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Dak Prescott's Ability to Throw +15 yards

Eli2020 : 9/10/2021 11:28 am
Before I digress, Dak played an excellent game. From his ball placement to his ability to stand in the pocket while getting pummeled he looked excellent.

However, is it just me or did it look like Dak couldn't throw with any accuracy or any zip past the 15-20?

Again, maybe it was just the wine talking. But by the end of the first quarter, I had zero confidence the man could stretch the field.

Those near-missed interceptions and inability to give his kicker better field positioning in the clutch seemed to confirm that for me.
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RE: He looked terrific  
Johnny5 : 9/10/2021 1:11 pm : link
In comment 15358453 JonC said:
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all his hard work is paying off. He looked great a year ago too, before the ankle. He's developing into a real professional NFL QB, unfortunately.

His long arm did look a bit odd last night, at the same time. Perhaps it's the lat injury. Did he have a shoulder too? I forget.

I didn't even know about the lat, I thought it was a shoulder "strain" like he threw out his arm or something. And that brought on whispers of rotator cuff. I could be misremembering though. I thought he looked outstanding last night, against a damn good defense... it was very discouraging... lol
RE: You Dak haters make me laugh  
NINEster : 9/10/2021 1:13 pm : link
In comment 15358437 JerseyCityJoe said:
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Dak puts over 400 yards and 3 Td's against the world champs in their house on opening day. This with no running game and not a snap all preseason. So the story we want to tell ourselves is what, is arm is weak? WTF


LOL
RE: RE: RE: he's the definition of overrated. If he played for any other team  
dabru : 9/10/2021 1:15 pm : link
In comment 15358401 rsjem1979 said:
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he be just another QB on just another team.

In fact the Cowboys would be just another team. Swap them with the Texans and who would care about them?



Only on BBI does a QB who completes 72% of his passes for 400 yards and 3 TDs against one of the top defenses in the league - with none of it being 'garbage time' - get called overrated.

If Daniel Jones played that game last night, this site would be littered with people putting him in the MVP conversation.



It really is ridiculous isn't it? Daniel Jones doesn't have five NFL games as good as Dak's last night and people are shitting on Prescott left and right after his first start after 11 months and a gruesome injury.


Jones has this at least: First rookie to have three games with four touchdown passes and no interceptions.

We don't know what Jones would look like on the offense. It's hard to compare the two head to head if you can't let them both play on the others' team.

Having said that, Dak looked the part last night.
RE: He has an outstanding OL, 3 elite receivers, and an elite RB  
islander1 : 9/10/2021 1:34 pm : link
In comment 15358384 rnargi said:
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And he has guts. He's a good QB in a great situation.


Exactly this.
I don't understand the Dak haters. But then again I don't get the  
Blue21 : 9/10/2021 1:38 pm : link
Jones haters. After this year for Jones? Ok maybe a different story. But I'm on the can we wait and see first. As far as Dak he can play QB on my team any day.
Questioning if Dak is a very good QB at this point  
Jimmy Googs : 9/10/2021 1:59 pm : link
and whether he played really well last night is an IQ Test for the members of this board today.

Early grading shows there will need to be curve to get posters through this class...
RE: RE: RE: RE: he's the definition of overrated. If he played for any other team  
rsjem1979 : 9/10/2021 2:01 pm : link
In comment 15358516 dabru said:
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Jones has this at least: First rookie to have three games with four touchdown passes and no interceptions.



Those games were so fantastic they've made people forget about the other 23 he's played.
All I can say is that  
Gruber : 9/10/2021 2:09 pm : link
if Daniel Jones plays like Dak Presoctt did last night, I'd be more than happy.
RE: Questioning if Dak is a very good QB at this point  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/10/2021 2:09 pm : link
In comment 15358600 Jimmy Googs said:
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and whether he played really well last night is an IQ Test for the members of this board today.

Early grading shows there will need to be curve to get posters through this class...


What's very good? I think he's good, but he needs to prove he can actually win shootouts or get it done against the best defenses in the league because the offense is stacked. He should be putting up crazy stats. I've seen people harp on his 400 yards, yeh it came on a billion attempts for 6.9 ypa. That isn't good. If the Bucs secondary was any good he would have had a ton of picks. He also missed on easy TD to Zeke in the flat in the redzone on a rollout. No pressure in his face and Zeke was wide open. He just held the ball too long.

