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Thoughts on final touchdown.

bcinsd : 9/13/2021 11:07 am
I was so pissed during game that I was screaming for them to just take a knee and end game. What is the point of scoring with one second left when they game is totally out of reach and the D has stopped trying? Does that make the team feel better? Statistic padding? Make loss look less bad?

One could argue that you always try to score, no matter how badly you are losing, but I thought it was putting "lipstick on a pig"
I had the game turned off, but  
Blue The Dog : 9/13/2021 11:12 am : link
I'm sure there is some dude in a 3 QB fantasy league or something like that and had to start Jones. He probably enjoyed it
I thought it was silly to risk injury at that point  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/13/2021 11:16 am : link
...but whatever, maybe Judge thought the team needed the reps.
At that point it is practice  
jvm52106 : 9/13/2021 11:21 am : link
and for us, all the work we can get is needed.
My fantasy opponent played his Denver defense this week  
Jimmy Googs : 9/13/2021 11:24 am : link
so I actually won by a single point because of that late Giant TD.

That is about the best I can say as to being pleased with the Giants today...
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Go Terps : 9/13/2021 11:26 am : link
That late touchdown is the backbone of this current Giants era...a sign that maybe the arrow is pointing up.

At the end of this season the front office and many fans will point to Jones's rushing contributions as a reason that he may finally explode in year 4, and that touchdown will be pretty of the stats to support the argument.
*part of the stats  
Go Terps : 9/13/2021 11:27 am : link
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giving up  
Ron Johnson : 9/13/2021 11:27 am : link
is a hard habit to break.
RE: giving up  
bcinsd : 9/13/2021 11:54 am : link
In comment 15364266 Ron Johnson said:
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is a hard habit to break.


I don't call it giving up when you are behind by 20 with one second left. To me, taking a knee would be a point to your players that a final second touchdown in a blowout is meaningless and they not take anything positive away from that last drive that made the score look a little better after a completely disgraceful showing.

Offensive stats for this game will look closer when people look back in a couple of months. Some will say DJ didn't play that bad - 2:1 TD to turnover ratio. This loss was much wore than score. Giants got a lot of breaks including Ryan fumble recovery (could easily have been overturned and no doubt Broncos would have scored TD) and Denver D dropping an easy INT or 2.

A 35-7 score would have a better reflection of what happened out there.
RE: .  
Blue21 : 9/13/2021 11:56 am : link
In comment 15364262 Go Terps said:
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That late touchdown is the backbone of this current Giants era...a sign that maybe the arrow is pointing up.

At the end of this season the front office and many fans will point to Jones's rushing contributions as a reason that he may finally explode in year 4, and that touchdown will be pretty of the stats to support the argument.



The front office may so this but I guarantee you fans like myself (who I think are most) who are/were willing to give him this year will be off the bandwagon like it's on fire. We'll know I think before midway threw this year. He lost a lot of support yesterday. I who have remained in the " I don't know for sure whether he will or will not be the future QB" camp took a slide further to the back after the fumble yesterday. I don't even blame him for the loss. The D was horrible. But the fumble? Another story.
The second half of that game became their defacto  
Mike from Ohio : 9/13/2021 11:56 am : link
pre-season. It was the first opportunity for many of those guys to go against a live defense in a game setting.
RE: giving up  
Carson53 : 9/13/2021 12:07 pm : link
In comment 15364266 Ron Johnson said:
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is a hard habit to break.
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Maybe Tom Coughlin was in the room...Actually I had stopped
watching by that point. I stopped watching before Gordon's
70 yard run. (Although unfortunately saw it on NFL RZ).
Its the same reason that teams punt inside the 40 when they shouldn't.  
mikeinbloomfield : 9/13/2021 12:11 pm : link
It is better to "follow the book" then almost anything else. No one gets fired for being too conservative in the NFL.

Scoring that last TD is in "the book" as sending the "never give up" message, but had Jones or Barkley gotten hurt, the Giants would have been worse off.
No team in the history of football at any level - HS, college or pros  
BigBlueNH : 9/13/2021 2:38 pm : link
has ever taken a knee to close out a game WHEN THEY ARE LOSING. It is the ultimate sign of a LOSER.

Should a basketball team which is down 20 with 3 minutes to play just walk up the court, hold the ball for 24 seconds and then hand it to the ref?
They needed the practice  
5BowlsSoon : 9/13/2021 2:45 pm : link
All of those skilled guys save Shep have not done much and have to be rusty. I was glad to give them work….that drive was like preseason for them. I’m tired of worrying about their health….they need to work hard, not hold clipboards.
Jones just can't help but score touchdowns.  
BrettNYG10 : 9/13/2021 2:46 pm : link
Born with it.
RE: No team in the history of football at any level - HS, college or pros  
bcinsd : 9/13/2021 3:01 pm : link
In comment 15364806 BigBlueNH said:
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has ever taken a knee to close out a game WHEN THEY ARE LOSING. It is the ultimate sign of a LOSER.

Should a basketball team which is down 20 with 3 minutes to play just walk up the court, hold the ball for 24 seconds and then hand it to the ref?



More honorable than merely padding stats, if you ask me. That was much worse than being behind by 20 with 3 minutes left in BB game. There literally was 1 second on the clock. It allows players and coaches a false narrative about the game ("we fought to the end" "if only we'd done the same earlier", "we just needed more time" "we showed heart in the end" etc). They were drubbed much worse than score and DJ was much worse than his stats. But excuse makers will use these garbage stats to claim that it wasn't as bad as we all saw it was.
RE: No team in the history of football at any level - HS, college or pros  
Brown_Hornet : 9/13/2021 3:02 pm : link
In comment 15364806 BigBlueNH said:
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has ever taken a knee to close out a game WHEN THEY ARE LOSING. It is the ultimate sign of a LOSER.

Should a basketball team which is down 20 with 3 minutes to play just walk up the court, hold the ball for 24 seconds and then hand it to the ref?
Thank you.
RE: No team in the history of football at any level - HS, college or pros  
rsjem1979 : 9/13/2021 3:04 pm : link
In comment 15364806 BigBlueNH said:
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has ever taken a knee to close out a game WHEN THEY ARE LOSING. It is the ultimate sign of a LOSER.

Should a basketball team which is down 20 with 3 minutes to play just walk up the court, hold the ball for 24 seconds and then hand it to the ref?


A basketball team down 20 with 3 minutes left doesn't have their starters in the game, and at the end of the year, nobody is going to look at the stats for the 12th man.
RE: RE: No team in the history of football at any level - HS, college or pros  
Brown_Hornet : 9/13/2021 3:05 pm : link
In comment 15364877 bcinsd said:
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In comment 15364806 BigBlueNH said:


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has ever taken a knee to close out a game WHEN THEY ARE LOSING. It is the ultimate sign of a LOSER.

Should a basketball team which is down 20 with 3 minutes to play just walk up the court, hold the ball for 24 seconds and then hand it to the ref?




More honorable than merely padding stats, if you ask me. That was much worse than being behind by 20 with 3 minutes left in BB game. There literally was 1 second on the clock. It allows players and coaches a false narrative about the game ("we fought to the end" "if only we'd done the same earlier", "we just needed more time" "we showed heart in the end" etc). They were drubbed much worse than score and DJ was much worse than his stats. But excuse makers will use these garbage stats to claim that it wasn't as bad as we all saw it was.

Actually, quitting is poor sportsmanship.
The Giants were bad on Sunday, thankfully they weren't poor sports.

"take a fucking knee?" get the fuckouttahere!
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