Predict the Giants record

I'm no expert, that's for sure.
6-11 or 7-10.
Defense ranks around 8th in league.
Offense ranks around 25th in league.
If the over all record is worse, and maybe even if it is as above, then Gettleman (hopefully) is gone.
I reckon injuries may well seriously impact our offensive production, along with the OL struggles.
I'm a big Joe Judge fan, but his comments earlier about our OLine being fine, reallly took me back. I just don't see it. I felt they made a strategic mistake not drafting an offensive lineman in the draft, I would have gone OL first round, WR second round.
And Daniel Jones has been just okay, which is pretty much how he was regarded before he was drafted. He's just okay, nothing more, and we need better than that, so I can see the Giants replacing him next season.

and through the first round of the playoffs

I think anywhere from 5-7 wins is the best we can expect.

Barkley comeback player of the year.

Best defense in the NFL.

Andrew Thomas Orlando Pace's himself into the Pro Bowl.

And I’m being optimistic

I just don't think they're any good. The offensive line is still a losing unit, Daniel Jones has shown more bad than good, and I still don't think the receivers can win their matchups and/or not be injured all of the time.

The defense looks okay and could be a good unit, but is the NFL set up to allow a defense to carry a team anymore?

10-7, though 9-8 seems more like the answer in my gut.

Same-o, same-o.

Its a tossup.

I can't be an optimist after all this bad football...

Lose the nfc championship game by less than or equal to 7 points.

We filled holes with injury riddled players, have a worse OL and a bad QB.

In comment 15348537 arniefez said:

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would have the same record with Aaron Rodgers or Pat Mahomes at QB instead of Daniel Jones is nuts. Those two guys are worth 4-5 extra wins maybe more by themselves. There are probably about a dozen other QBs that would win 2 or 3 more games with this roster than Daniel Jones too. It's not just the OL. It's both. Go back and watch how the OL played last year in Seattle with a QB who knew how to run the game even though he couldn't throw the ball.

This post should be pinned. OL looked better in the Cleveland game too last year.

Mahomes, remains to be seen.

In comment 15349375 Bill L said:

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Lose the nfc championship game by less than or equal to 7 points.

I think Jones is a Pro Bowl alternate this year.

Unless Jones really steps up.

I’m going to pencil Barkley and Galladay down for 13 more or less productive games apiece. I think they rush, as a team for approx 2000 yards. Offense will be flawed but run the ball well enough to control TOP. Defense will be better than 2020. Close to or around 50 sacks. The edge rushers are going to surprise people.

I’ll go 10-7.

..jones will be fine with those two out there.

8-9, but +-2 games wouldn't surprise me

The line against the Broncos has moved to Giants +3.

+3 in the home opener against a team starting Teddy Bridgewater in his first game with the team. Tells you what the oddsmakers feel about what they've been seeing from the Giants.

I am so fucking tired of this shit.

Giants are better than last year.

Although I’m rooting for him, I think Daniel Jones keeps their ceiling at 8-10 wins. Coaching, defense, special teams, and the play of Barkley keep the Giants in the hunt for a playoff spot.

In comment 15349440 Go Terps said:

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The line against the Broncos has moved to Giants +3. +3 in the home opener against a team starting Teddy Bridgewater in his first game with the team. Tells you what the oddsmakers feel about what they've been seeing from the Giants. I am so fucking tired of this shit.

Sorry to hear that. Just a suggestion, maybe try Gambler’s Anonymous? I mean, if you’re so vested in wagering that line changes upset you so, then maybe the support there would help.

In comment 15349446 Bill L said:

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In comment 15349440 Go Terps said: Quote: The line against the Broncos has moved to Giants +3. +3 in the home opener against a team starting Teddy Bridgewater in his first game with the team. Tells you what the oddsmakers feel about what they've been seeing from the Giants. I am so fucking tired of this shit. Sorry to hear that. Just a suggestion, maybe try Gambler’s Anonymous? I mean, if you’re so vested in wagering that line changes upset you so, then maybe the support there would help.

I actually was going to lay off until I saw it move to 3, good buy opportunity and what should be a one possession game either way.

In comment 15349446 Bill L said:

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In comment 15349440 Go Terps said: Quote: The line against the Broncos has moved to Giants +3. +3 in the home opener against a team starting Teddy Bridgewater in his first game with the team. Tells you what the oddsmakers feel about what they've been seeing from the Giants. I am so fucking tired of this shit. Sorry to hear that. Just a suggestion, maybe try Gambler’s Anonymous? I mean, if you’re so vested in wagering that line changes upset you so, then maybe the support there would help.

