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Anakim : 9/12/2021 6:56 pm
What a fucking disaster that game was
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Thanks to the Giants  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/12/2021 7:14 pm : link
Sucking for multiple years, my handicap has dropped from 21 to 11.8
We  
AcidTest : 9/12/2021 7:15 pm : link
were not competitive. Just like most of our games during DG's tenure. We got beat up and down the entire field all day on both sides of the ball.
RE: What I don't understand is how you sign Golladay  
CT Charlie : 9/12/2021 7:15 pm : link
In comment 15362273 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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for all that money and then design ways to get him some quick touches? They had limited possessions but they never changed tempo or anything like that.
We actually started to speed things up and move the ball nicely – right before DJ's headfirst gain-3-more-needless-yards-and-risk-fumbling fumble.
I would really like to see Jones  
Giantfan21 : 9/12/2021 7:15 pm : link
have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge
It was ugly  
UberAlias : 9/12/2021 7:15 pm : link
We lose like this on Thursday snd this could start to spiral. JG is terrible. DG too.
This place  
Photoguy : 9/12/2021 7:15 pm : link
cracks me up.
We  
AcidTest : 9/12/2021 7:16 pm : link
were not competitive. Just like most of our games during DG's tenure. We got beat up and down the entire field all day on both sides of the ball.
RE: It's clear after Week 1  
Giants_West : 9/12/2021 7:16 pm : link
In comment 15362135 Bramton1 said:
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Worst team in the division.

Offense gets a C. Defense gets a F.


Offense gets a "C" in a game where we score 7 points? Man standards were already rock bottom
RE: I would really like to see Jones  
Sammo85 : 9/12/2021 7:17 pm : link
In comment 15362381 Giantfan21 said:
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have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge


Nope. Too little and too late. 3 and out.
Eli is still in the building  
GiantSteps : 9/12/2021 7:17 pm : link
Lol
Not visiting BBI until they win one.  
JoeMorrison40 : 9/12/2021 7:17 pm : link
Their play was so poor, I am not going to dwell on them for awhile. 3 hrs wasted.
welp  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/12/2021 7:17 pm : link
RE: RE: What I don't understand is how you sign Golladay  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/12/2021 7:17 pm : link
In comment 15362377 CT Charlie said:
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for all that money and then design ways to get him some quick touches? They had limited possessions but they never changed tempo or anything like that.

We actually started to speed things up and move the ball nicely – right before DJ's headfirst gain-3-more-needless-yards-and-risk-fumbling fumble.


And that was when in the game?
Love the  
Sammo85 : 9/12/2021 7:18 pm : link
4th quarter stat padding.
RE: Daniel Jones is allergic to the end zone.  
family progtitioner : 9/12/2021 7:18 pm : link
In comment 15362261 bceagle05 said:
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Fucking terrible player. I’d call him Gettleman’s biggest draft blunder, but he took Barkley the year before.


Gettleman. LOL. Awful drafter. SB and DJ back to back. Let that sink in
RE: I would really like to see Jones  
GoDeep13 : 9/12/2021 7:18 pm : link
In comment 15362381 Giantfan21 said:
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have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge
Thank you! I wish Jones was healthy for that Browns game with Kitchens callin the plays last year, it was the most aggressive the Giants were all last year. Garrett has called the most uneventful offense I’ve watched all day.
Trade  
brookeny : 9/12/2021 7:19 pm : link
Let’s get deshaun Watson
This game sucked  
Dukie Dimes : 9/12/2021 7:20 pm : link
No sugarcoating it. Everyone sucked. About the only reprieve is that it’s just one game and they can get the crappy taste out of their mouths against 0-1 Washington in a few days.
RE: Let's skip the winging about Garrett  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/12/2021 7:21 pm : link
In comment 15362265 widmerseyebrow said:
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We did the same with Shurmur's offense on his way out. And yet Shurmur just schooled us.

I don't think Garrett is some savant, but perhaps we've replaced mediocre players with more mediocre players for the last 10 years.


