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NFT: Anyone following the Gabby Petito story?

Joey in VA : 9/13/2021 10:52 am
In my quest to distract myself from another let down, I came across this. Girl and guy travel X country in a van, going to national parks, documenting along the way on social media and poof, she vanishes. The weird part is the boyfriend makes it home, he's not cooperating and the family can't talk either. It looks like a simple homicide but how on Earth could he be so stupid? It's all documented along the way and she up and disappears? It's incredibly unsettling.
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Route 9 : 9/13/2021 11:01 am : link
Yeah. Nothing strange or no foul play with this one.
damn  
Dr. D : 9/13/2021 11:28 am : link
I've got an 18 yr old daughter. This makes me sick. So much f*cking evil in the world.

Of course I believe in due process, innocent until proven guilty, but it's not hard to imagine they had a fight, maybe she was reconsidering marriage to the loser and he couldn't handle it.

I know of a young couple that went on a long sailing trip after their wedding. Just the two of them for a month or so. They didn't finish the trip and were divorced quickly. At least the women didn't disappear.

My prayers go out to this young lady and her family. Unfortunately, it seems doubtful she'll be found alive.
This  
NJGiantFan84 : 9/13/2021 1:39 pm : link
One really has me nervous about justice being served. I know its early in the investigation, but they covered such a long distance. Im assuming she is dead and the body could be anywhere. Without a body, it will be hard to prosecute.

Tragic story. Sometimes you cant believe this stuff is real. I feel for the family, not knowing may be worse than knowing the awful truth.
RE: This  
jtfuoco : 9/13/2021 2:43 pm : link
In comment 15364652 NJGiantFan84 said:
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One really has me nervous about justice being served. I know its early in the investigation, but they covered such a long distance. Im assuming she is dead and the body could be anywhere. Without a body, it will be hard to prosecute.

Tragic story. Sometimes you cant believe this stuff is real. I feel for the family, not knowing may be worse than knowing the awful truth.


It really depends on how smart the guy is when in for questioning. It already sounds like some text were sent after last contact they will ping locations and break down his testimony very few of these guys can handle the pressur3 that will come down on him.
He will probably skate  
AnnapolisMike : 9/13/2021 3:09 pm : link
Unless they find evidence in the van or he was dumb enough to leave the phones on. Even then, the chances of finding a body are slim. Far to much open space to cover in that part of the world.
This is as bad  
cjac : 9/13/2021 4:04 pm : link
As that kook Lori Vallow who killled her kids.

This poor girl was most likely murdered and hopefully they’ll find the proof to put this nut job away forever.
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NJGiantFan84 : 9/14/2021 10:33 am : link
In comment 15364817 jtfuoco said:
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In comment 15364652 NJGiantFan84 said:


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One really has me nervous about justice being served. I know its early in the investigation, but they covered such a long distance. Im assuming she is dead and the body could be anywhere. Without a body, it will be hard to prosecute.

Tragic story. Sometimes you cant believe this stuff is real. I feel for the family, not knowing may be worse than knowing the awful truth.



It really depends on how smart the guy is when in for questioning. It already sounds like some text were sent after last contact they will ping locations and break down his testimony very few of these guys can handle the pressur3 that will come down on him.


Yeah if they find the body Ill feel much better about it. But the dirtbag already lawyered up so there wont be answering questions. Every attorney will advise him not to answer anything. They need the body, and at this point, it could be anywhere given how far they traveled and the weeks between last contact and his return. Thats what has me worried, that they may not even be able to go to trial without a body.
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DanMetroMan : 9/14/2021 3:40 pm : link
“I understand that a search has been organized for Miss Petito in or near Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming,” Brian Laundrie said in a statement, according to ABC News.

“On behalf of the Laundrie family it is our hope that the search for Miss Petito is successful and that Miss Petito is re-united with her family,” said the statement, issued through an attorney.

“On the advice of counsel the Laundrie family is remaining in the background at this juncture and will have no further comment,” it said.

