Exposed during draft....rumor was over losing A.Robinson and probably others due to a small trade down that did not net them much.
An unusual consensus the Giants successfully maneuvered the draft...
Now, I expect many will complain about not drafting OL help....i will counter that the Giants could have used more veteran help....draft should be bpa.
Exposed during draft....rumor was over losing A.Robinson and probably others due to a small trade down that did not net them much.
An unusual consensus the Giants successfully maneuvered the draft...
Now, I expect many will complain about not drafting OL help....i will counter that the Giants could have used more veteran help....draft should be bpa.
The Giants don’t seem to get credit for the discipline they showed in this draft. They were looking for OL and we’re rumored to be ready to take Vera-Tucker before the trade. But even after getting an edge in Ojulari, and a CB in Robinson they took another edge in the 4th and another CB in the 6th. I’m sure there were OLs they could have taken on day three but it seems they stayed with the value picks as they saw them.
RE: RE: The giants don't need Analytics, we have DG
Exposed during draft....rumor was over losing A.Robinson and probably others due to a small trade down that did not net them much.
An unusual consensus the Giants successfully maneuvered the draft...
Now, I expect many will complain about not drafting OL help....i will counter that the Giants could have used more veteran help....draft should be bpa.
George in PA always bringing good points. Draft should be bpa is right.
Last year everyone was freaking out about OC. Turns out DG and JJ knew more than BBI and Gates is now a captain. And recently (after a couple FAs retired) we brought in 2 OL former high draft picks (via reasonable trades) with NFL experience to compete. Patience is a virgin, I mean virtue.
In football you have far fewer sampling and more variables. And every team has been using analytics far longer than it became "a thing".
Feel like this is an outdated opinion.
Sample size and variables compared to baseball is irrelevant.
Also, regardless of how long the NFL has been using analytics, analytics was revolutionized in the aughts through computer tracking of the ball and players.
In football you have far fewer sampling and more variables. And every team has been using analytics far longer than it became "a thing".
Feel like this is an outdated opinion.
Sample size and variables compared to baseball is irrelevant.
Also, regardless of how long the NFL has been using analytics, analytics was revolutionized in the aughts through computer tracking of the ball and players.
It is never going to be an outdated opinion that analytics is going to be more valuable in sports that have less variables, such as baseball when it is essentially (at least for offense and pitching) 9 individual efforts that make a whole. Grey area matters a lot in analytical analysis and there will never be a time in which football has less grey area than baseball. So, I would not say "variables" compared to baseball is irrelevant. What I would say, as I thought the Eagles analytical guy said in the article, is that analytics give you a more informed (360 degree) view of decision making and that is always improving and that analytics is always going to be part of a successful football organization.
In football you have far fewer sampling and more variables. And every team has been using analytics far longer than it became "a thing".
Feel like this is an outdated opinion.
Sample size and variables compared to baseball is irrelevant.
Also, regardless of how long the NFL has been using analytics, analytics was revolutionized in the aughts through computer tracking of the ball and players.
When it comes to analytics, sample size and variables are massively relevant. That's just the mathematics of it, not opinion. And yes, analytics continues to evolve, but the notion that it is something new that some teams are doing and others aren't is just factually incorrect.
It took one post for a thread about the Eagles analytic department turn into an anti-Gettleman thread.
The OP ended with "would like to see a similar article on the Giants use of analytical" so it really shouldn't be surprising that DG would get called out
As far as analytics goes, i compare it to card counting in blackjack. Yes on any given night at the blackjack table you can win a lot of money just playing basic strategy. In the long run however the house is going to take more of your money than you'll take of theirs.
Card counting doesn't mean you'll win every hand, or even end up ahead that day. But in the long run you'll beat the house. That's why successful counters will get backed off (told to play another game) or even trespassed.
RE: RE: RE: The giants don't need Analytics, we have DG
It took one post for a thread about the Eagles analytic department turn into an anti-Gettleman thread.
The OP ended with "would like to see a similar article on the Giants use of analytical" so it really shouldn't be surprising that DG would get called out
As far as analytics goes, i compare it to card counting in blackjack. Yes on any given night at the blackjack table you can win a lot of money just playing basic strategy. In the long run however the house is going to take more of your money than you'll take of theirs.
Card counting doesn't mean you'll win every hand, or even end up ahead that day. But in the long run you'll beat the house. That's why successful counters will get backed off (told to play another game) or even trespassed.