I noticed some fans here hold DJ to some ridiculous standard that they don't to other QBs because they don't like the results. Well if you put Dak in our offense last year you are getting similar results statistically from the QB.

People on this board really have no clue how to evaluate QB play, they just evaluate how the offense is doing and pin it entirely on the QB. Same story for decades, but football is the ultimate team sport. Wait until you see Stafford by the end of the year and he gets more comfortable in the offense. All the people dunking on him are out their minds (of course they are playing with fire with their OL but when Stafford wins with the Rams at 32 it goes to show you its about the supporting cast as well)
RE: All I can say is that  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/10/2021 2:11 pm : link
In comment 15358619 Gruber said:
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if Daniel Jones plays like Dak Presoctt did last night, I'd be more than happy.


Daniel Jones has already played like Dak last night, he just doesn't have even close to the same supporting cast. This year is a bit different, but their offense as a whole is still better than ours because their line is so much better.
To be honest, I didnt understand why they were stroking  
Rudy5757 : 9/10/2021 2:12 pm : link
Dak's jock all night. It was an average game, if that was the only body of work you had to judge I dont think you would say it was great. He threw it a ton but also had time in the pocket for the most part. I did think he struggled fon the longer throws and there were a few that were downright ugly.

Dak is what he is, a middle of the pack guy. Nothing from last night showed elite. He has a good OL and excellent receivers. They didnt get the ball in the endzone when they needed to. He also ran backwards on a 3rd down and got sacked pushng them further back and clock management on their last drive was poor, you cant leave Tom Brady that much time. I also didnt like how he was saying he played well. Your team lost, your performance really doesnt matter.
RE: RE: he's the definition of overrated. If he played for any other team  
EricJ : 9/10/2021 2:14 pm : link
In comment 15358389 Mike from Ohio said:
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If Daniel Jones played that game last night, this site would be littered with people putting him in the MVP conversation.


and just as many people saying that we need a new QB
RE: RE: Questioning if Dak is a very good QB at this point  
rsjem1979 : 9/10/2021 2:14 pm : link
In comment 15358621 Zeke's Alibi said:
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People on this board really have no clue how to evaluate QB play, they just evaluate how the offense is doing and pin it entirely on the QB. Same story for decades, but football is the ultimate team sport. Wait until you see Stafford by the end of the year and he gets more comfortable in the offense. All the people dunking on him are out their minds (of course they are playing with fire with their OL but when Stafford wins with the Rams at 32 it goes to show you its about the supporting cast as well)


Stafford has been legitimately good, regardless of his supporting cast, for like a decade. The wins aren't there, but that's not how you evaluate a QB either.
Zeke - your silly rant aside...  
Jimmy Googs : 9/10/2021 2:16 pm : link
In my view there is only a small handful of "elite/great" QBs playing in the NFL today.

And then there is a somewhat larger group of QBs that are "very good" meaning they have shown themselves to very talented, productive players that have not proven yet they can succeed in a playoff atmosphere.

Then there is everybody else.

Continue ranting...
Dak almost as good  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/10/2021 2:18 pm : link
of a situation that a rookie QB could start with. The Cowboys built a elite OL to go with a HOF TE and elite RB.

To his credit he has gotten better and better. He now is going to have to carry that team and with a injury prone OL and a running back that seems to have lost some power/speed.

The Cowboys may be a nice team in the regular season but I think they continue to falter as they are flawed. The Giants match up well with them and we can beat them.....twice imo.
RE: To be honest, I didnt understand why they were stroking  
Jimmy Googs : 9/10/2021 2:23 pm : link
In comment 15358626 Rudy5757 said:
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Dak's jock all night. It was an average game, if that was the only body of work you had to judge I dont think you would say it was great. He threw it a ton but also had time in the pocket for the most part. I did think he struggled fon the longer throws and there were a few that were downright ugly.

Dak is what he is, a middle of the pack guy. Nothing from last night showed elite. He has a good OL and excellent receivers. They didnt get the ball in the endzone when they needed to. He also ran backwards on a 3rd down and got sacked pushng them further back and clock management on their last drive was poor, you cant leave Tom Brady that much time. I also didnt like how he was saying he played well. Your team lost, your performance really doesnt matter.


Oh my. I don't even know where to start here...
Cricizing Prescott's play last night...  
JohnG in Albany : 9/10/2021 2:38 pm : link
seems odd to me.

RE: Zeke - your silly rant aside...  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/10/2021 2:39 pm : link
In comment 15358633 Jimmy Googs said:
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In my view there is only a small handful of "elite/great" QBs playing in the NFL today.

