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Andrew Thomas - sick during pats preseason game

Elite12 : 9/10/2021 10:11 am
Article by Zack Rosenblatt today that says on the day of the pats preseason game Thomas "received multiple IVs due to dehydration, multiple people close to him said. He was sick all week in New England during joint practices. He started anyway — and struggled, allowing a sack on the game’s third play, and another on the next drive. Quarterback Daniel Jones was hit several times, and Thomas was often the culprit.

“You really have to know the reason why he came out looking sluggish,” said Kevin Johnson, Thomas’ mentor. “He could hardly breathe. One thing I told him was: ‘You’ve got guts, and you’ve got cajones, because most guys would fold.’ Most guys would say: ‘All right, I’m not playing.’”

That makes me feel better!


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I suggest everyone read  
bLiTz 2k : 9/10/2021 10:14 am : link
this entire article.
wow  
BleedBlue : 9/10/2021 10:14 am : link
makes some sense for sure.


THIS is a perfect example of fans making knee jerk reactions without really knowing much of anything. COuld we have known? No...but was it warranted to panic and say season over? also no
That's good to hear because  
M.S. : 9/10/2021 10:16 am : link

Andrew Thomas made alotta folks feel very sick that game.
I'll give Thomas and Jones this...  
Dnew15 : 9/10/2021 10:16 am : link
both guys are tremendous gamers.

I think that's why everyone (front office/coaches/players/even fans to an extent) want to see them succeed in the league.

The real question is - do they have the talent and skill to go along with their attitude and grit.
Not a surprise,  
Big Blue '56 : 9/10/2021 10:16 am : link
but when you’re “at this” as long as a bunch of us are, you put very little stock in preseason performances or even the first few games of the regular season, albeit winning is nice..😎
That's  
Professor Falken : 9/10/2021 10:17 am : link
a good way to get your QB killed.
Then why did Giants PR put him out there for postgame  
FranknWeezer : 9/10/2021 10:17 am : link
interviews if he was so ill?
RE: I'll give Thomas and Jones this...  
Big Blue '56 : 9/10/2021 10:18 am : link
In comment 15358219 Dnew15 said:
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both guys are tremendous gamers.

I think that's why everyone (front office/coaches/players/even fans to an extent) want to see them succeed in the league.

The real question is - do they have the talent and skill to go along with their attitude and grit.


Well as many of us have said re Jones, 25 games played if far from definitive, one way or the other and that THIS season should tell a bunch of us what we might have here moving forward (if they move forward)..
RE: Not a surprise,  
bLiTz 2k : 9/10/2021 10:19 am : link
In comment 15358220 Big Blue '56 said:
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but when you’re “at this” as long as a bunch of us are, you put very little stock in preseason performances or even the first few games of the regular season, albeit winning is nice..😎


Not sure if sarcasm, but this place is overreaction city.
if far=is far  
Big Blue '56 : 9/10/2021 10:19 am : link
.
Can't Be  
ZogZerg : 9/10/2021 10:20 am : link
Thomas Sucks and can't play LT.
It's impossible for players to improve from their Rookie year...


.... BBI
RE: Then why did Giants PR put him out there for postgame  
bLiTz 2k : 9/10/2021 10:20 am : link
In comment 15358222 FranknWeezer said:
[quote] interviews if he was so ill? [/quote

I believe the media requests the players to interview.
This should be Pinned...  
BigBlueJ : 9/10/2021 10:21 am : link
Cause it is BBI after all.
He didn’t look healthy at all to me.  
JoeyBigBlue : 9/10/2021 10:21 am : link
I’ll trust the excellent camp he was having over one game everyday of the week.
RE: He didn’t look healthy at all to me.  
Big Blue '56 : 9/10/2021 10:23 am : link
In comment 15358232 JoeyBigBlue said:
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I’ll trust the excellent camp he was having over one game everyday of the week.


