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Judge lost his 1st post game presser just now too

cpgiants : 9/12/2021 8:04 pm
1. Said he saw lots of positives.
2. Said he thought Saquon moved very well
3. Said Lemieux played well.
4. Said he knew he couldnt throw the red flag on a scoring play but just wanted to get the officials'attention
5. Said the Broncos are a good team
6. Said Bridgewater is a good quarterback (first win in 5 years)
7. Said the Denver offense created good matchups (we played mostly zone)
8. Said our pass rush was good today

All is not lost, but these are strange takes from a guy who usually dominates press conferences....
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Did he say that he needs to look at the tape?  
Anakim : 9/12/2021 8:05 pm : link
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I mean  
Everyone Relax : 9/12/2021 8:06 pm : link
he also said the coaching was terrible today
Honestly now is not the time to throw the team under the bus, you do t  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2021 8:07 pm : link
that when you crush some fucking cupcake - see Nick Saban and Both Bills for that.

I need to go look at it, but if he doesn't take responsibility and I"m a player I start to tune him out if the losses start to pile up. His Mr. Accountabiliyt thing then is just bullshit platitude.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/12/2021 8:07 pm : link
Saw a lot of positives? Dude is delusional.
I mean he owned the terrible coaching fail  
Giants_West : 9/12/2021 8:08 pm : link
There is plenty of reason to view this as an under performance. The offensive line protected to passer and the run blocking was not great but it was better then it was the first 4 to 5 weeks last year.
RE: Did he say that he needs to look at the tape?  
RDJR : 9/12/2021 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15362709 Anakim said:
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Sure did. At least twice.
So he forfeited a time out  
jeff57 : 9/12/2021 8:09 pm : link
Just to get the officials’ attention?
WTF  
Bernie : 9/12/2021 8:11 pm : link
that's all I have to say.
This is the worst part about today  
j_rud : 9/12/2021 8:13 pm : link
I really thought they had the right guy with Judge. I was convinced. Now? I have no idea.
Wow...  
prdave73 : 9/12/2021 8:14 pm : link
Smh.. Matt Rhule should have been the Giants HC? But that's the Giants always late and missing the boat.
Just another loser hire, by a loser organization.  
Silver Spoon : 9/12/2021 8:15 pm : link
But, he curses.
It is possible that 1 Giant played well.  
BigBlueNH : 9/12/2021 8:15 pm : link
Nick Gates seemed to be doing his job, and got in the face of the Broncos defender who hit Jones on that run. I look forward to the game review. Maybe we need to build the team around him.
So….  
thrunthrublue : 9/12/2021 8:15 pm : link
He got out game planned by Schumer who the giants and DG fired for being incompetent…….hmmmmmmmm
Very disappointed in the coaches today....  
George from PA : 9/12/2021 8:16 pm : link
After we went up 7-3.....their coaches went on every 4th down.

The Denver went for it.....coached to win game, we coached not to lose.

Our coaches played scared....after Logan`s fumble, we had to put the foot on their necks....and they did the opposite.
Today was the day my opinion of Judge changed.  
The_Boss : 9/12/2021 8:16 pm : link
Should this thing go off the rails, and I mean less than 6 wins which might very well happen, him being included in any potential housecleaning wouldn’t upset me in the least. He talks a big game, but the same issues remain game after game after fucking game…
4 is not a good look  
BestFeature : 9/12/2021 8:17 pm : link
The rest is coach speak. As someone said you don't throw the team under the bus after the first game of the season. That's how you lose the team. But yeah, 4 makes no sense. He wasted a timeout on something that wouldn't have been overturned even if he could challenge just to get the ref's attention? It sounds like it was a bit of tantrum that he threw and I'm very surprised he's not admitting to it being a mistake especially since it sounds like that he does believe the coaching sucks.
*the coaching sucked  
BestFeature : 9/12/2021 8:17 pm : link
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RE: Wow...  
japanhead : 9/12/2021 8:17 pm : link
In comment 15362754 prdave73 said:
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Smh.. Matt Rhule should have been the Giants HC? But that's the Giants always late and missing the boat.


giants had a shot at rhule. it was a money thing.
Joe Judge is just a cursing Alpha male on sideline and has no  
MartyNJ1969 : 9/12/2021 8:18 pm : link
ability to make adjustments or direct his own staff during the game. That was evident today
Giving up on Judge  
joeinpa : 9/12/2021 8:24 pm : link
That s so predictable, pathetic, but predictable.
RE: So he forfeited a time out  
Mike from Ohio : 9/12/2021 8:28 pm : link
In comment 15362731 jeff57 said:
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Just to get the officials’ attention?


It might have been less embarrassing to admit he doesn’t know the rules. WTF is the purpose of trading a time out to get the refs attention on a p,any they already reviewed?

