1) The Broncos played like a team who had a QB competition all summer and their #1's had a lot of work before this game. I am not overly impressed with the Broncos as we clearly played poorly yesterday but, they didn't hurt themselves that entire game.
2) Jason Garrett isn't a great play caller. * I am not blaming play design but play choice here.
---- Case in point (1)- We get the Broncos to Jump and DJ hits a long pass to Slayton for 42 yards and sets us up with 1st and 10 on the Broncos 30.. Sets us up in great field position. Immediately KT comes into the game. NOW, the Broncos know he is our 1st rd pick and know what he did in college. Considering his missing all of camp they most likely know he will be relegated to quick plays and reverses. What does Garrett call but a come in motion pitch to KT (faking to Booker) who gets tackled for a 6 yard loss.
-----This was a HORRIBLE call for that moment, that point on the field. KT hadn't been on the field yet so you haven't given the Broncos any sense that you will run "normal" plays with him on the field. Secondly, all the momentum is yours and your chance to establish dominance. When you run fakes like that, or trick type plays, they are soft plays, set to catch the other team napping or gassed. What was really called for there is SB in the backfield and either a run to SB or play off him being their and a pass to one of our WR's to keep the momentum going. That play, with no lead up, no set up to it was a drive killer!
----Later on in the game the Giants had the ball on their own 4 yard line. Once again SB is not on the field. We went with Booker instead. To me this was a perfect place to let DJ run or have Penny in the Backfield with another Linemen out to try and get 2-3 solid yards on first down. Nobody fears Booker there and the Broncos sold out on that play. Seems nit picky BUT, you have to establish something there- it was mega important that we got off the goal line and bought time for the defense.
3) Now play design and DJ locking in. I am, have been a supporter of DJ and still think he can be a good QB (though time is starting to tick for even me), but he has to stop predetermining where he is going with the ball, regardless of the coverage. On a pass to KR over the middle, KR was blanketed and DJ had clearly decided to throw it to him no matter what. Plays like this to EE have led to balls being batted up and INT. ** Play design though is even worse than Jones locking on KR. They showed a reply from field level, going across the field. What did I see in the replay- 4 Giants receivers all running the same to a point and turn around-so basically we had 4 receivers at the same depth all horizontally in line across the field. That is shitty play design and a recipe for complete failure when you add in the "birddogging" DJ does. As teams pick up on his tendencies they will drop LB's back a tad and outside 1 on 1's will fade into the middle. The whole play limits DJ's options and actually creates congestion. This is a problem we saw last year with 4 crappy options all running 10-12 yards out and turning out or around. We basically create a wall of options but with very little chance or working unless the defense screws up. If they just maintain field positioning they assigned to, they will defend this play every time.
4) DJ cannot turn the ball over on a simple run forward. It sucks that it happened on a smart play to get free and pick up yardage but, it is now too common place to make an excuse for. He can't do that at that point in time. That was the nail in the coffin for us offensively. The Giants offense had to score there. Even 3 points changes the dynamic of the game.
5) I hope SB can be the guy he was BUT, he hasn't been that guy since the High Ankle sprain. My concern is how we use him. This first game I won't think too much about it coming off the ACL but, we still don't know how to use him very well. He needs more off tackle runs. Quick passes in the flat. More runs with Penny on the field as well. Right now we just don't seem to know how to use him.
6) The Giants need to stop being gimmicky in approach. These constant run a RB way out wide toc all him back into the backfield does NOTHING when you then call a straight ahead run for the back. It is a waste of fricking time. We do it constantly. Our Goal line Offense lacks identity. I laughed yesterday listening to Mark Schlereth(sp)_talk about our #1 red zone threat was missing in EE. How can you be a #1 red zone threat and only have scored 1 TD last year? I didn't see one normal play- ie standard Goal line lineups with a pass or run feel. Instead we made it obvious when we were running and very obvious when we would throw a pass to the right corner of the endzone..
7) Defensively- too much to really get into here but:
- We tackled for shit yesterday.
-- We didn't cover the middle of the field
--- We get pass rush from blitzing and brute strength, problem is if you don't get there or don't get the QB, he will have people running free because of it.
---- Carter was a disapointmnent, AO has a lot of work to do but shows some flashes and the rest were invisible at OLB.
----- I think a lot of what happened yesterday is correctable but getting pressure on the QB has to happen more and when we get there we have to tackle.
