It's a long season, odds are he'll be pressed into a starting role at some point this year and he'll have the chance to lock it down (or not) at that time. A lot of overreaction to the move on Twitter, it was kind of expected too.
LOL...glad most of you aren't the coaching staff...
Is that the depth chart is put together by the PR people right now based on what they are seeing in practice. It is not put together by the coaching staff. So while it might be instructive to some degree, it is not definitive.
Cam Brown needs a lot of time in the weight room. While he and Coughlin have made some plays, one's changed positions and the other's still at the bottom of the depth chart.
Solder has outplayed Peart, which is common for a grizzled veteran over a #3 pick. Peart and Thomas need a lot of reps and technique growth, pronto.
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Is that the depth chart is put together by the PR people right now based on what they are seeing in practice. It is not put together by the coaching staff. So while it might be instructive to some degree, it is not definitive.
Based on some of what I’ve seen on depth charts I wouldn’t doubt they give the job to some finance intern.
The good news is he's become a physical monster. But he seemed to have lost a fraction of a step as a result and repeatedly gave up the outside rush. He seems to have the quickness to adjust. He certainly has the size, strength, and arm length.
RE: wow, Peart couldn't nail down the starting position after two years
against him ever being in a NY Giant uniform again, no less the de facto starting OT. But here he is doing what he can to earn his money and help the team.
Hopefully Solder Part II is a better than the original, for Daniel Jones sake.
When we revisit this in 3 years time, Peart will be a starting tackle in this league, and Mekhi Becton will be on his way out of the league or will have missed significant time to injury.
That won't be the case for long, fortunately. Ojulari is immensely more talented than the guy who always looks like he's running through wet cement.
Ximines was terrible at setting the Edge. This is where Ojulari has an Edge, no pun intended! I think we’ll still see plenty of Ojulari rotated in. Just because depth charts reflect starters, we all know that can be misleading in a Joe Judge coached team.
they're going to rotate lineman in like last year, don't think whoever is listed on the depth chart really matters much to this coaching staff. Depends on the gameplan and situation.
They have a few other guys, too, who can get after it - DreMont Jones and Malik Reed. Donatell and Fangio are bright defensive minds who will absolutely test this OL.
Punting on Sunday will be a good result.
RE: RE: wow, Peart couldn't nail down the starting position after two years
...I think this is a good move, because really Peart has never played at a started level since he's been here (yet). Solder was good in NE.
Come on, PP. How many hundreds of comments, I'm willing to bet--and I don't claim to know for a fact that you were among them, but a good likelihood, I think--were there here during Peart's early season starts in '20 that he looked very good and that it was only C19 that derailed him from being the yearlong starter??
Be that as it may, what did dismay, was on a couple of PPro snaps, Peart looked like he was mechanistically attempting to execute technique that had been part of his instruction this camp, to wit: I believe one of the techniques for OL is, if the DL is rushing to his right, so to Peart's left, get your upper body between him and the pocket leading with your head/shoulders, but square, legs set/shuffling with the DL. In these instances, Peart stuck his head out as if out the driver's side car window as if he was parallel parking, but his head/eyes looking down at the ground. It was grotesque, and led to a sack. I like the guy, wish him well, but right now he looks all messed up, so this seems the right decision.
And to the poster above who made the allusion to Guy Whimper: I made that comp about a month ago, and, right now, it is an insult to GW. Most of us are quite frustrated with the lack of smooth progress, hell, any progress, across the entire OL, except we hope, for Gates and Hernandez.
i think brown is more athlete than football player. he's great for special teams but reading and reacting on defense is not his strong suit. he seems destined for bottom of roster and hoping to stick because of ST. which is perfectly fine for someone drafted where he was
If Rashawn Slater turns into a stud... and this OL duds YET AGAIN
have been listening/reading Judge's transcripts, he's going to rotate OL's again. Peart is going to play even if he doesn't start.
i believe they are going to rotate too. but the only reason you rotate is because you don't have someone who can play. no other team i have ever seen deliberately rotates OL. either joe judge is reinventing what teams do, or he knows he doesn't have anyone that can play and he's trying to play as many games as he can to mask a glaring hole which has been a glaring hole for what feels like 10 years.
RE: If Rashawn Slater turns into a stud... and this OL duds YET AGAIN
have been listening/reading Judge's transcripts, he's going to rotate OL's again. Peart is going to play even if he doesn't start.
i believe they are going to rotate too. but the only reason you rotate is because you don't have someone who can play. no other team i have ever seen deliberately rotates OL. either joe judge is reinventing what teams do, or he knows he doesn't have anyone that can play and he's trying to play as many games as he can to mask a glaring hole which has been a glaring hole for what feels like 10 years.
That's not my take at all.
My take is Peart isn't ready yet and they are going to develop him by giving him reps in spurts, like they did with good success last year.
have been listening/reading Judge's transcripts, he's going to rotate OL's again. Peart is going to play even if he doesn't start.
i believe they are going to rotate too. but the only reason you rotate is because you don't have someone who can play. no other team i have ever seen deliberately rotates OL. either joe judge is reinventing what teams do, or he knows he doesn't have anyone that can play and he's trying to play as many games as he can to mask a glaring hole which has been a glaring hole for what feels like 10 years.
That's not my take at all.
