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NFT: Mets at Marlins Game 3. Stroman

ZGiants98 : 9/9/2021 7:07 pm
Mets Lineup

Francisco Lindor – SS
Pete Alonso – 1B
Javier Baez – 2B
J.D. Davis – 3B
Michael Conforto – RF
Kevin Pillar – CF
Dominic Smith – LF
James McCann – C
Marcus Stroman – RHP

Marlins Lineup

Miguel Rojas – SS
Jazz Chisholm – 2B
Bryan De La Cruz – LF
Jesus Sanchez – RF
Lewin Diaz – 1B
Sandy Leon – C
Isan Diaz – 3B
Magneuris Sierra – CF
Jesus Luzardo – LHP

Mets up early 1-0 off a wild pitch. deGrom apparently no longer talking to media. lol. LGM!
Lindor?  
dannysection 313 : 9/9/2021 7:15 pm : link
So bad...

Ball don't lie....He's going to end the year hitting below .230 and with an OPS below .700.

Also looks like he barely cares.

At least Baez appears to have a heart beat.

It's painful watching him...would be against the rules for the genius manager to hit him lower in the lineup?

Sorry, rant over....

Unbelievable slide by Baez  
KDavies : 9/9/2021 7:18 pm : link
I know a lot of Mets fans hate him, but I like the guy. Has power, speed, is a good base runner, and can play D. Don’t like the obp, but he does a lot of other things well
RE: Lindor?  
CGiants07 : 9/9/2021 7:20 pm : link
In comment 15357396 dannysection 313 said:
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So bad...

Ball don't lie....He's going to end the year hitting below .230 and with an OPS below .700.

Also looks like he barely cares.

At least Baez appears to have a heart beat.

It's painful watching him...would be against the rules for the genius manager to hit him lower in the lineup?

Sorry, rant over....


his numbers since may are right in line with his career numbers the last few years
Lindor has been at his career stats  
KDavies : 9/9/2021 7:21 pm : link
after his bad start. This has been well documented.
RE: Unbelievable slide by Baez  
Gmanfandan : 9/9/2021 7:25 pm : link
In comment 15357397 KDavies said:
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I know a lot of Mets fans hate him, but I like the guy. Has power, speed, is a good base runner, and can play D. Don’t like the obp, but he does a lot of other things well

I love Baez - I did not love him talking about booing the fans - but he has apologized for it.
El Mago is a pretty good moniker - the guy adds excitement on defense or the base paths and can hit for power. He may never hit 280-290 again but he'll hit 30 HRs for the rest of his career.
So tonight Rojas is hitting JDD clean-up  
BigBlueNH : 9/9/2021 7:29 pm : link
a night after keeping his ass on the bench while batting Mazeika in the game's most critical AB. The only reason not to have hit JDD last night was if he was really sick or really hurt. Guess it was neither.
Lindor?  
dannysection 313 : 9/9/2021 7:39 pm : link
Why do his numbers since May mean anything?

He's hitting .226 for the year...period.

Baez 2, Marlins 0  
KDavies : 9/9/2021 7:41 pm : link
yeah, Rojas has been perplexing with a lot of decisions. 1-11 in the last 12 1 run games says it all. If they were even 5-7 in those, they are tied for the division lead
Lindor's numbers since May mean something  
BigBlueNH : 9/9/2021 7:44 pm : link
to those of us who are hoping that his first 2 months at the plate were an aberration. Since he's gonna be here for a long time, that is pretty important. But there is no denying that his year as a whole has been a disappointment.
RE: Lindor?  
KDavies : 9/9/2021 7:45 pm : link
In comment 15357414 dannysection 313 said:
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Why do his numbers since May mean anything?

He's hitting .226 for the year...period.


Because a lot of players get off to slow starts with new teams, while changing leagues, or in NY. He did all of those. Overall, yes it is perfectly fair to say he’s had a disappointing season. He would tell you that. Reality is, he is a lot more the player he has been since the slow start. His career will tell you that.
RE: Lindor?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/9/2021 8:39 pm : link
In comment 15357414 dannysection 313 said:
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Why do his numbers since May mean anything?