Laundrie retained a lawyer and has refused to cooperate with police since returning to his North Port home on Friday without Petito, 22, with whom he had been on a cross-country trip.
She is dead and he did it ...  
short lease : 9/15/2021 8:39 am : link

Not cooperating ?

She disappears and he doesn't call the Cops ...? ... He goes home?


Condolences to her family.
Dirt bag. So obvious  
section125 : 9/15/2021 8:43 am : link
he killed her. There was some kind of "encounter" with Utah police between to too. It will interesting what the "encounter" was.

Slinks back home to mommy and daddy and hides...what could possibly be wrong with that?
According to the Ny Post  
crick n NC : 9/15/2021 8:43 am : link
Gabby's mom had reached out to Brian Laundrie and his mother to attempt to get a hold of Gabby, she claimed to get no response, then immediately reported her missing. Perhaps the parents know something.
The boyfriend lawyered up immediately upon returning home  
Rick in Dallas : 9/15/2021 8:48 am : link
Really would like to get information on the Utah police encounter. The police were called by a third party to investigate the encounter....
Hopefully the van is in control of the police in Florida.
This story is not going to have a happy ending unfortunately.
We can all assume that he did it...  
EricJ : 9/15/2021 9:01 am : link
but even if he didn't do it, how the police begin the questioning would tell me whether I want to speak to them freely or ask for a lawyer.

This guy is obviously just stupid. To leave the area without her and without calling local police or calling her parents is just stupid.

Unfortunately they may only have circumstantial evidence and as bad as this looks, there may not be enough evidence to convict him. They need the body and a way to prove that he did it.
Even if he did it maliciously  
crick n NC : 9/15/2021 9:29 am : link
He will claim an accident happened, which contributed to a bad decision of leaving without notifying anyone of the situation. Certainly could be a tough case to prove.
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DanMetroMan : 9/15/2021 1:45 pm : link
NORTH PORT, Fla — The boyfriend of missing Long Island woman Gabby Petito has been identified as a person of interest in her mysterious disappearance, police said Wednesday.
obviously  
pjcas18 : 9/15/2021 1:53 pm : link
a side note to the story, but I always feel like the nature of circumstantial evidence almost always leaves open the opportunity for reasonable doubt.

Sometimes no body, no weapon, no DNA, no eye witnesses, sketchy motive, IOW no real evidence, but still conviction.

I'm not saying they get it wrong, who really knows (until and if we do eventually actually know they got the wrong guy), but I do sometimes struggle with understanding how a jury wasn't able to at least allow for reasonable doubt in many cases like I described above.

Yes, this guy looks suspicious as hell  
Greg from LI : 9/15/2021 2:01 pm : link
But the "OMG he hired a lawyer!" thing is silly. Never, ever, for any reason, speak to law enforcement without a lawyer. I sure as hell wouldn't.
RE: Yes, this guy looks suspicious as hell  
pjcas18 : 9/15/2021 2:12 pm : link
In comment 15367578 Greg from LI said:
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But the "OMG he hired a lawyer!" thing is silly. Never, ever, for any reason, speak to law enforcement without a lawyer. I sure as hell wouldn't.


the whole world before any facts are known probably felt like in unison "the boyfriend did it" so lawyering up did nothing to change that, so I agree he had little downside.

And the downside was that the family I think deserves answers at least about how the circumstances became what they were. IOW, how they became separated. If she's alive or was alive when they left he should provide the facts through his attorney and be available for questioning with his attorney present. Not get thrown in a room for 24 hours and wore down by psychological tactics designed to elicit a confession.

If she's not alive then obviously that changes things and he's in plead the 5th mode or just wait until legally forced into a tactic vs if she were alive feeling like I don't want to get this pinned on me by the court of public perception but nothing I say or do will avoid that so say nothing.

Utah police were called about them on August 13th  
moespree : 9/15/2021 2:17 pm : link
They confirmed this but would not confirm the details of the police call other than to say neither the two of them called it. The police were called on them and said there was not enough evidence to justify any arrests.

No further details who called on them or why. One reporter says he heard it was a domestic dispute, another said they were described as a "creepy couple" following people.

