In my quest to distract myself from another let down, I came across this. Girl and guy travel X country in a van, going to national parks, documenting along the way on social media and poof, she vanishes. The weird part is the boyfriend makes it home, he's not cooperating and the family can't talk either. It looks like a simple homicide but how on Earth could he be so stupid? It's all documented along the way and she up and disappears? It's incredibly unsettling.
Where is Gabby? - (
New Window )
He just went out for a snack
They could go to jail for faking this too
Apparently he does not have a cell phone. So, no way to track his pings. They need to get him on gas station cameras.
Quote:
surreal, or even orchestrated/faked for a reality show or script for a 48 Hours Mystery.
They could go to jail for faking this too
yeah, I remember that hoax about the boy in the hot air balloon. both parents served short jail stints plus had to pay restitution for the search and rescue efforts (I believe).
obviously the stakes may be higher here, but it just seems so surreal and so many coincidences I wouldn't be surprised if there is something shifty going on vs something criminal or maybe not just something criminal.
@DavidBegnaud
·
7m
BREAKING: FBI says remains were found today in Wyoming and they are consistent with the remains of
Gabby Peitio. The body was found where search was going on for Gaby. Her fiancé Brian Laundrie is a person of interest in the case and he hasn’t been seen in roughly a week.
I couldn't believe that either
Can we be that lucky?
Supposedly she and he suffer from really bad anxiety and that she acts on it at times. That sounds they have had some serious blow-ups in the past
They have a video of where the Van was parked in Wyoming with a timestamp from another family touring that area that was turned over to the FBI.
Sounds about right. Or they fought, he hit her and she fell and hit her head and died, and he dumped the body.
Or the asshole just left her stranded.
Didn’t one of the cops called to their disturbance say she was having an anxiety attack about him leaving her stranded or something to that effect?
Either way there’s not much doubt he played a huge role in her death, and should rot in hell for it.
Why would he not want to talk when he got back, not help find her, and then go missing when he's the number one suspect connected to her disappearance and (now likely) death?
Very, very strange.
Quote:
Innocent people shouldn't talk to the cops without counsel either. If the cops decide that you did it, no matter how innocent you might actually be, they will do anything they can to incriminate you. They will ask the same questions repeatedly hoping that something changes, no matter how trivial the detail is. At that point, you've changed your story. Why did you change your story? Were you lying to us? What else are you lying about? They've now punched a big hole in your credibility, based on nothing of any substance.
I know, I just applied it to this case, but I am in agreement.
Here's a great video, while long, of a defense attorney talking about why you don't talk to police. He is very entertaining.
No defense attorney will say they are glad their client talked to police.
Never Talk to Police - ( New Window )
They have a history of arguing physically.
One of their arguments got out of hand, leaving her dead.
He disposed of the body, or simply left it (hence it was easily found).
He hightails it back to Mommy/Daddy, who promptly help him protect himself. (no comments whatsoever, lawyer up, help him disappear - wait several days to report him gone, likely misdirect police to the park)
Eventually he'll be caught.
It'll only be bizarre or strange if that isn't close to how it plays out.
There isn't a person in the world I'd help protect in this fashion. Would you help your kid go on the lam?
Why would he not want to talk when he got back, not help find her, and then go missing when he's the number one suspect connected to her disappearance and (now likely) death?
Very, very strange.
Yeah I think he played a bigger part too but if him leaving her there was a big fear for her and they had another fight, it wouldn’t be out of the question for this asshole to just say fuck you and leave. Playing into her fear.
Dummies up and then realizes he’s fucked no matter what he does, and has either offed himself or his family helped him vanish.
Quote:
In comment 15367607 Greg from LI said:
Quote:
Innocent people shouldn't talk to the cops without counsel either. If the cops decide that you did it, no matter how innocent you might actually be, they will do anything they can to incriminate you. They will ask the same questions repeatedly hoping that something changes, no matter how trivial the detail is. At that point, you've changed your story. Why did you change your story? Were you lying to us? What else are you lying about? They've now punched a big hole in your credibility, based on nothing of any substance.
I know, I just applied it to this case, but I am in agreement.
Here's a great video, while long, of a defense attorney talking about why you don't talk to police. He is very entertaining.
No defense attorney will say they are glad their client talked to police. Never Talk to Police - ( New Window )
Yeah, I listen to enough true crime podcasts to know you do not talk to the police without a lawyer present. But he took that to a whole other level by at least not telling his lawyer where he left her(if he did indeed do that instead of killing her.)
Quote:
I think he played a bigger part in her death than just leaving her stranded, if that is her.
