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I Love Clams Casino : 8/31/2021 1:02 pm
Sorry but I have us going 0-10, with the first win against Philly and the final record of 4-13. We will pick 3rd in the draft.

for referral, here's the schedule -

Date Day Opponent Time Network
Sep 12 Sun Broncos 4:25 PM FOX
Sep 16 Thu at Washington 8:20 PM NFLN
Sep 26 Sun Falcons 1:00 PM FOX
Oct 3 Sun at Saints 1:00 PM FOX
Oct 10 Sun at Cowboys 4:25 PM* FOX
Oct 17 Sun Rams 1:00 PM* FOX
Oct 24 Sun Panthers 1:00 PM* FOX
Nov 1 Mon at Chiefs 8:15 PM ESPN
Nov 7 Sun Raiders 1:00 PM* CBS
Nov 22 Mon at Buccaneers 8:15 PM ESPN
Nov 28 Sun Eagles 1:00 PM* FOX
Dec 5 Sun at Dolphins 1:00 PM* FOX
Dec 12 Sun at Chargers 4:05 PM* FOX
Dec 19 Sun Cowboys 1:00 PM* FOX
Dec 26 Sun at Eagles 1:00 PM* FOX
Jan 2 Sun at Bears 1:00 PM* CBS
Jan 9 Sun Washington 1:00 PM* FOX
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arniefez : 8/31/2021 2:15 pm : link
I was optimistic coming into this season with 3 caveats. Jones plays better, the Giants have a decent to good OL and they stay healthy.

Jones - he hasn't played a game that counts yet. Let's Strat with that. The one time we saw him this year he was the exact same player he's been since he was drafted. He made a great throw, he turned the ball over inside in the 5 yard line. He got hit a lot. The ball came out late. He struggled or didn't have the time to scan the field. None of that had anything to do with a game plan. SSDY.

OL - The QB got hit a lot. The run blocking was not good on most plays. There is no depth as of now. There isn't a single above average OL on the roster again. It's hard to figure out if the OT's are worse than the OG's. Major draft capital has been spent to build this line and none of them is a plus player.

Injuries - The Giants gave BIG money to two skilled (WR & CB) FAs with injury histories. Both are already hurt neither is practicing now. Barkley hasn't taken a hit yet and who knows what level he'll get back to. Rudolph hasn't been hit yet and is now the starter because Engram is now injured and has always been a slow healer. The #1, #3 & #4 draft picks haven't practiced at all yet. The #2 pick is already being "managed" with "a leg injury" after dropping in the draft because of past knee issues. The starting LG who was a big question mark to begin with has a knee injury and didn't play with the starters.

So what I hoped could be a 10 win team if everything went right has had almost everything go wrong before game 1. Sadly my record predictions the past fews years have been pretty accurate. Please let me be wrong this year. Win 11 games. Why not us?
upnyg : 8/31/2021 2:16 pm : link
17-0. the OL clicks in game 1
8-9 or 9-8.  
Ira : 8/31/2021 2:17 pm : link
We're getting there, but aren't there yet.
Johnny5 : 8/31/2021 2:18 pm : link
Unless we have luck with injuries. If we stay relatively healthy I can see us with 10 wins.
averagejoe : 8/31/2021 2:19 pm : link
Preseason has given Giants very little to hope for since none of our FA's or draft picks actually play football.

If Thomas and Peart fail DJ will not improve and it will be last season all over again.

First thought was 6-11, but hoping for a little better (obviously).  
bceagle05 : 8/31/2021 2:23 pm : link
Bad OL, weak pass rush and mediocre QB is a lot to overcome.
Again for the morons on the board  
Carl in CT : 8/31/2021 2:24 pm : link
The Giants can trade for any QB in this league or draft a QB next year but until the OL is fixed (not saying it’s not time will tell) the QB will suck. This includes the best of them!!!
fivehead : 8/31/2021 2:26 pm : link
They beat Washington on Jan 9th to give us a glimmer of hope for next year, but lose valuable draft position.
Metnut : 8/31/2021 2:33 pm : link
Team competes and stays in games but too many mistakes by the OL and too many turnovers from the QB keep NYG from seriously making a run at the playoffs.

Jones shows enough flashes to have his defenders (particularly given the likely awful OL play) but doesn’t really prove to anyone that he’s a franchise QB.

FWIW, I think the Bears to 6-11ish, so Giants would get first round picks in the #7-#10 range and the #10-#14 range.
OntheRoad : 8/31/2021 2:33 pm : link
Second half of last season (5-3) is a better comparison point than the first half.
Did not like what I Saw overall on Sunday  
Sec 103 : 8/31/2021 2:37 pm : link
That said, no idea anything said now is just a SWAG...
Gut says Over 8 wins.
Brain says 5...
Hope to hell I'm wrong.
rsjem1979 : 8/31/2021 2:47 pm : link
But in an absolute nightmare scenario they win 3 of their last 4 and Getty & the gang is all back in 2022 because Mara sees progress.
Anyone who thinks that the 2021 Giants  
arniefez : 8/31/2021 2:47 pm : link
would have the same record with Aaron Rodgers or Pat Mahomes at QB instead of Daniel Jones is nuts. Those two guys are worth 4-5 extra wins maybe more by themselves.

