was really optimistic going into camp. Got really down lately with the injuries to our skill players and poor OL play but the hell with it, 10-7 it is. Winning football is back in East Rutherford!
They start 1-7 and their season is effectively over yet again by Halloween. However, embattled Joe Judge circles the wagons and the team squeeks out 5 very ugly wins (3 against backup quarterbacks) in the last 9 games to the delight of ownership which then uses the modest late season success to justify retaining Gettleman and Jones for another season.
They start 1-7 and their season is effectively over yet again by Halloween. However, embattled Joe Judge circles the wagons and the team squeeks out 5 very ugly wins (3 against backup quarterbacks) in the last 9 games to the delight of ownership which then uses the modest late season success to justify retaining Gettleman and Jones for another season.
I’m a firm believer that the offense struggled so badly in Weeks 1-4 last year because of a lack of overall familiarity and cohesion. New coach. New system, no offseason work together, new personnel, no reps. Recipe for disaster if you ask me. We started to see some cohesion on offense in the Week 5 loss to Dallas. DJ was injured week 12 vs Cincy. In my opinion, the team that we saw weeks 5-12 was indicative of the type of team we really were. Our record during that span was 4-3. Are we a better team now than we were then? You can make a strong argument that we are. Barkley, Golladay, Toney, Rudolph, and Jackson are all good additions. How much better are we? Who knows? Let’s say a game better than that 4-3 clip from last year. That projects to 10-4 over 14 games. So I think 11 or 12 wins is very possible for a 17 game season.
Bad offensive scheme, trash OL, bad QB.
Giants will start 1-4 possibly 0-5. They will struggle scoring points even on bad defenses. Barkley is just 1 guy.
Dave finally gets “retired” and Daniel Jones is traded for mid round picks. Judge and new GM (hopefully not Abrams) use our pick and the Bear pick to move up for a QB next April.
...which is not really a good result this deep into DG's tenure.
Hopefully I am wrong, but I think the OL woes that have plagued us all these years will continue in 2021.
Hope I'm wrong, but the OL is too shaky to predict anything better. I see Jones being hammered a lot. We still have trouble with stunts. On defense, we have a hard time maintaining contain around the edge, and still don't have a stud pass rusher.
I’m a firm believer that the offense struggled so badly in Weeks 1-4 last year because of a lack of overall familiarity and cohesion. New coach. New system, no offseason work together, new personnel, no reps. Recipe for disaster if you ask me. We started to see some cohesion on offense in the Week 5 loss to Dallas. DJ was injured week 12 vs Cincy. In my opinion, the team that we saw weeks 5-12 was indicative of the type of team we really were. Our record during that span was 4-3. Are we a better team now than we were then? You can make a strong argument that we are. Barkley, Golladay, Toney, Rudolph, and Jackson are all good additions. How much better are we? Who knows? Let’s say a game better than that 4-3 clip from last year. That projects to 10-4 over 14 games. So I think 11 or 12 wins is very possible for a 17 game season.
UticaMike, I like your reasoning and would add that I think week 17 they got back to what they were starting to look like before DJ got hurt (bc DJ was semi-healthy again).
The last game against dallas was only close bc of the total momentum killer of EE letting a "perfect pass" (per Aikman) go right through his hands, bounce of his helmet and make a easy landing into a dallas DB's hands. We were driving, up 20-9, when that happened. Dallas scored a TD on that drive and then a FG after another Giant drive stalled, partially due to another perfect pass sailing through EE's hands. A huge momentum swing with EE's name on it, resulted in dallas making the score 20-19.
The game could've been something like 30-12, if not for EE (he didn't do nearly enough positive to offset the bad).
DJ played well (didn't deserve to have an INT attached to him) as did the OL, overall. As Aikman noted, Dallas knew we wanted to run the ball to run out the clock and yet we were able to run the ball and run out the clock. It's been a while since we've been able to do that. And that was with Gallman (who almost gave it away), not Barkley.
With the added talent, EE should be more like a #4 or 5 target instead of #1. That by itself is reason to be optimistic! The future's bright.
But 15-2 if you count the moral victories they’ll rack up like last year.
Oh God. My favorite moral victory was the one 2 years ago where the Giants got blown out in New England. Somehow, losing by 3 or more touchdowns was good for morale boosting.
That's like absolutely the worst case scenario
Would love to be very wrong.
I can see this happening to the letter.
I’m a firm believer that the offense struggled so badly in Weeks 1-4 last year because of a lack of overall familiarity and cohesion. New coach. New system, no offseason work together, new personnel, no reps. Recipe for disaster if you ask me. We started to see some cohesion on offense in the Week 5 loss to Dallas. DJ was injured week 12 vs Cincy. In my opinion, the team that we saw weeks 5-12 was indicative of the type of team we really were. Our record during that span was 4-3. Are we a better team now than we were then? You can make a strong argument that we are. Barkley, Golladay, Toney, Rudolph, and Jackson are all good additions. How much better are we? Who knows? Let’s say a game better than that 4-3 clip from last year. That projects to 10-4 over 14 games. So I think 11 or 12 wins is very possible for a 17 game season.
Giants will start 1-4 possibly 0-5. They will struggle scoring points even on bad defenses. Barkley is just 1 guy.
Jones continues to turn the ball over and oline cant run or pass block 6-11..
Jones continues to turn the ball over and oline cant run or pass block 6-11..
Agree with this. And I'm hoping for the latter.
Hopefully I am wrong, but I think the OL woes that have plagued us all these years will continue in 2021.
I’m a firm believer that the offense struggled so badly in Weeks 1-4 last year because of a lack of overall familiarity and cohesion. New coach. New system, no offseason work together, new personnel, no reps. Recipe for disaster if you ask me. We started to see some cohesion on offense in the Week 5 loss to Dallas. DJ was injured week 12 vs Cincy. In my opinion, the team that we saw weeks 5-12 was indicative of the type of team we really were. Our record during that span was 4-3. Are we a better team now than we were then? You can make a strong argument that we are. Barkley, Golladay, Toney, Rudolph, and Jackson are all good additions. How much better are we? Who knows? Let’s say a game better than that 4-3 clip from last year. That projects to 10-4 over 14 games. So I think 11 or 12 wins is very possible for a 17 game season.
UticaMike, I like your reasoning and would add that I think week 17 they got back to what they were starting to look like before DJ got hurt (bc DJ was semi-healthy again).
The last game against dallas was only close bc of the total momentum killer of EE letting a "perfect pass" (per Aikman) go right through his hands, bounce of his helmet and make a easy landing into a dallas DB's hands. We were driving, up 20-9, when that happened. Dallas scored a TD on that drive and then a FG after another Giant drive stalled, partially due to another perfect pass sailing through EE's hands. A huge momentum swing with EE's name on it, resulted in dallas making the score 20-19.
The game could've been something like 30-12, if not for EE (he didn't do nearly enough positive to offset the bad).
DJ played well (didn't deserve to have an INT attached to him) as did the OL, overall. As Aikman noted, Dallas knew we wanted to run the ball to run out the clock and yet we were able to run the ball and run out the clock. It's been a while since we've been able to do that. And that was with Gallman (who almost gave it away), not Barkley.
With the added talent, EE should be more like a #4 or 5 target instead of #1. That by itself is reason to be optimistic! The future's bright.
Oh God. My favorite moral victory was the one 2 years ago where the Giants got blown out in New England. Somehow, losing by 3 or more touchdowns was good for morale boosting.
Lol.