It's easy enough to point a finger at yesterday's non-existent run game, pass rush and secondary. But such futility misses an important point.
Joe Judge and his entire coaching staff failed to get this team up and ready to play in its home-opener. The Giants never answered the bell and simply played a non-competitive football game. In all phases.
From 1964 to 1980 Giants fans engaged in an annual debate -- is it the personnel or is it the coaching? In pro football, the two are inseparable.
I don't know why, but yesterday the team never seemed to make it out of the locker room.
Agreed...
This is the dangerous cliff the this Giants team is staring over at this point.
The defense was especially putrid! They have no excuse for coming out and looking like dog shit.
The defense could stop a high school football team.
Everything is such a grind with this team. It shouldn’t be this difficult.
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Ass coaches sometimes lose their teams when losses pile up. I can see a mutiny if he’s making the team run laps as penalties if they are 2-8
I don't know why, but yesterday the team never seemed to make it out of the locker room.
Obvious to me. They need to play. All we heard on here was keep players in bubble wrap until the season starts. Well, at some point these guys need to play together. It's that simple.
Everything is such a grind with this team. It shouldn’t be this difficult.
Exactly, the Eagles hire innovative offensive minds and they get the results because of that. We hire fossils like Garrett and Shurmur to run our offense and we get the results we deserve for those hires
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When was the last time the Giants offense was exciting to watch? Just watching the Eagles yesterday, Hurts is running around making plays. The Falcons stink, but are we confident Jones and the offense would have similar results?
Everything is such a grind with this team. It shouldn’t be this difficult.
Exactly, the Eagles hire innovative offensive minds and they get the results because of that. We hire fossils like Garrett and Shurmur to run our offense and we get the results we deserve for those hires
So Shurmur didn't call a great game yesterday?
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In comment 15363718 Sean said:
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When was the last time the Giants offense was exciting to watch? Just watching the Eagles yesterday, Hurts is running around making plays. The Falcons stink, but are we confident Jones and the offense would have similar results?
Everything is such a grind with this team. It shouldn’t be this difficult.
Exactly, the Eagles hire innovative offensive minds and they get the results because of that. We hire fossils like Garrett and Shurmur to run our offense and we get the results we deserve for those hires
So Shurmur didn't call a great game yesterday?
Honestly, not really? Our defense broke down more than he called a “great” game. How many third and longs did we give up or even fourth and longs. How many mistackles were there. The Giants defense has a ton to do with the Broncos success. It was atrocious. And, if you thought Shurmur was an innovative offensive game caller when he was here or even yesterday, not sure what to tell you. Shurmur isn’t nearly as bad as Garrett but he wants exactly Kyle Shanahan either
You've also got to hand it to Teddy B. He played significantly better than DJ.
In my eyes - those are the two biggest factors in yesterday's loss.
So your take is that Shurmur was really a good OC here, but a bad coach. Ok, not Mike, but ok.
Judge was really really really bad yesterday.
Judge was really really really bad yesterday.
He owned up to that in his press conference. That is not why we lost the game though.
We got dominated on the line of scrimmage. Their bodies up front were better than ours. Plain and simple...
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The challenge flag or the non timeout by Judge was 1:20 to go before the half on 4th down.
Judge was really really really bad yesterday.
He owned up to that in his press conference. That is not why we lost the game though.
We got dominated on the line of scrimmage. Their bodies up front were better than ours. Plain and simple...
Been a theme for 10 years...
You've also got to hand it to Teddy B. He played significantly better than DJ.
In my eyes - those are the two biggest factors in yesterday's loss.
I could of played better then DJ also with so many wide open receivers to throw to!
That's what the Giants were most weeks last year. The team believed the coaching staff was doing the best they could with what they had for lack of a better term. That's why even at 1-7 they kept playing hard and had a better 2nd half of the season.
But things can go south very quickly in the NFL. When 2017 started after a 10-6 season did any Giant fan think McAdoo wouldn't even make it to the end of that year?
Judge better get this turned around quickly because if this another 2-6 or 1-7 first half and another 4 or 5 win year even he might not be here next year.
He then brings in all his college bros. VACANCY for anyone from Alabama or Georgia. It's a different level. These college boys are just got out-classed by career NFL'ers Fangio & Shurmur. (The Broncos also have Munchak at OLine Coach. We have college boy Sale.) These guys have been coaching against the SEC. What do they know about countering NFL operations?
As much as I can't stand Garrett, I wonder if he looks around sometimes and thinks "JHC". College staff vs. pro staff.
But yesterday was a shit show and that’s 100 percent on Joe Judge. Does Garrett suck? Was Barkley used right? Did Jones protect the Duke? Were the special teams special? Was the team disciplined?
See, all these things are the responsibility of Judge. The Giants weren’t ready yesterday and that’s on Judge. It’s only one game. It’s only one game. It’s only one game! We better hope and pray that Judge isn’t in over his head. Listening to Judge at the post game presser, he just sounded like a cheer leader type talking about doing better for the fans and yada, yada. Not much to say there that’s going to be well received but still the same he sounded like a lightweight.
Washington is now a huge game. Must win? At game two of the season? No. But it’s a big game. And as long as this team fails to win the pressure is going to keep building on Judge. We need to hope and pray he’s up to the task.
Jalen is not a natural passer but he played superbly. Most of the Eagles receivers were wide open and Nick Sirianni's offense deserves credit.
Time will tell if Jalen Hurts is a starting NFL QB.