Great accountability there, coach.
Nope.  
SirLoinOfBeef : 9/12/2021 8:31 pm : link
Nothing to see here folks.

Move along.
I did enjoy when he cursed out Holmes for his  
Jimmy Googs : 9/12/2021 8:33 pm : link
crappy play and unneeded penalty out of bounds.

That’s good coaching...
The challenge flag was a tantrum by Judge  
Mike from Ohio : 9/12/2021 8:33 pm : link
He threw it out of frustration and it cost a time-out. The only reason that didn’t matter is because of how soundly they got dominated.

Disappointing to see him not simply admit that he made a mistake and apologize. I guess excuses are part of the Giants new culture.
Poor outing all around  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/12/2021 8:34 pm : link
Let’s put the brakes ousting the HC for now.

Great opportunity for him Thursday. On the road, short week against a division opponent. Let’s see how he gets the team prepared. I think we’ll learn a lot more.
Poor outing all around  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/12/2021 8:34 pm : link
Let’s put the brakes ousting the HC for now.

Great opportunity for him Thursday. On the road, short week against a division opponent. Let’s see how he gets the team prepared. I think we’ll learn a lot more.
RE: The challenge flag was a tantrum by Judge  
BrettNYG10 : 9/12/2021 8:35 pm : link
In comment 15362860 Mike from Ohio said:
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He threw it out of frustration and it cost a time-out. The only reason that didn’t matter is because of how soundly they got dominated.

Disappointing to see him not simply admit that he made a mistake and apologize. I guess excuses are part of the Giants new culture.


I was really pissed about it. You can’t do that with second half timeouts, especially.

One game doesn’t make or break a head coach. I hope he learns from it as emotions temper down tomorrow.
RE: Giving up on Judge  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/12/2021 8:37 pm : link
In comment 15362812 joeinpa said:
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That s so predictable, pathetic, but predictable.


I called it.

Very predictable.
RE: RE: Giving up on Judge  
Silver Spoon : 9/12/2021 8:41 pm : link
In comment 15362879 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15362812 joeinpa said:


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That s so predictable, pathetic, but predictable.



I called it.

Very predictable.


What do you expect? This team has been horse shit for years and looked like complete garbage today. But, nothing to see here.
That we lost in embarrassing fashion  
SirLoinOfBeef : 9/12/2021 8:41 pm : link
very predictable.
RE: RE: Giving up on Judge  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/12/2021 8:42 pm : link
In comment 15362879 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15362812 joeinpa said:


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That s so predictable, pathetic, but predictable.



I called it.

Very predictable.


He didn't inspire confidence today. Also, he needs to fire Garrett tomorrow.
If this thing unravels, I don't mind Judge going.  
FStubbs : 9/12/2021 8:45 pm : link
I haven't seen anything to make me want to keep him.
RE: Poor outing all around  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2021 8:50 pm : link
In comment 15362864 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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Let’s put the brakes ousting the HC for now.

Great opportunity for him Thursday. On the road, short week against a division opponent. Let’s see how he gets the team prepared. I think we’ll learn a lot more.


Exactly, but to be honest looking at the schedule, I was planning on giving way more leeway going 0-2, but after that BS they better win. I think Broncos are a 10 win team this year, but that was pretty lame.
Not giving up on Judge  
Gman11 : 9/12/2021 8:53 pm : link
but he shouldn't try to bullshit the fans.

Denver punted once - ONCE until the one at the end of the game.

Denver converted 3 of 3 fourth downs and 7 of 15 third downs.
So, three of the failed third downs were converted on 4th meaning they really converted 10 of 15.

The Broncos won 5 games last season. Five. Bridgewater a good QB? He couldn't get a starting job in NFL since his injury in Minnesota.

The pass rush was only good when they sent a bunch of people which opened up the middle for big gains. They got two sacks and on one Bridgewater was just bumped and lost his balance.

Does he really want us to believe that shit he said?

RE: RE: Giving up on Judge  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2021 8:54 pm : link
In comment 15362879 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15362812 joeinpa said:


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That s so predictable, pathetic, but predictable.



I called it.

Very predictable.


I’m not giving up on Judge but I was certain he was the guy before. Now there’s a shadow of doubt. The only game I had issue with him last year was Cards. This is worse and magnified when you have all year to prep. His in game decision making was awful and he had two coordinators that were on totally different pages. I expect more from a guy that isn’t a specialist.
I am certainly  
crick n NC : 9/12/2021 8:55 pm : link
not giving up on Judge. Just a surprisingly disappointing game. He's still very young.
Judge  
mittenedman : 9/12/2021 8:56 pm : link
and his coaching staff got bent over a f#cking barrel today. We all like Judge but he better start winning soon or the walls are going to start closing in. There is now a book on him too after being a relative unknown.