There are probably about a dozen other QBs that would win 2 or 3 more games with this roster than Daniel Jones too. It's not just the OL. It's both. Go back and watch how the OL played last year in Seattle with a QB who knew how to run the game even though he couldn't throw the ball.
If we are going to war with the existing Offensive Tackles  
Jimmy Googs : 8/31/2021 2:49 pm : link
then its difficult to predict a winning record...
RE: 9-10 wins  
wahl35 : 8/31/2021 2:59 pm : link
In comment 15348326 giants#1 said:
5-1 in the division

I can see 4+ wins from this group:
at Saints
at Dolphins
at Chargers
at Bears

I like it. Even with 4-2 in division, 5 wins are do-able in those other games.
Doubledeuce22 : 8/31/2021 3:17 pm : link
4 wins max this year  
Br00klyn : 8/31/2021 3:22 pm : link
cant win many games if your OLine is trash, but at this point i guess were pretty much used to it
Zeke's Alibi : 8/31/2021 3:22 pm : link
Broncos - Loss
WFT - Loss
Falcons - Win
Saints - Loss
Cowboys - Win
Rams - Win (1 PM game at home)
Panthers - Win
Chiefs - Loss
Raiders - Win
Bucs - Loss
Eagles - Win
Dolphins - Loss
Chargers - Win
Cowboys - Win
Eagles - Win
Bears - Win
WFT - Win

11-6 Teams futures bright - I did score some of the toss ups as wins in the name of optimism (Rams/Chargers). Have us pegged at 9.5 wins on the total.

Mock me all you want, but this is a solid football team and the schedule sets up great going into the playoffs. May be the hottest team in football come January.
George : 8/31/2021 3:24 pm : link
NFC East champs thanks to a light schedule and a weak division. I think there's a good chance that DAL, WTF, and PHIL all have sub .500 seasons.

I cannot believe the gnashing of teeth over DJ's performance three days ago in his first live action in nine months - without having at his disposal four of his most important offensive weapons for the 2021 campaign and an offensive line that already looks radically different than it did against NE. I actually thought he played pretty damn well, save for one bad decision.

The defense will be good, but still needs that dominant pass rusher. An improved secondary will help in that department though.

OL is the big question mark, of course. I like the recent additions, but suspect it'll take about two regular season games for them to settle in and gel with everyone else. By Oct. 1 I think we'll see some pretty decent play from the whole team.
4 - 13  
thrunthrublue : 8/31/2021 3:25 pm : link
D.G. Let go before ‘22 draft…..journeyman albatross 8 demoted to cam Newton status……giants draft a real left tackle, qb under new leadership….the long suffering giants finally start winning again.
crackerjack465 : 8/31/2021 3:42 pm : link
The line is bad and I don't think Jones is the answer at QB.

Even with Barkley back, I don't see us scoring a lot of points. I can't see him playing in all 17 games with this line blocking for him.

Garrett is gone during the bye week and DG is fired during the offseason.
RE: RE: Nearly as important  
Zeke's Alibi : 8/31/2021 3:45 pm : link
In comment 15348339 Milton said:
In comment 15348310 JohnG in Albany said:


Predict the Bears record. *grin*

Other than two games against Detroit, the Bears have it rough with non-division games against the AFC North and NFC West (probably the two most competitive divisions in the NFL). It will be hard for them to finish worse than Houston, Detroit, and Jacksonville, but there's a good chance their pick will be in the top five or six, surely in the top ten. I'm gonna say 4-11 or 5-12 for them.

p.s.--And with some bad luck, they could finish with the worst record in football. But I'm not greedy, I'd be thrilled with a top three pick.

Unless Dalton and Fields got hurt they aren't going to compete with the worst teams of football. Top 5 is certainly possible though.
With all the investments...  
bw in dc : 8/31/2021 3:48 pm : link
on offense, especially to elevate Jones, this has to be a 10 win team - right? Double digit wins has to be on Mara's radar...

I just don't know where on the schedule these 10 wins are.

These specific road games are brutal - WFT, Saints, Chiefs, Tampa, Miami and LA Chargers. Talented teams on both sides of the ball. I mean, that's very likely 6 losses right there...
I agree with many here  
dlauster : 8/31/2021 3:58 pm : link
I just don't see anything past 8 wins.

Until this team proves they can play with consistency on offense, I think we are wishfully thinking.
Mendenhall : 8/31/2021 4:09 pm : link
Gettleman is fired. We are in the middle of a 20 yr down cycle trying to find a franchise QB.
Vinny from Danbury : 8/31/2021 4:11 pm : link
Danny Kanell : 8/31/2021 4:17 pm : link
We were 6-10 last year and I'm sorry, this team has more talent than the team that was on the field last year. It's also the QB's 2nd year in this offense (Which I admittedly don't like because I hate Garrett) and it's not the first year of a new program.

