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How many losses before they fire Jason Garrett?

bcinsd : 9/13/2021 1:16 am
In my opinion, the goats of today's offense are JG and DJ. They can't fire/ bench DJ (although I wish there was some alternative - he's finally convinced me that he's a big-time bust); so its gonna have to be Garrett. His play calling is terrible and everyone can see the patterns. Run 4 receivers to sticks and have them all stop and turn to QB. He does it all the time and defenses know it and stopped it all last year but were doing it again. Slamming SB into line over and over again rather than trying to isolate him in space and make defenders miss. Why does JG deserve so much leash...?

If the losing continues and offense continues to suck, something has to change before the season is lost and fans have no reason to watch. Only plausible change I can think of that could possibly bring significant change is to change these terrible playcalling schemes. However, no matter what they do, DJ will be DJ and that problem's not going away so fast.
Schumur…….  
thrunthrublue : 9/13/2021 1:22 am : link
The guy DG got rid of for losing, out game planned….out coached DG’s new hires…..made giants team look out classed….out played….schumur, the guy who’s giants team, looked like the giants looked today! So….maybe now it’s clear that it’s DG who needs to go along with everyone he hired…
It's all theater at this point going back to Gilbride  
widmerseyebrow : 9/13/2021 1:23 am : link
First the coordinators get switched around, then the head coaches. John Mara gets mad. New mediocre players come in to replace the old. Hope in the fan base is somehow renewed year after year.
RE: Schumur…….  
BigBlueinDE : 9/13/2021 1:42 am : link
In comment 15363612 thrunthrublue said:
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The guy DG got rid of for losing, out game planned….out coached DG’s new hires…..made giants team look out classed….out played….schumur, the guy who’s giants team, looked like the giants looked today! So….maybe now it’s clear that it’s DG who needs to go along with everyone he hired…


Exactly! Shurmur is laughing his ass off at Mara as he should.
RE: It's all theater at this point going back to Gilbride  
monstercoo : 9/13/2021 2:06 am : link
In comment 15363613 widmerseyebrow said:
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Hope in the fan base is somehow renewed year after year.


I don’t really get how every offseason people get hopeful when we’ve seen the same thing year after year. Ive seen every game in this post-Gilbride era and I have to say these games are getting really boring to watch. This team just can’t score. zZZ

I guess JG will be the fall guy, but I really think it’s lack of talent on the roster that is the problem. I hope DG is out this year, but I think things will be tough for the next GM with all the money that was spent this offseason.
Mara  
SoZKillA : 9/13/2021 2:57 am : link
Won’t do shit.

He’s a stubborn moron who has no clue how football is in 2021 that was proven with the taunting crap.

He’s the first dope he needs to go, his family or the league needs to step in like they did for Mara.

He has cost this franchise.
RE: Schumur…….  
eli4life : 9/13/2021 3:02 am : link
In comment 15363612 thrunthrublue said:
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The guy DG got rid of for losing, out game planned….out coached DG’s new hires…..made giants team look out classed….out played….schumur, the guy who’s giants team, looked like the giants looked today! So….maybe now it’s clear that it’s DG who needs to go along with everyone he hired…


Or schurmur is a really really good coordinator just a crappy hc
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/13/2021 4:25 am : link
Garrett sucks. But he's not going anywhere...that's not the Giants Way, whatever the fuck that means.
If they are 0-2  
DavidinBMNY : 9/13/2021 5:56 am : link
I think they change the play caller.

Patience is thin.
I feel like  
mattnyg05 : 9/13/2021 5:59 am : link
If judge believes Garrett is an issue, he will be gone sooner than later.
RE: It's all theater at this point going back to Gilbride  
cosmicj : 9/13/2021 6:14 am : link
In comment 15363613 widmerseyebrow said:
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First the coordinators get switched around, then the head coaches. John Mara gets mad. New mediocre players come in to replace the old. Hope in the fan base is somehow renewed year after year.


Exactly. Mara certainly wants to win and I believe he is unhappy with the team, but he just doesn’t know how to improve the organization so the team resorts to PR moves to win time with the fan base.
RE: Schumur…….  
M.S. : 9/13/2021 7:01 am : link
In comment 15363612 thrunthrublue said:
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The guy DG got rid of for losing, out game planned….out coached DG’s new hires…..made giants team look out classed….out played….schumur, the guy who’s giants team, looked like the giants looked today! So….maybe now it’s clear that it’s DG who needs to go along with everyone he hired…

True, true, true!
He should of been fired after this game  
nygiants16 : 9/13/2021 7:05 am : link
After a great play by Jones, set up to get points he runs a jet sweep at Von Miller, are you stupid? if you are going to run it at least run it to the other side..instead loses 8 yards and out of field goal range..

