.
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