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Breeze_94 : 9/13/2021 11:11 am
- Our WR group is legit. Shepard looks outstanding, Golladay made some incredible catches. Hoping Toney can make an impact once integrated and replace Slayton eventually.

- 4/5ths of the Oline looked solid. Thomas played a clean game. Bredeson looks like a find. Hernandez held up well in pass pro. Gates is our best OL.

- Leonard Williams is still a force.

- McKinney looks like a player. He plays at a different speed back there.

- Saquon looked like he doesn’t quite have his legs completely under him yet. But he made a couple of cuts that looked like Saquon of old. Thought it was a positive sign despite him not really getting going in this game.
i was expecting a blank post  
GiantsFan84 : 9/13/2021 11:21 am : link
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It didn’t  
map7711 : 9/13/2021 11:27 am : link
Rain……..
Only 16 more games to endure  
endwerc : 9/13/2021 11:29 am : link
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we're  
Ron Johnson : 9/13/2021 11:29 am : link
still in the NFC east.
didn't golladay have one catch until the game was completely out of  
japanhead : 9/13/2021 11:29 am : link
reach in the fourth quarter? not sure i took away any positives from the offense other than that shepard had a decent first half.
RE: i was expecting a blank post  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 9/13/2021 11:30 am : link
In comment 15364255 GiantsFan84 said:
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dallas lost, washington lost, chicago lost That's about it.
I got to eat Luganega  
Joey in VA : 9/13/2021 11:31 am : link
During the game and I drank like a Lannister.
I really don't think the players were the problem yesterday  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/13/2021 11:32 am : link
the coaching was putrid.
We got our loss...  
Brown_Hornet : 9/13/2021 11:33 am : link
...out of the way early!

Smooth sailin' the rest of the way boys!
RE: I really don't think the players were the problem yesterday  
jvm52106 : 9/13/2021 11:35 am : link
In comment 15364281 Zeke's Alibi said:
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the coaching was putrid.
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That sounds stupid.. So missing a tackle on a 4th down play is coaching? Fumbling the ball on a run is coaching? Blow to the head of the QB for 15 yards is coaching?

There were a lot of coaching choices that added to the issues but the players failed miserably yesterday.
Biggest positive is  
Jimmy Googs : 9/13/2021 11:36 am : link
we will continue to play within the NFC East all season...

No major  
pjcas18 : 9/13/2021 11:37 am : link
injuries?
RE: No major  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 9/13/2021 11:39 am : link
In comment 15364291 pjcas18 said:
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injuries?


Right, we could have been the jests with their left tackle carted off. And they also allowed 6 sacks.
There were some individual  
Dave on the UWS : 9/13/2021 11:43 am : link
positives.
The team, however, was unprepared. The game plans were terrible (soft zone with 2 press corners??)
The execution all around was sub standard.
There better be some MASSIVE improvement REAL fast or this will be another lost season.
RE: didn't golladay have one catch until the game was completely out of  
Dr. D : 9/13/2021 11:43 am : link
In comment 15364274 japanhead said:
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reach in the fourth quarter? not sure i took away any positives from the offense other than that shepard had a decent first half.

He was only targeted once in the first half. And then not again until late in the 3rd Q. I haven't no f*cking clue why.
RE: didn't golladay have one catch until the game was completely out of  
terz22 : 9/13/2021 11:44 am : link
In comment 15364274 japanhead said:
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reach in the fourth quarter? not sure i took away any positives from the offense other than that shepard had a decent first half.


Not really true had a nice contested catch and drew the DPI when the game wasn't totally out of reach.
RE: We got our loss...  
Dr. D : 9/13/2021 11:45 am : link
In comment 15364286 Brown_Hornet said:
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...out of the way early!

Smooth sailin' the rest of the way boys!

Ha! I (jokingly) thought of that too!
McKinney got like a 44 rating from PFF  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/13/2021 11:48 am : link
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Well...  
PEEJ : 9/13/2021 11:49 am : link
no one got injured. Is that a plus?
OL looked solid?  
jeff57 : 9/13/2021 11:51 am : link
What game were you watching. Didn’t open up a hole all game.
.......  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 9/13/2021 11:53 am : link
Autumn is my favorite season.

Looks like I may not need to be worried about being glued to a tv when I could be outside :)
I can't think of anything that made me think  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/13/2021 11:55 am : link
we are on our way to a good season. Unfortunate.

RE: I got to eat Luganega  
Ron Johnson : 9/13/2021 11:56 am : link
In comment 15364279 Joey in VA said:
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During the game and I drank like a Lannister.


did you pay your debt?
Team just needs  
TheBlueprintNC : 9/13/2021 11:57 am : link
to practice and play together. Joe didnt become a fool and Graham didnt forget how to do D..