I still can't get over that reverse to Toney following the bomb to Slayton. At Von Miller, to the short side of the field.
RE: Not giving up on Judge  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2021 8:57 pm : link
In comment 15362988 Gman11 said:
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but he shouldn't try to bullshit the fans.

Denver punted once - ONCE until the one at the end of the game.

Denver converted 3 of 3 fourth downs and 7 of 15 third downs.
So, three of the failed third downs were converted on 4th meaning they really converted 10 of 15.

The Broncos won 5 games last season. Five. Bridgewater a good QB? He couldn't get a starting job in NFL since his injury in Minnesota.

The pass rush was only good when they sent a bunch of people which opened up the middle for big gains. They got two sacks and on one Bridgewater was just bumped and lost his balance.

Does he really want us to believe that shit he said?


The Broncos are going to win 10 games this year. Still, you shouldn’t get handled like that at home against anyone outside of the elite if you are any good.
RE: Judge  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/12/2021 8:58 pm : link
In comment 15363003 mittenedman said:
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and his coaching staff got bent over a f#cking barrel today. We all like Judge but he better start winning soon or the walls are going to start closing in. There is now a book on him too after being a relative unknown.

I still can't get over that reverse to Toney following the bomb to Slayton. At Von Miller, to the short side of the field.


Yeah I don’t get that either, but It’s going to be a work in progress when you have two new weapons to work with.
Don’t be upset with Judge that he made a bad decision on the  
Jimmy Googs : 9/12/2021 9:00 pm : link
challenge or the presser.

Be upset that he and his coaches didn’t have the team ready to play today...
I would also throw Graham in there too  
mittenedman : 9/12/2021 9:04 pm : link
the "Black Picasso". This D never got a handle on the Broncos and should've given up 35+ points. They looked pedestrian.

You can't blame the offense either, part of the reason they were gassed is they couldn't make a stop. That was not a top 10 defense.
I don’t see Judge as the problem  
WillVAB : 9/12/2021 9:07 pm : link
But his coordinators are a problem. There’s enough tape on Graham now that his bullshit is figured out. If he keeps running that crap zone the defense is going to get torched worse than they were torched today.
I don’t think folks are giving up on Judge  
Mike from Ohio : 9/12/2021 9:11 pm : link
At least for me, I was disappointed that he made a stupid mental mistake like that. It is a little more frustrating when he then explains it was some kind of strategic decision he made. It was a mistake. Admit it and move on.

Through the last year or so, the one positive was that we found our coach. It’s still very possible we have. But this was the first time I found myself questioning that.
RE: I don’t think folks are giving up on Judge  
crick n NC : 9/12/2021 9:12 pm : link
In comment 15363064 Mike from Ohio said:
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At least for me, I was disappointed that he made a stupid mental mistake like that. It is a little more frustrating when he then explains it was some kind of strategic decision he made. It was a mistake. Admit it and move on.

Through the last year or so, the one positive was that we found our coach. It’s still very possible we have. But this was the first time I found myself questioning that.


On the money with this post.
Graham had a bad game against a good Coordinator  
AcesUp : 9/12/2021 9:14 pm : link
I'd hold off on judging him. We're playing uphill with Garrett though, he's not good enough to coach without talent. There's a reason Moore took over the offense when he was HC. Judge needs to be more aggressive in-game but I haven't seen anything beyond that to cause for concern.
Coach Parcells…..  
thrunthrublue : 9/12/2021 9:14 pm : link
He ain’t…. Judge’s fast talking car dealer cadence is wearing thin as he sells us a car with sawdust in the transmission…..BB must be chuckling having dealt two castoffs solder and judge to the giants!
Coach Parcells…..  
thrunthrublue : 9/12/2021 9:15 pm : link
He ain’t…. Judge’s fast talking car dealer cadence is wearing thin as he sells us a car with sawdust in the transmission…..BB must be chuckling having dealt two castoffs solder and judge to the giants!
I don’t think press conferences are a big deal  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/12/2021 9:16 pm : link
What matters is you watch the film, get the staff together and put your plan together. Then you prepare and motivate your team.

I do think a loss and especially a big loss is going to magnify the heat b
big time.

As bad as this loss was a win on Thursday quickly changes the outlook but it’s a big game for him imv.
Judge is just a cursing Alpha male on sideline.  
MartyNJ1969 : 9/12/2021 9:17 pm : link
He cant make in game adjustments. Also the flag throw just shows he is a spoiled coach that didn’t get his way and wanted attention from ref not keeping in mind the context of the game. Judge is now Tom Landry
Meant not tom landry  
MartyNJ1969 : 9/12/2021 9:18 pm : link
I hate typing
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