My take is Peart isn't ready yet and they are going to develop him by giving him reps in spurts, like they did with good success last year.
that's what practice and the preseason are for. i understand last season to a degree too as that was a complete rebuilding year. but this team just spend a ton of money to win now. OT's don't get gassed and need breathers. there is no reason to put a lesser player out on the field during meaningful snaps in these games
Joe Judge gave Matt Peart two series in the first preseason game, none in the second, and some (but not all) of the first half of the third preseason game.
This "preseason" you talk of amounted to about one half of football for Peart.
There is no contact in the OTAs.
There are only a handful of padded practices in the summer (maybe five).
Hopefully that's a positive indication about his knee.
And not for nothing, my guess is Peart will actually "win" it back in no time at all. Is say the over/under is during Game 2...
He must have looked really good in Monday's practice;)
Was just about to post that, consistent with what the staff did last year with the OL.
Solder has outplayed Peart, which is common for a grizzled veteran over a #3 pick. Peart and Thomas need a lot of reps and technique growth, pronto.
That won't be the case for long, fortunately. Ojulari is immensely more talented than the guy who always looks like he's running through wet cement.
as a pass blocker whether he starts or comes off the bench.
Based on some of what I’ve seen on depth charts I wouldn’t doubt they give the job to some finance intern.
The good news is he's become a physical monster. But he seemed to have lost a fraction of a step as a result and repeatedly gave up the outside rush. He seems to have the quickness to adjust. He certainly has the size, strength, and arm length.
Now this is a pretty ignorant comment -- Peart was a third round pick
Hopefully Solder Part II is a better than the original, for Daniel Jones sake.
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Ximines listed in front of Ojulari.
That won't be the case for long, fortunately. Ojulari is immensely more talented than the guy who always looks like he's running through wet cement.
Ximines was terrible at setting the Edge. This is where Ojulari has an Edge, no pun intended! I think we’ll still see plenty of Ojulari rotated in. Just because depth charts reflect starters, we all know that can be misleading in a Joe Judge coached team.
This is the way.
A floater until Robinson comes back.
They have a few other guys, too, who can get after it - DreMont Jones and Malik Reed. Donatell and Fangio are bright defensive minds who will absolutely test this OL.
Punting on Sunday will be a good result.
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and got beat out by someone out of football for a year, total failure of Pick
Now this is a pretty ignorant comment -- Peart was a third round pick
I could be wrong but I believe this was sarcasm...
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Be that as it may, what did dismay, was on a couple of PPro snaps, Peart looked like he was mechanistically attempting to execute technique that had been part of his instruction this camp, to wit: I believe one of the techniques for OL is, if the DL is rushing to his right, so to Peart's left, get your upper body between him and the pocket leading with your head/shoulders, but square, legs set/shuffling with the DL. In these instances, Peart stuck his head out as if out the driver's side car window as if he was parallel parking, but his head/eyes looking down at the ground. It was grotesque, and led to a sack. I like the guy, wish him well, but right now he looks all messed up, so this seems the right decision.
And to the poster above who made the allusion to Guy Whimper: I made that comp about a month ago, and, right now, it is an insult to GW. Most of us are quite frustrated with the lack of smooth progress, hell, any progress, across the entire OL, except we hope, for Gates and Hernandez.
i think brown is more athlete than football player. he's great for special teams but reading and reacting on defense is not his strong suit. he seems destined for bottom of roster and hoping to stick because of ST. which is perfectly fine for someone drafted where he was
i believe they are going to rotate too. but the only reason you rotate is because you don't have someone who can play. no other team i have ever seen deliberately rotates OL. either joe judge is reinventing what teams do, or he knows he doesn't have anyone that can play and he's trying to play as many games as he can to mask a glaring hole which has been a glaring hole for what feels like 10 years.
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have been listening/reading Judge's transcripts, he's going to rotate OL's again. Peart is going to play even if he doesn't start.
i believe they are going to rotate too. but the only reason you rotate is because you don't have someone who can play. no other team i have ever seen deliberately rotates OL. either joe judge is reinventing what teams do, or he knows he doesn't have anyone that can play and he's trying to play as many games as he can to mask a glaring hole which has been a glaring hole for what feels like 10 years.
That's not my take at all.
My take is Peart isn't ready yet and they are going to develop him by giving him reps in spurts, like they did with good success last year.
That was a supplemental pick well spent
I'd bet money he sucks again. It's disappointing Peart couldn't beat him out.
Amen. Apparently, Slater is living up to his billing thus far.
Meanwhile, Toney continues to be in the Giants Witness Protection Program.
Didn't they say it was a hamstring? He also had Covid, which kept Hernandez out about half a season.
He has been a full participant in practice since the end of the last pre season game.
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have been listening/reading Judge's transcripts, he's going to rotate OL's again. Peart is going to play even if he doesn't start.
i believe they are going to rotate too. but the only reason you rotate is because you don't have someone who can play. no other team i have ever seen deliberately rotates OL. either joe judge is reinventing what teams do, or he knows he doesn't have anyone that can play and he's trying to play as many games as he can to mask a glaring hole which has been a glaring hole for what feels like 10 years.
That's not my take at all.
My take is Peart isn't ready yet and they are going to develop him by giving him reps in spurts, like they did with good success last year.
that's what practice and the preseason are for. i understand last season to a degree too as that was a complete rebuilding year. but this team just spend a ton of money to win now. OT's don't get gassed and need breathers. there is no reason to put a lesser player out on the field during meaningful snaps in these games
This "preseason" you talk of amounted to about one half of football for Peart.
There is no contact in the OTAs.
There are only a handful of padded practices in the summer (maybe five).
Welcome to the new NFL.