Dont know how any fan who is not a 1000% pessimist would even go there. I looked in real quick....and got the hell out. Pretty sure there are prisoners on death row who have a more positive outlook on life than some of the idiots in that thread. Its a football game people....and a close game at that. We wait all offseason to watch a damn game that is supposed to be entertainment only to be completely miserable and for 3 hours. Unreal.
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When was BBI at its best? During the Dave Brown era. No joke. It's not even close.
Dave Brown was the starting QB for the Giants the first two years of your site, if memory serves me correctly. I didn’t start reading by until 1999.
If the subsequent 24 haven’t even been close, I’m surprised you think there’s been a recent down tick in the quality of Giants fans.
Most 40 and 50 year old men who have seen decades of football in New York didn't used to whine like little kids like they do now when the game is still very much in the balance.
It doesn't have to do with the state of the team because Giants fans on this site when through 1995-1996, 1998-1999, 2003-2004, etc.
Game threads have always been bad on BBI because there is no filter. But today was bad even for game threads. Jesus Christ, it was a 3-point game at halftime.
What didn't surprise me today was the defense collapsing late in the first half (we did that much of the early part of last year...I mentioned this in my game preview on Friday). Where the defense really came up short however was on 4th down. Different game if they stop that.
Also a different game if any of those three long drives we had in the second half result in touchdowns.
What didn't surprise me today was the defense collapsing late in the first half (we did that much of the early part of last year...I mentioned this in my game preview on Friday). Where the defense really came up short however was on 4th down. Different game if they stop that.
Also a different game if any of those three long drives we had in the second half result in touchdowns.
It was a poor performance by the entire team.
Denver deserves credit. They were just the better team. I thought they were talented, but Bridgewater would hold them back. But he played very well...to my chargin.
Damn side slinging throwing, noodle arm bastard... ;)
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That one fanbase is smarter than another is kind of stupid.
Madden used to always say how NY Giants fans were the smartest fans in football... I think it's because back in the 60s they were the first to cheer like crazy when it was the other team's offensive 3rd down...
It may have been the case back then because the NY fanbase had the luxury of reading NY print. But in the internet age? Every fanbase is loaded with the same percentage of morons, pessimists and optimists. None of us are anything more, we're all probably idiots actually just based on the fact we care.
The Accorsi Giants never had a stretch this bad. The fan base is itchy.
Some really stupid fans.
Giants fans used to be known for their intelligence, but that ship sailed a long, long time ago. Kind of remind me of Washington fans now.
I stopped posting on BBI years ago. It's a lot different than prior years past.
In many ways, the internet age has been a godsend for information, but it also seems to have shortened people's attention spans to the point of near oblivion. (Hence, you literally now see NJ.com post 3- and 4-paragraph "articles").
In the old days, Giants fans would read entire newspapers dedicated to the team (Giants Newsweekly, Giants Insider, print version of Inside Football).
But my God, all fans and media types don't seem to remember what happened two weeks ago now.
The Accorsi Giants never had a stretch this bad. The fan base is itchy.
You really need to back and re-read that thread.
The Accorsi Giants never had a stretch this bad. The fan base is itchy.
The '90s teams were never this bad either - and they were in a division with Jimmy Johnson's Cowboys.
At what point is it ok to call shit, shit? How bad does it have to get before it's ok to think that this team is a disaster that is still unfolding as we speak?
The fans are angry BECAUSE they remember the last few years. How many times have we said 15-33, gone over the mistakes on and off the field?
This isn't the 10-0 1990 team showing up flat in Philly. This current team is a disaster that is the result of years of mistakes that we've been calling mistakes add they've happened.
The angler and frustration is not coming out of left field. Anything but.
Reads like a fan base that’s nervous the roof will inevitably collapse, which as you pointed out, it did.
But I'm not sure what anyone would expect with this record. The Giants are 9-24 in their last 33 home games. They 3-11 in September going back to 2017. If they lose Thursday they will be 0-2 for the 5th year in a row.
On top of all of that every single topic we have debated here to death since last season ended went the wrong way today. The QB had another game changing turnover, the OL was horrid, there was no pass rush, the play calling was awful and the same as last year.
People come here to talk and at this point there's nothing good to talk about. So they vent. There's nothing else they can do.
In many ways, the internet age has been a godsend for information, but it also seems to have shortened people's attention spans to the point of near oblivion. (Hence, you literally now see NJ.com post 3- and 4-paragraph "articles").
In the old days, Giants fans would read entire newspapers dedicated to the team (Giants Newsweekly, Giants Insider, print version of Inside Football).
But my God, all fans and media types don't seem to remember what happened two weeks ago now.
In many ways, the internet age has been a godsend for information, but it also seems to have shortened people's attention spans to the point of near oblivion. (Hence, you literally now see NJ.com post 3- and 4-paragraph "articles").
In the old days, Giants fans would read entire newspapers dedicated to the team (Giants Newsweekly, Giants Insider, print version of Inside Football).
But my God, all fans and media types don't seem to remember what happened two weeks ago now.
The fact that we care puts us in the Romper Room, so enjoy the idiot party because its the cost of admission. We're all idiots.
