Without going into all the components of my life, it is safe to say I am very busy and have lots of interests and business challenges that keep me very busy.
Busy at the office
Daughter getting married in 2 months
Sit on a couple of boards
Lots of interesting stuff going on
BUT.......................................................................
What the hell is this lifelong infatuation with the Giants?
I can't focus today. I will snap out of it I always do, but the visceral strain for no good reason is dumbfounding.
every year it is the same thing...Any arm chair shrinks here or anyone else find themselves in the same boat?
It's been a spiraling shitshow for the last eight years, sure, but taking the long view helps me find a little "serenity now."
I'm not sure it'd be any different if they had won, although.
Looking on the bright side, until 2018, I would watch no matter how good or bad they are. Now, if they're winless by October then my fall/winter Sundays become far more productive.
OTOH after a win, I'm skipping through each day w/ joy in my heart.
When we start losing as we have the last bunch of years I will still watch and try to determine any way we can sneak into the play-offs or if is better to lose for the draft spot....that crap should not be starting in September.
OTOH after a win, I'm skipping through each day w/ joy in my heart.
Yes DHos much better toward the end of the week...and waiting 10 days or 2 weeks to get back is painful
My only suggestion is to try and cut out the negative shit (what you read probably being the biggest factor) and try to remind yourself that sports are for children and that adults just happen to make money off of them.
Not caring would not take the place of too much passion for me.
Reality tells me the market will recover.......
This!
I made this "mental / outlook shift" a few years ago (for life in general, not just Giants games) and I'm MUCH happier.
So many things in life you can't control; how you react to them is much more (or totally) in your control.
I get upset on individual plays and feel a little down right after watching the all too frequent losing efforts recently.
Maybe it's because I have such low expectations at this point, but I just don't get upset over Giants losses anymore.
Try it.
My only suggestion is to try and cut out the negative shit (what you read probably being the biggest factor) and try to remind yourself that sports are for children and that adults just happen to make money off of them.
Same thing happened some time last year. Just too often Football Sundays we're ruining the end of my weekend/start of work week.
And the feeling, it's like this anxious dread knowing your team sucked (and probably will continue to suck) with no real solution except them winning every single future game, including the Super Bowl. And what if they ever made the SB and lost?
Once you realize what it takes to prevent that crappy feeling from ruining you is impossible, the anxiety is less overwhelming... somewhat.
There is no escaping it, just know there are others who are with you and in the same spot my friend.
how is it possible..how is it even remotely possible that this team has become this. It's Mara, he is a nice man but has no fire in his belly. the nepotism with his son and nephew having big roles on the football side is disgraceful. The Fucking Giants are much more my team then theirs. His daddy bought the team, hes never had a real job in his pussified entitled fucking life. Dave Gettlemen is the worst GM in football history and he still has a job here. This is nothing short of a complete disgrace.
instead of Daniel Jones we should have montez sweat, instead of anderw thomas we should have justin herbert and instead of kadarius toney we should have chirtian darrislaw. All easy calls btw, Dave Gettlemen never traded down before this year..thats all you need to know about his hubris and ability to understand how to build a winner. I am sick today, nauseous and will be forever I suppose.
Thanks varco........Golf, Kayaking, day trips to nearby getaways, concerts, comedy clubs, other hobbies, time with friends and family, great streaming TV, and charity work......but it all revolves around Sundays in the Fall (Or this week Thursday)Thursday at sundown is Yom Kippur most important day for those of us who observe, I will be thinking about 8pm all day long, planned the dinner around the game.
There is no escaping it, just know there are others who are with you and in the same spot my friend.
how is it possible..how is it even remotely possible that this team has become this. It's Mara, he is a nice man but has no fire in his belly. the nepotism with his son and nephew having big roles on the football side is disgraceful. The Fucking Giants are much more my team then theirs. His daddy bought the team, hes never had a real job in his pussified entitled fucking life. Dave Gettlemen is the worst GM in football history and he still has a job here. This is nothing short of a complete disgrace.
instead of Daniel Jones we should have montez sweat, instead of anderw thomas we should have justin herbert and instead of kadarius toney we should have chirtian darrislaw. All easy calls btw, Dave Gettlemen never traded down before this year..thats all you need to know about his hubris and ability to understand how to build a winner. I am sick today, nauseous and will be forever I suppose.
