More money matters: The #Giants converted $2.4 million of Leonard Williams’ salary into a bonus. It created $1.6M in cap space. They were tight against the cap entering this week.
They only have ONE player drafted by the team prior to '18. I don't know for sure, but my guess is we're the only team in the league in that situation (not totally, but largely due to the failure of prior GM and staff).
It's mathematically impossible to completely overhaul an NFL roster (ok, 52 out of 53) in that short a time, without a significant number of FA signings. If you assume 8 draft picks (including a comp, not including trades) per yr X 4 = 32. Even the most brilliant GM doesn't hit on nearly every pick. Don't know for sure, but would guess hitting on 3-4 per draft is pretty good. 3.5 x 4 = 14. That leaves roughly 39 players needed to overhaul (hopefully eventually improve) the roster via FA (including UDFAs).
A team like Cincy would do more bargain bin shopping in this situation. We're fortunate that the Giants have done some shopping in the high $ bin (Golladay, L. Williams, Martinez, Jackson, et al..). I'll let Abrams and co. worry about the cap.
Bottom line with resource allocation is winning. Winning always requires good top and middle shelf vets, and contribution from young players.
There’s a reason Gettleman and Abrams have historically liked having a buffer going into each season — if an interesting trade or need emerges. That’s one risk this year if they go in right up to the limit.
The goal isn’t winning the cap, it’s to have the flexibility to add what you need. And the results will always tell you if you were right.
The silliest view point in my view is taking a snap shot of what happened, and saying “see, they were able to make all the moves they wanted.” Especially when the team has failed so dramatically recently.
The team was in shambles prior to the current GM and then they made the mistake of trying to build around Eli. There were other bad moves but some of that was coach choices and the impact they may have had on personal moves. A year and a half ago nobody could have seen the cap dropping. Overall I think the team has moved forward over the last two years talent wise and I hope it translates to more wins this year in year 2 of the new coaching regime.
Bottom line with resource allocation is winning. Winning always requires good top and middle shelf vets, and contribution from young players.
There’s a reason Gettleman and Abrams have historically liked having a buffer going into each season — if an interesting trade or need emerges. That’s one risk this year if they go in right up to the limit.
The goal isn’t winning the cap, it’s to have the flexibility to add what you need. And the results will always tell you if you were right.
The silliest view point in my view is taking a snap shot of what happened, and saying “see, they were able to make all the moves they wanted.” Especially when the team has failed so dramatically recently.
The team was in shambles prior to the current GM and then they made the mistake of trying to build around Eli. There were other bad moves but some of that was coach choices and the impact they may have had on personal moves. A year and a half ago nobody could have seen the cap dropping. Overall I think the team has moved forward over the last two years talent wise and I hope it translates to more wins this year in year 2 of the new coaching regime.
Convenient paragraph to shift the blame for the last four years as best you can. At this point, it's on the guys that are still here so let's keep it real.
We all hope it translates to more wins this time...
The team was in shambles prior to the current GM and then they made the mistake of trying to build around Eli. There were other bad moves but some of that was coach choices and the impact they may have had on personal moves. A year and a half ago nobody could have seen the cap dropping. Overall I think the team has moved forward over the last two years talent wise and I hope it translates to more wins this year in year 2 of the new coaching regime.
I think it takes 3 years to evaluate a big overhaul, and I don’t get stuck on how/who/why. The failures were New York Giants failures. Coaching, draft picks, veteran acquisitions.
The big moves in 2018 all stunk. I’ll reserve judgement on the big 2020 moves until after next season. A lot can change between now and then, both good and bad.
You go into each season, and your wins and losses judge how well you put together your roster and staff. Until the Giants compete for a winning record , I’m not giving anyone much credit for anything.
It's mathematically impossible to completely overhaul an NFL roster (ok, 52 out of 53) in that short a time, without a significant number of FA signings. If you assume 8 draft picks (including a comp, not including trades) per yr X 4 = 32. Even the most brilliant GM doesn't hit on nearly every pick. Don't know for sure, but would guess hitting on 3-4 per draft is pretty good. 3.5 x 4 = 14. That leaves roughly 39 players needed to overhaul (hopefully eventually improve) the roster via FA (including UDFAs).
A team like Cincy would do more bargain bin shopping in this situation. We're fortunate that the Giants have done some shopping in the high $ bin (Golladay, L. Williams, Martinez, Jackson, et al..). I'll let Abrams and co. worry about the cap.
There’s a reason Gettleman and Abrams have historically liked having a buffer going into each season — if an interesting trade or need emerges. That’s one risk this year if they go in right up to the limit.
The goal isn’t winning the cap, it’s to have the flexibility to add what you need. And the results will always tell you if you were right.
The silliest view point in my view is taking a snap shot of what happened, and saying “see, they were able to make all the moves they wanted.” Especially when the team has failed so dramatically recently.
The team was in shambles prior to the current GM and then they made the mistake of trying to build around Eli. There were other bad moves but some of that was coach choices and the impact they may have had on personal moves. A year and a half ago nobody could have seen the cap dropping. Overall I think the team has moved forward over the last two years talent wise and I hope it translates to more wins this year in year 2 of the new coaching regime.
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Bottom line with resource allocation is winning. Winning always requires good top and middle shelf vets, and contribution from young players.
There’s a reason Gettleman and Abrams have historically liked having a buffer going into each season — if an interesting trade or need emerges. That’s one risk this year if they go in right up to the limit.
The goal isn’t winning the cap, it’s to have the flexibility to add what you need. And the results will always tell you if you were right.
The silliest view point in my view is taking a snap shot of what happened, and saying “see, they were able to make all the moves they wanted.” Especially when the team has failed so dramatically recently.
The team was in shambles prior to the current GM and then they made the mistake of trying to build around Eli. There were other bad moves but some of that was coach choices and the impact they may have had on personal moves. A year and a half ago nobody could have seen the cap dropping. Overall I think the team has moved forward over the last two years talent wise and I hope it translates to more wins this year in year 2 of the new coaching regime.
Convenient paragraph to shift the blame for the last four years as best you can. At this point, it's on the guys that are still here so let's keep it real.
We all hope it translates to more wins this time...
I think it takes 3 years to evaluate a big overhaul, and I don’t get stuck on how/who/why. The failures were New York Giants failures. Coaching, draft picks, veteran acquisitions.
The big moves in 2018 all stunk. I’ll reserve judgement on the big 2020 moves until after next season. A lot can change between now and then, both good and bad.
You go into each season, and your wins and losses judge how well you put together your roster and staff. Until the Giants compete for a winning record , I’m not giving anyone much credit for anything.