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I Love Clams Casino : 8/31/2021 1:02 pm
Sorry but I have us going 0-10, with the first win against Philly and the final record of 4-13. We will pick 3rd in the draft.


for referral, here's the schedule -


Date Day Opponent Time Network
Sep 12 Sun Broncos 4:25 PM FOX
Sep 16 Thu at Washington 8:20 PM NFLN
Sep 26 Sun Falcons 1:00 PM FOX
Oct 3 Sun at Saints 1:00 PM FOX
Oct 10 Sun at Cowboys 4:25 PM* FOX
Oct 17 Sun Rams 1:00 PM* FOX
Oct 24 Sun Panthers 1:00 PM* FOX
Nov 1 Mon at Chiefs 8:15 PM ESPN
Nov 7 Sun Raiders 1:00 PM* CBS
Bye
Nov 22 Mon at Buccaneers 8:15 PM ESPN
Nov 28 Sun Eagles 1:00 PM* FOX
Dec 5 Sun at Dolphins 1:00 PM* FOX
Dec 12 Sun at Chargers 4:05 PM* FOX
Dec 19 Sun Cowboys 1:00 PM* FOX
Dec 26 Sun at Eagles 1:00 PM* FOX
Jan 2 Sun at Bears 1:00 PM* CBS
Jan 9 Sun Washington 1:00 PM* FOX
I say....  
DannyDimes : 8/31/2021 1:04 pm : link
9-8
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BleedBlue : 8/31/2021 1:04 pm : link
10-7
6-11  
The_Boss : 8/31/2021 1:07 pm : link
Dave canned on Christmas Eve
Jones jettisoned in the spring. New GM (not Abrams) and Judge go QB hunting in the spring.
6 wins  
M.S. : 8/31/2021 1:08 pm : link

11 losses.

Could be worse.

Might be a tad better (7 wins).
RE: 6-11  
I Love Clams Casino : 8/31/2021 1:11 pm : link
In comment 15348197 The_Boss said:
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Dave canned on Christmas Eve
Jones jettisoned in the spring. New GM (not Abrams) and Judge go QB hunting in the spring.


This organization has been flailing wildly since 2011 trying to improve. It's like watching some idiot trying to punch a bee in the air.

What's the only constant since that time? Hmmmmmmm
0 and Fuck  
colin : 8/31/2021 1:12 pm : link
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If the Giants go 0-10  
Eli2020 : 8/31/2021 1:14 pm : link
and Daniel Jones + half the defense isn't injured, I will probably give up on being a fan.

That is by far the most asinine, pessimistic, self-deprecating thing I've heard on here in quite some time.
11-6  
Milton : 8/31/2021 1:15 pm : link
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I have the Giants losing the Super Bowl. It sucks, I know, but we win it the following year.
RE: If the Giants go 0-10  
Bruner4329 : 8/31/2021 1:18 pm : link
In comment 15348217 Eli2020 said:
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and Daniel Jones + half the defense isn't injured, I will probably give up on being a fan.

That is by far the most asinine, pessimistic, self-deprecating thing I've heard on here in quite some time.


Agree 100%. Listen even if we resemble the team that played the last 8 games last year (and I think we are better anyway) there is no freakin way we go 0-10. People on this Board can be totally insane at times.
I'd rather start 0-10 then finish 7-10 or 8-9.  
AJ23 : 8/31/2021 1:19 pm : link
That's where I'm at. Anything less than playoffs is an abject failure and Jones should be jettisoned.
Actually, after a second glance at schedule...  
Milton : 8/31/2021 1:20 pm : link
I don't know what I was thinking, it looks more like 13-4 or 12-5 at worst, but I still don't have them winning the Super Bowl this year unless it's the Patriots because we always beat them in Super Bowls. Or the Bills because there's no way Josh Allen beats Daniel Jones. Or Cleveland, Baltimore, and Pittsburg, because they're not that good. But if it's a healthy Kansas City, I can't see the Giants beating them this year. But with improvements coming from the 2022 draft, the Giants will dominate the remainder of the decade. Take it the bank! They love hearing stories like that at the bank.
.500 record  
NewBlue : 8/31/2021 1:25 pm : link
8-8-1
I can't predict the record.  
FStubbs : 8/31/2021 1:26 pm : link
On paper we should have an 8-9 win team. In actually, the offensive line still seems like the worst in the NFL, so that could derail the season.

If Jones somehow takes his game to the next level though, that could mean 1-2 more wins. If he regresses, the team wins 4-5 games and we clean house. Again.

Can we at least win our season opener for once? Other than 2016 the Giants have started 0-2 or worse every year since 2012.
8-9  
Sean : 8/31/2021 1:32 pm : link
I think the team will be well coached, and the defense keeping every game close. Jones & the OL is just too much to overcome.
7-10  
Jints in Carolina : 8/31/2021 1:34 pm : link
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10-6  
5BowlsSoon : 8/31/2021 1:35 pm : link
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7-10  
Greg from LI : 8/31/2021 1:38 pm : link
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7-10  
Gregorio : 8/31/2021 1:39 pm : link
as much as I want to believe they have improved, I need to see it to believe it.
6-11  
Go Terps : 8/31/2021 1:40 pm : link
Well coached (except for Garrett), but the roster is terrible... especially on offense. You can see them scrambling now at OL...too late.