Shurmur's offense was a lot better than this. He lacked players but got production out of Golden Tate's washed up corpse. And it helped Jones too.

Garrett was overrated just like everything else from Dallas. Overrated. They were happy to get rid of him and haven't missed a beat since. Some people still think Garrett is somehow responsible for the development of Prescott and Romo and that's a shame.
Its not just the players its the coaches  
MartyNJ1969 : 9/12/2021 7:21 pm : link
Judge is just a cursing alpha male on sidelines. He didn’t fo one in game adjustment at halftime. Our Oc is inept
How  
Shady Lurker : 9/12/2021 7:21 pm : link
did our 1st round rookie do today? He got positive yardage, right? Right?
.........  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 9/12/2021 7:21 pm : link
Obviously he has the season to prove himself.

But game 1 - DJ is tracking "draft a replacement"
Daniel jones led the Giants in rushing ydg  
Red Right Hand : 9/12/2021 7:22 pm : link
Danield jones had more passing ydg the bridgewater, lol.
Stats are useless sometimes...
No team is going to let Barkley get going  
David B. : 9/12/2021 7:22 pm : link
as long as Jones can't make them pay. And thus far he can't.

So you have a generational talent at RB and it doesn't mean dick, cause no one's gonna let him get more than 4 yard when they aren't scared of the QB.

And a 6th overall QB who can't out play Teddy Bridgewater.

It's early, and I expect the Giants to improve, but as of today, I'm about 60% sure Jones ain't the guy. I see no flashes of magic. Yet he's still good for at least one fumble or bad turnover per game.
Odd question but why did anakim  
bhill410 : 9/12/2021 7:23 pm : link
Start this and not Eric?
RE: Daniel jones led the Giants in rushing ydg  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/12/2021 7:23 pm : link
In comment 15362445 Red Right Hand said:
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Danield jones had more passing ydg the bridgewater, lol.
Stats are useless sometimes...


Same shit different year.
Haven’t always agreed with Terps  
Ned In Atlanta : 9/12/2021 7:23 pm : link
But he’s 100% right. This team blows. Mara is a problem and
Gettleman should have been fired two years ago. The pom Pom crew will lay low but this whole thing needs to be blown up. And that means no John Mara or Ernie Accorsi involved in hiring the next gm. And if the new GM wants a new coach then Judge isn’t safe either
Giants need to do something drastic fire FO tomorrow  
big canoe jeff : 9/12/2021 7:23 pm : link
Cut their losses with DJ nice guy works hard etc. doeasnt have it
Scared shitless Mara paralyzed by fear
RE: RE: I would really like to see Jones  
Giantfan21 : 9/12/2021 7:23 pm : link
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have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge



Nope. Too little and too late. 3 and out.


What is there to lose by firing Garrett and giving Jones till the end of the year to see if he can improve under someone else ?

We know forsure with Garrett this will be a lost season, Jones will not improve, and all the Weapons DG added will be wasted
By Oct. 24, this team will be 1-6  
The_Boss : 9/12/2021 7:23 pm : link
You can take it to the bank..

My 6-11 season prediction was overly optimistic. These guys blow cock. Tired of losing. It’s old.
RE: RE: It’s hard to care about any of it  
JOrthman : 9/12/2021 7:24 pm : link
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1 game in and I can’t get excited about anybody on this team.



Yeah I can’t tell when Barkley is in vs Booker, sad. Run blocking sucks but Barkley doesn’t look right to my eye.


Yes, but he also hasn't had real game action in almost a year until today.
.  
Go Terps : 9/12/2021 7:24 pm : link
I see Jones scored the John Mara "arrow is pointing up" moral victory touchdown at the end. Good for him. Reminds me of all those meaningless Barkley receptions in 2018.

Let's call Jacksonville about Minshew...oh wait...
RE: No team is going to let Barkley get going  
Silver Spoon : 9/12/2021 7:24 pm : link
In comment 15362449 David B. said:
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as long as Jones can't make them pay. And thus far he can't.