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When was BBI at its best? During the Dave Brown era. No joke. It's not even close.
Dave Brown was the starting QB for the Giants the first two years of your site, if memory serves me correctly. I didn’t start reading by until 1999.
If the subsequent 24 haven’t even been close, I’m surprised you think there’s been a recent down tick in the quality of Giants fans.
Most 40 and 50 year old men who have seen decades of football in New York didn't used to whine like little kids like they do now when the game is still very much in the balance.
It doesn't have to do with the state of the team because Giants fans on this site when through 1995-1996, 1998-1999, 2003-2004, etc.
Game threads have always been bad on BBI because there is no filter. But today was bad even for game threads. Jesus Christ, it was a 3-point game at halftime.
So saying fans endured 1995, 1998, etc. is missing the point. Those seasons were enveloped by decent seasons. Hell, even the Fassell era, which was the epitome of a roller coaster, still had as many good as bad seasons. Again, in my 40+ years as a fan, I had not seen a string of losing seasons like this.
I have a hard time equating positivity with sharp observation.
I have a hard time equating positivity with sharp observation.
this one should go over well...
I think there’s a group of really earnest guys who look for the bright side, and if the trends and outcomes don’t support their positivity, they don’t really lose sleep over it.
That’s an admirable life trait, but a little boring when debating football online with strangers.
In many ways, the internet age has been a godsend for information, but it also seems to have shortened people's attention spans to the point of near oblivion. (Hence, you literally now see NJ.com post 3- and 4-paragraph "articles").
In the old days, Giants fans would read entire newspapers dedicated to the team (Giants Newsweekly, Giants Insider, print version of Inside Football).
But my God, all fans and media types don't seem to remember what happened two weeks ago now.
Eric, I had a very bullish outlook on the season and actually had us losing this one on the way to 10 wins, but this was fucking pathetic and it’s completely at the feet of the coaching staff. They all got pantsed today, especially Graham. Way too much talent on that side of the ball to call games like he does now. I’m starting to think he’s a very strictly scheme guy and the loss of Dalvin is going to hurt a lot (and I can go into more about the reasoning behind that)
I don’t even know what to make of the offense because the offensive line isn’t close to good enough to have everyone sit on the god damn sidelines 10 minutes at a time. Just can’t get in a rythym like that unless you are dominating up front offensively. I give Garrett the most slight of passes because he’s still figuring out how to use his mew weapons but he better figure it out quick.
And Judge, well this was his worst outing as HC, worse than the Cards game last year. He needs to make sure the gameplan is cohesive and works complimentary of each other. Not to mention the ingame snafus and coaching waaaay too conservatively.
It’s week 1 and I thought we were going to stay 0-2, but after this debacle, they need to beat WFT on the road. Lose at home like this and then a divisional game and things have potential to become a mutiny if you lose to the dregs that are known as the Falcons at home.
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this one should go over well...
I think there’s a group of really earnest guys who look for the bright side, and if the trends and outcomes don’t support their positivity, they don’t really lose sleep over it.
That’s an admirable life trait, but a little boring when debating football online with strangers.
How is it boring? As a matter of fact, it could be said that there are a group of really earnest guys who look for the negative, and if the trends and outcomes support their negativity they jump for joy.
It's a somewhat sad take especially after one game but in all honesty, I find it somewhat legit given what we saw today. But it is a little boring given how they love to crow about any miscue on BBI and finally gain some sleep because they think it proves them right.
I hope you honestly see how ridiculous your post was
But no, let's bitch about how fans are mad on the game thread.
The Accorsi Giants never had a stretch this bad. The fan base is itchy.
This was me. I was pretty calm but man that garbage fumble really pissed me off. Same old shit and people think turning the ball over is nothing to worry about. Boring.
Yup. Pathetic.
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The supposed intelligence of any fanbase is directly proportionate to the success the team is having.
It’s easy to discuss playing well. It’s quite another story when you are a perennial door mat.
The Giants got clubbed like a baby seal today. I am curious why today is the day to be criticizing the negativity of some fans.
Don't be dumb.
If you read the game thread, fans were acting like we were losing 30-3 when the score was 7-3 Giants and 10-7 Broncos.
Any reasonable football fan expected that kind of game heading into this contest.
The roof collapsed in the second half, but the "fans" had already abandoned the team when it was 10-7.
It is more than that. There are people who truly do not understand the game. There are people who must be watching a different game based upon their comments. There are also people who are not happy unless they are bitching and complaining.
The team is bad and we knew that going into the season. I dont understand why people set much higher expectations and then find themselves pissed off and complaining on a game thread.... like it is a surprise.
The team is bad and we knew that going into the season. I dont understand why people set much higher expectations and then find themselves pissed off and complaining on a game thread.... like it is a surprise.
That's not it. This has got absolutely nothing to do with being happy about bitching and complaining. You're just making that weird idea up in your own head.
Yesterday's "performance" left me anything but happy. You could figure it out yourself that maybe people are tired of watching the same bullshit year after year. Why would a Giants fan be happy the team sucks?
This was a winnable game and the Giants came out once again, awful. Coaching, poor play, bad play calling.
