but it should have got the defense to do better. After all,he is your qb running well and gets tackled hard for first time in months and surprise he gives up the ball. Defense should have risen up to shove it down broncos throat rather than let them always have an open receiver on 3rd and long.
You can’t have Jones playing “afraid to lose”.,his aggressive style running and throwing must be encouraged and the rest of the team must rise up to join it. If Garrett/JJ can’t get that across then we will have big problems.
When he runs and makes contact (and I do not understand why) I am just waiting for a injury and or fumble. Wonder if the team feels the same way?
Giants were losing 17-7 at the time the Jones fumble occured.
The last TD was only 6 if I remember correctly they didn't even kick the XP lol what are worthless drive if you're not even going to go for two...
We said the same thing when it happened. Jones didn't really take a hit on the ball or arms on this play yesterday, did he? Not sure I have seen a replay.
The fumble was awful, brutal, but there are no opportunities for jones to make up for those mistakes. Tampa had 4 turnovers to Dallas' 1 on Thursday and they still put up 31 points. They played aggressively and pushed the ball downfield. They didn't run it up the middle for 2 yards every first down. They didnt play like they were trying to get to a managable 3rd down. And they won.
They just didn't play. He didn't say he wasn't talking about college football teams.
This is simple math. There are 32 teams that played this weekend in the NFL. If 24 of them didn't win, it means only 8 did. So 8 teams beat 24 teams.
You didn't see the Saints beat the Packers, Lions and Giants on Sunday?
You probably also missed Tampa beating the Cowboys/Vikings/Falcons.
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It killed a likely scoring drive of what was still a close game.
It killed a drive, it took the offense off the field, it put the defense back onto the field, it took points off the board, it changed momentum.
How did it not change the game?
I imagine I'm not the only fan who was completely deflated by the play due to the futility it presented. I.e. even if we get into scoring position, our QB is equally as likely to take us out of it as he is to deliver.
Is it crazy to think the other Giants' players are affected similarly? I don't think so.
I've been open to Jones being our franchise QB. Up until that play. Not SOLD on it, but open to it. Hopeful it could work. His rookie year (turnovers aside) earned him at least some leash, and a very disappointing sophomore season got at least some mulligans based on Saquon/new scheme/new coaches/no line/no preseason. That's a tough set up. Even though he was an abject failure.
But what I saw from him yesterday was extremely concerning. Extremely concerning. He does some good things still. He does. He's not completely without any talent whatsoever. But that fumble wasn't him getting bum-rushed by Von Miller over a cemented-in-place Peart and then fumbling cause he got crushed. This was a back-breaking fumble that simply DID NOT HAVE TO HAPPEN. Every franchise guy out there (Rodgers, Wilson, Mahomes, even Stafford) slides at 7 yards there and heads back to the huddle. Jones dives headfirst, risking injury, being converged on by multiple defenders. It's just not a winning play. It's reckless and it cost us.
And in that play, I just saw it clearly. He does make some plays. But he doesn't make winning plays. A few minutes later I watched him stare down all of his receivers for four straight red zone plays in a row. He is a good athlete but he doesn't have "it". Three years is an eternity in football. He isn't savvy and he's not a winner. He's clunky and he loses.
Of course, we finish the year with him (provided he doesn't get ripped to shreds diving headfirst again). But it's time, guys. Time to plan on throwing in the towel and going back to the drawing board at QB.
Powerful post.
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It killed a likely scoring drive of what was still a close game.
It killed a drive, it took the offense off the field, it put the defense back onto the field, it took points off the board, it changed momentum.
How did it not change the game?
I imagine I'm not the only fan who was completely deflated by the play due to the futility it presented. I.e. even if we get into scoring position, our QB is equally as likely to take us out of it as he is to deliver.
Is it crazy to think the other Giants' players are affected similarly? I don't think so.
Exactly.
I'm not sure why so many supposed fans think that every interaction is the same as an inanimate chess move.