And then there is a somewhat larger group of QBs that are "very good" meaning they have shown themselves to very talented, productive players that have not proven yet they can succeed in a playoff atmosphere.

Then there is everybody else.

Continue ranting...


So very good is what top 12 QB? What was silly about the "rant"?
If great is Rogers, Mahomes, and maybe Allen  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/10/2021 2:41 pm : link
and then theres a large bucket of very good, what's the next step good, and then mediocre and then bad? Mediocre in your definition would be bottom third of the Qbs at that point, which isn't the definition of the word. Words, they have meaning you know.
RE: he's the definition of overrated. If he played for any other team  
Regular Coffee : 9/10/2021 2:49 pm : link
In comment 15358365 Victor in CT said:
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he be just another QB on just another team.

In fact the Cowboys would be just another team. Swap them with the Texans and who would care about them?


Maybe the Tampa pass defense is overrated? Never mind, it's been one whole game of a 17 game season. Dak is phenomenal. Dak is great. I love him.
I he can't get it  
Ron Johnson : 9/10/2021 2:50 pm : link
20 yards downfield it will show on film and everyone will take away the short stuff.

We'll see.
I still dont have Dak in my top 10  
GNewGiants : 9/10/2021 3:08 pm : link
If people look at a stat line and judge a players performance - they can be severely fooled. If Dak Prescott were playing Denver this weekend for the NYG - I would put up a few bills that 330 yards and 3 TDs would not be in his future.

A lot of QBs in the league could have QB'd the Cowboys last night and put up similar or better numbers. Guys were open all night and the protection was really good. Credit to Dak for making the throws, but lets not act like it was something he has done his whole career and something that will be the norm for the future.
I have never been a big fan Dak ...  
Beer Man : 9/10/2021 3:35 pm : link
admittedly, the fact he is the Cowboys' QB factors into that. My opinion of him (from a skills perspective)he is somewhere in the middle of the pack. However, I also believe he is a smart QB, and given the time he usually makes good decisions. And playing behind the Dallas OL is a big benefit, because they frequently give him and the receivers the time to make things happen.

Would he have had similar success (and the big contract) had he played behind the Giants' OLs of the last several years?
RE: I thought his throwing motion was  
Beer Man : 9/10/2021 3:37 pm : link
In comment 15358373 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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a little funny at times. I also noticed a few times he was not using his lower body a few times. He has not played in a long time but I think it is something coordinators will look at and try to make him throw certain routes.
There was an article posted during the preseason, that he was having to alter his throwing motion because of his injury issues.
RE: RE: he's the definition of overrated. If he played for any other team  
Mike from Ohio : 9/10/2021 3:52 pm : link
In comment 15358666 Regular Coffee said:
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he be just another QB on just another team.

In fact the Cowboys would be just another team. Swap them with the Texans and who would care about them?



Maybe the Tampa pass defense is overrated? Never mind, it's been one whole game of a 17 game season. Dak is phenomenal. Dak is great. I love him.


Are there adults who really can’t acknowledge that a guy who plays for a rival is good?

Admitting Prescott is a good QB does not mean you are rooting for him or you are a Cowboys fan. It means you can evaluate information objectively.
RE: RE: Zeke - your silly rant aside...  
Jimmy Googs : 9/10/2021 4:02 pm : link
In comment 15358654 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In my view there is only a small handful of "elite/great" QBs playing in the NFL today.

And then there is a somewhat larger group of QBs that are "very good" meaning they have shown themselves to very talented, productive players that have not proven yet they can succeed in a playoff atmosphere.

Then there is everybody else.

Continue ranting...



So very good is what top 12 QB? What was silly about the "rant"?


I would say elite are Top 3 guys or so. Very Good is probably 4 thru 10. The rest is just a bunch of guys that hover just above and below the Average line depending on the year.

Why?
RE: I still dont have Dak in my top 10  
Jimmy Googs : 9/10/2021 4:04 pm : link
In comment 15358701 GNewGiants said:
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If people look at a stat line and judge a players performance - they can be severely fooled. If Dak Prescott were playing Denver this weekend for the NYG - I would put up a few bills that 330 yards and 3 TDs would not be in his future.

A lot of QBs in the league could have QB'd the Cowboys last night and put up similar or better numbers. Guys were open all night and the protection was really good. Credit to Dak for making the throws, but lets not act like it was something he has done his whole career and something that will be the norm for the future.