So you have a generational talent at RB and it doesn't mean dick, cause no one's gonna let him get more than 4 yard when they aren't scared of the QB.

And a 6th overall QB who can't out play Teddy Bridgewater.

It's early, and I expect the Giants to improve, but as of today, I'm about 60% sure Jones ain't the guy. I see no flashes of magic. Yet he's still good for at least one fumble or bad turnover per game.


A generational talent at RB. Please, stop with that nonsense.
RE: RE: RE: I would really like to see Jones  
Matt M. : 9/12/2021 7:24 pm : link
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have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge



Nope. Too little and too late. 3 and out.



What is there to lose by firing Garrett and giving Jones till the end of the year to see if he can improve under someone else ?

We know forsure with Garrett this will be a lost season, Jones will not improve, and all the Weapons DG added will be wasted
It's hard to disagree with that. 1 game might be a bit early. But, if after a few games, the offense looks like this, I would be behind this.
RE: RE: I would really like to see Jones  
bw in dc : 9/12/2021 7:24 pm : link
In comment 15362418 GoDeep13 said:
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have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge

Thank you! I wish Jones was healthy for that Browns game with Kitchens callin the plays last year, it was the most aggressive the Giants were all last year. Garrett has called the most uneventful offense I’ve watched all day.


I continue to believe Garrett's offense is hamstrung by Jones's limitations. But Garrett provides a convenient out for those who think Jones is a first round talent.

Which reminds me. Where are the first round skills with this guy? He just continues to be the definition of ordinary.
RE: By Oct. 24, this team will be 1-6  
The_Boss : 9/12/2021 7:24 pm : link
In comment 15362457 The_Boss said:
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You can take it to the bank..

My 6-11 season prediction was overly optimistic. These guys blow cock. Tired of losing. It’s old.


1-7 by Nov 1..week 8 is in KC…

☹️
RE: Let's skip the winging about Garrett  
Debaser : 9/12/2021 7:24 pm : link
In comment 15362265 widmerseyebrow said:
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We did the same with Shurmur's offense on his way out. And yet Shurmur just schooled us.

I don't think Garrett is some savant, but perhaps we've replaced mediocre players with more mediocre players for the last 10 years.


That’s exactly what happened. At least I suspect the owners told Reese to go young and cheap or something given their cap and Lombardi’s what the F is gettle”s excuse?
RE: RE: Let's skip the winging about Garrett  
Matt M. : 9/12/2021 7:26 pm : link
In comment 15362469 Debaser said:
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We did the same with Shurmur's offense on his way out. And yet Shurmur just schooled us.

I don't think Garrett is some savant, but perhaps we've replaced mediocre players with more mediocre players for the last 10 years.



That’s exactly what happened. At least I suspect the owners told Reese to go young and cheap or something given their cap and Lombardi’s what the F is gettle”s excuse?
I disagree. The OL is still questionable. But, the skill players aren't mediocre. Golladay, Rudolph, Shepard, Barkley. That's not mediocre. Then Slayton and Toney as 3/4 is also above average talent.
3-14, I saw this coming a mile away  
MartyNJ1969 : 9/12/2021 7:28 pm : link
Wait till the finger pointing starts between coaches and the defensive and offensive players. Giants Org and MGMT didn't play the starters in preseason and this is what you get.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I would really like to see Jones  
Giantfan21 : 9/12/2021 7:28 pm : link
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have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge



Nope. Too little and too late. 3 and out.



What is there to lose by firing Garrett and giving Jones till the end of the year to see if he can improve under someone else ?

We know forsure with Garrett this will be a lost season, Jones will not improve, and all the Weapons DG added will be wasted

It's hard to disagree with that. 1 game might be a bit early. But, if after a few games, the offense looks like this, I would be behind this.