Why would he not want to talk when he got back, not help find her, and then go missing when he's the number one suspect connected to her disappearance and (now likely) death?
Very, very strange.
Yeah I think he played a bigger part too but if him leaving her there was a big fear for her and they had another fight, it wouldn’t be out of the question for this asshole to just say fuck you and leave. Playing into her fear.
Dummies up and then realizes he’s fucked no matter what he does, and has either offed himself or his family helped him vanish.
He offed himself for sure. If not he will when Police close in on him.
They have a history of arguing physically.
One of their arguments got out of hand, leaving her dead.
He disposed of the body, or simply left it (hence it was easily found).
He hightails it back to Mommy/Daddy, who promptly help him protect himself. (no comments whatsoever, lawyer up, help him disappear - wait several days to report him gone, likely misdirect police to the park)
Eventually he'll be caught.
It'll only be bizarre or strange if that isn't close to how it plays out.
There isn't a person in the world I'd help protect in this fashion. Would you help your kid go on the lam?
I honestly couldn’t say but I know my first instinct as a dad is to protect my kid so I honestly couldn’t say I wouldn’t help them go on the lam.
I do know if I know they were guilty and there was someone missing, I’d somehow find a way to make sure the missing person was found. If possible somehow ease the other parents grief by at least being able to recover their child.
Quote:
In comment 15367611 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
In comment 15367607 Greg from LI said:
Quote:
Innocent people shouldn't talk to the cops without counsel either. If the cops decide that you did it, no matter how innocent you might actually be, they will do anything they can to incriminate you. They will ask the same questions repeatedly hoping that something changes, no matter how trivial the detail is. At that point, you've changed your story. Why did you change your story? Were you lying to us? What else are you lying about? They've now punched a big hole in your credibility, based on nothing of any substance.
I know, I just applied it to this case, but I am in agreement.
Here's a great video, while long, of a defense attorney talking about why you don't talk to police. He is very entertaining.
No defense attorney will say they are glad their client talked to police. Never Talk to Police - ( New Window )
Yeah, I listen to enough true crime podcasts to know you do not talk to the police without a lawyer present. But he took that to a whole other level by at least not telling his lawyer where he left her(if he did indeed do that instead of killing her.)
If you like true crime podcasts here is a good youtube channel breaking down interrogations.
For what it's worth, he should have given the details to his lawyer and the lawyer could have passed that on... maybe he did but we wouldn't hear that side I guess. Personally I think he did it.
jcs criminal psychology - ( New Window )
Quote:
from the start:
They have a history of arguing physically.
One of their arguments got out of hand, leaving her dead.
He disposed of the body, or simply left it (hence it was easily found).
He hightails it back to Mommy/Daddy, who promptly help him protect himself. (no comments whatsoever, lawyer up, help him disappear - wait several days to report him gone, likely misdirect police to the park)
Eventually he'll be caught.
It'll only be bizarre or strange if that isn't close to how it plays out.
There isn't a person in the world I'd help protect in this fashion. Would you help your kid go on the lam?
I honestly couldn’t say but I know my first instinct as a dad is to protect my kid so I honestly couldn’t say I wouldn’t help them go on the lam.
I do know if I know they were guilty and there was someone missing, I’d somehow find a way to make sure the missing person was found. If possible somehow ease the other parents grief by at least being able to recover their child.
I feel like I would be in my child's ear constantly to do the right thing and turn themselves in.
Quote:
In comment 15376835 fkap said:
Quote:
from the start:
They have a history of arguing physically.
One of their arguments got out of hand, leaving her dead.
He disposed of the body, or simply left it (hence it was easily found).
He hightails it back to Mommy/Daddy, who promptly help him protect himself. (no comments whatsoever, lawyer up, help him disappear - wait several days to report him gone, likely misdirect police to the park)
Eventually he'll be caught.
It'll only be bizarre or strange if that isn't close to how it plays out.
There isn't a person in the world I'd help protect in this fashion. Would you help your kid go on the lam?
I honestly couldn’t say but I know my first instinct as a dad is to protect my kid so I honestly couldn’t say I wouldn’t help them go on the lam.
I do know if I know they were guilty and there was someone missing, I’d somehow find a way to make sure the missing person was found. If possible somehow ease the other parents grief by at least being able to recover their child.
I feel like I would be in my child's ear constantly to do the right thing and turn themselves in.
Yeah you’re probably right and no doubt that’s what I hope I’d do in that situation but how can anyone prepare for that and know exactly how they’d react?