Eric said it best, they never all practiced together. so this is what we got. give it 4 games and practices and we will know what this team is. IMO Too much talent on roster now, will come together quickly. Yesterday same offense like last yr. D first time full complement of players playing together. DJ first time working together with OL and New Weapons -fumble deja vu ELI lol, BUT notice he learned. Nxt 2-3 x slid, protected ball much better. Dan will be getting much better quickly. He looked strong yesterday, espe when had time. Run game will come together too. Peart needs work. So use Solder and run him in and out. SQ first time gameplay field action in over a year.

4 games i give it.
Jones likely has  
santacruzom : 9/13/2021 11:59 am : link
only 33 games remaining as the Giants QB.
RE: Jones likely has  
Go Terps : 9/13/2021 12:01 pm : link
In comment 15364352 santacruzom said:
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only 33 games remaining as the Giants QB.


He can not be the quarterback in 2022. He can not.
RE: McKinney got like a 44 rating from PFF  
Breeze_94 : 9/13/2021 12:04 pm : link
In comment 15364318 gidiefor said:
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I could care less about PFF grades. The eye test looked good. Showed range knocking away a deep ball on the sideline early in the game.

On the 4th down play that Denver scored on, I thought McKinney actually made a good play. Yes, Bridgewater was able to stiff arm and fend Xavier off for a half second, but McKinney still forced Bridgewater to throw a pass while fading away to a target who was behind the original LOS. All Martinez needed to do was wrap up and make that tackle.
RE: RE: Jones likely has  
TheBlueprintNC : 9/13/2021 12:06 pm : link
In comment 15364356 Go Terps said:
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only 33 games remaining as the Giants QB.



He can not be the quarterback in 2022. He can not.


Why? He hasnt had a full line in front of him or a run game for last 2 years, until the end of last season and then he got hurt. Look pretty good yesterday aside from the Eli slide. Hasnt practiced wih new weapons yet either. So why? give him a chance.
That Bears pick is looking pretty sweet right now.  
St. Jimmy : 9/13/2021 12:06 pm : link
13th for the Giants pick has a lot of potential to get better.
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My son attended his first "real" game! Not sure if he'll want to  
mikeinbloomfield : 9/13/2021 12:07 pm : link
go back.
-- Golladay and Shepard.
-- I didn't buy that Blake Martinez jersey

RE: There were some individual  
DavidinBMNY : 9/13/2021 12:09 pm : link
In comment 15364307 Dave on the UWS said:
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positives.
The team, however, was unprepared. The game plans were terrible (soft zone with 2 press corners??)
The execution all around was sub standard.
There better be some MASSIVE improvement REAL fast or this will be another lost season.
True Dat!
RE: Team just needs  
Jimmy Googs : 9/13/2021 12:10 pm : link
In comment 15364341 TheBlueprintNC said:
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to practice and play together. Joe didnt become a fool and Graham didnt forget how to do D..

Eric said it best, they never all practiced together. so this is what we got. give it 4 games and practices and we will know what this team is. IMO Too much talent on roster now, will come together quickly. Yesterday same offense like last yr. D first time full complement of players playing together. DJ first time working together with OL and New Weapons -fumble deja vu ELI lol, BUT notice he learned. Nxt 2-3 x slid, protected ball much better. Dan will be getting much better quickly. He looked strong yesterday, espe when had time. Run game will come together too. Peart needs work. So use Solder and run him in and out. SQ first time gameplay field action in over a year.

4 games i give it.


Eric who?
RE: RE: Jones likely has  
santacruzom : 9/13/2021 12:14 pm : link
In comment 15364356 Go Terps said:
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only 33 games remaining as the Giants QB.



He can not be the quarterback in 2022. He can not.


As far as QB prospects go, I think Carson Strong is really going to appeal to them and probably be in striking range. But if they take a QB, will they start him as a rookie? I guess since Jones is hardly an aging veteran they likely would, but no mistake would surprise me at this point.
RE: McKinney got like a 44 rating from PFF  
Carson53 : 9/13/2021 12:16 pm : link
In comment 15364318 gidiefor said:
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It's really like he is a rookie out there. He missed so
much time last year, but he didn't look good.
The entire secondary can't seem to cover anybody.
The amount of separation that opposing WR's get is ridiculous, to be honest.
RE: RE: Team just needs  
TheBlueprintNC : 9/13/2021 12:17 pm : link
In comment 15364381 Jimmy Googs said:
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to practice and play together. Joe didnt become a fool and Graham didnt forget how to do D..