That's the case in everything statistical. The problem with your analogy is that counting cards is something that is much more specific, and the results easier to measure. Analytics is a very broad term that covers a huge many different tools, processes, techniques, and strategies. involving the use of data to enhance a teams football operations.
The other issue is that teams tend to be secretive about
what they're doing. None of us can audit what set of analytic tools Philly is using verses NYG or the Patriots for example and correlate any of it to actual successes. So this debate is reduced to statements close to "more analytics = good, less analytics = bad". That's a horribly vague generalization to make.
watched alot of video on players to determine if they were a fit for the team. By that rationale he is using his own analytic style and not necessarily all mathematical metrics like the Eagles. This style worked for him in Carolina..not so much here as of yet.
The 3-14 prediction I put forth was just my honest thoughts on this season. Sorry, I don't gamble. I am really down on this OL and also I have never seen a team switch it suddenly 'On" with its starters without them playing consistently together in preseason games to build chemistry on the field.
Is that JJ has more influence at this point on the use of analytics than DG does. JJ was brought in to build the football program in reflection of his experiences in NE. BB has always been secretive about that piece, but one would have to assume the influences are there and would surface in the culture JJ is building.
With the JJ hire. I'm not sure that has set in with the full fan base, just yet.
Honestly I was one of the fans that was just starting to think we needed an infusion of change and the originization had gotten too stodgy and staid. Then they go out anf hire a special teams coach (which I’ve been banging the drum for a while NFL wide) and I was super excited. Then the press conference and my tits were fucking jacked. Solving the HC puzzle is one of the key pieces and it’s clear he’s got it. Last year the only game I took issue with was Arizona, hated the offensive game plan against an undersized defense with a broken QB. Made no sense to me, but so far he’s delivered everything except the wins. Dey be coming.
BBI would be so much better if we can have betting
Some of these moronic tales would fucking die. Literally can’t put 5 bucks to put your money where your mouth is? That’s a take I don’t take seriously.
They were talking about the use of devices to track player movement and using to monitor load/work put on the players in practice. The assumption was that TC being old school would be reluctant, but was noted that contrary to that, when came down to it, TC was committed to winning and was surprisingly open to this. What he did share is that the challenges came in getting him to understand what they were doing. The devices measure the amount of "work" on a player and that term meant something very different to TC and they had a hell of a time getting him to understand what they were trying to do. I got a kick out of that story.
RE: RE: The giants don't need Analytics, we have DG
It took one post for a thread about the Eagles analytic department turn into an anti-Gettleman thread.
The OP ended with "would like to see a similar article on the Giants use of analytical" so it really shouldn't be surprising that DG would get called out
As far as analytics goes, i compare it to card counting in blackjack. Yes on any given night at the blackjack table you can win a lot of money just playing basic strategy. In the long run however the house is going to take more of your money than you'll take of theirs.
Card counting doesn't mean you'll win every hand, or even end up ahead that day. But in the long run you'll beat the house. That's why successful counters will get backed off (told to play another game) or even trespassed.
That's the case in everything statistical. The problem with your analogy is that counting cards is something that is much more specific, and the results easier to measure. Analytics is a very broad term that covers a huge many different tools, processes, techniques, and strategies. involving the use of data to enhance a teams football operations.
True, it's a bit oversimplified, and yeah the sports term analytics is a bit nebulous. Generally fans will see a manager/HC "use the analytics" and get a negative outcome and thus assume they don't work, but there's never going to be any strategy that nets a 100% positive outcome
With the JJ hire. I'm not sure that has set in with the full fan base, just yet.
Honestly I was one of the fans that was just starting to think we needed an infusion of change and the originization had gotten too stodgy and staid. Then they go out anf hire a special teams coach (which I’ve been banging the drum for a while NFL wide) and I was super excited. Then the press conference and my tits were fucking jacked. Solving the HC puzzle is one of the key pieces and it’s clear he’s got it. Last year the only game I took issue with was Arizona, hated the offensive game plan against an undersized defense with a broken QB. Made no sense to me, but so far he’s delivered everything except the wins. Dey be coming.
He played an injured QB that not only set him back, but the team as well. A great 1-3 finish to a great 6-10 season.
With the JJ hire. I'm not sure that has set in with the full fan base, just yet.
Honestly I was one of the fans that was just starting to think we needed an infusion of change and the originization had gotten too stodgy and staid. Then they go out anf hire a special teams coach (which I’ve been banging the drum for a while NFL wide) and I was super excited. Then the press conference and my tits were fucking jacked. Solving the HC puzzle is one of the key pieces and it’s clear he’s got it. Last year the only game I took issue with was Arizona, hated the offensive game plan against an undersized defense with a broken QB. Made no sense to me, but so far he’s delivered everything except the wins. Dey be coming.
