vs Broncos W
@ WFT L
vs Falcons W
@ Saints L
@ Cowboys W
vs Rams L
vs Panthers W
@ Chiefs L
vs Raiders W
@ Bucs L
vs Eagles W
@ Dolphins W
@ Chargers L
vs Cowboys W
@ Eagles W
@ Bears W
vs WFT W
11-6 seems WAY to good to be true, but I dunno. I think they have a winnable schedule, and I think they are set up nicely inside the division.
vs Broncos W
@ WFT W
vs Falcons W
@ Saints W
@ Cowboys L
vs Rams L
vs Panthers W
@ Chiefs L
vs Raiders L
@ Bucs L
vs Eagles W
@ Dolphins L
@ Chargers L
vs Cowboys W
@ Eagles W
@ Bears W
vs WFT W
If DJ and a Corner go down and the O-line's a shitshow, I could see 5-12.
If the O-line holds up and we stay relatively healthy, I could see 11-6.
Let's split the difference: 8-9, final answer. But trending upwards :)
records based on these first two games in four days. It's such a tough way to start; and the NFL are daft pricks for subjecting ANY teams to this 4 day schedule in week 1. The NFLPA are beyond stupid at this point.
Nevertheless...
- If we go 0-2 after two games, then we are going 5-12.
- If we go 1-1 after two games, then we are going 9-8.
- If we go 2-0 after two games, then we are going 11-6.
With the added talent, experience and coaching, they take the kind of jump that is not unusual for improving teams throughout the league. Most teams don't suck forever (this is just an observation, that by itself means nothing. It's the added talent, experience, etc. that will translate to more wins).
As I said on another thread, a 4+ jump in wins has happened multiple times to the Giants, but it's almost never predicted by the so-called experts (and NEVER predicted by negative Giants fans!).
My heart wants to say 9-8, but I’ll live cautiously. I still don’t think the division is any good and I think the schedule has a LOT more opportunities for home wins than last year’s did. In fact, there’s only one home game that I would give them little to no chance of winning.
I thought they would win three games last season so I’m not one of these people who always think they’ll be good.
that with: significantly more talent at WR, RB, TE and CB, a more experienced OL and QB and a more normal offseason for a young team with what most of us believe is a very good coaching staff, that we're going to be WORSE than last year?
Allllllrightythen..
Why do some people even watch? Is it just a bad habit?
So will stick to it.
Be a hell of a lot of real close games, as usual
So I am sure their will be 3-4 games decided by a couple plays
Obviously, need to be fairly healthy ( in nfl terms)
vs Broncos W
@ WFT L
vs Falcons W
@ Saints L
@ Cowboys L
vs Rams L
vs Panthers W
@ Chiefs L
vs Raiders W
@ Bucs L
vs Eagles W
@ Dolphins L
@ Chargers L
vs Cowboys L
@ Eagles L
@ Bears W
vs WFT L (W if tanking)
NO could be a win if the game isn't played at the Super Dome.
agree that the 2 games in 5 days to start season is a killer and I think they lose both. But its a better roster than last year and so I can see a slightly better than 500 team thereafter.
I expect the O and D to make decent sized strides forward over last year's squads. The talent improved and it's a second year in the current systems.
This is definitely "Judge's Team", and I see a lot of buy-in by the players.
The NYFG are also waaayyyy overdue to be one of the good luck healthy teams. Well, this is more of a hope really.
Last thing: I look around, and it sure seems like one quarter of preseason football against the Pats is carrying a lot of bad weight with the NFL glitterati...
vs Broncos W
@ WFT L
vs Falcons W
@ Saints L
@ Cowboys L
vs Rams L
vs Panthers W
@ Chiefs L
vs Raiders W
@ Bucs W
vs Eagles W
@ Dolphins W
@ Chargers L
vs Cowboys W
@ Eagles L
@ Bears W
vs WFT W
that with: significantly more talent at WR, RB, TE and CB, a more experienced OL and QB and a more normal offseason for a young team with what most of us believe is a very good coaching staff, that we're going to be WORSE than last year?