Eric said it best, they never all practiced together. so this is what we got. give it 4 games and practices and we will know what this team is. IMO Too much talent on roster now, will come together quickly. Yesterday same offense like last yr. D first time full complement of players playing together. DJ first time working together with OL and New Weapons -fumble deja vu ELI lol, BUT notice he learned. Nxt 2-3 x slid, protected ball much better. Dan will be getting much better quickly. He looked strong yesterday, espe when had time. Run game will come together too. Peart needs work. So use Solder and run him in and out. SQ first time gameplay field action in over a year.

4 games i give it.



Eric who?


BBI Owner -He knows football and usually has a realistic understanding of whats what.
RE: RE: RE: Team just needs  
Carson53 : 9/13/2021 12:20 pm : link
In comment 15364411 TheBlueprintNC said:
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to practice and play together. Joe didnt become a fool and Graham didnt forget how to do D..

Eric said it best, they never all practiced together. so this is what we got. give it 4 games and practices and we will know what this team is. IMO Too much talent on roster now, will come together quickly. Yesterday same offense like last yr. D first time full complement of players playing together. DJ first time working together with OL and New Weapons -fumble deja vu ELI lol, BUT notice he learned. Nxt 2-3 x slid, protected ball much better. Dan will be getting much better quickly. He looked strong yesterday, espe when had time. Run game will come together too. Peart needs work. So use Solder and run him in and out. SQ first time gameplay field action in over a year.

4 games i give it.



Eric who?



BBI Owner -He knows football and usually has a realistic understanding of whats what.
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I think the sarcasm font was in play here...LOL
RE: RE: Jones likely has  
John In CO : 9/13/2021 12:27 pm : link
In comment 15364356 Go Terps said:
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only 33 games remaining as the Giants QB.



He can not be the quarterback in 2022. He can not.


This is what scares me. Not that Jones will be the QB in 2022, but that once again the Giants will be forced to "take a QB" which was the mistake they made with Jones in the first place, taking the best QB of a bad group in a bad year for QB's. We had Eli for another year, still can not understand why we didnt just let him play it out and wait to select the QB in 2019 which was a better year - especially if DG was as in love with Herbert as many claimed. So if Corral, Rattler, etc....if they are THE GUY, then by all means go for it. But if they arent, dont force the issue!!!
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Jimmy Googs : 9/13/2021 12:29 pm : link
In comment 15364420 Carson53 said:
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to practice and play together. Joe didnt become a fool and Graham didnt forget how to do D..

Eric said it best, they never all practiced together. so this is what we got. give it 4 games and practices and we will know what this team is. IMO Too much talent on roster now, will come together quickly. Yesterday same offense like last yr. D first time full complement of players playing together. DJ first time working together with OL and New Weapons -fumble deja vu ELI lol, BUT notice he learned. Nxt 2-3 x slid, protected ball much better. Dan will be getting much better quickly. He looked strong yesterday, espe when had time. Run game will come together too. Peart needs work. So use Solder and run him in and out. SQ first time gameplay field action in over a year.

4 games i give it.



Eric who?



BBI Owner -He knows football and usually has a realistic understanding of whats what.

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I think the sarcasm font was in play here...LOL


not sarcasm
My positives  
Matt M. : 9/13/2021 12:31 pm : link
...yeah, I got nothing.
Well, no one got hurt, right?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/13/2021 12:31 pm : link
That's a positive.
Honestly I can't think of one.  
Blue21 : 9/13/2021 12:33 pm : link
Even the Judge after game interview, and it pains me to day this, was a joke.
My positive  
bluesince56 : 9/13/2021 12:42 pm : link
Rangers start camp soon
My positive  
US1 Giants : 9/13/2021 12:46 pm : link
I don't think there were any major injuries.
RE: Team just needs  
SirLoinOfBeef : 9/13/2021 12:59 pm : link
In comment 15364341 TheBlueprintNC said:
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to practice and play together. Joe didnt become a fool and Graham didnt forget how to do D..

Eric said it best, they never all practiced together. so this is what we got. give it 4 games and practices and we will know what this team is. IMO Too much talent on roster now, will come together quickly. Yesterday same offense like last yr. D first time full complement of players playing together. DJ first time working together with OL and New Weapons -fumble deja vu ELI lol, BUT notice he learned. Nxt 2-3 x slid, protected ball much better. Dan will be getting much better quickly. He looked strong yesterday, espe when had time. Run game will come together too. Peart needs work. So use Solder and run him in and out. SQ first time gameplay field action in over a year.

