Serious Saquon question

why are we not designing plays to get him in space? why are we running him up the middle every play?

that he is a between the tackles runner. Never was. He's a big home run hitting scat back, and needs to be utilized as such. they don't get it. Neither did the previous regime.

when you don't have a good line or anything else on offense.

In comment 15364193 Dave on the UWS said:

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that he is a between the tackles runner. Never was. He's a big home run hitting scat back, and needs to be utilized as such. they don't get it. Neither did the previous regime.

This and this is yet another reason why he was a bad pick at 2. He is kind of a weapon, but it is hard to rely on him for offensive efficiency, which is the modern NFL.

Sequon is a back that will run 20 plays under one yard and then have a couple of large garbage time runs to inflate his stats. Not sure why he is consistently lined up 8 yards deep to run full speed and dance before he hits the whole. If you watch the all 22, you will see there were holes that gallman would have ran through last year that he put the breaks on and skipped into a tackle. It has been like this since his injury at TB his second year.

In comment 15364230 Giants73 said:

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Sequon is a back that will run 20 plays under one yard and then have a couple of large garbage time runs to inflate his stats. Not sure why he is consistently lined up 8 yards deep to run full speed and dance before he hits the whole. If you watch the all 22, you will see there were holes that gallman would have ran through last year that he put the breaks on and skipped into a tackle. It has been like this since his injury at TB his second year.

yep. there were definitely holes that he missed. between his running style, his inability to pick up the blitz and inability to stay on the field he is a liability. I love the guy but that pick set us back.

You don’t succeed off roading with a Ferrari…..

Problem is he wants to bounce outside and he doesn’t have the burst. Maybe it will come back, maybe he was still injured when he came back his second year. But the ran the play around the right end for him that both gallman and old man Morris were able to run consistently for 5-10 yards and got stuffed. Watch it back and you see about a yard before contact or he wants to cut he constantly skips.

There's very rarely a clear hole to run through. You have to set things up, power through traffic, grind and make something happen on your own.

Barkley actually looks like a poor overall RB, and absolutely reminds me of Reggie Bush at this point. It's the perfect comparison.

many times we appeared to have Gordon & Williams bottled up, but they'd grind the play out and end up with good yardage. It's a dogfight and you have to be crazy tough to play pro football.

barkley got injured. i know he hasn't played in a year and i'm sure that doesn't help, but he was dogshit yesterday. a complete non-factor. how much of that is on the OL? tough to say. the OL was not great in 2018 or 19 either.

Are you saying those backs are better than Barkley? I'm not saying I disagree, but I wonder how it could be that even Gallman, with all his faults and inability to hit the "homerun," can look considerably better behind the same line.

It's tough to run the ball when the defense knows it is coming, and you are not the kind of team/runner that can simply overpower anyone.

The play calling yesterday was overly predictable. It's tough to beat a good defense when they know what to expect and still get it.

Ends up putting the team in 2nd and long, then garret thinks he will be creative by running a bad draw or reverse and make it 3rd and longer.
Saquon needs to take what’s there and once in awhile he can get a HR off the second level

The run blocking isn’t there.

And just ran straight into the pile without vision (ala David Wilson). But at least he gained 1-2 yards doing that instead of a loss. He also fought for a 1st down doing that (I believe it was a 3rd down draw), so at least that's a positive. Yes it was a shitshow, but I'm trying to see some silver linings in this pile of shit.

I thought Barkley ran hard, pushed the ball numerous times, and didn't dance at all. There were no holes in the assigned holes the play was supposed to go (even on the 22 view). Holes were other places, as they always are because the D is chasing the RB, but as a RB you hit the proper hole first or you don't play. This is what he did. If he started hesitating "dancing" and tried to find another open hole the same people here would be bashing him for dancing.

Also its pure speculation to say that Gallman would have hit the magical holes better. There is nothing anywhere to support that. Gallman was not resigned here, then released from his next team (so they weren't impressed either), and now is clinging to NFL life on his third team as a 3rd or 4th string RB. Please stop with the Gallman comparison, he is not and never has been a starting RB.

As if he was afraid to reinjure himself. He always ran scared of injury but yesterday was a very whimpy performance. His body language supported that feeling also.

I knew exactly what you were getting in Barkley, which is why I never wanted him at #2

He is a home run hitter, not a consistent move the chains guy.

In comment 15364282 mittenedman said:

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There's very rarely a clear hole to run through. You have to set things up, power through traffic, grind and make something happen on your own. Barkley actually looks like a poor overall RB, and absolutely reminds me of Reggie Bush at this point. It's the perfect comparison.

Agreed. All hat no cattle.

In comment 15364495 joeinpa said:

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I knew exactly what you were getting in Barkley, which is why I never wanted him at #2 He is a home run hitter, not a consistent move the chains guy.

Didn’t he also play with an option QB who got him the ball on the outside a lot. Sorry if that’s a totally stupid question, I just don’t watch much cf and rarely PSU.

In comment 15364182 Justlurking said:

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why are we not designing plays to get him in space? why are we running him up the middle every play?

If we're going to continue to use him the same way we would use every other running back in the league, why not just trade him to the Ravens?

In comment 15364643 santacruzom said:

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In comment 15364182 Justlurking said: Quote: why are we not designing plays to get him in space? why are we running him up the middle every play? If we're going to continue to use him the same way we would use every other running back in the league, why not just trade him to the Ravens?

Oh goodness, he and Jackson would be savage on the opposition.

In comment 15364182 Justlurking said:

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why are we not designing plays to get him in space? why are we running him up the middle every play?

he's the only player on our offense who scares anyone. They don't let him get to open space. Someone else on the o has to start winning their matchups and they are incapable.