He played an injured QB that not only set him back, but the team as well. A great 1-3 finish to a great 6-10 season.
He’s delivered everything, but the wins. Wow he’s delivered everything, but the most important thing. How low the bar is set by some.
the right man for the job and then just stuff like this:
"Solving the HC puzzle is one of the key pieces and it’s clear he’s got it."
We have not solved anything yet and we won't until the only barometer that counts--WINS--starts growing.
Some on here has said JJ is outstanding, and I’m all for giving him a chance, but pump the brakes on how good, and how much trust you have in him. No one knows if he will be a little Bill, or Joe Shit The Ragman.
RE: RE: The giants don't need Analytics, we have DG
With the JJ hire. I'm not sure that has set in with the full fan base, just yet.
Honestly I was one of the fans that was just starting to think we needed an infusion of change and the originization had gotten too stodgy and staid. Then they go out anf hire a special teams coach (which I’ve been banging the drum for a while NFL wide) and I was super excited. Then the press conference and my tits were fucking jacked. Solving the HC puzzle is one of the key pieces and it’s clear he’s got it. Last year the only game I took issue with was Arizona, hated the offensive game plan against an undersized defense with a broken QB. Made no sense to me, but so far he’s delivered everything except the wins. Dey be coming.
He played an injured QB that not only set him back, but the team as well. A great 1-3 finish to a great 6-10 season.
He’s delivered everything, but the wins. Wow he’s delivered everything, but the most important thing. How low the bar is set by some.
He was in the first year! Did you not see a well coached and disciplined team last year because I certainly did. Give the guy time, I thought old people were supposed to be patient. Jesus
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: We stepped outside our comfort zone
With the JJ hire. I'm not sure that has set in with the full fan base, just yet.
Honestly I was one of the fans that was just starting to think we needed an infusion of change and the originization had gotten too stodgy and staid. Then they go out anf hire a special teams coach (which I’ve been banging the drum for a while NFL wide) and I was super excited. Then the press conference and my tits were fucking jacked. Solving the HC puzzle is one of the key pieces and it’s clear he’s got it. Last year the only game I took issue with was Arizona, hated the offensive game plan against an undersized defense with a broken QB. Made no sense to me, but so far he’s delivered everything except the wins. Dey be coming.
He played an injured QB that not only set him back, but the team as well. A great 1-3 finish to a great 6-10 season.
He’s delivered everything, but the wins. Wow he’s delivered everything, but the most important thing. How low the bar is set by some.
He was in the first year! Did you not see a well coached and disciplined team last year because I certainly did. Give the guy time, I thought old people were supposed to be patient. Jesus
No patience when the team has had so many losing seasons in the last ten years, and 4 in a row. I’m all for giving Judge a chance, but he hasn’t done anything yet so say the team was well coached.
You don't rush the process because of 10 years and you don't slow down to smell the shitty roses either. You just try and win and now. Judge wasn't here in 2015. He wasn't here in 2019.
You don't rush the process because of 10 years and you don't slow down to smell the shitty roses either. You just try and win and now. Judge wasn't here in 2015. He wasn't here in 2019.
New team, in case anyone forgot.
And until proven different a losing team, and a losing coach.
RE: RE: the last ten years don't mean a thing anymore
You don't rush the process because of 10 years and you don't slow down to smell the shitty roses either. You just try and win and now. Judge wasn't here in 2015. He wasn't here in 2019.
New team, in case anyone forgot.
And until proven different a losing team, and a losing coach.
Good for you. Offer up anything else or is every post going to be the same?
When has a 6-10 team ever given you reason for hope the following year? Please enlighten me. I’ll answer this for you, never.
RE: RE: RE: the last ten years don't mean a thing anymore
You don't rush the process because of 10 years and you don't slow down to smell the shitty roses either. You just try and win and now. Judge wasn't here in 2015. He wasn't here in 2019.
New team, in case anyone forgot.
And until proven different a losing team, and a losing coach.
Good for you. Offer up anything else or is every post going to be the same?
When has a 6-10 team ever given you reason for hope the following year? Please enlighten me. I’ll answer this for you, never.
1967 when the Giants got Fran Tarkenton, and coming off a 1-12-1 season went 7-7.
It took one post for a thread about the Eagles analytic department turn into an anti-Gettleman thread.