Bluetothegrave....if my math is right you are a bit younger than I though no less passionate, how do you feel about these follow posters who say dont take it so seriously?
If the answers to those questions are vivid in your mind you probably have the answer to why something you can't control and really makes zero difference in your life matters so much to you emotionally.
My Father is the answer to all of those questions for me (and uncles and my mother some of the time). All of them are long gone now but when I sit and watch the Giants I get to visit with them. They're still with me and the feelings of what it was like when the Giants lost when I was a kid are the same today. It's the only reason I won't stop watching.
Can you imagine continuing to watch any other TV show for a decade that was as crap as the Giants have been since 2012? Of course not. It's the ghosts. They're in the room on Sundays.
They were chuckling back at my reaction and probably harkening back to my many reactions over the years.
I sit down with the best intentions of enjoying the start of a new season only to sit and face the same old same old....the poor OL play, the lack of rhythmic offense, open opposing receivers, the realization that we aren't going to win.........and boom....I am in a bad mood, ask myself why I do this to myself.
But in the end, I will sit there Thursday night feeling the same optimism, hoping to finally see some winning football and actually enjoying the game.
Not caring would not take the place of too much passion for me.
That's kinda like having your cake and eating it too. You either want sports to effect you or you don't. Not sure there is an in between. I'm still "passionate" in the sense that I find sports very interesting, but losing doesn't really bother me anymore.
If the answers to those questions are vivid in your mind you probably have the answer to why something you can't control and really makes zero difference in your life matters so much to you emotionally.
My Father is the answer to all of those questions for me (and uncles and my mother some of the time). All of them are long gone now but when I sit and watch the Giants I get to visit with them. They're still with me and the feelings of what it was like when the Giants lost when I was a kid are the same today. It's the only reason I won't stop watching.
Can you imagine continuing to watch any other TV show for a decade that was as crap as the Giants have been since 2012? Of course not. It's the ghosts. They're in the room on Sundays.
Boy did you put your finger on it. My memories of dad taking me to Yankee Stadium and the Goodbye ALLIE CHANTS STILL RINGING IN MY EARS.......It meant so much more to me than I knew at that time.
Bluetothegrave....if my math is right you are a bit younger than I though no less passionate, how do you feel about these follow posters who say dont take it so seriously? [/quote]
I am a bit jealous on one hand and will never understand it on the other my friend. I take it extremely seriously as I know you do as well and its absolutely devastating that the Giants front office doesn't. I guess I say to the people that say don't take it that seriously..good for you at least we have 86,90 , 07 and 11. 4 best 5 week periods in my life hands down without question.
I think the theory of experiencing the bad makes the good times sweeter.
I like your approach, but I'm not sure I'm ready to potentially give up the sweetness.
2007 - SB Champs, went 0-2 to start the season, outscored by a ton, didn't look good.
2011 - SB Champs, opening loss to Washington by two touchdowns, same team that went 4-11 the rest of the way.
If you believed in Joe Judge to begin with, give him a chance to do what he says he does, teach, correct, and help players and units improve performance.
Anyway, not much else to hold on to, that's all I got for you after yesterday...
Bluetothegrave....if my math is right you are a bit younger than I though no less passionate, how do you feel about these follow posters who say dont take it so seriously?
I am a bit jealous on one hand and will never understand it on the other my friend. I take it extremely seriously as I know you do as well and its absolutely devastating that the Giants front office doesn't. I guess I say to the people that say don't take it that seriously..good for you at least we have 86,90 , 07 and 11. 4 best 5 week periods in my life hands down without question. [/quote]
I know, and I had the good fortune of being at The Rose Bowl (The best) The Whitney Houston wide right Scott Norwood, and with my son in Phoenix for the Tyree game. I did not get to go to the Indianapolis win (Brandon Jacobs nearly screwing that up, or the Ravens blow out)
But with me it is a bit of what have you done for me lately.
But it really irritates me that on paper, this defense looks great, and they played so lousy yesterday.
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at least I think you're all guys. Why did you become a Giant fan? Who took you to your first live games? Did you watch games with family when you were a kid?
If the answers to those questions are vivid in your mind you probably have the answer to why something you can't control and really makes zero difference in your life matters so much to you emotionally.
My Father is the answer to all of those questions for me (and uncles and my mother some of the time). All of them are long gone now but when I sit and watch the Giants I get to visit with them. They're still with me and the feelings of what it was like when the Giants lost when I was a kid are the same today. It's the only reason I won't stop watching.
