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Anakim : 9/12/2021 6:56 pm
What a fucking disaster that game was
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/13/2021 4:39 am : link
After sleeping on it...good Lord does this organization blow. We should thank God each night Rozelle stepped in & handed us GY because we could be looking at Lions level incompetence since the early '60s if not for that.

Just disgusted with the performance yesterday. Disgusted. And totally expecting us to be 0-2 in less than 96 hours. YAY!
RE: That was as disastrous  
DavidinBMNY : 9/13/2021 5:58 am : link
In comment 15362854 mittenedman said:
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a game as I could've imagined. I still can't believe they ran that reverse to Toney after the bomb to Slayton. Football is not a complicated game, that playcall was inexcusable, a this offensive system is God Awful. Again, it looked like our receivers were blanketed all day.

To get clobbered by a mediocre DEN team with the crowd as amped up as possible?

Jones looked like he made zero progress, the D couldn't stop Teddy Bridgewater & Barkley looking cooked off the ACL. Even Toney looked like he had zero moves on that swing pass.

Fascinating how disastrous it was. This team had very little rope with me, and I imagine with all Giants fans.
It was awful. There's no silver linings. The only hope is With Golladay, Barkley, Toney they all are rusty and they all needed reps.
RE: Man, I just love what DG is doing!  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/13/2021 6:10 am : link
In comment 15362348 Greg from LI said:
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Full. Bloom. Love.

Can they finally shitcan this embarrassing buffoon now?


Shoulda happened a LONG TIME ago.
This Thu is the season  
rocco8112 : 9/13/2021 6:51 am : link
Drop to 0 - 2 again and the bottom falls out.

Another season cooked before Oct.
RE: Instead of  
Debaser : 9/13/2021 6:56 am : link
In comment 15363408 BigBlueinDE said:
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Complaining about the play calling, how about the players execute the damn play.


I know! This whole blaming Garret is laughable. I didn't notice anything particularly bad about the plays. Just the execution was not there. The Giants are a bad football team and have been before Garret.

Does anyone remember the Mcadoo years. The same formation and personel packages 92% of the time (or whatvers it was). It was like I was watching high school footbal plays. And Garret is to blame for this because Jones/barkley can't play. So you want to roll him out and run an rpo every down?
I’ve been to a lot of sporting events for the teams  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/13/2021 6:56 am : link
I root for and what I witnessed today was among the 2 or 3 worst performances I’ve ever seen. The Giants just flat out sucked.The Broncos were disrespecting them with their 4th down attempts and the Giants couldn’t do anything about it. While Jones will get bashed (rightfully so) and Jason Garrett needs to be shot into the fucking sun, the defense was absolutely horrendous. If they hadn’t forced the turnover near the goal line, they would’ve been run off of the field much earlier. Broncos were WIDE open on third down regardless of distance. The Giants couldn’t get off of the field.

The only positives I took from the game was that the pass protection wasn’t bad and Sterling Shepard.

Jason Garrett has to go NOW!!! There isn’t a single other NFL team that looks this bad offensively even in week one. And Daniel Jones has completely regressed.
RE: RE: Instead of  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/13/2021 7:28 am : link
In comment 15363693 Debaser said:
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In comment 15363408 BigBlueinDE said:


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Complaining about the play calling, how about the players execute the damn play.



I know! This whole blaming Garret is laughable. I didn't notice anything particularly bad about the plays. Just the execution was not there. The Giants are a bad football team and have been before Garret.

Does anyone remember the Mcadoo years. The same formation and personel packages 92% of the time (or whatvers it was). It was like I was watching high school footbal plays. And Garret is to blame for this because Jones/barkley can't play. So you want to roll him out and run an rpo every down?


They ran between the tackles incessantly. There were too many plays in which no one was open. And most importantly, Daniel Jones actually had good, highly productive games with Pat Shurmur’s offense as a rookie. He literally hasn’t had one game like that in over year under Garrett. Keep in mind, the offensive line sucked with Shurmur so that excuse is out the window. This was the least productive offense in the sport yesterday.

No pass for Garrett.
It's okay to not care about, or even really know about  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/13/2021 7:39 am : link
Problems that cause an offense to get suck in the mud, but don't bother giving the coordinator a pass because of it.

It's not an inventive offense. It's not one that helps a young QB by making it easy to string together completions. It's a very vanilla, predictable, easy to defend passing offense and it shows. Their one wrinkle was throwing out of a bunch formation with a pick play for Sterling on 3rd down and it worked. Then they went back to curls and straights.

