Coming up on the 10th year anniversary since the Giants won a playoff game (also haha ATL, GB, SF, NE) — the Giants have had two, four year runs without a playoff birth.
As a fan what stretch was worse?
I think for me, the realization in 2013 that the championship era was done and the Giants sucked, was dismal. Worst feeling I’ve had after a regular season game was losing 38-0 to the Panthers week 3.
First 13? My first 8 years, we went to 6 title games, winning 1..I thought it would go on forever..Then, 1964-1980..☹️☹️
2013 was a brutal start, but they at least crawled back for what was a big division game hosting Dallas in November.
2014 was by far the worst season during this stretch, but 2015 was entertaining with just a lot of brutal losses. That team was 5-4. If the Giants started 5-4 during the 2017-2020 era we might as well throw a parade.
As for the current era, here are the starts:
2017: 1-7
2018: 1-7
2019: 2-6
2020: 1-7
Just awful.
1) The 2012 team should have won the damn division if not for that MNF loss in DC that still pisses me off.
2) We were still on a Super Bowl high between '12-'15.
3) Eli was here.
'17-'20...McAdoo, Eli benched for Geno Freaking Smith, DG, Shurmur...just a lot of ugliness.
Besides the losing, the incompetence has created a lot of hopelessness. The only shining light is Judge.
On the money, and these kids just don't get it.
But this 2017-2020 period has been simply brutal. Made even worse by the obvious and critical mistakes by Gettleman/FO in this period versus just injuries, bad luck, better NFCE competition...
Reality is that none of those sniffed how bad the team was in the late 60’s and 70’s.
When QB play is hard to watch - and the NFL IS A QB driven league - it's just impossible to enjoy the games. Let's be honest...
I don’t think anyone thinks this past decade compares to that. This has just been your garden variety really, really bad.
But that doesn’t make it ok, right?
Not sure why it needs to be split just because of a fluke 2016.
And as others have said; 1964 - 1980 is the worst run for this organization, by far.
The current 4 year skid has been a lot of crap play with no light at the end of the tunnel. Barkley was fun to watch during his rookie season, but watching Jones has been a chore for past 2 years.
The 12-15 team seemed far more rudderless.
Maybe it was the same thing you described -- the "thud" sound of knowing the 07-11 era was just straight up done.
also 2 other features of '12-15 run that were maddening:
1. the inexplicable bad injury luck (Nicks, Cruz, JPP, Phillips, Thomas, Wilson, even Beatty etc)
2. weird personnel decisions (especially letting Linval Joseph walk in '14 but resigning Beason)
we easily lost out on watching 5-10 pro bowl level seasons between those 2 groups of players, and with a good coach/qb that could have made a difference in some of those years. In '12 and '15 they actually had offenses ranked in the top 6. Watching Eli lead go ahead drives in the 4th Q only to watch the other team pull out a victory in the closing seconds on 60+ yard FGs was the worst. Especially in '15 knowing that a healthy 26 year old JPP would have likely been the difference in a lot of those games.
2017 - 2020 has been an abyss.
I thought by the end of 2017 it was clear Eli was done as a guy who can put make an offensive elite.
I also thought 2014 and 2015 was fun with Odell. I think you win with elite players and I thought Eli and Odell were both guys who could win championships.
I haven't had hope since going into 2017, really, which was quickly vanished. I also just don't have the emotional attachment to the 17-20 teams that I did for some of the players on the 12-15 ones.
17-20 was worse by a mile to me.
Clearly nothing touches 64-81
12-15 was awful because it happened so fast and did not need to happen. Allowing the offensive line to collapse was indefensible.(So it actually started 2010ish by not drafting replacement linemen)
17-20 just as dreadful as could possibly be. Picking head coaches without clear vision for building was devastating.
I cannot make up my mind which was worse 12-15 or 17-20.
The sad part is that I remember being stunned the Giants lost those Atlanta and Baltimore games the way they did. A 34-0 loss to Atlanta was not something in the Giants wheelhouse at the time. The Giants were still defending champions. Same with the 38-0 game to Carolina in 2013.
That one did make me go ... Huh? Maybe this team is as bad (or even worse) as I think they are. Like bottom 5 team in the league bad.
Clearly nothing touches 64-81
Exactly because the last 9 years are far worse. Eagle Super Bowl. F off boomers.
Gross. That's another fart bomb of a game I had completely forgotten about. I watched that bullshit in some Motel after Sandy.