I hope and pray none of us ever are in that spot and thankfully I have two great adult kids but I’d be lying if I said I know for sure I’d turn them in. I’d like to think I would but can’t honestly say I know for sure I would. It’s a situation I’ve never even contemplated happening so no way I know for sure how I’d react.
Quote:
In comment 15376852 Eman11 said:
Quote:
In comment 15376835 fkap said:
Quote:
from the start:
They have a history of arguing physically.
One of their arguments got out of hand, leaving her dead.
He disposed of the body, or simply left it (hence it was easily found).
He hightails it back to Mommy/Daddy, who promptly help him protect himself. (no comments whatsoever, lawyer up, help him disappear - wait several days to report him gone, likely misdirect police to the park)
Eventually he'll be caught.
It'll only be bizarre or strange if that isn't close to how it plays out.
There isn't a person in the world I'd help protect in this fashion. Would you help your kid go on the lam?
I honestly couldn’t say but I know my first instinct as a dad is to protect my kid so I honestly couldn’t say I wouldn’t help them go on the lam.
I do know if I know they were guilty and there was someone missing, I’d somehow find a way to make sure the missing person was found. If possible somehow ease the other parents grief by at least being able to recover their child.
I feel like I would be in my child's ear constantly to do the right thing and turn themselves in.
Yeah you’re probably right and no doubt that’s what I hope I’d do in that situation but how can anyone prepare for that and know exactly how they’d react?
I hope and pray none of us ever are in that spot and thankfully I have two great adult kids but I’d be lying if I said I know for sure I’d turn them in. I’d like to think I would but can’t honestly say I know for sure I would. It’s a situation I’ve never even contemplated happening so no way I know for sure how I’d react.
Mean, certainly. That's why I expressed my view starting with the phrase, "I feel". Sitting here right now that is how I feel, but not necessarily how I may respond.
Quote:
In comment 15376878 crick n NC said:
Quote:
In comment 15376852 Eman11 said:
Quote:
In comment 15376835 fkap said:
Quote:
from the start:
They have a history of arguing physically.
One of their arguments got out of hand, leaving her dead.
He disposed of the body, or simply left it (hence it was easily found).
He hightails it back to Mommy/Daddy, who promptly help him protect himself. (no comments whatsoever, lawyer up, help him disappear - wait several days to report him gone, likely misdirect police to the park)
Eventually he'll be caught.
It'll only be bizarre or strange if that isn't close to how it plays out.
There isn't a person in the world I'd help protect in this fashion. Would you help your kid go on the lam?
I honestly couldn’t say but I know my first instinct as a dad is to protect my kid so I honestly couldn’t say I wouldn’t help them go on the lam.
I do know if I know they were guilty and there was someone missing, I’d somehow find a way to make sure the missing person was found. If possible somehow ease the other parents grief by at least being able to recover their child.
I feel like I would be in my child's ear constantly to do the right thing and turn themselves in.
Yeah you’re probably right and no doubt that’s what I hope I’d do in that situation but how can anyone prepare for that and know exactly how they’d react?
I hope and pray none of us ever are in that spot and thankfully I have two great adult kids but I’d be lying if I said I know for sure I’d turn them in. I’d like to think I would but can’t honestly say I know for sure I would. It’s a situation I’ve never even contemplated happening so no way I know for sure how I’d react.
Mean, certainly. That's why I expressed my view starting with the phrase, "I feel". Sitting here right now that is how I feel, but not necessarily how I may respond.
Mean=Eman lol
It’s not something I’ve ever even thought about until the question was posed. My first reaction was I’d do the right thing but then I thought, would I when it comes to one of my kids? Wouldn’t my gut instinct be to protect them?
I do know at the very least I’d do whatever I could to ease the other family’s pain but that’s all I can honestly say I’d for certain do.
Quote:
In comment 15376828 Mattman said:
Quote:
In comment 15367611 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
In comment 15367607 Greg from LI said:
Quote:
Innocent people shouldn't talk to the cops without counsel either. If the cops decide that you did it, no matter how innocent you might actually be, they will do anything they can to incriminate you. They will ask the same questions repeatedly hoping that something changes, no matter how trivial the detail is. At that point, you've changed your story. Why did you change your story? Were you lying to us? What else are you lying about? They've now punched a big hole in your credibility, based on nothing of any substance.
I know, I just applied it to this case, but I am in agreement.
Here's a great video, while long, of a defense attorney talking about why you don't talk to police. He is very entertaining.
No defense attorney will say they are glad their client talked to police. Never Talk to Police - ( New Window )
Yeah, I listen to enough true crime podcasts to know you do not talk to the police without a lawyer present. But he took that to a whole other level by at least not telling his lawyer where he left her(if he did indeed do that instead of killing her.)