I prefer the subjective and informed assessments of his preseason play..😎
RE: That's good to hear because  
bLiTz 2k : 9/10/2021 10:24 am : link
In comment 15358218 M.S. said:
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Andrew Thomas made alotta folks feel very sick that game.


More people are sick of the whining on this board above all else.
Makes sense if true.  
Everyone Relax : 9/10/2021 10:24 am : link
Let's just see a good game from him on Sunday so we dont have to hear excuses from his mentor anymore.
RE: RE: That's good to hear because  
Big Blue '56 : 9/10/2021 10:26 am : link
In comment 15358239 bLiTz 2k said:
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Andrew Thomas made alotta folks feel very sick that game.



More people are sick of the whining on this board above all else.


Yup and why I’ll step away for most if not all of the regular season meltdowns..
I'm not saying he didn't have some sort of ailment  
csb : 9/10/2021 10:26 am : link
But with COVID precautions if he had cold/flu-like symptoms and tested negative, wouldn't they still hold him out? I feel like anyone with a sniffle wouldn't be allowed to play in a preseason game. Maybe I'm wrong
RE: That's  
RCPhoenix : 9/10/2021 10:29 am : link
In comment 15358221 Professor Falken said:
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a good way to get your QB killed.


I've never understood the rationale for playing someone who is at, perhaps, no more than 50% effectiveness due to injury or illness. Isn't it better for the team to have someone who can perform adequately? Especially when it's the person protecting the starting QB's blind side.

I know the NFL has long had this macho thing about playing through injuries and illness, but there is a point at which it affects performance to the point where another player should be used.
I wish nj.com didn't have a paywall  
D HOS : 9/10/2021 10:36 am : link
Ads are displaying, but they also require payment.

I'll pay for the Athetic. NJ.com, not so much.
He could barely breath  
Gregorio : 9/10/2021 10:36 am : link
and was sick all week, why was he in the field? There’s a point where gutting it out becomes foolish.
RE: RE: That's  
Big Blue '56 : 9/10/2021 10:37 am : link
In comment 15358252 RCPhoenix said:
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a good way to get your QB killed.



I've never understood the rationale for playing someone who is at, perhaps, no more than 50% effectiveness due to injury or illness. Isn't it better for the team to have someone who can perform adequately? Especially when it's the person protecting the starting QB's blind side.

I know the NFL has long had this macho thing about playing through injuries and illness, but there is a point at which it affects performance to the point where another player should be used.


Or, he’s a warrior, wanted to give it a go to accrue more snaps in a limited pre-season, felt better with IVs and played as long as he could. Who could forget Jordan’s performance against the Knicks with a high temp and flu symptoms? Yes, it was not pre-season, but it says a lot, at least to me..
RE: I wish nj.com didn't have a paywall  
Big Blue '56 : 9/10/2021 10:39 am : link
In comment 15358265 D HOS said:
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Ads are displaying, but they also require payment.

I'll pay for the Athetic. NJ.com, not so much.


On my iPad, when that stuff shows, I click on reader’s view and the article usually comes in en toto. Sometimes, it doesn’t but most of the time for me.
Was Kevin Johnson The same guy  
SirLoinOfBeef : 9/10/2021 10:40 am : link
from last year that was explaining why Thomas was struggling early on? I remember something about how the Giants were changing his technique and it hurt his blocking. Or was it his old OL coach at Georgia?

RE: I wish nj.com didn't have a paywall  
Elite12 : 9/10/2021 10:40 am : link
In comment 15358265 D HOS said:
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Ads are displaying, but they also require payment.

I'll pay for the Athetic. NJ.com, not so much.


Use "reader view" on safari/iphone.
RE: RE: RE: That's  
Go Terps : 9/10/2021 10:42 am : link
In comment 15358269 Big Blue '56 said:
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a good way to get your QB killed.