Dak should reasonably be in the Top 10.

Give me all the guys that are above him then...
RE: I still dont have Dak in my top 10  
rsjem1979 : 9/10/2021 4:10 pm : link
In comment 15358701 GNewGiants said:
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If people look at a stat line and judge a players performance - they can be severely fooled. If Dak Prescott were playing Denver this weekend for the NYG - I would put up a few bills that 330 yards and 3 TDs would not be in his future.

A lot of QBs in the league could have QB'd the Cowboys last night and put up similar or better numbers. Guys were open all night and the protection was really good. Credit to Dak for making the throws, but lets not act like it was something he has done his whole career and something that will be the norm for the future.


In Dak's 70 career games:

400+ yards passing: 8
3+ TDs: 19
QB Rating 100+: 35
Comp% 70+: 23

Just because Jones stinks doesn't mean you have to tear down another team's QB despite all evidence to the contrary.
RE: Cricizing Prescott's play last night...  
joeinpa : 9/10/2021 4:11 pm : link
In comment 15358653 JohnG in Albany said:
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seems odd to me.


I think some fans take praise for players other than Giants as a personal insult, as they do criticism directed at the team,

Paul Dottino would be in this category
RE: RE: I still dont have Dak in my top 10  
GNewGiants : 9/10/2021 4:19 pm : link
In comment 15358773 Jimmy Googs said:
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If people look at a stat line and judge a players performance - they can be severely fooled. If Dak Prescott were playing Denver this weekend for the NYG - I would put up a few bills that 330 yards and 3 TDs would not be in his future.

A lot of QBs in the league could have QB'd the Cowboys last night and put up similar or better numbers. Guys were open all night and the protection was really good. Credit to Dak for making the throws, but lets not act like it was something he has done his whole career and something that will be the norm for the future.



Dak should reasonably be in the Top 10.

Give me all the guys that are above him then...


No order…

Mahomes
Brady
Rodgers
Murray
Jackson
Herbert
Wilson
Allen
Stafford


Those are my top 9. I’d probably put Tannehill 10. But you have guys like Cousins, Mayfield, Ryan, Dak, Big Ben (well not anymore - I think he’s cooked). So if you took Dak over Tannehill- I wouldn’t argue much. I think there’s like 5-6 guys you could argue for the 10th spot.

Of course if Watson were playing, he would be in my top 10 but I didn’t include him.
Gnew - pretty fair list overall although I would absolutely  
Jimmy Googs : 9/10/2021 4:28 pm : link
have Dak in the Top 10, probably around 8.

Murray and Herbert have lots of nice tools but have accomplished even less than Dak at this point in the non-fantasy world Stafford also goes behind Dak.

Agree with that other slug of names that are outside the top 10 and probably mentioned in the next grouping...
RE: Gnew - pretty fair list overall although I would absolutely  
GNewGiants : 9/10/2021 4:30 pm : link
In comment 15358810 Jimmy Googs said:
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have Dak in the Top 10, probably around 8.

Murray and Herbert have lots of nice tools but have accomplished even less than Dak at this point in the non-fantasy world Stafford also goes behind Dak.

Agree with that other slug of names that are outside the top 10 and probably mentioned in the next grouping...


I’m pretty bias when it comes to Stafford - I’m a huge fan. I think he’s actually the toughest QB in the league. I think if he were the Rams QBs in the SB - they win. So my judgement may be clouded there. I think Stafford will have a monster year.
RE: RE: Gnew - pretty fair list overall although I would absolutely  
Jimmy Googs : 9/10/2021 4:33 pm : link
In comment 15358815 GNewGiants said:
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have Dak in the Top 10, probably around 8.

Murray and Herbert have lots of nice tools but have accomplished even less than Dak at this point in the non-fantasy world Stafford also goes behind Dak.

Agree with that other slug of names that are outside the top 10 and probably mentioned in the next grouping...



I’m pretty bias when it comes to Stafford - I’m a huge fan. I think he’s actually the toughest QB in the league. I think if he were the Rams QBs in the SB - they win. So my judgement may be clouded there. I think Stafford will have a monster year.


Georgia Bulldogs!

I like him in that Ram offense too with Kupp and the other guys giving him more reliable weapons than he has had lately. Stafford likes to sling it and is tough as nails as you mentioned.
RE: RE: Gnew - pretty fair list overall although I would absolutely  
Johnny5 : 9/10/2021 4:41 pm : link
In comment 15358815 GNewGiants said:
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have Dak in the Top 10, probably around 8.

