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Giants PFF Grades

CMicks3110 : 9/13/2021 11:04 am
Remember 60.0 is the baseline starting point for every game.

Offense:

Good:
Shepard 79.2
Golladay 77.7
Lemieux 69.0
Thomas 68.2 (80 in Pass Protection)
Gates 66.5

Bad
Hernandez 47.8
Barkley 53.1
Rudolph 47.5

Defense

Good:
Logan Ryan 90.4
Williams 77.6
Lawrence 74.0
Johnson 77.5


Bad:
Jackson 51.3
Martinez 49.9
McKinney 45.2







No Jones grade?  
bw in dc : 9/13/2021 11:07 am : link
BTW, the OL was actually solid yesterday in PP. So not surprised by a few of these decent grades.
good to see Thomas had a good game  
Platos : 9/13/2021 11:09 am : link
i couldn't tell from my seat as me and my friends were steamed over paying good money to see such a shitty team in a shitty stadium lol

was anyone else in section 126? i apologize for my drunk friend.
Who cares about these grades  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/13/2021 11:10 am : link
? Tough to rate players when their coaches didn't put them in a position to win.
Our whole starting DL got good grades  
BillT : 9/13/2021 11:11 am : link
But they ran all over us and we got no pressure. How does that work?
I understand  
Everyone Relax : 9/13/2021 11:16 am : link
a 79.2 is a good grade, but come on, Shep played his heart out (with the stats to back it up) and if that only warrants a 79 then I dont know what these guys are looking at.
I'm rewatching painfully  
Joey in VA : 9/13/2021 11:17 am : link
And with the emotions gone, we had Teddy dead to rights and running around and he simply played his ass off, as did everyone who touched the ball. The TD at the end of the first half was an inch away from a sack, an incompletion and being down at the one, they just had a little bit more of... it yesterday. The Patrick TD was the same thing, we were a step slow on both sides all day. We came out far hungrier last year against the Steelers with zero preseason games. We have two joint practices and three games and we looked flat.

Is it possible this team was shuttled around a bit too much? Trip to Newark for fan day, trips to CLE and NE for practice. Maybe it was too much down time from the end of the preseason until the first game? It's usually the next week after the preseason finale. Something was definitely just off with the entire team yesterday.
Thomas  
Toth029 : 9/13/2021 11:17 am : link
Had a great game.

He has this stigma attached to his name now unfortunately so Giants fans and non fans feel he's a bad player and pick because of some rough 2020 games.

It's ridiculous.
RE: Our whole starting DL got good grades  
GoDeep13 : 9/13/2021 11:18 am : link
In comment 15364232 BillT said:
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But they ran all over us and we got no pressure. How does that work?
Zo and Azeez not setting the Edges. Something Kwity Paye was known for…
RE: Our whole starting DL got good grades  
shadow_spinner0 : 9/13/2021 11:23 am : link
In comment 15364232 BillT said:
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But they ran all over us and we got no pressure. How does that work?


PFF likes to grade each player individually and in a vacuum
RE: RE: Our whole starting DL got good grades  
Toth029 : 9/13/2021 11:25 am : link
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But they ran all over us and we got no pressure. How does that work?

Zo and Azeez not setting the Edges. Something Kwity Paye was known for…


Seahawks ran all over the Colts, too.
RE: RE: RE: Our whole starting DL got good grades  
GoDeep13 : 9/13/2021 11:30 am : link
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But they ran all over us and we got no pressure. How does that work?

Zo and Azeez not setting the Edges. Something Kwity Paye was known for…



Seahawks ran all over the Colts, too.
Not really. They got a a good chuck of their rushing yards near the end. It was Russell Wilson tossing 4TDs that killed them. Him and Lockett
RE: RE: Our whole starting DL got good grades  
BigBlueShock : 9/13/2021 11:33 am : link
In comment 15364247 GoDeep13 said:
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But they ran all over us and we got no pressure. How does that work?

Zo and Azeez not setting the Edges. Something Kwity Paye was known for…

Paye had all of two tackles yesterday on a defense that gave up 143 yards rushing. Not sure why you’re usuhim as some great example other than your probably trying to somehow pat yourself on the back for wanting him in the draft?
RE: No Jones grade?  
Mad Mike : 9/13/2021 11:36 am : link
In comment 15364219 bw in dc said:
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BTW, the OL was actually solid yesterday in PP. So not surprised by a few of these decent grades.

Jones got a 65.1. 70 for passing, 41 for rushing.
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Lemieux didn't see the field after the first quarter  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/13/2021 12:15 pm : link
but he was one of the best OL?

Ok, thanks PFF. Sterling analysis.
RE: Our whole starting DL got good grades  
islander1 : 9/13/2021 12:55 pm : link
In comment 15364232 BillT said:
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But they ran all over us and we got no pressure. How does that work?


No they didn't.

They got one big play - a 70 yard TD run. They got three yards a carry the rest of the time. Considering how long they were on the field, it's not bad work.

As far as pressure, I'm not sure what three players are supposed to do against six blockers. A 3-4 implies you actually have good linebackers, right? Our linebackers can be nullified by a damn running back in pass protect.
So they are pinning the TD on Jackson  
rasbutant : 9/13/2021 12:59 pm : link
Even though it was obvious he thought he had safety help.

I thought he played well when I noticed him, even made some hard nose tackles which I didn’t expect from him.

Most the trouble was in the zone coverage and I couldn’t begin to pretend I know who is at fault for that.
RE: So they are pinning the TD on Jackson  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/13/2021 1:02 pm : link
In comment 15364537 rasbutant said:
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Even though it was obvious he thought he had safety help.

I thought he played well when I noticed him, even made some hard nose tackles which I didn’t expect from him.

Most the trouble was in the zone coverage and I couldn’t begin to pretend I know who is at fault for that.


He got absolutely TOASTED on the TD drop.
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