I've never understood the rationale for playing someone who is at, perhaps, no more than 50% effectiveness due to injury or illness. Isn't it better for the team to have someone who can perform adequately? Especially when it's the person protecting the starting QB's blind side.

I know the NFL has long had this macho thing about playing through injuries and illness, but there is a point at which it affects performance to the point where another player should be used.



Or, he’s a warrior, wanted to give it a go to accrue more snaps in a limited pre-season, felt better with IVs and played as long as he could. Who could forget Jordan’s performance against the Knicks with a high temp and flu symptoms? Yes, it was not pre-season, but it says a lot, at least to me..


That was against the Jazz.

If you're on the field, you're on the field. Playing as shitty as Thomas did could have gotten Jones or someone else hurt. Being sick is no excuse.
gracias  
D HOS : 9/10/2021 10:42 am : link
y danke schon
I'm feeling sick just...  
D HOS : 9/10/2021 10:44 am : link
... trying to imagine playing offensive line while feeling sick.
Sounds absurd to play him then  
Essex : 9/10/2021 10:45 am : link
in a preseason game if you want your QB alive for the regular season and during a pandemic. Anyway, all of this speculation will end in the next month. Andrew Thomas will have the opportunity to show he is the player that was developing the second half of last year or that the player from the first ten games is his real ability. I am rooting for him in every way possible.
If true, that's good to hear...  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/10/2021 10:47 am : link
...but I don't fault Giants fans for being worried after watching him against the Pats. He was that bad, and in ways that he didn't show last season.

Now what's Peart's excuse?
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Big Blue '56 : 9/10/2021 10:47 am : link
In comment 15358279 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15358221 Professor Falken said:


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a good way to get your QB killed.



I've never understood the rationale for playing someone who is at, perhaps, no more than 50% effectiveness due to injury or illness. Isn't it better for the team to have someone who can perform adequately? Especially when it's the person protecting the starting QB's blind side.

I know the NFL has long had this macho thing about playing through injuries and illness, but there is a point at which it affects performance to the point where another player should be used.



Or, he’s a warrior, wanted to give it a go to accrue more snaps in a limited pre-season, felt better with IVs and played as long as he could. Who could forget Jordan’s performance against the Knicks with a high temp and flu symptoms? Yes, it was not pre-season, but it says a lot, at least to me..



That was against the Jazz.

If you're on the field, you're on the field. Playing as shitty as Thomas did could have gotten Jones or someone else hurt. Being sick is no excuse.


Sorry, meant the Jazz (I really did).
Why would someone that sick be playing in an exhibition  
Greg from LI : 9/10/2021 10:49 am : link
That just seems weird to me
I am assuming this is true  
D HOS : 9/10/2021 10:51 am : link
Therefore, consider not a peep from him about it in his interview. Me... I'm not feeling well and someone ask me why I didn't do this or why I did that less good than normal and I'm immediately over-explaining how I'm not feeling well.

Thomas? Stone cold on that front. Accepted all the responsibility (blame). Good job!
RE: He could barely breath  
barens : 9/10/2021 10:52 am : link
In comment 15358266 Gregorio said:
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and was sick all week, why was he in the field? There’s a point where gutting it out becomes foolish.


Yup, almost got Jones killed.
IF this is TRUE  
MotownGIANTS : 9/10/2021 10:55 am : link
then the GM, COACHES and MEDICAL staff should be ashamed. Why risk all the potential injuries? He gutted out joint practices .... the risk is and was not worth the reward.
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MotownGIANTS : 9/10/2021 10:55 am : link
In comment 15358252 RCPhoenix said:
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In comment 15358221 Professor Falken said:


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a good way to get your QB killed.



I've never understood the rationale for playing someone who is at, perhaps, no more than 50% effectiveness due to injury or illness. Isn't it better for the team to have someone who can perform adequately? Especially when it's the person protecting the starting QB's blind side.

I know the NFL has long had this macho thing about playing through injuries and illness, but there is a point at which it affects performance to the point where another player should be used.