Murray and Herbert have lots of nice tools but have accomplished even less than Dak at this point in the non-fantasy world Stafford also goes behind Dak.

Agree with that other slug of names that are outside the top 10 and probably mentioned in the next grouping...



I’m pretty bias when it comes to Stafford - I’m a huge fan. I think he’s actually the toughest QB in the league. I think if he were the Rams QBs in the SB - they win. So my judgement may be clouded there. I think Stafford will have a monster year.

I 100% agree that Stafford QBing the Rams in that SB equates to a Rams win.
RE: he's the definition of overrated. If he played for any other team  
GMen72 : 9/11/2021 3:28 am : link
In comment 15358365 Victor in CT said:
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he be just another QB on just another team.

In fact the Cowboys would be just another team. Swap them with the Texans and who would care about them?


Wish DJ was that overrated! How about the throw over Godwin's shoulder, which he dropped (tough catch but great throw away from the coverage) ? TD pass to CeeDee? I hate the Cowgirls but Dak was really good last night while getting crushed. Giants' fans gonna hate...nature of the beast.
RE: RE: he's the definition of overrated. If he played for any other team  
GNewGiants : 9/11/2021 6:54 am : link
In comment 15359043 GMen72 said:
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he be just another QB on just another team.

In fact the Cowboys would be just another team. Swap them with the Texans and who would care about them?



Wish DJ was that overrated! How about the throw over Godwin's shoulder, which he dropped (tough catch but great throw away from the coverage) ? TD pass to CeeDee? I hate the Cowgirls but Dak was really good last night while getting crushed. Giants' fans gonna hate...nature of the beast.


That pass to Godwin was an amazing throw - brady could never throw it that well to his teammate. And wasn’t Dak sacked only once and hit only a few times?
Dak is in his 6th year as NFL starter  
joe48 : 9/11/2021 7:08 am : link
As many have already stated he was put into a perfect situation to develop his skills. First couple of year Dallas has elite OL and Zeke ran up and down the field. The Dak had Witten as a safety valve. They slowly expanded the playbook over the years and have a the best receiving core in NFL. To his credit he has worked hard and is a gamer. Dallas spent all their money on offense so now he needs to start being a guy who can be a real difference maker.
Jones's situation is the polar opposite. He hasn’t had the weapons nor the OL. After 2 years in our system it is hard to evaluate DJ. Dak has had a great situation but has gotten better for sure. Reading the comment on BBI some have decided that Jones is not our future. I am not a talent evaluator. I do not think you can evaluate talent in a situation where the support has been less than fair.
To the OP's original question/observation...  
bw in dc : 9/11/2021 7:19 am : link
Yes, I agree. Dak wasn't getting a lot of zip on the ball. His completions were mostly were well timed and well placed.

The ball that bounced off Cee Dee Lamb's hands for an INT was a laser. Dak really stepped into that and threw a pure strike. Lamb should have absolutely caught that.

But Dak played very well in terms of pocket presence, poise, toughness and getting the ball out on time. I think his YPA and AY/A were more a derivative of Dallas using the short passing game as their quasi-running game since they really didn't even try to establish a running game. And if you think about it, it sort of worked at Dallas dominated TOP by nearly 10 minutes.
I think Dak is a good QB overall  
nygiants16 : 9/11/2021 8:16 am : link
id take him over Jones right in a nanosecond, he is tough, he can move and he can make every throw BUT it is clear the cowboys are at their best when Elliott is the top guy in the offense. Cowboys simply dont win with Dak throwing 50 times, i dont think Dak loses games for them at all..

RE: I think Dak is a good QB overall  
bw in dc : 9/11/2021 10:04 am : link
In comment 15359073 nygiants16 said:
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id take him over Jones right in a nanosecond, he is tough, he can move and he can make every throw BUT it is clear the cowboys are at their best when Elliott is the top guy in the offense. Cowboys simply dont win with Dak throwing 50 times, i dont think Dak loses games for them at all..


Dallas absolutely needs to revisit their offensive identity and how the running game applies. But they have a more glaring issue with their defense. I think it's in better hands with Quinn, but they have some real talent deficiencies.

RE: RE: I think Dak is a good QB overall  
nygiants16 : 9/11/2021 10:37 am : link
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id take him over Jones right in a nanosecond, he is tough, he can move and he can make every throw BUT it is clear the cowboys are at their best when Elliott is the top guy in the offense. Cowboys simply dont win with Dak throwing 50 times, i dont think Dak loses games for them at all..