Not looking good.
Too much stock  
Dukie Dimes : 8/31/2021 1:41 pm : link
Being placed in the preseason. First few games will look similar, but once offensive weapons get reintegrated (assuming no injuries), they will be a lot better than they have shown so far.
0-10 would be catastrophic.  
Vin_Cuccs : 8/31/2021 1:41 pm : link
And also pretty unlikely. Even in the worst case scenarios, I think they could get a win or two against Denver, Atlanta, Carolina, and Las Vegas.
RE: 0-10 would be catastrophic.  
Old Blue : 8/31/2021 1:42 pm : link
In comment 15348292 Vin_Cuccs said:
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And also pretty unlikely. Even in the worst case scenarios, I think they could get a win or two against Denver, Atlanta, Carolina, and Las Vegas.


6-11
Before pre-season  
Josh in the City : 8/31/2021 1:43 pm : link
I would have said 10 or 11 wins. But with Galloday, Saquon, and Toney barely being on the field for training camp along with what I thought was the same old offense and QB/oline play Sunday night, I just don't think this team is ready to compete. I'll say 7-10.
7-10  
JonC : 8/31/2021 1:43 pm : link
If some bounces go their way, 8-9 wins is a possibility.
I will go  
PaulN : 8/31/2021 1:44 pm : link
With 9-8.
10-7 is doable if relatively healthy  
George from PA : 8/31/2021 1:44 pm : link
But there is a lot of negativity after NE game.


I am going to hold judgment until I see final team
10-7  
Biteymax22 : 8/31/2021 1:44 pm : link
You're never as bad as you look when you're bad, and never as good as you look when your good, but our defense has Top 5 potential and our offense, even with the OL as is, will be better once you add in Golladay, Barkley, Rudolph and Toney.

Our division sucking helps too.
6-11  
The Jake : 8/31/2021 1:46 pm : link
and the merciful end of the Gettleman era.
7-10  
noro9 : 8/31/2021 1:47 pm : link
We'll run off a few meaningless wins towards the end of the season. Everyone will get a hardon and say we're on the right track.
Nearly as important  
JohnG in Albany : 8/31/2021 1:48 pm : link
Predict the Bears record. *grin*
If Barkley, Golladay, Toney, and Lemieux are actually healthy...  
Milton : 8/31/2021 1:48 pm : link
...to start the season (and aren't playing hurt), there is no reason they shouldn't start the year 7-0 or 6-1. The Broncos, Cowboys, Falcons, and Panthers suck. The WTF's have a solid team, but are just as beatable as they were last year; the Saints won't be the same team without Brees; and the Rams will collapse under Stafford's leadership.

It's really a favorable schedule other than playing the AFC and NFC defending champs on the road. Dolphins and Chargers are also potentially tough opponents they will be facing on the road, but the good news is that other than the Bucs, these are AFC teams I'm talking about. The Giants NFC schedule is rather soft.
10-7  
Gap92 : 8/31/2021 1:48 pm : link
We do well in the division as we improve, Dallas takes a step back, Philly takes several steps back, and even though WAS also improves, we still manage to have their number.

4-2 in division - one loss each to DAL and WAS.

RE: If Barkley, Golladay, Toney, and Lemieux are actually healthy...  
NewBlue : 8/31/2021 1:50 pm : link
In comment 15348311 Milton said:
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...to start the season (and aren't playing hurt), there is no reason they shouldn't start the year 7-0 or 6-1. The Broncos, Cowboys, Falcons, and Panthers suck. The WTF's have a solid team, but are just as beatable as they were last year; the Saints won't be the same team without Brees; and the Rams will collapse under Stafford's leadership.

It's really a favorable schedule other than playing the AFC and NFC defending champs on the road. Dolphins and Chargers are also potentially tough opponents they will be facing on the road, but the good news is that other than the Bucs, these are AFC teams I'm talking about. The Giants NFC schedule is rather soft.

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6-11  
US1 Giants : 8/31/2021 1:52 pm : link
and the Giants draft a new QB
i'm going with 10-7  
cjac : 8/31/2021 1:52 pm : link
i'm optimistic based on the second half of last season. I think with the Defense and Judge the Giants win more of those close games late. You know the ones, the ones they used to always lose
9-10 wins  
giants#1 : 8/31/2021 1:53 pm : link
5-1 in the division

I can see 4+ wins from this group:
Broncos
Falcons
at Saints
Panthers
Raiders
at Dolphins
at Chargers
at Bears


RE: Nearly as important  
Milton : 8/31/2021 1:57 pm : link
In comment 15348310 JohnG in Albany said:
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Predict the Bears record. *grin*
Other than two games against Detroit, the Bears have it rough with non-division games against the AFC North and NFC West (probably the two most competitive divisions in the NFL). It will be hard for them to finish worse than Houston, Detroit, and Jacksonville, but there's a good chance their pick will be in the top five or six, surely in the top ten. I'm gonna say 4-11 or 5-12 for them.

p.s.--And with some bad luck, they could finish with the worst record in football. But I'm not greedy, I'd be thrilled with a top three pick.
RE: Nearly as important  
The_Boss : 8/31/2021 1:59 pm : link
In comment 15348310 JohnG in Albany said:
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Predict the Bears record. *grin*


