The only solace I take in a losing season is that I know that we'll be picking very high in the draft. It makes me hopeful that the Football Giants will draft a difference-maker with such a high pick and it'll be the beginning of the turnaround for this franchise.
Well:
2015 - Ereck Flowers - 9th overall
2016 - Eli Apple - 10th overall
2018 - Saquon Barkley - 2nd overall - and I'll fully admit that he's the only one I wanted at #2 if we didn't/couldn't trade down
2019 - Daniel Jones - 6th overall
2020 - Andrew Thomas - 4th overall
Look, every team misses, but you CANNOT miss on so many top-10 picks.
what a fucking loser pussy thread.
what a fucking loser pussy thread.
Yeah! Right on! Real men love crushing pussy and shitty football!
I actually pointed out that he and Shep were like the lone bright spots on offense, but one good game doesn't take away the fact that he's been disappointing up until now. But yes, I guess there is still some hope for him.
He didn't get embarrassed in the pass game today. Is that really the standard for a #4 pick playing well?
But it goes so much deeper than that. Jason Garrett is the offensive coordinator. Dave Gettleman is the GM.
Aside from Judge, who has an old-school nature to him, this team seems like a total organization run by relics the game of football had passed long ago.
Drafting, personnel management, playbook development, scheming, everything. It's humiliating to watch this level of shit football today.
It's a disgrace.
My vague recollection is that some Giants scouts gave Flowers a third round grade, but I admit my memory is hazy. Of course, Flowers is at least still in the league, and got a huge deal from Miami a few years ago.
Apple was just a bad pick. I understand them passing on Tunsil because of his "bong" incident, but they had to do better.
I wanted Barkley or Darnold, but I also remember that the Browns offered both their second round picks to move up to #2 from #4.
Somebody would have taken Jones before #17. This is a QB starved league. Remember Christian Ponder?
The jury is still our on Thomas.
But it's a VERY expensive bad team!! We have no freakin' cap space ... AND we suck?
Gettleman can GTFOH.
How can you pass on Aaron Donald, and still be able to get Davante Adams?!?! wow..
Think about it, even if you needed a WR that bad you could still get one in the 2nd rd. Stay safe and get defensive player in AD. Giants should of stuck with what made them so successful in the past. 2 SB wins. The trenches is key on both sides of the ball.
Hey, I'm told we needed another weapon for Jones. So Toney made so much sense.
Meanwhile, Slater was a stud today in his debut. And Wirfs is, well, on his was to the Pro Bowl.
what a fucking loser pussy thread.
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I'm not convinced the Maras aren't involved in those selections.
How can you pass on Aaron Donald, and still be able to get Davante Adams?!?! wow..
Think about it, even if you needed a WR that bad you could still get one in the 2nd rd. Stay safe and get defensive player in AD. Giants should of stuck with what made them so successful in the past. 2 SB wins. The trenches is key on both sides of the ball.
Either Aaron Donald or Zach Martin were the correct choices. We chose Beckham. Which at first looked great but ended up being a mistake.
But it goes so much deeper than that. Jason Garrett is the offensive coordinator. Dave Gettleman is the GM.
Aside from Judge, who has an old-school nature to him, this team seems like a total organization run by relics the game of football had passed long ago.
Drafting, personnel management, playbook development, scheming, everything. It's humiliating to watch this level of shit football today.
It's a disgrace.
“Old school” and “relics” sound the same to me!
How can you pass on Aaron Donald, and still be able to get Davante Adams?!?! wow..
Think about it, even if you needed a WR that bad you could still get one in the 2nd rd. Stay safe and get defensive player in AD. Giants should of stuck with what made them so successful in the past. 2 SB wins. The trenches is key on both sides of the ball.
Stop. Beckham single handily won the giants a #of football games and Aaron Donald is great but he came with risk at tbe time.
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and you answer to why the Giants are in the position they are in now.
How can you pass on Aaron Donald, and still be able to get Davante Adams?!?! wow..
Think about it, even if you needed a WR that bad you could still get one in the 2nd rd. Stay safe and get defensive player in AD. Giants should of stuck with what made them so successful in the past. 2 SB wins. The trenches is key on both sides of the ball.
Stop. Beckham single handily won the giants a #of football games and Aaron Donald is great but he came with risk at tbe time.
Every pick carries risk. There were a lit of people clamoring for Donald in that draft, me included. They didn't pick him because his physical measurements didn't fir what they normally look for at the position. Dumb. The guy was a wrecking ball in college, completely dominant, and there really was nothing left to see. That pick and the Engram pick over Ramczyk were the two that bothered me, but I'll admit, I was happy when I saw how good OBJ was. But Donald was still the better pick. He's going to go down as one of the greatest defensive players of all time. However when OBJ was setting receiving records in his first couple of years, I thought he'd be one kf the greatest receivers of all time. Really unfortunate that he took the injuries he did but also that he became a diva here.
Still, as a fan, I want to see OBJ recapture the magic.
In terms of Saquon, I think he's going to be better than ok, he's going to be fantastic, and soon. People forget this was his first game back. And he drew a lot of defensive attention from the Broncos right away. That in and of itself has value.
He also had at least one really nice blitz pickup today that I saw. But I think he was testing everything for the first time today and it's going to be a couple or few weeks until he's all the way back. But when he is, he'll be special.
I'm far more discouraged with what I saw from Daniel Birddog Jones today. Which should be his new nickname.
For him to make the jump he has to start manipulating the defense with his head, eyes, and arm (pump/shoulder fakes). It's not something I see in his game at all.
I don't want to overreact to one game, but I was hoping to see a lot more from him today. I wanted to see progress and that wasn't evident at all. There's a chance that what we're seeing is a plateau from him, hopefully not his ceiling.
If this is who he is, he's not good enough, and they will need to start identifying a replacement.
For all the talk about the OL, they were adequate today. A good QB performs and executes with what he had today. Good QBs don't need dominant protection, they need adequate protection. And I didn't see a OL that was overwhelmed today. I saw a QB that, when he had a pocket, still made poor decisions with the football. He may lack that killer instinct the great ones have.
For him to make the jump he has to start manipulating the defense with his head, eyes, and arm (pump/shoulder fakes). It's not something I see in his game at all.
I don't want to overreact to one game, but I was hoping to see a lot more from him today. I wanted to see progress and that wasn't evident at all. There's a chance that what we're seeing is a plateau from him, hopefully not his ceiling.
If this is who he is, he's not good enough, and they will need to start identifying a replacement.
For all the talk about the OL, they were adequate today. A good QB performs and executes with what he had today. Good QBs don't need dominant protection, they need adequate protection. And I didn't see a OL that was overwhelmed today. I saw a QB that, when he had a pocket, still made poor decisions with the football. He may lack that killer instinct the great ones have.
Excellent analysis here on Jones. Well done.
I know noone’ll miss me, but see you guys next week.
I know noone’ll miss me, but see you guys next week.
*A FEW DAYS LATER*
Imagine if we have two top-10 picks in the 2022 Draft and THEY don't pan out.