Can you imagine continuing to watch any other TV show for a decade that was as crap as the Giants have been since 2012? Of course not. It's the ghosts. They're in the room on Sundays.
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This is absolutely beautiful. A little tear in my eye for you. Your story is much more poignant than mine. My dad was a NY sports fan and a pretty big Giant fan. He owned a pharmacy in Jackson heights and he was the druggist for the mets and the yanks. Gene Monahan and Tom Mckenna used to get us great seats to the Mets and Yanks. We watched football on Sundays but he liked the Giants and the Jets. It was 1977 it was the green of the field and the blue of the Giants..and that defense Harry carson, Brian Kelly and Brad Van Pelt. I can't explain what happened. It was and is love in it's complete and utter despair and folly. Even with holding call after holding call in a terrible loss to the Atlanta falcons I fell in love right there. I also loved Doug Kotar and Gary Shirk.
Stay away until Tuesday or Wednesday.
To quote Gene Mauch, "someone is going to pay for this" (he said this in reference to a losing streak).
I'm just not sure when that payback is going to actually start.
Same here.
I feel for all you guys that are going to really hate life Friday morning after the skins embarrass us on national TV.
Stay away until Tuesday or Wednesday.
I would agree. I've taken a step back myself - the amount of people basking in misery is a turnoff. The term "venting" is used to explain that but I don't buy it with the loudest of posters - they enjoy it and I don't like being a part of it. This board is as toxic as it gets after a loss, heck, sometimes even after a win.
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Do not come to BBI to commiserate. Do not engage on game threads. If you must, there are a handful of posters that are realistic in assessing the game. Biteymax22 and hitdog42 are two off the top of my head with a couple others.
Stay away until Tuesday or Wednesday.
I would agree. I've taken a step back myself - the amount of people basking in misery is a turnoff. The term "venting" is used to explain that but I don't buy it with the loudest of posters - they enjoy it and I don't like being a part of it. This board is as toxic as it gets after a loss, heck, sometimes even after a win.
There was someone in the post game thread telling another poster to “blow me”
He used to spend time just staring from the bridge at the railroad track when he would think about his future or other things to contemplate.
Then the visits to the bridge started to be replaced by times of solitude to get over horrendous Viking losses.
Never to actually jump, but a place to be alone to wonder why he cared so much.
Lately I have been wishing for the same type of bridge because our losses over the years have been just as crushing;- Miracle in the Meadowlands, Flipper Anderson, DeSean Jackson's punt return, etc.......
I need a bridge.
He used to spend time just staring from the bridge at the railroad track when he would think about his future or other things to contemplate.
Then the visits to the bridge started to be replaced by times of solitude to get over horrendous Viking losses.
Never to actually jump, but a place to be alone to wonder why he cared so much.
Lately I have been wishing for the same type of bridge because our losses over the years have been just as crushing;- Miracle in the Meadowlands, Flipper Anderson, DeSean Jackson's punt return, etc.......
I need a bridge.
Hey buddy.....lots of bridges in NY, misery loves company
And I am fucking miserable. I've never been in a better place really, but the Giants just won't cooperate and give their desperate fans even just a hollow winning regular season. Not even asking for postseason glory, but we can't even ask for 17-20 wins over a 2 years period, just something to distract us from all the losing, even if it's fake or short lived. Nope, just lose, a lot, and then lose some more.
When my life was shit, the Giants were at their best. I guess I can't have it both ways.
Markky.....Until I read the last 3 words on that post I thought this was a "Karen" post
And I am fucking miserable. I've never been in a better place really, but the Giants just won't cooperate and give their desperate fans even just a hollow winning regular season. Not even asking for postseason glory, but we can't even ask for 17-20 wins over a 2 years period, just something to distract us from all the losing, even if it's fake or short lived. Nope, just lose, a lot, and then lose some more.
When my life was shit, the Giants were at their best. I guess I can't have it both ways.
Not wanting a pity party but I am happier knowing that I am not the only Nut Job out here.
For those of you good guys like UConn and SFNCGiant, good for you that you found a way...it is just not my way
And I am fucking miserable. I've never been in a better place really, but the Giants just won't cooperate and give their desperate fans even just a hollow winning regular season. Not even asking for postseason glory, but we can't even ask for 17-20 wins over a 2 years period, just something to distract us from all the losing, even if it's fake or short lived. Nope, just lose, a lot, and then lose some more.