It was domestic  
moespree : 9/15/2021 2:27 pm : link
They released the police report in the last 20 minutes. It was a domestic dispute with no one arrested.
my comment was general, and not specific to this case  
Greg from LI : 9/15/2021 2:30 pm : link
Innocent people shouldn't talk to the cops without counsel either. If the cops decide that you did it, no matter how innocent you might actually be, they will do anything they can to incriminate you. They will ask the same questions repeatedly hoping that something changes, no matter how trivial the detail is. At that point, you've changed your story. Why did you change your story? Were you lying to us? What else are you lying about? They've now punched a big hole in your credibility, based on nothing of any substance.
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DanMetroMan : 9/15/2021 2:31 pm : link
Petito’s mother Nichole Schmidt said she received the message from her daughter’s phone on Aug. 30, when the 22-year-old was supposed to be in the middle of a cross-country trip with her boyfriend Brian Laundrie.

“No service in Yosemite,” the message read.

But Schmidt said that she doesn’t believe her daughter was behind the text.

“I do not believe the text on August 30th was from my daughter,” Schmidt said.

Asked why she had her doubts, Schmidt replied, “The van was in Florida on the first [of September]. I think I can do the math.”

Schmidt declined to comment on who she believes sent the text and whether she received any other unusual messages.
RE: my comment was general, and not specific to this case  
pjcas18 : 9/15/2021 2:32 pm : link
In comment 15367607 Greg from LI said:
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Innocent people shouldn't talk to the cops without counsel either. If the cops decide that you did it, no matter how innocent you might actually be, they will do anything they can to incriminate you. They will ask the same questions repeatedly hoping that something changes, no matter how trivial the detail is. At that point, you've changed your story. Why did you change your story? Were you lying to us? What else are you lying about? They've now punched a big hole in your credibility, based on nothing of any substance.


I know, I just applied it to this case, but I am in agreement.
I mean it is pretty clear the boyfriend is responsible or is  
jlukes : 9/15/2021 2:32 pm : link
at least covering something up. I am sure he will be charged sooner rather than later.
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DanMetroMan : 9/15/2021 2:36 pm : link


The statement, released on behalf of the 22-year-old’s parents by family attorney Richard Stafford, slammed Brian Laundrie for leaving Petito “in the wilderness” while he sits at home.

“Brian let Gabby in the wilderness with grizzly bears and wolves while he sits in the comfort of his home,” it said. “In his home!”

“Brian, how could you do this to Gabby? You selfishly remain silent while Gabby is all alone in the wilderness,” the family said. “Brian, your silence is reprehensible! We beg you to do the right thing and help us bring Gabby home.”
Seems likely that the boyfriend did it  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 9/15/2021 2:38 pm : link
But he's obviously smarter than a lot of people because he's keeping his mouth shut. If he continues to do so, it going to make it very hard to convict him unless they find a body and evidence connecting him to the crime.
How long must  
crick n NC : 9/15/2021 2:39 pm : link
Someone be missing before they are declared dead? I am guessing a long while.
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Mad Mike : 9/15/2021 3:18 pm : link
In comment 15367626 crick n NC said:
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Someone be missing before they are declared dead? I am guessing a long while.

Usually at least 7 years, though it varies by state.
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crick n NC : 9/15/2021 3:19 pm : link
In comment 15367685 Mad Mike said:
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Someone be missing before they are declared dead? I am guessing a long while.


Usually at least 7 years, though it varies by state.


Thanks
Potential  
DanMetroMan : 9/16/2021 10:29 am : link
connection to a double murder?
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DanMetroMan : 9/16/2021 12:55 pm : link
NORTH PORT, Fla. — Florida cops investigating the mysterious disappearance of Long Island native Gabby Petito said Thursday they have no evidence that a crime was committed.

“Right now, we are investigating a missing person case,” North Port Police Chief Todd Garrison said at a press conference.

Asked if there was any criminality, Garrison answered, “Not at this time.”