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and he is the best evaluator of talent.
It took one post for a thread about the Eagles analytic department turn into an anti-Gettleman thread.
Right! Next it will be about Jones as well.
An unusual consensus the Giants successfully maneuvered the draft...
Now, I expect many will complain about not drafting OL help....i will counter that the Giants could have used more veteran help....draft should be bpa.
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and he is the best evaluator of talent.
It took one post for a thread about the Eagles analytic department turn into an anti-Gettleman thread.
We need at least one a day. Just to remind everyone how we go to where we are.
An unusual consensus the Giants successfully maneuvered the draft...
Now, I expect many will complain about not drafting OL help....i will counter that the Giants could have used more veteran help....draft should be bpa.
The Giants don’t seem to get credit for the discipline they showed in this draft. They were looking for OL and we’re rumored to be ready to take Vera-Tucker before the trade. But even after getting an edge in Ojulari, and a CB in Robinson they took another edge in the 4th and another CB in the 6th. I’m sure there were OLs they could have taken on day three but it seems they stayed with the value picks as they saw them.
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and he is the best evaluator of talent.
It took one post for a thread about the Eagles analytic department turn into an anti-Gettleman thread.
That's how some BBIers like Marty roll.
3-14 baby!
An unusual consensus the Giants successfully maneuvered the draft...
Now, I expect many will complain about not drafting OL help....i will counter that the Giants could have used more veteran help....draft should be bpa.
George in PA always bringing good points. Draft should be bpa is right.
Last year everyone was freaking out about OC. Turns out DG and JJ knew more than BBI and Gates is now a captain. And recently (after a couple FAs retired) we brought in 2 OL former high draft picks (via reasonable trades) with NFL experience to compete. Patience is a virgin, I mean virtue.
Open the article, immediately CTRL+A and CTRL+C, and paste into word.
Don't do this. It would be stealing content. You wouldn't want to read a stolen article.
also if you go to bing.com and google the article it comes up and you can read it through msn.com
You've got a couple of takers on your 3-14 prediction on the "Cakewalk" thread. You could make some easy money. Guess you didn't see that?
Feel like this is an outdated opinion.
Sample size and variables compared to baseball is irrelevant.
Also, regardless of how long the NFL has been using analytics, analytics was revolutionized in the aughts through computer tracking of the ball and players.
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In football you have far fewer sampling and more variables. And every team has been using analytics far longer than it became "a thing".
Feel like this is an outdated opinion.
Sample size and variables compared to baseball is irrelevant.
Also, regardless of how long the NFL has been using analytics, analytics was revolutionized in the aughts through computer tracking of the ball and players.
It is never going to be an outdated opinion that analytics is going to be more valuable in sports that have less variables, such as baseball when it is essentially (at least for offense and pitching) 9 individual efforts that make a whole. Grey area matters a lot in analytical analysis and there will never be a time in which football has less grey area than baseball. So, I would not say "variables" compared to baseball is irrelevant. What I would say, as I thought the Eagles analytical guy said in the article, is that analytics give you a more informed (360 degree) view of decision making and that is always improving and that analytics is always going to be part of a successful football organization.
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In football you have far fewer sampling and more variables. And every team has been using analytics far longer than it became "a thing".
Feel like this is an outdated opinion.
Sample size and variables compared to baseball is irrelevant.
Also, regardless of how long the NFL has been using analytics, analytics was revolutionized in the aughts through computer tracking of the ball and players.
Did analytics tell the Eagles to leapfrog big A DG to go after Smith.
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and he is the best evaluator of talent.
It took one post for a thread about the Eagles analytic department turn into an anti-Gettleman thread.
The OP ended with "would like to see a similar article on the Giants use of analytical" so it really shouldn't be surprising that DG would get called out
As far as analytics goes, i compare it to card counting in blackjack. Yes on any given night at the blackjack table you can win a lot of money just playing basic strategy. In the long run however the house is going to take more of your money than you'll take of theirs.
Card counting doesn't mean you'll win every hand, or even end up ahead that day. But in the long run you'll beat the house. That's why successful counters will get backed off (told to play another game) or even trespassed.
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and he is the best evaluator of talent.
It took one post for a thread about the Eagles analytic department turn into an anti-Gettleman thread.
The OP ended with "would like to see a similar article on the Giants use of analytical" so it really shouldn't be surprising that DG would get called out
As far as analytics goes, i compare it to card counting in blackjack. Yes on any given night at the blackjack table you can win a lot of money just playing basic strategy. In the long run however the house is going to take more of your money than you'll take of theirs.