4-13

And with our predicted 6-11, our new GM can trade up for our next QB if needed (JT Daniels???)
6-11 or 7-10  
Mike from SI : 8/31/2021 2:00 pm : link
seem about right.
I'm at 7-10. Defense still carries  
Section331 : 8/31/2021 2:00 pm : link
the show, but still takes a small step back from last year. O is a little better, but still bottom 1/3 of the league.
6-11  
rnargi : 8/31/2021 2:00 pm : link
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If we don't beat the Falcons at home Game 4,  
Section331 : 8/31/2021 2:01 pm : link
it's going to be a long year.
7-10  
State Your Name : 8/31/2021 2:01 pm : link
double role-reversal... we sweep Eagles, Redskins sweep us.
8-9  
Giants86 : 8/31/2021 2:01 pm : link
Too many bad teams in the NFL. This team will compete.
Defense should be solid and keep us in games. Offense will struggle early and hopefully once the walking wounded come back, hit their stride.
RE: If Barkley, Golladay, Toney, and Lemieux are actually healthy...  
Section331 : 8/31/2021 2:02 pm : link
In comment 15348311 Milton said:
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...to start the season (and aren't playing hurt), there is no reason they shouldn't start the year 7-0 or 6-1. The Broncos, Cowboys, Falcons, and Panthers suck. The WTF's have a solid team, but are just as beatable as they were last year; the Saints won't be the same team without Brees; and the Rams will collapse under Stafford's leadership.

It's really a favorable schedule other than playing the AFC and NFC defending champs on the road. Dolphins and Chargers are also potentially tough opponents they will be facing on the road, but the good news is that other than the Bucs, these are AFC teams I'm talking about. The Giants NFC schedule is rather soft.


No reason they shouldn't start 7-0 or 6-1??? I don't know what state you live in, but I want some of what you're smoking! ;-)
I need 8 wins to win my bet  
ZogZerg : 8/31/2021 2:04 pm : link
I'm a little nervous about that...
RE: RE: If Barkley, Golladay, Toney, and Lemieux are actually healthy...  
Milton : 8/31/2021 2:05 pm : link
In comment 15348360 Section331 said:
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No reason they shouldn't start 7-0 or 6-1??? I don't know what state you live in, but I want some of what you're smoking! ;-)
Massachusetts, where it's legal, but I grow my own. Maybe I should advertise my weed as "from the guy who thinks the Giants start the year 7-0 and go to the Super Bowl!"
8-9  
Les in TO : 8/31/2021 2:06 pm : link
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I think 6 sounds about right  
Essex : 8/31/2021 2:10 pm : link
I also think if we are not at least 2-2 after 4, it could get really ugly. We have not gotten off to good starts recentl and given the SOS of the first four games that needs to change this year. 3-1 would be ideal (split Washington and Denver and beat both Atlanta and NO).
If the Record Stinks  
Samiam : 8/31/2021 2:14 pm : link
If they are bad and the OL plays all season the way they played against NE, how do you evaluate Daniel Jones?
6-11  
arniefez : 8/31/2021 2:15 pm : link
I was optimistic coming into this season with 3 caveats. Jones plays better, the Giants have a decent to good OL and they stay healthy.

Jones - he hasn't played a game that counts yet. Let's Strat with that. The one time we saw him this year he was the exact same player he's been since he was drafted. He made a great throw, he turned the ball over inside in the 5 yard line. He got hit a lot. The ball came out late. He struggled or didn't have the time to scan the field. None of that had anything to do with a game plan. SSDY.

OL - The QB got hit a lot. The run blocking was not good on most plays. There is no depth as of now. There isn't a single above average OL on the roster again. It's hard to figure out if the OT's are worse than the OG's. Major draft capital has been spent to build this line and none of them is a plus player.

Injuries - The Giants gave BIG money to two skilled (WR & CB) FAs with injury histories. Both are already hurt neither is practicing now. Barkley hasn't taken a hit yet and who knows what level he'll get back to. Rudolph hasn't been hit yet and is now the starter because Engram is now injured and has always been a slow healer. The #1, #3 & #4 draft picks haven't practiced at all yet. The #2 pick is already being "managed" with "a leg injury" after dropping in the draft because of past knee issues. The starting LG who was a big question mark to begin with has a knee injury and didn't play with the starters.

So what I hoped could be a 10 win team if everything went right has had almost everything go wrong before game 1. Sadly my record predictions the past fews years have been pretty accurate. Please let me be wrong this year. Win 11 games. Why not us?
Undefeated  
upnyg : 8/31/2021 2:16 pm : link
17-0. the OL clicks in game 1
8-9 or 9-8.  
Ira : 8/31/2021 2:17 pm : link
We're getting there, but aren't there yet.
9-8  
Johnny5 : 8/31/2021 2:18 pm : link
Unless we have luck with injuries. If we stay relatively healthy I can see us with 10 wins.
7-10  
averagejoe : 8/31/2021 2:19 pm : link
Preseason has given Giants very little to hope for since none of our FA's or draft picks actually play football.