I have seen enough through 17 games. Garrett is the worst OC i have ever seen. Zero creativity, Zero unpredictability, no scheming anybody open, Receivers running short of 3rd down sticks, Running plays are all straight into the Oline, Zero aggressiveness when They desperately need points,no changes in tempo of the offense . It's just awful to watch
I'm an optimist and can usually  
rebel yell : 9/12/2021 7:28 pm : link
find one or two positives from a game. With this performance I can think of nothing other than it appears nobody was lost to a season-ending injury.
Nothing really to be happy about today...  
BillKo : 9/12/2021 7:29 pm : link
...defense was terrible. Offense wasn't on the field a lot but another Jones turnover and just bad play calling overall IMO makes you think - WTF was this team doing all offseason/preseason.

Even the HC, who we all lean on to lead us out of that dark decade - doesn't know the rule (along with the crowd that thought fumbling the ball after hitting the pylon is some sort of turnover).

I am going to say this - particularly about a team like the Giants. They made a huge mistake not playing the starters more in the preseason.

I'll give them the first quarter of the season before I write them off...I know most of us are doing that already.

RE: Nothing really to be happy about today...  
bluewave : 9/12/2021 7:31 pm : link
In comment 15362488 BillKo said:
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...defense was terrible. Offense wasn't on the field a lot but another Jones turnover and just bad play calling overall IMO makes you think - WTF was this team doing all offseason/preseason.

Even the HC, who we all lean on to lead us out of that dark decade - doesn't know the rule (along with the crowd that thought fumbling the ball after hitting the pylon is some sort of turnover).

I am going to say this - particularly about a team like the Giants. They made a huge mistake not playing the starters more in the preseason.

I'll give them the first quarter of the season before I write them off...I know most of us are doing that already.


I COMPLETELY AGREE on not playing the starters in the pre-season! Guarantee Judge does not do that again!!!!
RE: Its not just the players its the coaches  
Toth029 : 9/12/2021 7:32 pm : link
In comment 15362439 MartyNJ1969 said:
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Judge is just a cursing alpha male on sidelines. He didn’t fo one in game adjustment at halftime. Our Oc is inept


Graham and his defense was the worst issue today. But we gonna bitch about Garrett?
brutal  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/12/2021 7:32 pm : link
So disappointed in this Franchise right now. I expected a much better performance against a decent but nothing special Broncos team.

I don't know what else to say, I don't even feel like getting into the details of it. I just know that this was a real gut punch.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I would really like to see Jones  
BillKo : 9/12/2021 7:33 pm : link
In comment 15362485 Giantfan21 said:
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I have seen enough through 17 games. Garrett is the worst OC i have ever seen. Zero creativity, Zero unpredictability, no scheming anybody open, Receivers running short of 3rd down sticks, Running plays are all straight into the Oline, Zero aggressiveness when They desperately need points,no changes in tempo of the offense . It's just awful to watch


I mean, really, do we ever run a pick play down near the endzone to try and get someone open?

WTF was that Golladay play at the goal line...run to the pylon and jump for the pass?
It’s looking  
Everyone Relax : 9/12/2021 7:34 pm : link
Like it’s going to be a “they are 1-5 but still only a game back of first!” kind of year
RE: RE: Let's skip the winging about Garrett  
FStubbs : 9/12/2021 7:35 pm : link
In comment 15362469 Debaser said:
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We did the same with Shurmur's offense on his way out. And yet Shurmur just schooled us.

I don't think Garrett is some savant, but perhaps we've replaced mediocre players with more mediocre players for the last 10 years.



That’s exactly what happened. At least I suspect the owners told Reese to go young and cheap or something given their cap and Lombardi’s what the F is gettle”s excuse?


Reese was constantly trying to patch the roster so Eli could go on another run. He got sacked before it was evident we had to rebuild. (I think Gettleman drafting Barkley was yet another patch attempt).
That was a shitshow  
AnnapolisMike : 9/12/2021 7:35 pm : link
I’ll hold off until Thursday. But there was little positive to take away from this game.
At least Peart  
Mike in Marin : 9/12/2021 7:35 pm : link
Looked really good holding his stance after forgetting the snap count and letting VM blow by him.
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