Aside from the scheme, the in game management was poor. Nothing from kyle Rudolph. Golladay didn't get involved until late in the game. Toney got two touches and doesn't see the field again. The only guy who had success is Shepard, a man who has always known how to shake coverages and get open and doesn't need help doing it.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/13/2021 7:56 am : link
Will wait to see what Sy says but I guess 1 only positive would be that Thomas appeared to have a good game
RE: Garrett should watch the opening drive of the Rams to  
HomerJones45 : 9/13/2021 8:08 am : link
In comment 15362913 gtt350 said:
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get a clue how to use our qb , rb and wr's
He doesn't have Matt Stafford, the Rams receivers or a functional running back but sure.
There were so few positives  
DavidinBMNY : 9/13/2021 8:09 am : link
Thomas, Sheppard and Golladay late on offense played well.
That's it.
The defense stunk
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Gruber : 9/13/2021 8:09 am : link
I doubt the defense will be as bad again.
But offensively, it just looks like the same as last season.
RE: RE: RE: Instead of  
HomerJones45 : 9/13/2021 8:09 am : link
In comment 15363721 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 15363693 Debaser said:


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In comment 15363408 BigBlueinDE said:


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Complaining about the play calling, how about the players execute the damn play.



I know! This whole blaming Garret is laughable. I didn't notice anything particularly bad about the plays. Just the execution was not there. The Giants are a bad football team and have been before Garret.

Does anyone remember the Mcadoo years. The same formation and personel packages 92% of the time (or whatvers it was). It was like I was watching high school footbal plays. And Garret is to blame for this because Jones/barkley can't play. So you want to roll him out and run an rpo every down?



They ran between the tackles incessantly. There were too many plays in which no one was open. And most importantly, Daniel Jones actually had good, highly productive games with Pat Shurmur’s offense as a rookie. He literally hasn’t had one game like that in over year under Garrett. Keep in mind, the offensive line sucked with Shurmur so that excuse is out the window. This was the least productive offense in the sport yesterday.

No pass for Garrett.
Rookie. DC's didn't have a book on Jones. They do now and you see the results.
RE: RE: Garrett should watch the opening drive of the Rams to  
chick310 : 9/13/2021 8:13 am : link
In comment 15363780 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 15362913 gtt350 said:


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get a clue how to use our qb , rb and wr's

He doesn't have Matt Stafford, the Rams receivers or a functional running back but sure.


Yes, that ACL/MCL injury really snuck up on everybody in the front office.

They barely had any time to react and consider what else could be done to shore up the Running Back corps in the event Saquon's rehab took a while.
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FStubbs : 9/13/2021 8:28 am : link
In comment 15363649 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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After sleeping on it...good Lord does this organization blow. We should thank God each night Rozelle stepped in & handed us GY because we could be looking at Lions level incompetence since the early '60s if not for that.

Just disgusted with the performance yesterday. Disgusted. And totally expecting us to be 0-2 in less than 96 hours. YAY!


The Lions actually made an NFC Championship game in 1991. We would be bereft of even that level of "success".
I sort of forgot about  
ryanmkeane : 9/13/2021 9:00 am : link
the Martinez missed tackle on yet another 4th down. That was hugely disappointing from the guy who had been so good for us.
Honestly, this game was on the defense  
Rick in Dallas : 9/13/2021 9:06 am : link
Soft zone coverage
Busted pass coverage
Missed tackles
Lack of pass rush unless the Giants blitzed
Stupid penalties
Denver TE's wide open( have you heard that before)
Unable to get off the field an third and fourth downs(have you heard that before)

We wasted alot of money signing Adoree Jackson. He was plain awful yesterday.
Please play someone other than Holmes as the slot corner.
Do you think this DL misses Tomlinson??? Shelton was terrible yesterday.
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shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/13/2021 9:52 am : link
In comment 15363785 HomerJones45 said:
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Rookie. DC's didn't have a book on Jones. They do now and you see the results.


There are three rookies in the history of the sport with three or more 4+ TD pass games. It doesn’t happen often. “The book” now means they can’t pass for 200 yards regularly, let alone just two TD passes in a game? That’s ridiculous. We literally see none of the flashes we saw his rookie season.

Feel free to pretend Jason Garrett isn’t a major issue though. I’m not absolving Jones of blame or trying to say he’s a great player. But I saw him have great games. I haven’t seen an inkling of that since Jason Garrett became the coordinator.
RE: I would really like to see Jones  
santacruzom : 9/13/2021 11:49 am : link
In comment 15362381 Giantfan21 said:
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have a chance before the Giants move on from him without being stuck in Garrett offense. Wish they fired Garrett and gave someone else a chance because this offense has no chance with him in charge


That's what the theme of 2022 will be, don't worry. By 2025 the theme will be that we can't possibly know how good Jones is until he plays with Randy Moss reincarnated.
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