Card counting doesn't mean you'll win every hand, or even end up ahead that day. But in the long run you'll beat the house. That's why successful counters will get backed off (told to play another game) or even trespassed.
That's the case in everything statistical. The problem with your analogy is that counting cards is something that is much more specific, and the results easier to measure. Analytics is a very broad term that covers a huge many different tools, processes, techniques, and strategies. involving the use of data to enhance a teams football operations.
The 3-14 prediction I put forth was just my honest thoughts on this season. Sorry, I don't gamble. I am really down on this OL and also I have never seen a team switch it suddenly 'On" with its starters without them playing consistently together in preseason games to build chemistry on the field.
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and he is the best evaluator of talent.
It took one post for a thread about the Eagles analytic department turn into an anti-Gettleman thread.
That's how some BBIers like Marty roll.
3-14 baby!
Annoying. Who posts that? You enjoying that prediction? Go buy a car.
Ill figure it out.
Honestly I was one of the fans that was just starting to think we needed an infusion of change and the originization had gotten too stodgy and staid. Then they go out anf hire a special teams coach (which I’ve been banging the drum for a while NFL wide) and I was super excited. Then the press conference and my tits were fucking jacked. Solving the HC puzzle is one of the key pieces and it’s clear he’s got it. Last year the only game I took issue with was Arizona, hated the offensive game plan against an undersized defense with a broken QB. Made no sense to me, but so far he’s delivered everything except the wins. Dey be coming.
I don't have a subscription and read it fine. Maybe it is only free to people that live in the Philadelphia area?
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and he is the best evaluator of talent.
It took one post for a thread about the Eagles analytic department turn into an anti-Gettleman thread.
LOL...It's beginning to make BBI discussions a waste of time
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In comment 15356674 MartyNJ1969 said:
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and he is the best evaluator of talent.
It took one post for a thread about the Eagles analytic department turn into an anti-Gettleman thread.
LOL...It's beginning to make BBI discussions a waste of time
You are just realizing that?🙈
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In comment 15356674 MartyNJ1969 said:
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and he is the best evaluator of talent.
It took one post for a thread about the Eagles analytic department turn into an anti-Gettleman thread.
The OP ended with "would like to see a similar article on the Giants use of analytical" so it really shouldn't be surprising that DG would get called out
As far as analytics goes, i compare it to card counting in blackjack. Yes on any given night at the blackjack table you can win a lot of money just playing basic strategy. In the long run however the house is going to take more of your money than you'll take of theirs.
Card counting doesn't mean you'll win every hand, or even end up ahead that day. But in the long run you'll beat the house. That's why successful counters will get backed off (told to play another game) or even trespassed.
That's the case in everything statistical. The problem with your analogy is that counting cards is something that is much more specific, and the results easier to measure. Analytics is a very broad term that covers a huge many different tools, processes, techniques, and strategies. involving the use of data to enhance a teams football operations.
True, it's a bit oversimplified, and yeah the sports term analytics is a bit nebulous. Generally fans will see a manager/HC "use the analytics" and get a negative outcome and thus assume they don't work, but there's never going to be any strategy that nets a 100% positive outcome
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With the JJ hire. I'm not sure that has set in with the full fan base, just yet.
Honestly I was one of the fans that was just starting to think we needed an infusion of change and the originization had gotten too stodgy and staid. Then they go out anf hire a special teams coach (which I’ve been banging the drum for a while NFL wide) and I was super excited. Then the press conference and my tits were fucking jacked. Solving the HC puzzle is one of the key pieces and it’s clear he’s got it. Last year the only game I took issue with was Arizona, hated the offensive game plan against an undersized defense with a broken QB. Made no sense to me, but so far he’s delivered everything except the wins. Dey be coming.
He played an injured QB that not only set him back, but the team as well. A great 1-3 finish to a great 6-10 season.
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With the JJ hire. I'm not sure that has set in with the full fan base, just yet.
Honestly I was one of the fans that was just starting to think we needed an infusion of change and the originization had gotten too stodgy and staid. Then they go out anf hire a special teams coach (which I’ve been banging the drum for a while NFL wide) and I was super excited. Then the press conference and my tits were fucking jacked. Solving the HC puzzle is one of the key pieces and it’s clear he’s got it. Last year the only game I took issue with was Arizona, hated the offensive game plan against an undersized defense with a broken QB. Made no sense to me, but so far he’s delivered everything except the wins. Dey be coming.
