- Our WR group is legit. Shepard looks outstanding, Golladay made some incredible catches. Hoping Toney can make an impact once integrated and replace Slayton eventually.
- 4/5ths of the Oline looked solid. Thomas played a clean game. Bredeson looks like a find. Hernandez held up well in pass pro. Gates is our best OL.
- Leonard Williams is still a force.
- McKinney looks like a player. He plays at a different speed back there.
- Saquon looked like he doesn’t quite have his legs completely under him yet. But he made a couple of cuts that looked like Saquon of old. Thought it was a positive sign despite him not really getting going in this game.
dallas lost, washington lost, chicago lost That's about it.
Smooth sailin' the rest of the way boys!
That sounds stupid.. So missing a tackle on a 4th down play is coaching? Fumbling the ball on a run is coaching? Blow to the head of the QB for 15 yards is coaching?
There were a lot of coaching choices that added to the issues but the players failed miserably yesterday.
Right, we could have been the jests with their left tackle carted off. And they also allowed 6 sacks.
The team, however, was unprepared. The game plans were terrible (soft zone with 2 press corners??)
The execution all around was sub standard.
There better be some MASSIVE improvement REAL fast or this will be another lost season.
He was only targeted once in the first half. And then not again until late in the 3rd Q. I haven't no f*cking clue why.
Not really true had a nice contested catch and drew the DPI when the game wasn't totally out of reach.
Smooth sailin' the rest of the way boys!
Ha! I (jokingly) thought of that too!
Looks like I may not need to be worried about being glued to a tv when I could be outside :)
did you pay your debt?
Eric said it best, they never all practiced together. so this is what we got. give it 4 games and practices and we will know what this team is. IMO Too much talent on roster now, will come together quickly. Yesterday same offense like last yr. D first time full complement of players playing together. DJ first time working together with OL and New Weapons -fumble deja vu ELI lol, BUT notice he learned. Nxt 2-3 x slid, protected ball much better. Dan will be getting much better quickly. He looked strong yesterday, espe when had time. Run game will come together too. Peart needs work. So use Solder and run him in and out. SQ first time gameplay field action in over a year.
4 games i give it.
He can not be the quarterback in 2022. He can not.
I could care less about PFF grades. The eye test looked good. Showed range knocking away a deep ball on the sideline early in the game.
On the 4th down play that Denver scored on, I thought McKinney actually made a good play. Yes, Bridgewater was able to stiff arm and fend Xavier off for a half second, but McKinney still forced Bridgewater to throw a pass while fading away to a target who was behind the original LOS. All Martinez needed to do was wrap up and make that tackle.
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only 33 games remaining as the Giants QB.
He can not be the quarterback in 2022. He can not.
Why? He hasnt had a full line in front of him or a run game for last 2 years, until the end of last season and then he got hurt. Look pretty good yesterday aside from the Eli slide. Hasnt practiced wih new weapons yet either. So why? give him a chance.
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-- Golladay and Shepard.
-- I didn't buy that Blake Martinez jersey
The team, however, was unprepared. The game plans were terrible (soft zone with 2 press corners??)
The execution all around was sub standard.
There better be some MASSIVE improvement REAL fast or this will be another lost season.
Eric said it best, they never all practiced together. so this is what we got. give it 4 games and practices and we will know what this team is. IMO Too much talent on roster now, will come together quickly. Yesterday same offense like last yr. D first time full complement of players playing together. DJ first time working together with OL and New Weapons -fumble deja vu ELI lol, BUT notice he learned. Nxt 2-3 x slid, protected ball much better. Dan will be getting much better quickly. He looked strong yesterday, espe when had time. Run game will come together too. Peart needs work. So use Solder and run him in and out. SQ first time gameplay field action in over a year.
4 games i give it.
Eric who?
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only 33 games remaining as the Giants QB.
He can not be the quarterback in 2022. He can not.
As far as QB prospects go, I think Carson Strong is really going to appeal to them and probably be in striking range. But if they take a QB, will they start him as a rookie? I guess since Jones is hardly an aging veteran they likely would, but no mistake would surprise me at this point.
It's really like he is a rookie out there. He missed so
much time last year, but he didn't look good.
The entire secondary can't seem to cover anybody.
The amount of separation that opposing WR's get is ridiculous, to be honest.
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to practice and play together. Joe didnt become a fool and Graham didnt forget how to do D..
Eric said it best, they never all practiced together. so this is what we got. give it 4 games and practices and we will know what this team is. IMO Too much talent on roster now, will come together quickly. Yesterday same offense like last yr. D first time full complement of players playing together. DJ first time working together with OL and New Weapons -fumble deja vu ELI lol, BUT notice he learned. Nxt 2-3 x slid, protected ball much better. Dan will be getting much better quickly. He looked strong yesterday, espe when had time. Run game will come together too. Peart needs work. So use Solder and run him in and out. SQ first time gameplay field action in over a year.
4 games i give it.
Eric who?
BBI Owner -He knows football and usually has a realistic understanding of whats what.
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to practice and play together. Joe didnt become a fool and Graham didnt forget how to do D..
Eric said it best, they never all practiced together. so this is what we got. give it 4 games and practices and we will know what this team is. IMO Too much talent on roster now, will come together quickly. Yesterday same offense like last yr. D first time full complement of players playing together. DJ first time working together with OL and New Weapons -fumble deja vu ELI lol, BUT notice he learned. Nxt 2-3 x slid, protected ball much better. Dan will be getting much better quickly. He looked strong yesterday, espe when had time. Run game will come together too. Peart needs work. So use Solder and run him in and out. SQ first time gameplay field action in over a year.