Allllllrightythen..
Why do some people even watch? Is it just a bad habit?
This O line may be more experienced, and the QB may be more experienced, but in NO WAY does that make them better, and what has this coaching staff done to rate them very good? Overrated, and under achieving so far, and I even saw on another post that Judge was outstanding. Imagine how they would be rated if they actually had a winning team.
that with: significantly more talent at WR, RB, TE and CB, a more experienced OL and QB and a more normal offseason for a young team with what most of us believe is a very good coaching staff, that we're going to be WORSE than last year?
Allllllrightythen..
Why do some people even watch? Is it just a bad habit?
This O line may be more experienced, and the QB may be more experienced, but in NO WAY does that make them better, and what has this coaching staff done to rate them very good? Overrated, and under achieving so far, and I even saw on another post that Judge was outstanding. Imagine how they would be rated if they actually had a winning team.
So are you saying that they should of won more games than they did last year despite the roster and injuries if Judge was a good coach?
that with: significantly more talent at WR, RB, TE and CB, a more experienced OL and QB and a more normal offseason for a young team with what most of us believe is a very good coaching staff, that we're going to be WORSE than last year?
Allllllrightythen..
Why do some people even watch? Is it just a bad habit?
This O line may be more experienced, and the QB may be more experienced, but in NO WAY does that make them better, and what has this coaching staff done to rate them very good? Overrated, and under achieving so far, and I even saw on another post that Judge was outstanding. Imagine how they would be rated if they actually had a winning team.
So are you saying that they should of won more games than they did last year despite the roster and injuries if Judge was a good coach?
NO. What I am saying is what has this coaching staff done to say they are very good, or what has Judge done to say he is outstanding??
They start 1-7 and their season is effectively over yet again by Halloween. However, embattled Joe Judge circles the wagons and the team squeeks out 5 very ugly wins (3 against backup quarterbacks) in the last 9 games to the delight of ownership which then uses the modest late season success to justify retaining Gettleman and Jones for another season.
They start 1-7 and their season is effectively over yet again by Halloween. However, embattled Joe Judge circles the wagons and the team squeeks out 5 very ugly wins (3 against backup quarterbacks) in the last 9 games to the delight of ownership which then uses the modest late season success to justify retaining Gettleman and Jones for another season.
bingo, although I’ll go with 7-10.
In the last 4 seasons - since the playoff loss in Green Bay - the Giants have won a grand total of 3 games in the month of September. 3! Across 4 seasons.
I think they have a good season
vs Falcons
@ Dal
vs Rams
@ KC
@ TB
vs Chargers
@ WFT L
vs Falcons W
@ Saints L
@ Cowboys W
vs Rams L
vs Panthers W
@ Chiefs L
vs Raiders W
@ Bucs L
vs Eagles W
@ Dolphins W
@ Chargers L
vs Cowboys W
@ Eagles W
@ Bears W
vs WFT W
11-6 seems WAY to good to be true, but I dunno. I think they have a winnable schedule, and I think they are set up nicely inside the division.
@ WFT W
vs Falcons W
@ Saints W
@ Cowboys L
vs Rams L
vs Panthers W
@ Chiefs L
vs Raiders L
@ Bucs L
vs Eagles W
@ Dolphins L
@ Chargers L
vs Cowboys W
@ Eagles W
@ Bears W
vs WFT W
If the O-line holds up and we stay relatively healthy, I could see 11-6.
Let's split the difference: 8-9, final answer. But trending upwards :)
Mise en abyme
Nevertheless...
- If we go 0-2 after two games, then we are going 5-12.
- If we go 1-1 after two games, then we are going 9-8.
- If we go 2-0 after two games, then we are going 11-6.
Sorry but the O Line sucks.....again!
As I said on another thread, a 4+ jump in wins has happened multiple times to the Giants, but it's almost never predicted by the so-called experts (and NEVER predicted by negative Giants fans!).
