for all that money and then design ways to get him some quick touches? They had limited possessions but they never changed tempo or anything like that.
We actually started to speed things up and move the ball nicely – right before DJ's headfirst gain-3-more-needless-yards-and-risk-fumbling fumble.
have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge
have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge
for all that money and then design ways to get him some quick touches? They had limited possessions but they never changed tempo or anything like that.
We actually started to speed things up and move the ball nicely – right before DJ's headfirst gain-3-more-needless-yards-and-risk-fumbling fumble.
have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge
Thank you! I wish Jones was healthy for that Browns game with Kitchens callin the plays last year, it was the most aggressive the Giants were all last year. Garrett has called the most uneventful offense I’ve watched all day.
No sugarcoating it. Everyone sucked. About the only reprieve is that it’s just one game and they can get the crappy taste out of their mouths against 0-1 Washington in a few days.
We did the same with Shurmur's offense on his way out. And yet Shurmur just schooled us.
I don't think Garrett is some savant, but perhaps we've replaced mediocre players with more mediocre players for the last 10 years.
Shurmur's offense was a lot better than this. He lacked players but got production out of Golden Tate's washed up corpse. And it helped Jones too.
Garrett was overrated just like everything else from Dallas. Overrated. They were happy to get rid of him and haven't missed a beat since. Some people still think Garrett is somehow responsible for the development of Prescott and Romo and that's a shame.
as long as Jones can't make them pay. And thus far he can't.
So you have a generational talent at RB and it doesn't mean dick, cause no one's gonna let him get more than 4 yard when they aren't scared of the QB.
And a 6th overall QB who can't out play Teddy Bridgewater.
It's early, and I expect the Giants to improve, but as of today, I'm about 60% sure Jones ain't the guy. I see no flashes of magic. Yet he's still good for at least one fumble or bad turnover per game.
But he’s 100% right. This team blows. Mara is a problem and
Gettleman should have been fired two years ago. The pom Pom crew will lay low but this whole thing needs to be blown up. And that means no John Mara or Ernie Accorsi involved in hiring the next gm. And if the new GM wants a new coach then Judge isn’t safe either
Giants need to do something drastic fire FO tomorrow
have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge
Nope. Too little and too late. 3 and out.
What is there to lose by firing Garrett and giving Jones till the end of the year to see if he can improve under someone else ?
We know forsure with Garrett this will be a lost season, Jones will not improve, and all the Weapons DG added will be wasted
I see Jones scored the John Mara "arrow is pointing up" moral victory touchdown at the end. Good for him. Reminds me of all those meaningless Barkley receptions in 2018.
Let's call Jacksonville about Minshew...oh wait...
as long as Jones can't make them pay. And thus far he can't.
So you have a generational talent at RB and it doesn't mean dick, cause no one's gonna let him get more than 4 yard when they aren't scared of the QB.
And a 6th overall QB who can't out play Teddy Bridgewater.
It's early, and I expect the Giants to improve, but as of today, I'm about 60% sure Jones ain't the guy. I see no flashes of magic. Yet he's still good for at least one fumble or bad turnover per game.
A generational talent at RB. Please, stop with that nonsense.
have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge
Nope. Too little and too late. 3 and out.
What is there to lose by firing Garrett and giving Jones till the end of the year to see if he can improve under someone else ?
We know forsure with Garrett this will be a lost season, Jones will not improve, and all the Weapons DG added will be wasted
It's hard to disagree with that. 1 game might be a bit early. But, if after a few games, the offense looks like this, I would be behind this.
have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge
Thank you! I wish Jones was healthy for that Browns game with Kitchens callin the plays last year, it was the most aggressive the Giants were all last year. Garrett has called the most uneventful offense I’ve watched all day.
I continue to believe Garrett's offense is hamstrung by Jones's limitations. But Garrett provides a convenient out for those who think Jones is a first round talent.
Which reminds me. Where are the first round skills with this guy? He just continues to be the definition of ordinary.
We did the same with Shurmur's offense on his way out. And yet Shurmur just schooled us.
I don't think Garrett is some savant, but perhaps we've replaced mediocre players with more mediocre players for the last 10 years.
That’s exactly what happened. At least I suspect the owners told Reese to go young and cheap or something given their cap and Lombardi’s what the F is gettle”s excuse?
We did the same with Shurmur's offense on his way out. And yet Shurmur just schooled us.
I don't think Garrett is some savant, but perhaps we've replaced mediocre players with more mediocre players for the last 10 years.
That’s exactly what happened. At least I suspect the owners told Reese to go young and cheap or something given their cap and Lombardi’s what the F is gettle”s excuse?
I disagree. The OL is still questionable. But, the skill players aren't mediocre. Golladay, Rudolph, Shepard, Barkley. That's not mediocre. Then Slayton and Toney as 3/4 is also above average talent.