Exactly ...
Can't read the article.  
SirLoinOfBeef : 9/10/2021 10:56 am : link
Is anyone form the Giants confirming this story?
So you put a guy who is ridiculously sick  
Mike from Ohio : 9/10/2021 10:58 am : link
out there to get run over and around and risked getting your QB blindsided in a game that means nothing?

I doubt this is true, and if it is Judge has some explaining to do, because that is reckless and stupid.
RE: Why would someone that sick be playing in an exhibition  
bradshaw44 : 9/10/2021 10:59 am : link
In comment 15358302 Greg from LI said:
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That just seems weird to me


This.
RE: Why would someone that sick be playing in an exhibition  
GNewGiants : 9/10/2021 11:04 am : link
In comment 15358302 Greg from LI said:
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That just seems weird to me


He probably had the case of the shits and his trainer/agent are blowing it up to be something else.

Here's what I know. Sunday is the real deal. If he can keep Chubb and Miller away from Jones - I dont give a shit about a preseason game. If he struggles, it will be a long year.
RE: Not a surprise,  
jvm52106 : 9/10/2021 11:04 am : link
In comment 15358220 Big Blue '56 said:
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but when you’re “at this” as long as a bunch of us are, you put very little stock in preseason performances or even the first few games of the regular season, albeit winning is nice..😎


Very true. I am more concerned that in that article it mentions his ankle injury from last year and in the game something clearly was wrong (sick or not) with his ankle as one minute it was not wrapped and then next it was heavily wrapped. Might be nothing and hopefully just sick but it didn't appear that way after re-watching that game.
Gettleman picked him, so he must be a talentless, gutless dog, right?  
Victor in CT : 9/10/2021 11:05 am : link
good for him. he needed the reps and toughed it out.
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Big Blue '56 : 9/10/2021 11:15 am : link
In comment 15358322 GNewGiants said:
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That just seems weird to me



He probably had the case of the shits and his trainer/agent are blowing it up to be something else.

Here's what I know. Sunday is the real deal. If he can keep Chubb and Miller away from Jones - I dont give a shit about a preseason game. If he struggles, it will be a long year.


If he struggles in this game it will be a long year? This is one of the reasons why it is healthier to take most of the regular season off from BBI..
Healthier for me,  
Big Blue '56 : 9/10/2021 11:16 am : link
that is
so our QB taking hits is a good idea  
ATL_Giants : 9/10/2021 11:18 am : link
because playing when you can't play well = cajones?
RE: Why would someone that sick be playing in an exhibition  
ATL_Giants : 9/10/2021 11:19 am : link
In comment 15358302 Greg from LI said:
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That just seems weird to me
Because having a healthy QB isn't important.
RE: RE: RE: Why would someone that sick be playing in an exhibition  
GNewGiants : 9/10/2021 11:20 am : link
In comment 15358334 Big Blue '56 said:
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That just seems weird to me



He probably had the case of the shits and his trainer/agent are blowing it up to be something else.

Here's what I know. Sunday is the real deal. If he can keep Chubb and Miller away from Jones - I dont give a shit about a preseason game. If he struggles, it will be a long year.



If he struggles in this game it will be a long year? This is one of the reasons why it is healthier to take most of the regular season off from BBI..


Yes, if Thomas doesnt play well - its gonna be a long year and it starts with game 1. I am not saying he needs to be Joe Thomas - but he needs to give us something to believe in.
i think folks are taking "he can hardly breath" comment  
UConn4523 : 9/10/2021 11:20 am : link
a bit too literally. You either believe that he was sick (sounds like a flu of sorts) or you don't. Coupled with the ankle and I'm hoping we chalk it up to a bad week for Thomas.
Results. That’s what the average Giant fan wants  
JohnB : 9/10/2021 11:23 am : link
And so far, Thomas has been lacking. Yes there are excuses but they only go so far.

Results please
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