The sad thing is you probably think you're clever.

the Giants get every year, I'd say 5-12. WFT and the Eagles are smart enough to tank, so 6-11 or 7-10 at best.

The more important question is...

What week does DG get fired? Got a special bottle of bourbon reserved for that announcement.

In comment 15349452 Go Terps said:

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In comment 15349446 Bill L said: Quote: In comment 15349440 Go Terps said: Quote: The line against the Broncos has moved to Giants +3. +3 in the home opener against a team starting Teddy Bridgewater in his first game with the team. Tells you what the oddsmakers feel about what they've been seeing from the Giants. I am so fucking tired of this shit. Sorry to hear that. Just a suggestion, maybe try Gambler’s Anonymous? I mean, if you’re so vested in wagering that line changes upset you so, then maybe the support there would help. The sad thing is you probably think you're clever.

No, just helpful.

In comment 15349456 GMen72 said:

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the Giants get every year, I'd say 5-12. WFT and the Eagles are smart enough to tank, so 6-11 or 7-10 at best. The more important question is... What week does DG get fired? Got a special bottle of bourbon reserved for that announcement.

Gotta pick up some champagne for that myself

In comment 15349466 Bill L said:

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In comment 15349452 Go Terps said: Quote: In comment 15349446 Bill L said: Quote: In comment 15349440 Go Terps said: Quote: The line against the Broncos has moved to Giants +3. +3 in the home opener against a team starting Teddy Bridgewater in his first game with the team. Tells you what the oddsmakers feel about what they've been seeing from the Giants. I am so fucking tired of this shit. Sorry to hear that. Just a suggestion, maybe try Gambler’s Anonymous? I mean, if you’re so vested in wagering that line changes upset you so, then maybe the support there would help. The sad thing is you probably think you're clever. No, just helpful.

You want to be helpful you can start posting intelligently about football instead of other posters. As far as I can tell you just exist here to comment (usually stupidly) about other posters. There's a reason no one's following you around the way you follow me.

I'm thinking we can actually tie a couple because in OT our defense will be tough, but our offense will be rough: a scoreless 15 minutes.

In comment 15349481 Go Terps said:

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In comment 15349466 Bill L said: Quote: In comment 15349452 Go Terps said: Quote: In comment 15349446 Bill L said: Quote: In comment 15349440 Go Terps said: Quote: The line against the Broncos has moved to Giants +3. +3 in the home opener against a team starting Teddy Bridgewater in his first game with the team. Tells you what the oddsmakers feel about what they've been seeing from the Giants. I am so fucking tired of this shit. Sorry to hear that. Just a suggestion, maybe try Gambler’s Anonymous? I mean, if you’re so vested in wagering that line changes upset you so, then maybe the support there would help. The sad thing is you probably think you're clever. No, just helpful. You want to be helpful you can start posting intelligently about football instead of other posters. As far as I can tell you just exist here to comment (usually stupidly) about other posters. There's a reason no one's following you around the way you follow me.

Terps, you do know that the line moves because of how the bets are coming in. So it is not the bookies moving the line, it is the number of bets coming in for the Broncos. Yes, IIRC the original line was +1.5. still home dogs.

Let's see how the line changes when Barkley, Toney, Golladay and Rudolph are practicing next week.

DG, Abrams, Judge (yep, I said it) all let go.

The Maras continue to think they have football acumen and put together another lackluster regime.

Eric decides he's had enough and closes the site

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DG, Abrams, Judge (yep, I said it) all let go. The Maras continue to think they have football acumen and put together another lackluster regime. Eric decides he's had enough and closes the site

Judge won't be let go. Guarantee it. Or only if he lost the dressing room and it's pretty obvious he is not someone that that that happens too.
I would love a fresh start away from Gettleman.

has a huge say in personnel, especially when DG has been on the hot seat.

IF this team is still a hot mess at the end of the year, I don't think Judge is immune from getting the heave ho.

He likely remains, especially with all the money the Giants would owe him, but since I'm being pessimistic, I threw him in. The rest I think are very real possibilities.

His personnel say may get reduced, though.