4 games i give it.


Deja Vu Eli? This kid is no Eli. And he fumbles much more than Eli did.
RE: RE: RE: Jones likely has  
Go Terps : 9/13/2021 1:00 pm : link
In comment 15364438 John In CO said:
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only 33 games remaining as the Giants QB.



He can not be the quarterback in 2022. He can not.



This is what scares me. Not that Jones will be the QB in 2022, but that once again the Giants will be forced to "take a QB" which was the mistake they made with Jones in the first place, taking the best QB of a bad group in a bad year for QB's. We had Eli for another year, still can not understand why we didnt just let him play it out and wait to select the QB in 2019 which was a better year - especially if DG was as in love with Herbert as many claimed. So if Corral, Rattler, etc....if they are THE GUY, then by all means go for it. But if they arent, dont force the issue!!!


I want Judge to have an opportunity to scout and select his quarterback. If that means a high first rounder in 2022, fine. If it means a later pick, fine. If it means a trade or free agent, fine.

Teams don't get into trouble missing on a high QB pick anymore. Where they get into trouble is in chasing a lost cause because they have to justify the investment. Nothing was stopping is from drafting Herbert, drafting Hurts, drafting Fields, signing Bridgewater, trading for Minshew...nothing - except for our self-imposed commitment to Jones. The next guy we draft doesn't have to be the guy for 10 years. He just has to be better than Jones.

Jones can not be the quarterback in 2022. He absolutely can not.
RE: RE: Team just needs  
Angel Eyes : 9/13/2021 1:02 pm : link
In comment 15364541 SirLoinOfBeef said:
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to practice and play together. Joe didnt become a fool and Graham didnt forget how to do D..

Eric said it best, they never all practiced together. so this is what we got. give it 4 games and practices and we will know what this team is. IMO Too much talent on roster now, will come together quickly. Yesterday same offense like last yr. D first time full complement of players playing together. DJ first time working together with OL and New Weapons -fumble deja vu ELI lol, BUT notice he learned. Nxt 2-3 x slid, protected ball much better. Dan will be getting much better quickly. He looked strong yesterday, espe when had time. Run game will come together too. Peart needs work. So use Solder and run him in and out. SQ first time gameplay field action in over a year.

4 games i give it.



Deja Vu Eli? This kid is no Eli. And he fumbles much more than Eli did.

Eli fumbled quite a lot, 125 times (on average, not counting the years where he wasn't a full-time starter, that's about 8 per season); in 2007, the first year the Giants won with him, he fumbled 13 times.
The Bears lost.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/13/2021 1:04 pm : link
That's it.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Jones likely has  
GNewGiants : 9/13/2021 1:05 pm : link
In comment 15364546 Go Terps said:
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Nothing was stopping is from drafting Herbert, drafting Hurts, drafting Fields, signing Bridgewater, trading for Minshew...nothing - except for our self-imposed commitment to Jones. The next guy we draft doesn't have to be the guy for 10 years. He just has to be better than Jones.

Jones can not be the quarterback in 2022. He absolutely can not.


I wont disagree with you that we need to replace Jones probably months ago... the problem is listing Qbs above and suggesting things would be better with them. Outside of Herbert, the rest of them are still hugely unproven or guys that you will not win with.

And a team devoid of talent on many levels - rotating Qbs or drafting them high with 1st or 2nd round picks will not help that QB succeed.
Might be the best game to lose  
JohnnyFlowers : 9/13/2021 1:17 pm : link
since Denver is out of the conference. Just searching for positives. Need to pull out a win Thursday.
RE: RE: Jones likely has  
FStubbs : 9/13/2021 2:29 pm : link
In comment 15364356 Go Terps said:
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only 33 games remaining as the Giants QB.



He can not be the quarterback in 2022. He can not.


If the draft is weak at QB we sign a veteran and let them compete.
We draft no worse  
Joe Beckwith : 9/13/2021 3:41 pm : link
than 15 and 16 after tonight.
Weed is legal  
Bingo : 9/13/2021 3:50 pm : link
Oh, you mean with the giants? I think Garrett is smoking too much. The organization stinks.
RE: RE: No major  
FStubbs : 9/13/2021 5:17 pm : link
In comment 15364295 jeffusedtobeonwebtv said:
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injuries?



Right, we could have been the jests with their left tackle carted off. And they also allowed 6 sacks.


Pat Shurmur got his revenge on us, Sam Darnold got his revenge on the Jets.

But yeah, no major injuries. So better the Giants than the Jets.
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