Wait till the finger pointing starts between coaches and the defensive and offensive players. Giants Org and MGMT didn't play the starters in preseason and this is what you get.
have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge
Nope. Too little and too late. 3 and out.
What is there to lose by firing Garrett and giving Jones till the end of the year to see if he can improve under someone else ?
We know forsure with Garrett this will be a lost season, Jones will not improve, and all the Weapons DG added will be wasted
It's hard to disagree with that. 1 game might be a bit early. But, if after a few games, the offense looks like this, I would be behind this.
I have seen enough through 17 games. Garrett is the worst OC i have ever seen. Zero creativity, Zero unpredictability, no scheming anybody open, Receivers running short of 3rd down sticks, Running plays are all straight into the Oline, Zero aggressiveness when They desperately need points,no changes in tempo of the offense . It's just awful to watch
...defense was terrible. Offense wasn't on the field a lot but another Jones turnover and just bad play calling overall IMO makes you think - WTF was this team doing all offseason/preseason.
Even the HC, who we all lean on to lead us out of that dark decade - doesn't know the rule (along with the crowd that thought fumbling the ball after hitting the pylon is some sort of turnover).
I am going to say this - particularly about a team like the Giants. They made a huge mistake not playing the starters more in the preseason.
I'll give them the first quarter of the season before I write them off...I know most of us are doing that already.
...defense was terrible. Offense wasn't on the field a lot but another Jones turnover and just bad play calling overall IMO makes you think - WTF was this team doing all offseason/preseason.
Even the HC, who we all lean on to lead us out of that dark decade - doesn't know the rule (along with the crowd that thought fumbling the ball after hitting the pylon is some sort of turnover).
I am going to say this - particularly about a team like the Giants. They made a huge mistake not playing the starters more in the preseason.
I'll give them the first quarter of the season before I write them off...I know most of us are doing that already.
I COMPLETELY AGREE on not playing the starters in the pre-season! Guarantee Judge does not do that again!!!!
I have seen enough through 17 games. Garrett is the worst OC i have ever seen. Zero creativity, Zero unpredictability, no scheming anybody open, Receivers running short of 3rd down sticks, Running plays are all straight into the Oline, Zero aggressiveness when They desperately need points,no changes in tempo of the offense . It's just awful to watch
I mean, really, do we ever run a pick play down near the endzone to try and get someone open?
WTF was that Golladay play at the goal line...run to the pylon and jump for the pass?
We did the same with Shurmur's offense on his way out. And yet Shurmur just schooled us.
I don't think Garrett is some savant, but perhaps we've replaced mediocre players with more mediocre players for the last 10 years.
That’s exactly what happened. At least I suspect the owners told Reese to go young and cheap or something given their cap and Lombardi’s what the F is gettle”s excuse?
Reese was constantly trying to patch the roster so Eli could go on another run. He got sacked before it was evident we had to rebuild. (I think Gettleman drafting Barkley was yet another patch attempt).
Offense gets a C. Defense gets a F.
Offense gets a "C" in a game where we score 7 points? Man standards were already rock bottom
Nope. Too little and too late. 3 and out.
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for all that money and then design ways to get him some quick touches? They had limited possessions but they never changed tempo or anything like that.
We actually started to speed things up and move the ball nicely – right before DJ's headfirst gain-3-more-needless-yards-and-risk-fumbling fumble.
And that was when in the game?
Gettleman. LOL. Awful drafter. SB and DJ back to back. Let that sink in
I don't think Garrett is some savant, but perhaps we've replaced mediocre players with more mediocre players for the last 10 years.
Shurmur's offense was a lot better than this. He lacked players but got production out of Golden Tate's washed up corpse. And it helped Jones too.
Garrett was overrated just like everything else from Dallas. Overrated. They were happy to get rid of him and haven't missed a beat since. Some people still think Garrett is somehow responsible for the development of Prescott and Romo and that's a shame.
But game 1 - DJ is tracking "draft a replacement"
Stats are useless sometimes...
So you have a generational talent at RB and it doesn't mean dick, cause no one's gonna let him get more than 4 yard when they aren't scared of the QB.
And a 6th overall QB who can't out play Teddy Bridgewater.
It's early, and I expect the Giants to improve, but as of today, I'm about 60% sure Jones ain't the guy. I see no flashes of magic. Yet he's still good for at least one fumble or bad turnover per game.
Stats are useless sometimes...
Same shit different year.
Gettleman should have been fired two years ago. The pom Pom crew will lay low but this whole thing needs to be blown up. And that means no John Mara or Ernie Accorsi involved in hiring the next gm. And if the new GM wants a new coach then Judge isn’t safe either
Scared shitless Mara paralyzed by fear
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have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge
Nope. Too little and too late. 3 and out.