Ceiling 10 and 7

In comment 15349761 fkap said:

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has a huge say in personnel, especially when DG has been on the hot seat. IF this team is still a hot mess at the end of the year, I don't think Judge is immune from getting the heave ho. He likely remains, especially with all the money the Giants would owe him, but since I'm being pessimistic, I threw him in. The rest I think are very real possibilities. His personnel say may get reduced, though.

He’s not in control of personnel decisions. And, if yet another coach is gone after two years, what does it say about the player personnel department? Yikes.

In comment 15349440 Go Terps said:

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The line against the Broncos has moved to Giants +3. +3 in the home opener against a team starting Teddy Bridgewater in his first game with the team. Tells you what the oddsmakers feel about what they've been seeing from the Giants. I am so fucking tired of this shit.

We're all tired of it.

I know we don't like comparisons and they don't mean fuck all, but back on 2005 the Giants were 1.5 pt favored against the dreadful Cardinals, at Giants stadium. Cards were coming off a 6 win season in 04 and after being expected to go 6-10 in 05, proceeded to go 5-11. Not quite as damning as being a 3 pt home dog vs Denver, but it still illustrates how perennial bad teams are perceived until they are good. Some liked the 05 Giants, many more did not.

Giants have to prove it first, but these predictions of doom and gloom from vegas really don't mean a fucking thing. They have been proven wrong before and will be again.

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DG, Abrams, Judge (yep, I said it) all let go. The Maras continue to think they have football acumen and put together another lackluster regime. Eric decides he's had enough and closes the site

You're out of your mind or just trying to make a memorable prediction. Either way it won't happen. 2-3 of those names have virtually no chance of being fired and I don't think DG gets fired either.

They aren't a bad team. You're all going to see soon enough. Defense can carry a team. It's not all about the offense.

the inclusion of Judge was a 'memorable' one, though I do thing it's an outside possibility.

IF we suck donkey balls again, the management (DG/Abrams) is fair game for the chopping block. A rebuild that has gone nowhere is not grounds for keeping them. A lot depends on why the W column is so low, but deserving or not, there needs to be a scapegoat to give the fan base some reason to stick around, and DG is a prime candidate, with Abrams right behind him.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope the team wins a lot and a solid core of players have been assembled. Until it happens, though, I am not a believer.

even if he sucks. If they are bad again in 2021 (jones and Thomas included) then you likely see a change in the front office but Judge will survive. He wouldn't be wacked for another 2-3 years even if they are underwhelming in that span. Now, if they are 2-15 bad that changes things, but they won't be.

Is within reach.

i cannot take another brutal season. I always scoff at fans that jump ship or stop watching or whatever, but I honestly don't know if I am capable of emotionally coping with another dreadful september and october. Not even kidding, I can take other teams losing but the Giants, after this brutal decade and now getting hopes up with Judge, please not another 1-6 start. It's going to be gross if that happens. Beyond gross. It can't fucking happen again. I refuse to accept that this team won't show progress this season.

Just win ugly. Play defense. Win ugly. Get some traction on the season for one fucking time. Manage the fucking season and get some wins early on. IT aint asking that much with this defense. Go out there and earn this praise everyone is giving them. Win 16-10 type games. No more excuses.

No healthy talent, less wins. The greatest ability is availability, blah blah blah.

5-12

Continued solid but not perfect coaching. Jones’ rep is in shreds by November. Good D. Barkley is injured again.

this season is going to hinge on the first four days of the season - Denver to WFT. That is a tough, tough opening and a real catalyst for the entire outcome. So...

If we somehow go 2-0 to start, we are going 11-6.

If we go 1-1, we are going 9-8.

If we go 0-2, we are going 5-12

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most have the Giants straddling .500 give or take a game or two.

Not that our predictions mean diddly, but that's not exactly a ringing endorsement over last year. Arrow pointing up, but not all that steep a climb. By the time we get to the finishing touches, the first touches will be in need of replacing. One of these years, we need to kill it in the draft, and I don't think that has happened yet.

Last year, a big excuse was first year Judge on a no pre-season covid year. Second year Judge with a pre-season ought to be worth a w or 2.

I'm a pessimist, so that's my excuse for not having much faith.

the NY Giants with a losing record this season at a 3:1 clip...

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in contention for the wild card, the Giants win four of their last four.

And still miss out because the Eagles tanked.

In comment 15351126 Jalapeno said:

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in contention for the wild card, the Giants win four of their last four. And still miss out because the Eagles tanked.

That's not impossible, actually.

Dallas, at Philly, at Chicago and WFT.

The game against WFT could be a playoff game...