“At this time, it’s a missing person case,” he said.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/16/2021 3:39 pm : link
Just read it now. Sad story.
Anyone watch the full body cam footage released?  
Mike in ramapo college : 9/16/2021 3:49 pm : link
Self declaring that she is not in good mental health and being the aggressor in a domestic assault is not a good start for building a murder case against the husband.
Now appears the boyfriend is missing  
Eman11 : 9/18/2021 7:05 am : link
His family requested a talk with police as they haven’t seen or heard from him since Tuesday.

Man I hope this whole thing is some dumb type of staged setup by the couple to get attention or something, but it’s sure playing out like a tragedy for both their families.
I would say the boyfriend is now hiding instead of missing....  
Rick in Dallas : 9/18/2021 7:33 am : link
He knows exactly what happened!!!
I wouldn't be surprised  
fkap : 9/18/2021 7:49 am : link
if there was a recent large withdrawal from the parents savings account.


"Bye son, have fun in Argentina"
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/18/2021 10:11 am : link
Now the dude is missing? This is one weird, weird story.
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Producer : 9/18/2021 10:12 am : link
In comment 15375286 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Now the dude is missing? This is one weird, weird story.


The bf missing isn't really weird. He's on the lam.
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Route 9 : 9/18/2021 10:30 am : link
In comment 15375286 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Now the dude is missing? This is one weird, weird story.


He just went out for a snack
I’m  
Les in TO : 9/18/2021 11:10 am : link
Surprised he wasn’t under constant surveillance.
This is starting to seem  
pjcas18 : 9/18/2021 1:12 pm : link
surreal, or even orchestrated/faked for a reality show or script for a 48 Hours Mystery.
Outlandish  
Joey in VA : 9/18/2021 1:34 pm : link
Theory, but in the cop cam footage she mentioned quitting her job to be a blogger full time. She's all unstable and shaky, the boyfriend has a welt over his eye, then she vanishes? Maybe, maybe a wild publicity stunt? Everyone knows who she is now and if found safe she's going to rake it in doing interviews about her ordeal.
If he dies..  
Jim in Forest Hills : 9/18/2021 2:26 pm : link
and they never find her, man that family will suffer forever
I have been ignoring this story but this just popped up on my feed  
Big Al : 9/19/2021 4:59 pm : link
“Body found where Gabby Petito search is underway in Wyoming, no confirmation of identity.”
RE: This is starting to seem  
EricJ : 9/19/2021 5:03 pm : link
In comment 15375481 pjcas18 said:
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surreal, or even orchestrated/faked for a reality show or script for a 48 Hours Mystery.


They could go to jail for faking this too
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EricJ : 9/19/2021 5:04 pm : link
In comment 15375352 Les in TO said:
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Surprised he wasn’t under constant surveillance.


Apparently he does not have a cell phone. So, no way to track his pings. They need to get him on gas station cameras.
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pjcas18 : 9/19/2021 5:22 pm : link
In comment 15376539 EricJ said:
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In comment 15375481 pjcas18 said:


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surreal, or even orchestrated/faked for a reality show or script for a 48 Hours Mystery.



They could go to jail for faking this too


yeah, I remember that hoax about the boy in the hot air balloon. both parents served short jail stints plus had to pay restitution for the search and rescue efforts (I believe).

obviously the stakes may be higher here, but it just seems so surreal and so many coincidences I wouldn't be surprised if there is something shifty going on vs something criminal or maybe not just something criminal.

A body has been recovered in  
eli4life : 9/19/2021 5:57 pm : link
Grand Teton National park. They could not confirm yet if it’s her
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pjcas18 : 9/19/2021 6:23 pm : link
David Begnaud
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BREAKING: FBI says remains were found today in Wyoming and they are consistent with the remains of
Gabby Peitio. The body was found where search was going on for Gaby. Her fiancé Brian Laundrie is a person of interest in the case and he hasn’t been seen in roughly a week.
They're going to find that the asshole boyfriend  
montanagiant : 9/19/2021 6:26 pm : link
Has killed himself.
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