If Thomas and Peart fail DJ will not improve and it will be last season all over again.

First thought was 6-11, but hoping for a little better (obviously).  
bceagle05 : 8/31/2021 2:23 pm : link
Bad OL, weak pass rush and mediocre QB is a lot to overcome.
Again for the morons on the board  
Carl in CT : 8/31/2021 2:24 pm : link
The Giants can trade for any QB in this league or draft a QB next year but until the OL is fixed (not saying it’s not time will tell) the QB will suck. This includes the best of them!!!
4-13  
fivehead : 8/31/2021 2:26 pm : link
They beat Washington on Jan 9th to give us a glimmer of hope for next year, but lose valuable draft position.
7-9-1  
Metnut : 8/31/2021 2:33 pm : link
Team competes and stays in games but too many mistakes by the OL and too many turnovers from the QB keep NYG from seriously making a run at the playoffs.

Jones shows enough flashes to have his defenders (particularly given the likely awful OL play) but doesn’t really prove to anyone that he’s a franchise QB.

FWIW, I think the Bears to 6-11ish, so Giants would get first round picks in the #7-#10 range and the #10-#14 range.
10-7  
OntheRoad : 8/31/2021 2:33 pm : link
Second half of last season (5-3) is a better comparison point than the first half.
Did not like what I Saw overall on Sunday  
Sec 103 : 8/31/2021 2:37 pm : link
That said, no idea anything said now is just a SWAG...
Gut says Over 8 wins.
Brain says 5...
Hope to hell I'm wrong.
7-10  
rsjem1979 : 8/31/2021 2:47 pm : link
But in an absolute nightmare scenario they win 3 of their last 4 and Getty & the gang is all back in 2022 because Mara sees progress.
Anyone who thinks that the 2021 Giants  
arniefez : 8/31/2021 2:47 pm : link
would have the same record with Aaron Rodgers or Pat Mahomes at QB instead of Daniel Jones is nuts. Those two guys are worth 4-5 extra wins maybe more by themselves.

There are probably about a dozen other QBs that would win 2 or 3 more games with this roster than Daniel Jones too. It's not just the OL. It's both. Go back and watch how the OL played last year in Seattle with a QB who knew how to run the game even though he couldn't throw the ball.
If we are going to war with the existing Offensive Tackles  
Jimmy Googs : 8/31/2021 2:49 pm : link
then its difficult to predict a winning record...
RE: 9-10 wins  
wahl35 : 8/31/2021 2:59 pm : link
In comment 15348326 giants#1 said:
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5-1 in the division

I can see 4+ wins from this group:
Broncos
Falcons
at Saints
Panthers
Raiders
at Dolphins
at Chargers
at Bears



I like it. Even with 4-2 in division, 5 wins are do-able in those other games.
8-9  
Doubledeuce22 : 8/31/2021 3:17 pm : link
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4 wins max this year  
Br00klyn : 8/31/2021 3:22 pm : link
cant win many games if your OLine is trash, but at this point i guess were pretty much used to it
Schedule  
Zeke's Alibi : 8/31/2021 3:22 pm : link
Broncos - Loss
WFT - Loss
Falcons - Win
Saints - Loss
Cowboys - Win
Rams - Win (1 PM game at home)
Panthers - Win
Chiefs - Loss
Raiders - Win
Bucs - Loss
Eagles - Win
Dolphins - Loss
Chargers - Win
Cowboys - Win
Eagles - Win
Bears - Win
WFT - Win


11-6 Teams futures bright - I did score some of the toss ups as wins in the name of optimism (Rams/Chargers). Have us pegged at 9.5 wins on the total.

Mock me all you want, but this is a solid football team and the schedule sets up great going into the playoffs. May be the hottest team in football come January.
10-7  
George : 8/31/2021 3:24 pm : link
NFC East champs thanks to a light schedule and a weak division. I think there's a good chance that DAL, WTF, and PHIL all have sub .500 seasons.

I cannot believe the gnashing of teeth over DJ's performance three days ago in his first live action in nine months - without having at his disposal four of his most important offensive weapons for the 2021 campaign and an offensive line that already looks radically different than it did against NE. I actually thought he played pretty damn well, save for one bad decision.

The defense will be good, but still needs that dominant pass rusher. An improved secondary will help in that department though.

OL is the big question mark, of course. I like the recent additions, but suspect it'll take about two regular season games for them to settle in and gel with everyone else. By Oct. 1 I think we'll see some pretty decent play from the whole team.
4 - 13  
thrunthrublue : 8/31/2021 3:25 pm : link
D.G. Let go before ‘22 draft…..journeyman albatross 8 demoted to cam Newton status……giants draft a real left tackle, qb under new leadership….the long suffering giants finally start winning again.
5-12  
crackerjack465 : 8/31/2021 3:42 pm : link
The line is bad and I don't think Jones is the answer at QB.

Even with Barkley back, I don't see us scoring a lot of points. I can't see him playing in all 17 games with this line blocking for him.