The play calling is just horrible, no creativity, no design runs for Jones, no screen passes to Barkley, no ways to get Barkley out in space, get Jones rolling out..

It was just awful
Gettleman and Garrett are the same Mara hires  
Essex : 9/13/2021 7:45 am : link
Old and outdated and the game passed them by. Ok, the Eagles went against a crap defense fine, but they had a first year coach scheming guys open all day, setting illlegal picks and gambling the refs wouldn’t call it. We do nothing creative because our OC is a football dinosaur. It is just really frustrating
And I will say something else  
Essex : 9/13/2021 7:47 am : link
Daniel Jones was bad during Shurmur’s reign because he turned the ball over but he looked like a legit QB, something he has never looked like since Garrett came here. Maybe we don’t have to fire Garrett but someone else call plays, please.
when you lose...  
Brown_Hornet : 9/13/2021 7:52 am : link
...the way that the Giants did, you don't blame middle management.

This loss was due to a lack of execution.

The loss is on Judge.
Garrett will be blamed  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 9/13/2021 7:55 am : link
He will be fired. Nothing will change.

If the fans want new leadership they shouldnt pile in Garrett too much, because Gettleman and the Maras will be more than happy to oblige the narrative that Garrett is the problem.

It's bigger than Garrett. I cant even watch this shit anymore. I never thought I'd say that. I've watched every game since 1989.
If they start 0-3  
ryanmkeane : 9/13/2021 8:00 am : link
He’s gone
Freddie Kitchens was credited with turning Browns offense around  
UberAlias : 9/13/2021 8:06 am : link
When he took over as OC. He didn't show much as a play caller here in the one game he called plays for us, but I think it's clear JG is just not good. Jones and Slayton had promising rookie seasons under Shurmur and have both regressed under Garrett. Kitchens may not be the answer, but he couldn't be any worse.
RE: Freddie Kitchens was credited with turning Browns offense around  
nygiants16 : 9/13/2021 8:07 am : link
In comment 15363774 UberAlias said:
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When he took over as OC. He didn't show much as a play caller here in the one game he called plays for us, but I think it's clear JG is just not good. Jones and Slayton had promising rookie seasons under Shurmur and have both regressed under Garrett. Kitchens may not be the answer, but he couldn't be any worse.


He also had Colt Mccoy at QB bjt he was at least agressive with his play calling
Without improvement from this offense, he will need to go  
Heisenberg : 9/13/2021 8:08 am : link
If only to see if he's what's holding back the offense or if it's Jones. We saw too much from Jones under Shurmur to have him play like this. How can he be this limited after having some truly impressive performances in his rookie year? Did he really regress? Or is Garrett holding him back?

Giants need to find out this year because if they move on from Jones, next year is the year to do it, when they have picks to spare.
RE: If they start 0-3  
chick310 : 9/13/2021 8:09 am : link
In comment 15363765 ryanmkeane said:
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He’s gone


I was going to suggest 3 games as well.
Let's add Barkley to the list  
UberAlias : 9/13/2021 8:10 am : link
Of players who regressed under JG. Jones, Slayton, and Barkley all look worse.
RE: Mara  
TommyWiseau : 9/13/2021 8:11 am : link
In comment 15363629 SoZKillA said:
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Won’t do shit.

He’s a stubborn moron who has no clue how football is in 2021 that was proven with the taunting crap.

He’s the first dope he needs to go, his family or the league needs to step in like they did for Mara.

He has cost this franchise.


Agreed. Failure begins at the top
RE: RE: Schumur…….  
BlueHurricane : 9/13/2021 8:15 am : link
In comment 15363618 BigBlueinDE said:
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In comment 15363612 thrunthrublue said:


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The guy DG got rid of for losing, out game planned….out coached DG’s new hires…..made giants team look out classed….out played….schumur, the guy who’s giants team, looked like the giants looked today! So….maybe now it’s clear that it’s DG who needs to go along with everyone he hired…



Exactly! Shurmur is laughing his ass off at Mara as he should.


Nobody ever said the guy wasn't a very good offensive coordinator. Schurmur may well be Norv Turner 2.0
Just my opinion  
Collins25 : 9/13/2021 8:42 am : link
I think Jason Garrett was forced on judge as being an assistant with head coach experience that he could lean on. I also believe that Judge is not impressed and prefers Freddie Kitchens. I think we will find out soon enough.
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