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My thoughts on Daniel Jones

EmusNYG : 9/12/2021 8:24 pm
I thought Jones played pretty well tonight. The one fumble was bad yes but I think he played much better than people gave him credit for. He had no run game to help him out, Miller was on him all night, and that play calling from Garret was just bad. Not to mention that he was obviously out of sync with Rudolph. If Garret grows half a brain, Jones gets a bit of practice and rhythm with Golladay and Rudolph, and Saquon starts to return to form, maybe, just maybe this offense will be something this year.
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RE: Lot of very biased Giant fans  
bcinsd : 9/14/2021 12:57 am : link
In comment 15363487 5BowlsSoon said:
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I’m sure those criticizing Jones already hated him going into the game so they were just looking for something to spew your hate. Rather than spew it on the defense, they still prefer to heap dung on DJ.

I’m sure those guys won’t listen to reason so this is not meant for them….but to those who are looking for a word to help put this 2nd half in perspective, here you go…..

1. Denver ate up a lot of clock in first half, so after NY ‘s first two quick possessions, they settled down and Jones led them downfield for a TD in the 2nd quarter with 8+ minutes left. Up 7-3

2. Denver had another long drive that ended with a fumble at the 4; Garrett called safe plays and we punted with 2 min left. Unfortunately our defense let them March about 60 yards with little resistance. 10-7 Denver

3. They get kickoff and March down to score on another long drive and converted a broken down 4th down pass. 17-7 with 6+ minutes left in the 3rd

4. Jones leads NY to Denver 22 and fumbles on a run at Denver 22. No doubt, this hurt, but it was his only turnover. They March down to get a FG 20-7

5. Giants start with 12+ minutes left and March down the field only to stall at the Denver 6.

6. Gordon scores long TD run, 27-7

7. Jones gets ball with 4+ minutes left and marches down to Denver 21, only to stall on 4th down

8. NY gets ball back with 1:49 left at 36 and March all the way down to score a TD on the last play….Jones runs 4 yards for the td

Results of 2nd half:
4 possessions
1 TD
2 drives end in loss of Downs at Denver 6 and Denver 21
1 drive ended with turnover, a fumble at Denver 22

Clearly in the 4 times we had the ball, we moved it all 4 times. Because the defense was unable to stop Denver, the game plan had to get hectic in order to comeback from a 17-7 deficit. The fumble hurt, but the two tds the defense gave up to go from up 7-3 to down 17-7 before you even touch the ball again were worse.

NY’s highly regarded defense just stunk today. The offense wasn’t bad but you can see all the players who missed the preaseason were just starting to get back into shape, Saquon, Toney, and Rudolph didn’t do much. Golladay came on in yhe 2nd half. I expect the offense to keep getting better as they play together more.



This is drinking the kool-aid type thought.

The D was terrible but the difference was that the D was good last year. One can reasonably hope that what happened on D was an aberration and they will generally play better going forward. The offense has been terrible for years and everyone was looking for big improvement, but, after seeing what I saw, the offense looked as bad as last year

The offense was terrible. Jones was terrible.
Not a serious chance of scoring on 2 RZ trips in the fourth quarter. The last drive for a TD was beyond meaningless! Total garbage time stat padding. Game was over, Denver up by 20 points with 1 second on clock. You count that as a successful drive and use it as evidence that the offense was effective? I'd say the opposite. It showed that the offense could only score in the RZ when the defense couldn't care less.

What flavor DJ kool-aid are you drinking?  
bcinsd : 9/14/2021 1:04 am : link
In comment 15363487 5BowlsSoon said:
Quote:
I’m sure those criticizing Jones already hated him going into the game so they were just looking for something to spew your hate. Rather than spew it on the defense, they still prefer to heap dung on DJ.

I’m sure those guys won’t listen to reason so this is not meant for them….but to those who are looking for a word to help put this 2nd half in perspective, here you go…..

1. Denver ate up a lot of clock in first half, so after NY ‘s first two quick possessions, they settled down and Jones led them downfield for a TD in the 2nd quarter with 8+ minutes left. Up 7-3

2. Denver had another long drive that ended with a fumble at the 4; Garrett called safe plays and we punted with 2 min left. Unfortunately our defense let them March about 60 yards with little resistance. 10-7 Denver

3. They get kickoff and March down to score on another long drive and converted a broken down 4th down pass. 17-7 with 6+ minutes left in the 3rd

4. Jones leads NY to Denver 22 and fumbles on a run at Denver 22. No doubt, this hurt, but it was his only turnover. They March down to get a FG 20-7

5. Giants start with 12+ minutes left and March down the field only to stall at the Denver 6.

6. Gordon scores long TD run, 27-7

7. Jones gets ball with 4+ minutes left and marches down to Denver 21, only to stall on 4th down

8. NY gets ball back with 1:49 left at 36 and March all the way down to score a TD on the last play….Jones runs 4 yards for the td

Results of 2nd half:
4 possessions
1 TD
2 drives end in loss of Downs at Denver 6 and Denver 21
1 drive ended with turnover, a fumble at Denver 22

Clearly in the 4 times we had the ball, we moved it all 4 times. Because the defense was unable to stop Denver, the game plan had to get hectic in order to comeback from a 17-7 deficit. The fumble hurt, but the two tds the defense gave up to go from up 7-3 to down 17-7 before you even touch the ball again were worse.

NY’s highly regarded defense just stunk today. The offense wasn’t bad but you can see all the players who missed the preaseason were just starting to get back into shape, Saquon, Toney, and Rudolph didn’t do much. Golladay came on in yhe 2nd half. I expect the offense to keep getting better as they play together more.




The D was terrible but the difference is that the D was good last year. One can reasonably hope that what happened to the D yesterday was an aberration and they will generally play better going forward. The offense has been terrible for years and everyone was looking for big improvement, but, after seeing what I saw, the offense looked as bad as last year. I saw nothing in Jones game that shows that he's taken the next step. Same flaws as we've seen since he was a rookie.

The offense was terrible. Jones was terrible.
Not a serious chance of scoring on 2 RZ trips in the fourth quarter. The last drive for a TD was beyond meaningless! Total garbage time stat padding. Game was over, Denver up by 20 points with 1 second on clock. You count that as a successful drive and use it as evidence that the offense was effective? I'd say the opposite. It showed that the offense could only score in the RZ when the opposing defense had no reason to care.

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