So let me get this right, the team is bad , that's a given and then when they play bad, you "you shouldve known better" and can't vent your frustrations on a message board.
These posts are stranger than the worst ones on the game thread.
I was fine on the game thread and got annoyed at the Jones fumble and play calling but at the same time IDC if someone is ranting or whatever during a game That's their choice.
Don't like it? Stay off them and watch the games at the bar.
If anything you shouldn't be surprised how game threads are. It's not as if BBI hasn't been around for 20 plus years ...
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And then they come out and lay a big steaming turd like this at home, against a mediocre team, and people aren't supposed to get angry? The hell with that.
I have a hard time equating positivity with sharp observation.
I tend to think those that think like me are sharp thinkers as well, although there is always that side of me that consistently reminds me that I could very well be mistaken, and probably am in some way, whether small or large.
That's not it. This has got absolutely nothing to do with being happy about bitching and complaining. You're just making that weird idea up in your own head.
This was a winnable game and the Giants came out once again, awful. Coaching, poor play, bad play calling.
So let me get this right, the team is bad , that's a given and then when they play bad, you "you shouldve known better" and can't vent your frustrations on a message board.
These posts are stranger than the worst ones on the game thread.
I was fine on the game thread and got annoyed at the Jones fumble and play calling but at the same time IDC if someone is ranting or whatever during a game That's their choice.
Don't like it? Stay off them and watch the games at the bar.
If anything you shouldn't be surprised how game threads are. It's not as if BBI hasn't been around for 20 plus years ...
First... I did not create this thread so I am not surprised at all by the game threads and how they are. You should have directed your last point to the OP.
My point is NOT that we should not be upset that the team did not play well... but that anyone is surprised. To allow yourself to get so worked up over a predictable performance from a bad football team is a problem for you. The Denver game was a winnable game in YOUR mind and you did some kind of twisted football math in your head and told yourself we were better than them before kickoff.
What bothers "ME" on the game threads is the complete lack of knowledge about the game of football by so many people who talk out of their ass. Maybe I should not be surprised and that is my fault for coming into a game thread thinking something will be different... but it has gotten worse over the past couple of years.
I seldom go on NYG game threads because the intelligent factor absolutely goes down versus other threads. But mostly because the knee-jerk reactions and fan emotions are at their highest levels. Every now and then I do join in on one, and it takes no time whatsoever to realize it's not a good place to be.
And when it was a 3 point deficit at halftime, with the Broncos receiving the ball to start the second half, did you have any confidence that the Giants would win the game?
And when it was a 3 point deficit at halftime, with the Broncos receiving the ball to start the second half, did you have any confidence that the Giants would win the game?
At around Thanksgiving of 2007, I had no confidence that the Giants would make the playoffs.
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I find the lion’s share of posters who are regularly positive to be less informed and less analytical than those who are regularly negative.
I have a hard time equating positivity with sharp observation.
I tend to think those that think like me are sharp thinkers as well, although there is always that side of me that consistently reminds me that I could very well be mistaken, and probably am in some way, whether small or large.
I think you’re very sharp. I also would never confuse your fence sitting as positive : )
This is both a statement and question:
what are we doing...
At around Thanksgiving of 2007, I had no confidence that the Giants would make the playoffs.
I probably didn't either. On the other hand, that team had made the playoffs in the two previous seasons, so there was much more reason to be hopeful that they would turn it around than that this team will pull a 180.
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Jesus Christ, it was a 3-point game at halftime.
And when it was a 3 point deficit at halftime, with the Broncos receiving the ball to start the second half, did you have any confidence that the Giants would win the game?
So this is a case in point. You ended up being right, but in the NFL, a three point game at halftime and you're waving the white flag?
The game thread was no doubt littered with posters crying the season is over.
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I find the lion’s share of posters who are regularly positive to be less informed and less analytical than those who are regularly negative.
I have a hard time equating positivity with sharp observation.
I tend to think those that think like me are sharp thinkers as well, although there is always that side of me that consistently reminds me that I could very well be mistaken, and probably am in some way, whether small or large.
I think you’re very sharp. I also would never confuse your fence sitting as positive : )
That's it Christian -- I'm pissed! How dare you diss my fence sitting. It's hard to sit on a fence, very uncomfortable!
Just about everyone who gets in front of a mic turns into a hype man,starting with the coach.
I believe the Jones fumble occured when it was Broncos 17-7. I still thought the game was within reach at that point when the Giants were driving but after that fumble happened I would've bet my entire family and the house that the Giants wouldn't win and the game was over. The fumble was late in the 3rd. I just stopped paying attention and went to BBI for all of the ranting and ranting about ranting.
Maybe we should be bashing the Mara’s and their lack of football knowledge then the fans who vent their frustration watching this garbage.
Not too long ago, we had great threads on dissecting the stupid comments on the game threads.
Yes they have always been like this as long as I remember.
The joke is the product on the field. Fans have a right to be upset and reactionary - this team hasn’t won the NFC East in 10 years, only one playoff appearance and they just looked listless in a winnable game at home.
I have a hard time equating positivity with sharp observation.
And then said positive posters regularly conveniently disappear when the team looks like shit.