Garrett is gone during the bye week and DG is fired during the offseason.
RE: RE: Nearly as important  
Zeke's Alibi : 8/31/2021 3:45 pm : link
In comment 15348339 Milton said:
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In comment 15348310 JohnG in Albany said:


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Predict the Bears record. *grin*

Other than two games against Detroit, the Bears have it rough with non-division games against the AFC North and NFC West (probably the two most competitive divisions in the NFL). It will be hard for them to finish worse than Houston, Detroit, and Jacksonville, but there's a good chance their pick will be in the top five or six, surely in the top ten. I'm gonna say 4-11 or 5-12 for them.

p.s.--And with some bad luck, they could finish with the worst record in football. But I'm not greedy, I'd be thrilled with a top three pick.


Unless Dalton and Fields got hurt they aren't going to compete with the worst teams of football. Top 5 is certainly possible though.
With all the investments...  
bw in dc : 8/31/2021 3:48 pm : link
on offense, especially to elevate Jones, this has to be a 10 win team - right? Double digit wins has to be on Mara's radar...


I just don't know where on the schedule these 10 wins are.

These specific road games are brutal - WFT, Saints, Chiefs, Tampa, Miami and LA Chargers. Talented teams on both sides of the ball. I mean, that's very likely 6 losses right there...
I agree with many here  
dlauster : 8/31/2021 3:58 pm : link
I just don't see anything past 8 wins.

Until this team proves they can play with consistency on offense, I think we are wishfully thinking.
5-12  
Mendenhall : 8/31/2021 4:09 pm : link
Gettleman is fired. We are in the middle of a 20 yr down cycle trying to find a franchise QB.
Hmm...  
Vinny from Danbury : 8/31/2021 4:11 pm : link
11-6.
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Danny Kanell : 8/31/2021 4:17 pm : link
We were 6-10 last year and I'm sorry, this team has more talent than the team that was on the field last year. It's also the QB's 2nd year in this offense (Which I admittedly don't like because I hate Garrett) and it's not the first year of a new program.

I also don't think our schedule is very difficult.

This feels like an above .500 season to me. I think we go 10-7. I have a lot of faith in the coaching staff (Outside of Garrett) and I think they have more talent to work with than they did last year, with a full year under their belt.

Just fucking beat Denver and we'll all feel so much better. I truly believe that. This team needs to win their first game in the worst way.
9-8  
darren in pdx : 8/31/2021 4:21 pm : link
and just miss the Wild Card spot.
 
christian : 8/31/2021 4:22 pm : link
I think the defensive line will take a slight step back, and the back 8 a step forward.

Offensively, I think the line is going to be a disaster, while the skill positions are markedly improved.

+2 wins from last year 8-9.
We can't keep anybody healthy.  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 8/31/2021 4:23 pm : link

So unfortunately I see a 5-12 season.

If we could keep the starters healthy and our draft picks developed and our FA signings pan out? We could win the east. That would be amazing but I just don't see it with Garrett and Jones. Hope I'm wrong.
2-15  
section125 : 8/31/2021 4:26 pm : link
They get the 1st and 2nd picks in 2022 for the new GM...
4-13. Offense continues to be bad and defense  
mikeinbloomfield : 8/31/2021 4:51 pm : link
regresses.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 8/31/2021 4:53 pm : link
I say 8-8-1. I see 6-9 wins. I'd be a little surprised but not stunned at double digit wins. I'd be pretty stunned by either 13 wins or 3. I see a roughly average football team and think the defense adds a floor to the team.
6-11  
trueblueinpw : 8/31/2021 4:56 pm : link
Maybe 7-10
I'll  
DanMetroMan : 8/31/2021 5:00 pm : link
go with 6-11
10 and 7  
islander1 : 8/31/2021 5:28 pm : link
this team is better than most think, if relatively healthy.
0-17  
T in NJ : 8/31/2021 5:34 pm : link
To appease the Football Gods, don’t want to be smited for hubris.
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Gruber : 8/31/2021 5:35 pm : link
I'm no expert, that's for sure.
6-11 or 7-10.
Defense ranks around 8th in league.
Offense ranks around 25th in league.
If the over all record is worse, and maybe even if it is as above, then Gettleman (hopefully) is gone.
I reckon injuries may well seriously impact our offensive production, along with the OL struggles.
I'm a big Joe Judge fan, but his comments earlier about our OLine being fine, reallly took me back. I just don't see it. I felt they made a strategic mistake not drafting an offensive lineman in the draft, I would have gone OL first round, WR second round.
And Daniel Jones has been just okay, which is pretty much how he was regarded before he was drafted. He's just okay, nothing more, and we need better than that, so I can see the Giants replacing him next season.
11-6  
gidiefor : Mod : 8/31/2021 5:37 pm : link
and through the first round of the playoffs
6-11  
BlueVinnie : 8/31/2021 5:37 pm : link
I think anywhere from 5-7 wins is the best we can expect.
13-4  
Mike in Marin : 8/31/2021 6:14 pm : link
Barkley comeback player of the year.

Best defense in the NFL.

Andrew Thomas Orlando Pace's himself into the Pro Bowl.
7-10  
jeff57 : 8/31/2021 6:21 pm : link
And I’m being optimistic
5-12  
BigBlueBuff : 8/31/2021 6:40 pm : link
I just don't think they're any good. The offensive line is still a losing unit, Daniel Jones has shown more bad than good, and I still don't think the receivers can win their matchups and/or not be injured all of the time.