He's hitting .226 for the year...period.


It means he had a bad April and May and played to his averages since. That's how looking at stats works.
Say what you want about Lindor's 2021 season,  
81_Great_Dane : 9/9/2021 9:16 pm : link
but I think "looks like he barely cares" is really unfair. To me he looks consistently enthusiastic and positive, and he recently drew two balks while on third base IIRC, so it's not like he's standing around doing the minimum. He's never lethargic or lazy as far as I can tell.

I think that trade has been a disappointment for both teams but as said above, he's gonna be in Queens a long time.
Can the Mets package  
nygfaninorlando : 9/9/2021 9:32 pm : link
Diaz and Familia for a new bullpen catcher or bat boy? Addition by subtraction the sooner those 2 are gone.
RE: Lindor?  
JayBinQueens : 9/9/2021 9:35 pm : link
In comment 15357414 dannysection 313 said:
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Why do his numbers since May mean anything?

He's hitting .226 for the year...period.


Why does critical thinking matter? I have an opinion and I want it to be correct
And yet another one run loss  
CooperDash : 9/9/2021 9:46 pm : link
Man, the Mets really take the cake on continually hiring shitty fucking managers. How this rube lasted an entire season is the real mystery.
Why did Rojas  
pjcas18 : 9/9/2021 9:52 pm : link
have Stroman hit for himself in the top of the 7th and then take him out in the bottom of the 7th after 1 batter gets on.

If he's got that short of a leash you don't have him bat for himself. He's not deGrom with the bat.

1-12 in the last 13 1-run games  
BigBlueNH : 9/9/2021 10:13 pm : link
while in a playoff race is about as bad as it gets. I don't see how Rojas survives. But not sure that will take care of our lack of clutch hitters. Outside of Pete, they've all disappointed.
Every time there's a game thread  
allstarjim : 9/10/2021 11:10 am : link
Mets lose. Just stop this.
RE: 1-12 in the last 13 1-run games  
Eric on Li : 9/10/2021 11:51 am : link
In comment 15357656 BigBlueNH said:
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while in a playoff race is about as bad as it gets. I don't see how Rojas survives. But not sure that will take care of our lack of clutch hitters. Outside of Pete, they've all disappointed.


there was more going on behind the scenes than we know at this point. the biggest miscalculation the team made in July was this one from July 27th:

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Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
One thing that can't be overstated is how much the Mets believe they have a special clubhouse chemistry. Team brass has been very cognizant of that chemistry when considering trade proposals that involve players on their major league roster.


and if you read through all the quotes from Rojas and Scott in this article, it's almost laughable given what ended up happening. the entire vibe of the team changed. maybe they put too much stock into Lindor's judgement adding Baez without considering the rest of the team's? Or maybe the problem started with something completely unrelated (remember Zack Scott had to have his call out press conference because players weren't taking rehab seriously). None of it makes the FO look good obviously.
Luis Rojas, Mets players appreciate front office considering team chemistry at deadline - ( New Window )
If you want some positive  
pjcas18 : 9/10/2021 1:51 pm : link
about the Mets this year, at least they didn't sign Bauer.

Jeff Passan
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Dodgers pitcher Trevor Bauer will miss the remainder of the 2021 season and the postseason after MLB and the MLBPA agreed to extend his administrative leave, a league official told ESPN. @jonheyman
reported earlier that Bauer was likely to be out for the rest of the year.
They wanted to sign him though.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/10/2021 2:08 pm : link
If Bauer had picked the right shade of blue he'd be a Met.
.  
pjcas18 : 9/10/2021 2:11 pm : link
Tim Britton
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Noah Syndergaard said he still expects to pitch in the majors this season, and that it would represent a reward for his extensive rehabilitation from Tommy John surgery. He recently threw a bullpen once out of quarantine; he'll throw another today.
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