When my life was shit, the Giants were at their best. I guess I can't have it both ways.
djm........do your friends and family know of your malady?
Do they think you are nuts?
When the Giants win, the coffee taste better, I enjoy the other games and sports talk during the week more, reveling in the victory.
I anticipate the next game even more, all aspects of life are just done with a bit more joy.
Because winning is a so rewarding, losing hurts I ve never allowed it to impact my relationships or my professional life. But no doubt it hurts when they lose, and I wouldn’t have it any other way
Yeah, I used to be emotionally affected by wins and losses; been a fan since the early 70s, and all the downs, ups, and downs since then. After a while it became very evident to me that a win or a loss wasn't worth the emotional investment I was giving it. A win didn't pay me anything, and a loss didn't cost me anything. None of the players or coaches meant anything to me (and I meant nothing to them).. they were simply characters on the TV screen or down there on the field wearing the helmet that I liked. Why care so much, especially since I had no ability to affect the outcome? I didn't do anything to help the Giants win.. so why did I care so much if they didn't?
In addition, the game has changed. The league has changed. Games are much less fun.. way too many injuries, egos, commercials. Announcers aren't entertaining anymore (how cool was Pat Summerall?), and the league forces us to listen to political and social commentary. Is that fun for anyone?
Once I realized all this and turned the corner, the emotional stresses of wins and losses diminished significantly.
Over the years, I've gotten so used to the Giants losing that it's tough for it to bother me. There's still terrible (for sports) events that'll throw me off, but it's usually more the offseason stuff that I know prolongs the agony or close losses that actually matter. Two examples are the Eagles swiping Devonta Smith after trading with the Cowboys, or the Rangers trading Buchnechiv for nothing.
The team sucks so much that I'm so used to it and numb to it. The Giants suck, they've sucked since he second half of 2012 except for one season. It's hard to give much of a shit anymore about losses at this point, for me at least.
My only suggestion is to try and cut out the negative shit (what you read probably being the biggest factor) and try to remind yourself that sports are for children and that adults just happen to make money off of them.
The Giants have just sucked so much ass over the years they forced me not to give a shit
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my life has meaning. I am blessed with a great family and great circle of close friends. I don't want much, don't need anything really. Good job. Great wife and kid. I look up every day and thank the universe and appreciate every thing I have.
And I am fucking miserable. I've never been in a better place really, but the Giants just won't cooperate and give their desperate fans even just a hollow winning regular season. Not even asking for postseason glory, but we can't even ask for 17-20 wins over a 2 years period, just something to distract us from all the losing, even if it's fake or short lived. Nope, just lose, a lot, and then lose some more.
When my life was shit, the Giants were at their best. I guess I can't have it both ways.
djm........do your friends and family know of your malady?
Do they think you are nuts?
Most of my friends and family are nyg fans like me. Only my wife and daughter couldn’t care less, everyone else is basically a die hard big blue fan. All we do is bitch and moan on text threads. Year after year. Wife says I’ve come a long way as I don’t seem as miserable after games anymore. That just means I’m used to this crap, but I’ve also been trying to live by the mantra enjoy the highs more than you despair the lows. Maybe... but life is so much better when the giants are kicking ass.
This reminds me of a post or something I once heard or read. “Why should I let my day be ruined because a bunch of millionaires running around in my favorite laundry sucked??”
However, I stopped letting it bother me years ago. Got numb to the losing and bad play. I care... but not enough now to let it bother me.
Go Giants!!
Agreed. I just can’t let the current group ruin my day. There is enough negative crap in the world. Right now it’s just laundry running around as far as I’m concerned. And I ain’t buyin anymore of it until they turn around. Used to be the giants sideline hat every year. That stopped in 2017. I’m done supporting this mess.
This f*ckin' team.
All my buddies, every old regular at every dive bar, and really every die hard fan I knew had a great relationship with disappointment — they’d commiserate.
Typically with a few beers (not required). But getting it out, complaining about it, and then tuning in the next game is the great luxury and right of cheering for a bad team.
The New York Giants will turn it around at some point, and that will be awesome. In the mean time enjoy the misery of losing, don’t let it make you miserable.
How about .... No?