The defense looks okay and could be a good unit, but is the NFL set up to allow a defense to carry a team anymore?
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/31/2021 7:04 pm : link
10-7, though 9-8 seems more like the answer in my gut.
7-10  
Spider43 : 8/31/2021 7:05 pm : link
Same-o, same-o.
8-9 or 9-8  
Ike#88 : 8/31/2021 7:07 pm : link
Its a tossup.
4-13  
bestt : 8/31/2021 8:53 pm : link
I can't be an optimist after all this bad football...
11-6  
Bill L : 8/31/2021 8:54 pm : link
Lose the nfc championship game by less than or equal to 7 points.
4-5 wins tops  
Joey in VA : 8/31/2021 9:08 pm : link
We filled holes with injury riddled players, have a worse OL and a bad QB.
RE: Anyone who thinks that the 2021 Giants  
Sean : 8/31/2021 9:21 pm : link
In comment 15348537 arniefez said:
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would have the same record with Aaron Rodgers or Pat Mahomes at QB instead of Daniel Jones is nuts. Those two guys are worth 4-5 extra wins maybe more by themselves.

There are probably about a dozen other QBs that would win 2 or 3 more games with this roster than Daniel Jones too. It's not just the OL. It's both. Go back and watch how the OL played last year in Seattle with a QB who knew how to run the game even though he couldn't throw the ball.

This post should be pinned. OL looked better in the Cleveland game too last year.
I think how the 2021 giants perform with Daniel Jones, Rodgers, or  
Bill L : 8/31/2021 9:29 pm : link
Mahomes, remains to be seen.
RE: 11-6  
Bill L : 8/31/2021 9:30 pm : link
In comment 15349375 Bill L said:
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Lose the nfc championship game by less than or equal to 7 points.


I think Jones is a Pro Bowl alternate this year.
Going with 8-9  
ChathamMark : 8/31/2021 9:40 pm : link
Unless Jones really steps up.
10-7  
djm : 8/31/2021 9:55 pm : link
I’m going to pencil Barkley and Galladay down for 13 more or less productive games apiece. I think they rush, as a team for approx 2000 yards. Offense will be flawed but run the ball well enough to control TOP. Defense will be better than 2020. Close to or around 50 sacks. The edge rushers are going to surprise people.

I’ll go 10-7.
Key to the season is Barkley and galladay  
djm : 8/31/2021 9:56 pm : link
..jones will be fine with those two out there.
.  
Banks : 8/31/2021 10:01 pm : link
8-9, but +-2 games wouldn't surprise me
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Go Terps : 8/31/2021 10:02 pm : link
The line against the Broncos has moved to Giants +3.

+3 in the home opener against a team starting Teddy Bridgewater in his first game with the team. Tells you what the oddsmakers feel about what they've been seeing from the Giants.

I am so fucking tired of this shit.
9-8  
gary_from_chester : 8/31/2021 10:03 pm : link
Giants are better than last year.

Although I’m rooting for him, I think Daniel Jones keeps their ceiling at 8-10 wins. Coaching, defense, special teams, and the play of Barkley keep the Giants in the hunt for a playoff spot.
RE: .  
Bill L : 8/31/2021 10:05 pm : link
In comment 15349440 Go Terps said:
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The line against the Broncos has moved to Giants +3.

+3 in the home opener against a team starting Teddy Bridgewater in his first game with the team. Tells you what the oddsmakers feel about what they've been seeing from the Giants.

I am so fucking tired of this shit.


Sorry to hear that. Just a suggestion, maybe try Gambler’s Anonymous? I mean, if you’re so vested in wagering that line changes upset you so, then maybe the support there would help.
RE: RE: .  
Zeke's Alibi : 8/31/2021 10:10 pm : link
In comment 15349446 Bill L said:
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In comment 15349440 Go Terps said:


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The line against the Broncos has moved to Giants +3.

+3 in the home opener against a team starting Teddy Bridgewater in his first game with the team. Tells you what the oddsmakers feel about what they've been seeing from the Giants.

I am so fucking tired of this shit.



Sorry to hear that. Just a suggestion, maybe try Gambler’s Anonymous? I mean, if you’re so vested in wagering that line changes upset you so, then maybe the support there would help.


I actually was going to lay off until I saw it move to 3, good buy opportunity and what should be a one possession game either way.

RE: RE: .  
Go Terps : 8/31/2021 10:10 pm : link
In comment 15349446 Bill L said:
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In comment 15349440 Go Terps said:


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The line against the Broncos has moved to Giants +3.

+3 in the home opener against a team starting Teddy Bridgewater in his first game with the team. Tells you what the oddsmakers feel about what they've been seeing from the Giants.

I am so fucking tired of this shit.



Sorry to hear that. Just a suggestion, maybe try Gambler’s Anonymous? I mean, if you’re so vested in wagering that line changes upset you so, then maybe the support there would help.


The sad thing is you probably think you're clever.
If it wasn't for the 1-2 wins  
GMen72 : 8/31/2021 10:12 pm : link
the Giants get every year, I'd say 5-12. WFT and the Eagles are smart enough to tank, so 6-11 or 7-10 at best.

The more important question is...

