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Observations from yesterday

AdamBrag : 9/13/2021 11:59 am
Because no one has asked for it, here's some observations from the game yesterday. I'm trying to be balanced, not too positive or negative. And I think there's positives and negatives to take away.

1 - Teddy Bridgewater played really well. Like really, really well. If we were playing the Bucs and Tom Brady did what Bridgewater did, we'd be saying that nothing you can do when Brady is playing that well. Bridgewater played like a top 5 QB on Sunday. According to PFF, we pressured him on over 50% of his drop backs. That's really high (Jones was pressured on ~25% of his drop backs) and Bridgewater was really good under pressure. I don't think we need to throw our defense under the bus yet.

2 - It looks like Dexter Lawrence and Zo Carter are ready to make a step forward this year. Both provided a lot of pressure yesterday. Yes, they got close but couldn't get sacks, but I think we'll see some of those pressures convert to sacks against Washington. They each had 4 pressures yesterday.

3 - Daniel Jones is not the answer at QB. Does he look better now than he looked against the Bucs in 2019? All the same positives are still positives, but all the same negatives are still negatives. Maybe, he is slightly better at moving in the pocket, but, generally that's a negative aspect of his game. He's bad under pressure. He doesn't improvise well. Yes, he'd look better under a different scheme and with better protection (although his pass protection was much better yesterday), but he's never going to be a star. "Good enough" isn't good enough at the QB position.

4 - What has changed about this offense? It looked identical to last year. Yes, Garrett's offense is trash. That seems obvious. But, what is Joe Judge doing to fix it? There wasn't enough play action, not enough motion, very little misdirection. Even the mantra for the offseason was more explosive plays and then they barely tried any big plays. The scripted plays to start the game looked slightly better, so I'm guessing Garrett has way too much influence. No matter what the behind the scenes dynamics, the way the offense looked was unacceptable. Unfortunately, even though he sounds good, I'm not sure Judge understands how to coach an elite offense. I'm a fan of Judge and I'm really hoping he proves me wrong and this is all Garrett's fault.

5 - Doubling down on the offensive ineptitude, the run game was really bad and the play calling was certainly part of it. Running Barkley into the center of the line against a stacked box is not a great formula for success. The Broncos ran the ball outside the tackles on over 60% of their running plays. The Giants ran the ball outside the tackles on just 25% of their running plays.

6 - On a positive note, pass protection seems improved, especially on the left side of the line. Yes, Chubb was out, but Malik Reed is the type of edge rusher that should give Thomas trouble and Thomas handled him easily. Lemieux looked impressive, as well. I don't think Hernandez looked horrible besides a few plays. Solder wasn't good. Overall though, Jones was about as well protected as he's been as a Giant.
Hmm, some of what you say is just  
jvm52106 : 9/13/2021 12:07 pm : link
stuff said by others but some is not completely accurate to the issue. #1 Teddy bridgewater was fine- not great, fine and mainly becuase we couldn't tackle him and we couldn't get pressure at all when it counted. We missed a bunch of tackles making their drives last longer. If we stop a couple of those 4th down plays this game is way different and the "we were out coached comments" would be directed at the Broncos. They took chances, the Gmen didn't make them pay for it.

The play calling- when certain types of plays are chosen is still baffling to me. Garrett has zero feel for the game, especially early. You don't follow a big pass play with a jet sweep to a guy who would be watched closely for that specific play- especially to the side you ran it and without your best weapon in the field to even make the defense honest. That was fire worthy right there. He killed the early momentum and changed everything.

Comments about Bridgewater explains why he won the job  
John In CO : 9/13/2021 12:09 pm : link
I had a front row seat to the Denver QB competition all summer. Bridgewater does exactly what Shurmur wants him to do. He does not have nearly the arm of Lock, BUT.....he is accurate with the football, is pretty smart, and doesnt make mistakes. I compare Lock to Jones in a way, but with more arm talent. He is just too damn prone to mistakes, and those mistakes cost the team games. People seem to forget that before he went to Carolina Bridgewater was a fairly well regarded QB after his comeback performances in NO. That season in Carolina really took the shine off of him. But he and Shurmur seem to work well together. I havent seen too many mistakes from him at all over the past 3 and a half months.
giants  
bobc : 9/13/2021 12:14 pm : link
The Giants offense is going to be awful until they can run the ball. You can not expect an offense to be effective starting every series at 2nd and 8. Bridgewater played the best i ever saw him play he looked like joe montana out there. The defense has got to get some stops out there too many successful 3rd and 4th downs. Shummer outcoached Garrett in my opinion. I am not sure why we can not run the ball we could last year and this llne should be better. Is the scheme of the running play or the line? Something has to change quick.
Good balanced  
Les in TO : 9/13/2021 12:15 pm : link
Post. Hopefully a lesser offense on Thursday will be the medicine the défense needs. But depressing that with each performance Jones is absolutely looking like a bust.
Adam  
Jimmy Googs : 9/13/2021 12:22 pm : link
Zo Carter did well?

Not saying he did/didn't but just wasn't focused in on him much...

Either way, Bridgewater was the vastly better QB yesterday  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 9/13/2021 12:26 pm : link
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Play action works  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/13/2021 12:43 pm : link
when you are running the ball well. Then you can do it on first down or when you are in a very favorable 2nd/3rd down. Otherwise you are fooling no one.


They had most of the offensive players out for training camp. Lemieux was out most of camp. The new OL have not been with the team for two weeks. After thinking about it I am hoping that they kept things very simple being the first game and they will have a much better plan for WFT.

The defense though was really poor. Hopefully they are disgusted and turn it around pronto.
I don't know where your Carter take comes from  
Greg from LI : 9/13/2021 12:45 pm : link
He was mostly invisible yesterday, as he usually is.
Until jones  
thrunthrublue : 9/13/2021 12:48 pm : link
Becomes able to look off safeties, not lock onto his primary receiver…..not until he disengages from his “deer in the headlights” qb persona….he will continue to be dominated by opposing defenses….and, his O line is the worst run blocking group in the league. As the bears and giants continue to lose, separating from DG and his hog molly folly of scouts is critically necessary, if this giants team ever wants to and another Lombardi.
RE: Play action works  
Eman11 : 9/13/2021 12:51 pm : link
In comment 15364497 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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when you are running the ball well. Then you can do it on first down or when you are in a very favorable 2nd/3rd down. Otherwise you are fooling no one.


They had most of the offensive players out for training camp. Lemieux was out most of camp. The new OL have not been with the team for two weeks. After thinking about it I am hoping that they kept things very simple being the first game and they will have a much better plan for WFT.

The defense though was really poor. Hopefully they are disgusted and turn it around pronto.


They weren’t running well but I think a play action would’ve worked on 1st down after the Logan Ryan fumble play. Didn’t have to go deep with it, but a short pass over the middle to Rudolph or SS might’ve gotten them off the goal line and at worst a 1st down instead of a predictable 3 and out there.
Daniel Jones is a bottom tier starter  
DavidinBMNY : 9/13/2021 12:59 pm : link
Until he's not. He was the QB leading the offense that scored 7 points, until a garbage time TD.


I think they have to make a change for week 3 at play caller. May not be enough time to do it for week 2.

Carter?  
Matt M. : 9/13/2021 1:14 pm : link
When did he get pressure, let alone multiple times?

Lawrence? Yes. Carter? Please
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