I thought they would win three games last season so I’m not one of these people who always think they’ll be good.
So the new GM will have the 1st and 2nd picks in the draft..because the Bears suck too.
So the new GM will have the 1st and 2nd picks in the draft..because the Bears suck too.
Go ahead - predict 15-2. You know you want to...
Allllllrightythen..
Why do some people even watch? Is it just a bad habit?
Be a hell of a lot of real close games, as usual
So I am sure their will be 3-4 games decided by a couple plays
Obviously, need to be fairly healthy ( in nfl terms)
@ WFT L
vs Falcons W
@ Saints L
@ Cowboys L
vs Rams L
vs Panthers W
@ Chiefs L
vs Raiders W
@ Bucs L
vs Eagles W
@ Dolphins L
@ Chargers L
vs Cowboys L
@ Eagles L
@ Bears W
vs WFT L (W if tanking)
NO could be a win if the game isn't played at the Super Dome.
Of course, if he goes the OTHER way.....
11 loses.
Edging out Da Bears at 4-13
This is definitely "Judge's Team", and I see a lot of buy-in by the players.
The NYFG are also waaayyyy overdue to be one of the good luck healthy teams. Well, this is more of a hope really.
Last thing: I look around, and it sure seems like one quarter of preseason football against the Pats is carrying a lot of bad weight with the NFL glitterati...
@ WFT L
vs Falcons W
@ Saints L
@ Cowboys L
vs Rams L
vs Panthers W
@ Chiefs L
vs Raiders W
@ Bucs W
vs Eagles W
@ Dolphins W
@ Chargers L
vs Cowboys W
@ Eagles L
@ Bears W
vs WFT W
Allllllrightythen..
Why do some people even watch? Is it just a bad habit?
This O line may be more experienced, and the QB may be more experienced, but in NO WAY does that make them better, and what has this coaching staff done to rate them very good? Overrated, and under achieving so far, and I even saw on another post that Judge was outstanding. Imagine how they would be rated if they actually had a winning team.
Actually 9-8 is my prediction, but I hope for better.
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that with: significantly more talent at WR, RB, TE and CB, a more experienced OL and QB and a more normal offseason for a young team with what most of us believe is a very good coaching staff, that we're going to be WORSE than last year?
Allllllrightythen..
Why do some people even watch? Is it just a bad habit?
This O line may be more experienced, and the QB may be more experienced, but in NO WAY does that make them better, and what has this coaching staff done to rate them very good? Overrated, and under achieving so far, and I even saw on another post that Judge was outstanding. Imagine how they would be rated if they actually had a winning team.
So are you saying that they should of won more games than they did last year despite the roster and injuries if Judge was a good coach?
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In comment 15355073 Dr. D said:
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that with: significantly more talent at WR, RB, TE and CB, a more experienced OL and QB and a more normal offseason for a young team with what most of us believe is a very good coaching staff, that we're going to be WORSE than last year?
Allllllrightythen..
Why do some people even watch? Is it just a bad habit?
This O line may be more experienced, and the QB may be more experienced, but in NO WAY does that make them better, and what has this coaching staff done to rate them very good? Overrated, and under achieving so far, and I even saw on another post that Judge was outstanding. Imagine how they would be rated if they actually had a winning team.
So are you saying that they should of won more games than they did last year despite the roster and injuries if Judge was a good coach?
NO. What I am saying is what has this coaching staff done to say they are very good, or what has Judge done to say he is outstanding??
The D is that good.
Jones has a breakthrough season.
Barkley goes bananas.
Toney becomes a superstar.
The OL grows up in front of our eyes.
The D is that good.
Jones has a breakthrough season.
Barkley goes bananas.
Toney becomes a superstar.
The OL grows up in front of our eyes.
FANTASY ISLAND.
In the last 4 seasons - since the playoff loss in Green Bay - the Giants have won a grand total of 3 games in the month of September. 3! Across 4 seasons.