What week does DG get fired? Got a special bottle of bourbon reserved for that announcement.
RE: RE: RE: .  
Bill L : 8/31/2021 10:25 pm : link
In comment 15349452 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15349446 Bill L said:


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In comment 15349440 Go Terps said:


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The line against the Broncos has moved to Giants +3.

+3 in the home opener against a team starting Teddy Bridgewater in his first game with the team. Tells you what the oddsmakers feel about what they've been seeing from the Giants.

I am so fucking tired of this shit.



Sorry to hear that. Just a suggestion, maybe try Gambler’s Anonymous? I mean, if you’re so vested in wagering that line changes upset you so, then maybe the support there would help.



The sad thing is you probably think you're clever.

No, just helpful.
RE: If it wasn't for the 1-2 wins  
Scooter185 : 8/31/2021 10:42 pm : link
In comment 15349456 GMen72 said:
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the Giants get every year, I'd say 5-12. WFT and the Eagles are smart enough to tank, so 6-11 or 7-10 at best.

The more important question is...

What week does DG get fired? Got a special bottle of bourbon reserved for that announcement.


Gotta pick up some champagne for that myself
RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
Go Terps : 8/31/2021 10:51 pm : link
In comment 15349466 Bill L said:
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In comment 15349452 Go Terps said:


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In comment 15349446 Bill L said:


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In comment 15349440 Go Terps said:


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The line against the Broncos has moved to Giants +3.

+3 in the home opener against a team starting Teddy Bridgewater in his first game with the team. Tells you what the oddsmakers feel about what they've been seeing from the Giants.

I am so fucking tired of this shit.



Sorry to hear that. Just a suggestion, maybe try Gambler’s Anonymous? I mean, if you’re so vested in wagering that line changes upset you so, then maybe the support there would help.



The sad thing is you probably think you're clever.


No, just helpful.


You want to be helpful you can start posting intelligently about football instead of other posters. As far as I can tell you just exist here to comment (usually stupidly) about other posters. There's a reason no one's following you around the way you follow me.
7-8-2  
CT Charlie : 8/31/2021 11:15 pm : link
I'm thinking we can actually tie a couple because in OT our defense will be tough, but our offense will be rough: a scoreless 15 minutes.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: .  
section125 : 9/1/2021 5:28 am : link
In comment 15349481 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15349466 Bill L said:


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In comment 15349452 Go Terps said:


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In comment 15349446 Bill L said:


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In comment 15349440 Go Terps said:


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The line against the Broncos has moved to Giants +3.

+3 in the home opener against a team starting Teddy Bridgewater in his first game with the team. Tells you what the oddsmakers feel about what they've been seeing from the Giants.

I am so fucking tired of this shit.



Sorry to hear that. Just a suggestion, maybe try Gambler’s Anonymous? I mean, if you’re so vested in wagering that line changes upset you so, then maybe the support there would help.



The sad thing is you probably think you're clever.


No, just helpful.



You want to be helpful you can start posting intelligently about football instead of other posters. As far as I can tell you just exist here to comment (usually stupidly) about other posters. There's a reason no one's following you around the way you follow me.


Terps, you do know that the line moves because of how the bets are coming in. So it is not the bookies moving the line, it is the number of bets coming in for the Broncos. Yes, IIRC the original line was +1.5. still home dogs.

Let's see how the line changes when Barkley, Toney, Golladay and Rudolph are practicing next week.
5-12  
fkap : 9/1/2021 9:18 am : link
DG, Abrams, Judge (yep, I said it) all let go.

The Maras continue to think they have football acumen and put together another lackluster regime.

Eric decides he's had enough and closes the site
RE: 5-12  
Gruber : 9/1/2021 9:26 am : link
In comment 15349723 fkap said:
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DG, Abrams, Judge (yep, I said it) all let go.

The Maras continue to think they have football acumen and put together another lackluster regime.

Eric decides he's had enough and closes the site


Judge won't be let go. Guarantee it. Or only if he lost the dressing room and it's pretty obvious he is not someone that that that happens too.
I would love a fresh start away from Gettleman.
I'm a believer that the HC  
fkap : 9/1/2021 9:43 am : link
has a huge say in personnel, especially when DG has been on the hot seat.

IF this team is still a hot mess at the end of the year, I don't think Judge is immune from getting the heave ho.

He likely remains, especially with all the money the Giants would owe him, but since I'm being pessimistic, I threw him in. The rest I think are very real possibilities.

His personnel say may get reduced, though.
Floor 6 and 11  
Grey Pilgrim : 9/1/2021 9:56 am : link
Ceiling 10 and 7
RE: I'm a believer that the HC  
Sean : 9/1/2021 10:01 am : link
In comment 15349761 fkap said:
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has a huge say in personnel, especially when DG has been on the hot seat.

IF this team is still a hot mess at the end of the year, I don't think Judge is immune from getting the heave ho.

He likely remains, especially with all the money the Giants would owe him, but since I'm being pessimistic, I threw him in. The rest I think are very real possibilities.

His personnel say may get reduced, though.

He’s not in control of personnel decisions. And, if yet another coach is gone after two years, what does it say about the player personnel department? Yikes.
RE: .  
djm : 9/1/2021 11:16 am : link
In comment 15349440 Go Terps said:
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The line against the Broncos has moved to Giants +3.