4 games i give it.
Eric who?
BBI Owner -He knows football and usually has a realistic understanding of whats what.
I think the sarcasm font was in play here...LOL
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only 33 games remaining as the Giants QB.
He can not be the quarterback in 2022. He can not.
This is what scares me. Not that Jones will be the QB in 2022, but that once again the Giants will be forced to "take a QB" which was the mistake they made with Jones in the first place, taking the best QB of a bad group in a bad year for QB's. We had Eli for another year, still can not understand why we didnt just let him play it out and wait to select the QB in 2019 which was a better year - especially if DG was as in love with Herbert as many claimed. So if Corral, Rattler, etc....if they are THE GUY, then by all means go for it. But if they arent, dont force the issue!!!
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In comment 15364341 TheBlueprintNC said:
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to practice and play together. Joe didnt become a fool and Graham didnt forget how to do D..
Eric said it best, they never all practiced together. so this is what we got. give it 4 games and practices and we will know what this team is. IMO Too much talent on roster now, will come together quickly. Yesterday same offense like last yr. D first time full complement of players playing together. DJ first time working together with OL and New Weapons -fumble deja vu ELI lol, BUT notice he learned. Nxt 2-3 x slid, protected ball much better. Dan will be getting much better quickly. He looked strong yesterday, espe when had time. Run game will come together too. Peart needs work. So use Solder and run him in and out. SQ first time gameplay field action in over a year.
4 games i give it.
Eric who?
BBI Owner -He knows football and usually has a realistic understanding of whats what.
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I think the sarcasm font was in play here...LOL
not sarcasm
Eric said it best, they never all practiced together. so this is what we got. give it 4 games and practices and we will know what this team is. IMO Too much talent on roster now, will come together quickly. Yesterday same offense like last yr. D first time full complement of players playing together. DJ first time working together with OL and New Weapons -fumble deja vu ELI lol, BUT notice he learned. Nxt 2-3 x slid, protected ball much better. Dan will be getting much better quickly. He looked strong yesterday, espe when had time. Run game will come together too. Peart needs work. So use Solder and run him in and out. SQ first time gameplay field action in over a year.
4 games i give it.
Deja Vu Eli? This kid is no Eli. And he fumbles much more than Eli did.
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only 33 games remaining as the Giants QB.
He can not be the quarterback in 2022. He can not.
This is what scares me. Not that Jones will be the QB in 2022, but that once again the Giants will be forced to "take a QB" which was the mistake they made with Jones in the first place, taking the best QB of a bad group in a bad year for QB's. We had Eli for another year, still can not understand why we didnt just let him play it out and wait to select the QB in 2019 which was a better year - especially if DG was as in love with Herbert as many claimed. So if Corral, Rattler, etc....if they are THE GUY, then by all means go for it. But if they arent, dont force the issue!!!
I want Judge to have an opportunity to scout and select his quarterback. If that means a high first rounder in 2022, fine. If it means a later pick, fine. If it means a trade or free agent, fine.
Teams don't get into trouble missing on a high QB pick anymore. Where they get into trouble is in chasing a lost cause because they have to justify the investment. Nothing was stopping is from drafting Herbert, drafting Hurts, drafting Fields, signing Bridgewater, trading for Minshew...nothing - except for our self-imposed commitment to Jones. The next guy we draft doesn't have to be the guy for 10 years. He just has to be better than Jones.
Jones can not be the quarterback in 2022. He absolutely can not.
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to practice and play together. Joe didnt become a fool and Graham didnt forget how to do D..
Eric said it best, they never all practiced together. so this is what we got. give it 4 games and practices and we will know what this team is. IMO Too much talent on roster now, will come together quickly. Yesterday same offense like last yr. D first time full complement of players playing together. DJ first time working together with OL and New Weapons -fumble deja vu ELI lol, BUT notice he learned. Nxt 2-3 x slid, protected ball much better. Dan will be getting much better quickly. He looked strong yesterday, espe when had time. Run game will come together too. Peart needs work. So use Solder and run him in and out. SQ first time gameplay field action in over a year.
4 games i give it.
Deja Vu Eli? This kid is no Eli. And he fumbles much more than Eli did.
Eli fumbled quite a lot, 125 times (on average, not counting the years where he wasn't a full-time starter, that's about 8 per season); in 2007, the first year the Giants won with him, he fumbled 13 times.
Jones can not be the quarterback in 2022. He absolutely can not.
I wont disagree with you that we need to replace Jones probably months ago... the problem is listing Qbs above and suggesting things would be better with them. Outside of Herbert, the rest of them are still hugely unproven or guys that you will not win with.
And a team devoid of talent on many levels - rotating Qbs or drafting them high with 1st or 2nd round picks will not help that QB succeed.
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only 33 games remaining as the Giants QB.
He can not be the quarterback in 2022. He can not.
If the draft is weak at QB we sign a veteran and let them compete.
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injuries?
Right, we could have been the jests with their left tackle carted off. And they also allowed 6 sacks.
Pat Shurmur got his revenge on us, Sam Darnold got his revenge on the Jets.
But yeah, no major injuries. So better the Giants than the Jets.