There were too many times were I could tell where he was going with the football before he actually threw it and I was watching the game on TV!
Garrett's play calling is very unimaginative. I am not sure that isn't because he is limited in what he feels he can do with a subpar line and a limited QB. Why they used Barkley like he was Derrick Henry I don't understand. There was almost no attempt to get him the ball in space.
I've been a big fan of Judge, but I am starting to wonder when the words are going to start translating to something on the field. Yesterdays game was one dimensional and the team looked completely unprepared.
On the Giants 1st and Goal from the 6, it seemed to me Jones looked only to his right, even when he had only one receiver out there and three to his left. The Giants must have liked some matchup out there, but none of those plays had a chance.
I am never going to say I know more than an NFL coach, so all I can do is comment on results. They had a chance to get back in the game there and six yards seemed like 60.
There's a reason Garrett was stripped of OC duties in Dallas. He stinks! He had success there because he had a dominant OL and a good running backs. His pass offense there was frequently Tony Romo improvising. I'm convinced Mara rammed him down Judge's throat, which will make it difficult to fire him. What a clown show!
Yep. All the people claiming that Jones played a decent game are ignoring the fact that there were more than a few balls that easily could have been picked off.
What were we thinking?
What were we thinking?
I've never seen anyone call a reverse after a deep completion. And to make matters worse, as you said, it was a fake to Booker instead of Barkley, at Von Miller and to the short side of the field!
If Garrett insists on running such a dumb play, at least run it to the proper direction!
The right call after the bomb was either another run to Barkley, or a play action to Barkley and a shot to Golladay in the end zone. What an unbelievable idiot Jason Garrett is, I am done defending anybody in this organization.
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not the D, not the DJ fumble - but DJ locking in on receivers and almost throwing about 5 picks. That is not a good sign, and not something I've seen QBs fix on the fly in the NFL.
Yep. All the people claiming that Jones played a decent game are ignoring the fact that there were more than a few balls that easily could have been picked off.
This is only one example, but if you watch this play over and over, you'll wonder how the hell Daniel Jones ever reached the NFL at all.
3rd Quarter, 20-7 Denver. 1st-and-goal at the DEN 7. Barkley runs an angle route out of the backfield and is covered by no less than 3 people. Jones never looks at anyone else, throws into coverage and the ball is easily defended.
What in the world was Jones looking at on that play?
And then does DG go down to Judge's office and go "What the F was that?"
And then does JJ go to his coordinators and coaches and go "What the F was that?"
And then the coaches go to the players and go, "What the F was that?"
I mean... who's in charge of accountability and performance in the organization at this point?
What could possibly be the explanation for that showing?
I know when I get my D kicked in at work, my bosses are in my office wanting answers....and if my answers aren't good - I'm going to be on the ropes.
This was a big game. I don't think anyone in the building was expecting an ass-beating like that. Somebody's gotta answer for it...right?
And then does DG go down to Judge's office and go "What the F was that?"
And then does JJ go to his coordinators and coaches and go "What the F was that?"
And then the coaches go to the players and go, "What the F was that?"
I mean... who's in charge of accountability and performance in the organization at this point?
What could possibly be the explanation for that showing?
I know when I get my D kicked in at work, my bosses are in my office wanting answers....and if my answers aren't good - I'm going to be on the ropes.
This was a big game. I don't think anyone in the building was expecting an ass-beating like that. Somebody's gotta answer for it...right?
I would suggest it was Judge's turn to go out and buy the coffee & donuts this morning for the postmortem meeting...
And I beg to differ on play design. I think JG's play design is even poorer than his play calling. In short yardage situations, he has too many guys running curl routes. How are they going to win those?
The three red zone passes were just horrific play calls. I mean there was no ingenuity whatsoever on those calls.
My biggest gripe in the play calling is just that. if your going to run that play do it away from the one guy who is going to set his edge and stay home .
Also I dont undrrstand why we didnt run a read option at Miller at all. Ket Jones pull it one time around his end and you maybe slow Miller down a step. It was obvious that their best player was playing against our weakest spot on the line and we dodnt scheme around that.
Coaching fails all around this mess
You have to set that up the whole game with motions and fakes and formations. You dont just plop your first round pick who is known for that type of gadgetry, and immediately do it.
It was so weak
That pass Bridgwater threw near the goal line for Denver's first score was a great play call.
It was safe - but effective.
Garrett stinks.