If you like true crime podcasts here is a good youtube channel breaking down interrogations.
For what it's worth, he should have given the details to his lawyer and the lawyer could have passed that on... maybe he did but we wouldn't hear that side I guess. Personally I think he did it. jcs criminal psychology - ( New Window )
Great link. I have seen JCS's youtube before. I also agree he could have conveyed thru his lawyer where he left her but I agree with you I think he killed her
They have a history of arguing physically.
One of their arguments got out of hand, leaving her dead.
He disposed of the body, or simply left it (hence it was easily found).
He hightails it back to Mommy/Daddy, who promptly help him protect himself. (no comments whatsoever, lawyer up, help him disappear - wait several days to report him gone, likely misdirect police to the park)
Eventually he'll be caught.
.
It'll only be bizarre or strange if that isn't close to how it plays out.
There isn't a person in the world I'd help protect in this fashion. Would you help your kid go on the lam?
Anyone can say they would do this or that but until your staring down the barrel you have no idea what you would do
It’s not something I’ve ever even thought about until the question was posed. My first reaction was I’d do the right thing but then I thought, would I when it comes to one of my kids? Wouldn’t my gut instinct be to protect them?
I do know at the very least I’d do whatever I could to ease the other family’s pain but that’s all I can honestly say I’d for certain do.
I hear ya. I'm certain I would be devastated either way.
Yup, none of us have a clue what we'd do in that situation. I'd like to think I'd do the right thing-whatever that is-but I can't definitively say that.
They have a history of arguing physically.
One of their arguments got out of hand, leaving her dead.
He disposed of the body, or simply left it (hence it was easily found).
He hightails it back to Mommy/Daddy, who promptly help him protect himself. (no comments whatsoever, lawyer up, help him disappear - wait several days to report him gone, likely misdirect police to the park)
Eventually he'll be caught.
It'll only be bizarre or strange if that isn't close to how it plays out.
There isn't a person in the world I'd help protect in this fashion. Would you help your kid go on the lam?
Confession—I don't recall ever hearing the phrase, "go on the lam", so here is the origin of the phrase if anyone else is interested as I was.
On the lam - ( New Window )
@MailOnline
· 23m
FBI arrest parents of Gabby Petito's fiancé Brian Laundrie after storming their home https://trib.al/KV4IBDz
Quote:
parent. No one knows what they would do.
Yup, none of us have a clue what we'd do in that situation. I'd like to think I'd do the right thing-whatever that is-but I can't definitively say that.
I don't know. I get what you mean and where you're coming from, but I think helping cover up a murder goes beyond the realm of "protect your child." From what I've read, Gabby had some pretty bad mental health issues. Excerpts from the official police report when they were pulled over in early August are:
Laundrie said the two of them began arguing in town, citing emotional tension that had been building between the two due to traveling together for four to five weeks, resulting in an increase of arguments. Both agreed that Petito had struck Laundrie, as she was concerned that he would leave her alone and stranded in town after he got in the van.[7] In the report, the officers characterized Petito as the suspect as "the male tried to create distance by telling Gabbie to take a walk to calm down... She did not want to be separated from the male and began slapping him. She showed indications of separation anxiety. He grabbed her face and pushed her back as she pressed upon him and the van".[13][14]
To state what I hope is obvious, this of course isn't justifying murder or covering up a murder. But I'd bet anything Brian's parents were aware of what her issues are and how they were (perhaps) toxically infiltrating their son's life. That would provide motive for their assistance to him here; motive beyond protecting their son. It's reading the tea leaves, I know, but I'd imagine if that behavior was something of a norm, they would want her out of their son's life however possible.
Quote:
Now the dude is missing? This is one weird, weird story.
The bf missing isn't really weird. He's on the lam.
His nickname is "Mint Jelly."
@MailOnline
· 23m
FBI arrest parents of Gabby Petito's fiancé Brian Laundrie after storming their home https://trib.al/KV4IBDz
I don't think that report is accurate. They were removed from the house while police began searching it. They've since been allowed back inside.
link - ( New Window )
Quote:
Daily Mail Online
@MailOnline
· 23m
FBI arrest parents of Gabby Petito's fiancé Brian Laundrie after storming their home https://trib.al/KV4IBDz
I don't think that report is accurate. They were removed from the house while police began searching it. They've since been allowed back inside. link - ( New Window )
Mike is correct, they have called off the search for him in that nature preserve and instead have refocused on his parents house