+3 in the home opener against a team starting Teddy Bridgewater in his first game with the team. Tells you what the oddsmakers feel about what they've been seeing from the Giants.

I am so fucking tired of this shit.


We're all tired of it.

I know we don't like comparisons and they don't mean fuck all, but back on 2005 the Giants were 1.5 pt favored against the dreadful Cardinals, at Giants stadium. Cards were coming off a 6 win season in 04 and after being expected to go 6-10 in 05, proceeded to go 5-11. Not quite as damning as being a 3 pt home dog vs Denver, but it still illustrates how perennial bad teams are perceived until they are good. Some liked the 05 Giants, many more did not.

Giants have to prove it first, but these predictions of doom and gloom from vegas really don't mean a fucking thing. They have been proven wrong before and will be again.
RE: 5-12  
djm : 9/1/2021 11:19 am : link
In comment 15349723 fkap said:
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DG, Abrams, Judge (yep, I said it) all let go.

The Maras continue to think they have football acumen and put together another lackluster regime.

Eric decides he's had enough and closes the site


You're out of your mind or just trying to make a memorable prediction. Either way it won't happen. 2-3 of those names have virtually no chance of being fired and I don't think DG gets fired either.

They aren't a bad team. You're all going to see soon enough. Defense can carry a team. It's not all about the offense.
Yes  
fkap : 9/1/2021 11:33 am : link
the inclusion of Judge was a 'memorable' one, though I do thing it's an outside possibility.

IF we suck donkey balls again, the management (DG/Abrams) is fair game for the chopping block. A rebuild that has gone nowhere is not grounds for keeping them. A lot depends on why the W column is so low, but deserving or not, there needs to be a scapegoat to give the fan base some reason to stick around, and DG is a prime candidate, with Abrams right behind him.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope the team wins a lot and a solid core of players have been assembled. Until it happens, though, I am not a believer.
Judge will be here a while  
djm : 9/1/2021 11:36 am : link
even if he sucks. If they are bad again in 2021 (jones and Thomas included) then you likely see a change in the front office but Judge will survive. He wouldn't be wacked for another 2-3 years even if they are underwhelming in that span. Now, if they are 2-15 bad that changes things, but they won't be.

7 - 10  
SomeFan : 9/1/2021 11:38 am : link
Is within reach.
one thing is for certain  
djm : 9/1/2021 11:47 am : link
i cannot take another brutal season. I always scoff at fans that jump ship or stop watching or whatever, but I honestly don't know if I am capable of emotionally coping with another dreadful september and october. Not even kidding, I can take other teams losing but the Giants, after this brutal decade and now getting hopes up with Judge, please not another 1-6 start. It's going to be gross if that happens. Beyond gross. It can't fucking happen again. I refuse to accept that this team won't show progress this season.

Just win ugly. Play defense. Win ugly. Get some traction on the season for one fucking time. Manage the fucking season and get some wins early on. IT aint asking that much with this defense. Go out there and earn this praise everyone is giving them. Win 16-10 type games. No more excuses.
Talent can’t stay healthy  
family progtitioner : 9/1/2021 12:35 pm : link
No healthy talent, less wins. The greatest ability is availability, blah blah blah.

5-12
7-10  
cosmicj : 9/1/2021 12:48 pm : link
Continued solid but not perfect coaching. Jones’ rep is in shreds by November. Good D. Barkley is injured again.
Okay...  
bw in dc : 9/2/2021 8:43 am : link
this season is going to hinge on the first four days of the season - Denver to WFT. That is a tough, tough opening and a real catalyst for the entire outcome. So...

If we somehow go 2-0 to start, we are going 11-6.

If we go 1-1, we are going 9-8.

If we go 0-2, we are going 5-12
7-8 wins. Less if they're unlucky with injuries.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/2/2021 8:50 am : link
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wow  
fkap : 9/2/2021 9:33 am : link
most have the Giants straddling .500 give or take a game or two.

Not that our predictions mean diddly, but that's not exactly a ringing endorsement over last year. Arrow pointing up, but not all that steep a climb. By the time we get to the finishing touches, the first touches will be in need of replacing. One of these years, we need to kill it in the draft, and I don't think that has happened yet.

Last year, a big excuse was first year Judge on a no pre-season covid year. Second year Judge with a pre-season ought to be worth a w or 2.

I'm a pessimist, so that's my excuse for not having much faith.
Just a rough estimate, but this thread has posters predicting  
Jimmy Googs : 9/2/2021 10:10 am : link
the NY Giants with a losing record this season at a 3:1 clip...


I'll say 5 or 6 wins  
widmerseyebrow : 9/2/2021 10:10 am : link
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At 7-6  
Jalapeno : 9/2/2021 10:52 am : link
in contention for the wild card, the Giants win four of their last four.

And still miss out because the Eagles tanked.
RE: At 7-6  
bw in dc : 9/2/2021 12:12 pm : link
In comment 15351126 Jalapeno said:
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in contention for the wild card, the Giants win four of their last four.

And still miss out because the Eagles tanked.


That's not impossible, actually.

Dallas, at Philly, at Chicago and WFT.

The game against WFT could be a playoff game...
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