I also don't think our schedule is very difficult.

This feels like an above .500 season to me. I think we go 10-7. I have a lot of faith in the coaching staff (Outside of Garrett) and I think they have more talent to work with than they did last year, with a full year under their belt.

Just fucking beat Denver and we'll all feel so much better. I truly believe that. This team needs to win their first game in the worst way.
darren in pdx : 8/31/2021 4:21 pm : link
and just miss the Wild Card spot.
christian : 8/31/2021 4:22 pm : link
I think the defensive line will take a slight step back, and the back 8 a step forward.

Offensively, I think the line is going to be a disaster, while the skill positions are markedly improved.

+2 wins from last year 8-9.
We can't keep anybody healthy.  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 8/31/2021 4:23 pm : link

So unfortunately I see a 5-12 season.

If we could keep the starters healthy and our draft picks developed and our FA signings pan out? We could win the east. That would be amazing but I just don't see it with Garrett and Jones. Hope I'm wrong.
section125 : 8/31/2021 4:26 pm : link
They get the 1st and 2nd picks in 2022 for the new GM...
4-13. Offense continues to be bad and defense  
mikeinbloomfield : 8/31/2021 4:51 pm : link
BrettNYG10 : 8/31/2021 4:53 pm : link
I say 8-8-1. I see 6-9 wins. I'd be a little surprised but not stunned at double digit wins. I'd be pretty stunned by either 13 wins or 3. I see a roughly average football team and think the defense adds a floor to the team.
trueblueinpw : 8/31/2021 4:56 pm : link
Maybe 7-10
DanMetroMan : 8/31/2021 5:00 pm : link
go with 6-11
10 and 7  
islander1 : 8/31/2021 5:28 pm : link
this team is better than most think, if relatively healthy.
T in NJ : 8/31/2021 5:34 pm : link
To appease the Football Gods, don’t want to be smited for hubris.
Gruber : 8/31/2021 5:35 pm : link
I'm no expert, that's for sure.
6-11 or 7-10.
Defense ranks around 8th in league.
Offense ranks around 25th in league.
If the over all record is worse, and maybe even if it is as above, then Gettleman (hopefully) is gone.
I reckon injuries may well seriously impact our offensive production, along with the OL struggles.
I'm a big Joe Judge fan, but his comments earlier about our OLine being fine, reallly took me back. I just don't see it. I felt they made a strategic mistake not drafting an offensive lineman in the draft, I would have gone OL first round, WR second round.
And Daniel Jones has been just okay, which is pretty much how he was regarded before he was drafted. He's just okay, nothing more, and we need better than that, so I can see the Giants replacing him next season.
gidiefor : Mod : 8/31/2021 5:37 pm : link
and through the first round of the playoffs
BlueVinnie : 8/31/2021 5:37 pm : link
I think anywhere from 5-7 wins is the best we can expect.
Mike in Marin : 8/31/2021 6:14 pm : link
Barkley comeback player of the year.

Best defense in the NFL.

Andrew Thomas Orlando Pace's himself into the Pro Bowl.
jeff57 : 8/31/2021 6:21 pm : link
And I’m being optimistic
BigBlueBuff : 8/31/2021 6:40 pm : link
I just don't think they're any good. The offensive line is still a losing unit, Daniel Jones has shown more bad than good, and I still don't think the receivers can win their matchups and/or not be injured all of the time.

The defense looks okay and could be a good unit, but is the NFL set up to allow a defense to carry a team anymore?
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/31/2021 7:04 pm : link
10-7, though 9-8 seems more like the answer in my gut.
Spider43 : 8/31/2021 7:05 pm : link
Same-o, same-o.
8-9 or 9-8  
Ike#88 : 8/31/2021 7:07 pm : link
Its a tossup.
bestt : 8/31/2021 8:53 pm : link
I can't be an optimist after all this bad football...
Bill L : 8/31/2021 8:54 pm : link
Lose the nfc championship game by less than or equal to 7 points.
4-5 wins tops  
Joey in VA : 8/31/2021 9:08 pm : link
We filled holes with injury riddled players, have a worse OL and a bad QB.
RE: Anyone who thinks that the 2021 Giants  
Sean : 8/31/2021 9:21 pm : link
In comment 15348537 arniefez said:
would have the same record with Aaron Rodgers or Pat Mahomes at QB instead of Daniel Jones is nuts. Those two guys are worth 4-5 extra wins maybe more by themselves.

There are probably about a dozen other QBs that would win 2 or 3 more games with this roster than Daniel Jones too. It's not just the OL. It's both. Go back and watch how the OL played last year in Seattle with a QB who knew how to run the game even though he couldn't throw the ball.

This post should be pinned. OL looked better in the Cleveland game too last year.
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