He played an injured QB that not only set him back, but the team as well. A great 1-3 finish to a great 6-10 season.
He’s delivered everything, but the wins. Wow he’s delivered everything, but the most important thing. How low the bar is set by some.
"Solving the HC puzzle is one of the key pieces and it’s clear he’s got it."
We have not solved anything yet and we won't until the only barometer that counts--WINS--starts growing.
"Solving the HC puzzle is one of the key pieces and it’s clear he’s got it."
We have not solved anything yet and we won't until the only barometer that counts--WINS--starts growing.
Some on here has said JJ is outstanding, and I’m all for giving him a chance, but pump the brakes on how good, and how much trust you have in him. No one knows if he will be a little Bill, or Joe Shit The Ragman.
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and he is the best evaluator of talent.
You've got a couple of takers on your 3-14 prediction on the "Cakewalk" thread. You could make some easy money. Guess you didn't see that?
He predicted 3-14?!
I know can’t happen here, but I d like some of that action.
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With the JJ hire. I'm not sure that has set in with the full fan base, just yet.
Honestly I was one of the fans that was just starting to think we needed an infusion of change and the originization had gotten too stodgy and staid. Then they go out anf hire a special teams coach (which I’ve been banging the drum for a while NFL wide) and I was super excited. Then the press conference and my tits were fucking jacked. Solving the HC puzzle is one of the key pieces and it’s clear he’s got it. Last year the only game I took issue with was Arizona, hated the offensive game plan against an undersized defense with a broken QB. Made no sense to me, but so far he’s delivered everything except the wins. Dey be coming.
He played an injured QB that not only set him back, but the team as well. A great 1-3 finish to a great 6-10 season.
He’s delivered everything, but the wins. Wow he’s delivered everything, but the most important thing. How low the bar is set by some.
He was in the first year! Did you not see a well coached and disciplined team last year because I certainly did. Give the guy time, I thought old people were supposed to be patient. Jesus
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With the JJ hire. I'm not sure that has set in with the full fan base, just yet.
Honestly I was one of the fans that was just starting to think we needed an infusion of change and the originization had gotten too stodgy and staid. Then they go out anf hire a special teams coach (which I’ve been banging the drum for a while NFL wide) and I was super excited. Then the press conference and my tits were fucking jacked. Solving the HC puzzle is one of the key pieces and it’s clear he’s got it. Last year the only game I took issue with was Arizona, hated the offensive game plan against an undersized defense with a broken QB. Made no sense to me, but so far he’s delivered everything except the wins. Dey be coming.
He played an injured QB that not only set him back, but the team as well. A great 1-3 finish to a great 6-10 season.
He’s delivered everything, but the wins. Wow he’s delivered everything, but the most important thing. How low the bar is set by some.
He was in the first year! Did you not see a well coached and disciplined team last year because I certainly did. Give the guy time, I thought old people were supposed to be patient. Jesus
No patience when the team has had so many losing seasons in the last ten years, and 4 in a row. I’m all for giving Judge a chance, but he hasn’t done anything yet so say the team was well coached.
You don't rush the process because of 10 years and you don't slow down to smell the shitty roses either. You just try and win and now. Judge wasn't here in 2015. He wasn't here in 2019.
New team, in case anyone forgot.
You don't rush the process because of 10 years and you don't slow down to smell the shitty roses either. You just try and win and now. Judge wasn't here in 2015. He wasn't here in 2019.
New team, in case anyone forgot.
And until proven different a losing team, and a losing coach.
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Judge lose these last 10 years here?
You don't rush the process because of 10 years and you don't slow down to smell the shitty roses either. You just try and win and now. Judge wasn't here in 2015. He wasn't here in 2019.
New team, in case anyone forgot.
And until proven different a losing team, and a losing coach.
Good for you. Offer up anything else or is every post going to be the same?
When has a 6-10 team ever given you reason for hope the following year? Please enlighten me. I’ll answer this for you, never.
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Judge lose these last 10 years here?
You don't rush the process because of 10 years and you don't slow down to smell the shitty roses either. You just try and win and now. Judge wasn't here in 2015. He wasn't here in 2019.
New team, in case anyone forgot.
And until proven different a losing team, and a losing coach.
Good for you. Offer up anything else or is every post going to be the same?
When has a 6-10 team ever given you reason for hope the following year? Please enlighten me. I’ll answer this for you, never.
1967 when the Giants got Fran Tarkenton, and coming off a 1-12-1 season went 7-7.