What is there to lose by firing Garrett and giving Jones till the end of the year to see if he can improve under someone else ?
We know forsure with Garrett this will be a lost season, Jones will not improve, and all the Weapons DG added will be wasted
My 6-11 season prediction was overly optimistic. These guys blow cock. Tired of losing. It’s old.
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1 game in and I can’t get excited about anybody on this team.
Yeah I can’t tell when Barkley is in vs Booker, sad. Run blocking sucks but Barkley doesn’t look right to my eye.
Yes, but he also hasn't had real game action in almost a year until today.
Let's call Jacksonville about Minshew...oh wait...
So you have a generational talent at RB and it doesn't mean dick, cause no one's gonna let him get more than 4 yard when they aren't scared of the QB.
And a 6th overall QB who can't out play Teddy Bridgewater.
It's early, and I expect the Giants to improve, but as of today, I'm about 60% sure Jones ain't the guy. I see no flashes of magic. Yet he's still good for at least one fumble or bad turnover per game.
A generational talent at RB. Please, stop with that nonsense.
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have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge
Nope. Too little and too late. 3 and out.
What is there to lose by firing Garrett and giving Jones till the end of the year to see if he can improve under someone else ?
We know forsure with Garrett this will be a lost season, Jones will not improve, and all the Weapons DG added will be wasted
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have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge
Thank you! I wish Jones was healthy for that Browns game with Kitchens callin the plays last year, it was the most aggressive the Giants were all last year. Garrett has called the most uneventful offense I’ve watched all day.
I continue to believe Garrett's offense is hamstrung by Jones's limitations. But Garrett provides a convenient out for those who think Jones is a first round talent.
Which reminds me. Where are the first round skills with this guy? He just continues to be the definition of ordinary.
My 6-11 season prediction was overly optimistic. These guys blow cock. Tired of losing. It’s old.
1-7 by Nov 1..week 8 is in KC…
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I don't think Garrett is some savant, but perhaps we've replaced mediocre players with more mediocre players for the last 10 years.
That’s exactly what happened. At least I suspect the owners told Reese to go young and cheap or something given their cap and Lombardi’s what the F is gettle”s excuse?
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We did the same with Shurmur's offense on his way out. And yet Shurmur just schooled us.
I don't think Garrett is some savant, but perhaps we've replaced mediocre players with more mediocre players for the last 10 years.
That’s exactly what happened. At least I suspect the owners told Reese to go young and cheap or something given their cap and Lombardi’s what the F is gettle”s excuse?
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have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge
Nope. Too little and too late. 3 and out.
What is there to lose by firing Garrett and giving Jones till the end of the year to see if he can improve under someone else ?
We know forsure with Garrett this will be a lost season, Jones will not improve, and all the Weapons DG added will be wasted
It's hard to disagree with that. 1 game might be a bit early. But, if after a few games, the offense looks like this, I would be behind this.
I have seen enough through 17 games. Garrett is the worst OC i have ever seen. Zero creativity, Zero unpredictability, no scheming anybody open, Receivers running short of 3rd down sticks, Running plays are all straight into the Oline, Zero aggressiveness when They desperately need points,no changes in tempo of the offense . It's just awful to watch
Even the HC, who we all lean on to lead us out of that dark decade - doesn't know the rule (along with the crowd that thought fumbling the ball after hitting the pylon is some sort of turnover).
I am going to say this - particularly about a team like the Giants. They made a huge mistake not playing the starters more in the preseason.
I'll give them the first quarter of the season before I write them off...I know most of us are doing that already.
Even the HC, who we all lean on to lead us out of that dark decade - doesn't know the rule (along with the crowd that thought fumbling the ball after hitting the pylon is some sort of turnover).
I am going to say this - particularly about a team like the Giants. They made a huge mistake not playing the starters more in the preseason.
I'll give them the first quarter of the season before I write them off...I know most of us are doing that already.
I COMPLETELY AGREE on not playing the starters in the pre-season! Guarantee Judge does not do that again!!!!
Graham and his defense was the worst issue today. But we gonna bitch about Garrett?
I don't know what else to say, I don't even feel like getting into the details of it. I just know that this was a real gut punch.
I mean, really, do we ever run a pick play down near the endzone to try and get someone open?
WTF was that Golladay play at the goal line...run to the pylon and jump for the pass?
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We did the same with Shurmur's offense on his way out. And yet Shurmur just schooled us.
I don't think Garrett is some savant, but perhaps we've replaced mediocre players with more mediocre players for the last 10 years.
That’s exactly what happened. At least I suspect the owners told Reese to go young and cheap or something given their cap and Lombardi’s what the F is gettle”s excuse?
Reese was constantly trying to patch the roster so Eli could go on another run. He got sacked before it was evident we had to rebuild. (I think Gettleman drafting Barkley was yet another patch attempt).