Dallas absolutely needs to revisit their offensive identity and how the running game applies. But they have a more glaring issue with their defense. I think it's in better hands with Quinn, but they have some real talent deficiencies.


no argument about their defense when you have 4 takeaways and still give up 31 points you are awful defensively
Pretty much the correct sentiment regarding the Dallas defense  
Jimmy Googs : 9/11/2021 11:06 am : link
who were basically fortunate they didn’t give up even more points the other evening.

The volume of posters downplaying Dak’s performance and some even blaming him yesterday was actually surprising and just screamed to the bias that exists with so many on the site. Some so blatant they couldn’t even leave Daniel Jones’ name out of their posts.

RE: Pretty much the correct sentiment regarding the Dallas defense  
nygiants16 : 9/11/2021 11:21 am : link
In comment 15359158 Jimmy Googs said:
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who were basically fortunate they didn’t give up even more points the other evening.

The volume of posters downplaying Dak’s performance and some even blaming him yesterday was actually surprising and just screamed to the bias that exists with so many on the site. Some so blatant they couldn’t even leave Daniel Jones’ name out of their posts.


ok so if Jones throws for 300 yards and 3 tds and has 2 near picks, you are not allowed to say good game but he should of had 2 picks..
Don’t understand the Dak haters?  
RicFlair : 9/11/2021 11:23 am : link
He’s the cowboys quarterback, enough said.
It’s not hating on a QB  
GNewGiants : 9/11/2021 11:48 am : link
When you say if you replaced him with a dozen or so QBs with their team - you will get similar or better results than what he is produced.

Downplaying his surrounding cost is the funny thing in this thread - not the other way around.
RE: All I can say is that  
Josh in the City : 9/11/2021 11:50 am : link
In comment 15358619 Gruber said:
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if Daniel Jones plays like Dak Presoctt did last night, I'd be more than happy.

This. Based on what we’ve seen from our QB’s the past 8 years we’d all do anything to have a QB that could perform anywhere CLOSE to as well as Dak did last night. Any other opinion is simply people deliberately fooling themselves.
RE: RE: Pretty much the correct sentiment regarding the Dallas defense  
Jimmy Googs : 9/11/2021 12:03 pm : link
In comment 15359162 nygiants16 said:
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who were basically fortunate they didn’t give up even more points the other evening.

The volume of posters downplaying Dak’s performance and some even blaming him yesterday was actually surprising and just screamed to the bias that exists with so many on the site. Some so blatant they couldn’t even leave Daniel Jones’ name out of their posts.




ok so if Jones throws for 300 yards and 3 tds and has 2 near picks, you are not allowed to say good game but he should of had 2 picks..


Me? I would be ecstatic for him. That’s like a third of his entire production last season in ONE game!
RE: It’s not hating on a QB  
Jimmy Googs : 9/11/2021 12:10 pm : link
In comment 15359183 GNewGiants said:
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When you say if you replaced him with a dozen or so QBs with their team - you will get similar or better results than what he is produced.


Agreed, it’s not hate. Only ignorance...

:-)

RE: RE: All I can say is that  
GNewGiants : 9/11/2021 12:34 pm : link
In comment 15359185 Josh in the City said:
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if Daniel Jones plays like Dak Presoctt did last night, I'd be more than happy.


This. Based on what we’ve seen from our QB’s the past 8 years we’d all do anything to have a QB that could perform anywhere CLOSE to as well as Dak did last night. Any other opinion is simply people deliberately fooling themselves.


You don’t watch much football, do you?
RE: RE: RE: he's the definition of overrated. If he played for any other team  
Scuzzlebutt : 9/11/2021 12:58 pm : link
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he be just another QB on just another team.

In fact the Cowboys would be just another team. Swap them with the Texans and who would care about them?



Only on BBI does a QB who completes 72% of his passes for 400 yards and 3 TDs against one of the top defenses in the league - with none of it being 'garbage time' - get called overrated.

If Daniel Jones played that game last night, this site would be littered with people putting him in the MVP conversation.



If Jones did that people would be bitching about him only being good at dink and dunk. You've already heard it about YPA. Daks was like 6.9 which was roughly the same as Jones in his last preseason game, and was held up as crap.


If Jones did it behind the Giants OL and unproven receiving corp, he would deserve the accolades.
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