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bubba0825 : 9/13/2021 7:57 pm
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Fans of both teams  
santacruzom : 9/14/2021 12:00 am : link
Got a little taste of what rooting for a Jones-led offense feels like, but I bet they're still happier with their QB than we are.
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crick n NC : 9/14/2021 12:00 am : link
In comment 15365729 bw in dc said:
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Are you saying that Wilson does not have a point?



He has a point. Just not a good one.


I'll go ahead and put you, bw in DC down for an individual qualified to correct Russell Wilson at his job.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The one thing Carr couldn’t do there is turn it over  
bw in dc : 9/14/2021 12:01 am : link
In comment 15365733 speedywheels said:
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Jones can't throw the ball that hard. ;)

Seriously, I wouldn't blame Jones for that...



So you're admitting you give a pass for all 6 INT'z that went off engram's hands! Glad to see you being so honest


If that specific play was Jones to Engram near the goal line, I would hold that play against the receiver.

I have always believed INTs should be considered turnovers if the receiver blew the catch. There should be a scorekeeper decision like it's done in baseball...
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speedywheels : 9/14/2021 12:01 am : link
In comment 15365731 Go Terps said:
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The dislike of Jackson is a little weird...

Also, Peyton and Eli might make more money with this gig than they did as players. They've got something.


It's not the hatred of Jackson. It's just the laughs watching you (and others) twisting yourself into a knot excusing the things that you criticize Jones for. The hypocrisy is pathetic.

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Route 9 : 9/14/2021 12:01 am : link
That game was funny. I was hoping the Raiders would lose lol
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bw in dc : 9/14/2021 12:02 am : link
In comment 15365737 crick n NC said:
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He has a point. Just not a good one.



I'll go ahead and put you, bw in DC down for an individual qualified to correct Russell Wilson at his job.


When it comes to throws near the goal line, Wilson should not be considered an expert. Ask the Patriots... ;)
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Route 9 : 9/14/2021 12:02 am : link
Jones blows. Get over it.
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santacruzom : 9/14/2021 12:02 am : link
In comment 15365740 speedywheels said:
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The dislike of Jackson is a little weird...

Also, Peyton and Eli might make more money with this gig than they did as players. They've got something.



It's not the hatred of Jackson. It's just the laughs watching you (and others) twisting yourself into a knot excusing the things that you criticize Jones for. The hypocrisy is pathetic.

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Where in this thread did that happen?
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Go Terps : 9/14/2021 12:03 am : link
In comment 15365740 speedywheels said:
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The dislike of Jackson is a little weird...

Also, Peyton and Eli might make more money with this gig than they did as players. They've got something.



It's not the hatred of Jackson. It's just the laughs watching you (and others) twisting yourself into a knot excusing the things that you criticize Jones for. The hypocrisy is pathetic.

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Jackson gets excused because the Ravens have won 75% of the games he's started in large part because the offense he's led scores about 30 PPG.

When Jones does that, he'll get excuses too.
 
christian : 9/14/2021 12:03 am : link
Very good game with some sloppy WB play down the stretch.
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crick n NC : 9/14/2021 12:03 am : link
In comment 15365743 bw in dc said:
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He has a point. Just not a good one.



I'll go ahead and put you, bw in DC down for an individual qualified to correct Russell Wilson at his job.



When it comes to throws near the goal line, Wilson should not be considered an expert. Ask the Patriots... ;)


Yep, clearly that is a weakness of his...
RE: SO if the Raiders come back and win this  
Go Terps : 9/14/2021 12:08 am : link
In comment 15365657 montanagiant said:
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Do we blame Lamar because of the fumble he just had?


You brought Jones into this thread with this idiocy. Don't complain about Jones being mentioned when you brought him up.
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speedywheels : 9/14/2021 12:09 am : link
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The dislike of Jackson is a little weird...

Also, Peyton and Eli might make more money with this gig than they did as players. They've got something.



It's not the hatred of Jackson. It's just the laughs watching you (and others) twisting yourself into a knot excusing the things that you criticize Jones for. The hypocrisy is pathetic.

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Where in this thread did that happen?


When he excused the first Lamar fumble during the scramble by saying that “he’s just trying to create points”

Jones did the same thing yesterday, but doesn’t get the same pass.
Easily the best pro football TV telecast ever!  
trueblueinpw : 9/14/2021 12:09 am : link
Fucking loved that broadcast! And what a great game! That was awesome!
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Bear vs Shark : 9/14/2021 12:10 am : link
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The dislike of Jackson is a little weird...

Also, Peyton and Eli might make more money with this gig than they did as players. They've got something.



It's not the hatred of Jackson. It's just the laughs watching you (and others) twisting yourself into a knot excusing the things that you criticize Jones for. The hypocrisy is pathetic.

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Where in this thread did that happen?



When he excused the first Lamar fumble during the scramble by saying that “he’s just trying to create points”

Jones did the same thing yesterday, but doesn’t get the same pass.
Pretty sure that post meant "in the process of scoring points", or at least that was the intention.

You live with fumbles when the team scores more.
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Go Terps : 9/14/2021 12:10 am : link
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The dislike of Jackson is a little weird...

Also, Peyton and Eli might make more money with this gig than they did as players. They've got something.



It's not the hatred of Jackson. It's just the laughs watching you (and others) twisting yourself into a knot excusing the things that you criticize Jones for. The hypocrisy is pathetic.

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Where in this thread did that happen?



When he excused the first Lamar fumble during the scramble by saying that “he’s just trying to create points”

Jones did the same thing yesterday, but doesn’t get the same pass.


That's because Jones really, really sucks.
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crick n NC : 9/14/2021 12:11 am : link
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No excuses needed for Jackson.


Terps, were you not referencing Jones here?
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speedywheels : 9/14/2021 12:12 am : link
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The dislike of Jackson is a little weird...

Also, Peyton and Eli might make more money with this gig than they did as players. They've got something.



It's not the hatred of Jackson. It's just the laughs watching you (and others) twisting yourself into a knot excusing the things that you criticize Jones for. The hypocrisy is pathetic.

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Jackson gets excused because the Ravens have won 75% of the games he's started in large part because the offense he's led scores about 30 PPG.

When Jones does that, he'll get excuses too.


And yet, for all that he’s done, he has a whopping ONE more playoff win than Jones.

Impressive.
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montanagiant : 9/14/2021 12:12 am : link
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That a reality-based Jones is held to a different standard than a hypothetical Jackson?


You don't think that's a fair question?



I mean, I guess if they lost his mistake ought to be held as a reason why.

But since that didn't happen, here we are.


Yes indeed, here we are!
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speedywheels : 9/14/2021 12:13 am : link
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The dislike of Jackson is a little weird...

Also, Peyton and Eli might make more money with this gig than they did as players. They've got something.



It's not the hatred of Jackson. It's just the laughs watching you (and others) twisting yourself into a knot excusing the things that you criticize Jones for. The hypocrisy is pathetic.

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Where in this thread did that happen?



When he excused the first Lamar fumble during the scramble by saying that “he’s just trying to create points”

Jones did the same thing yesterday, but doesn’t get the same pass.



That's because Jones really, really sucks.


Cough cough - hypocrite - cough cough.
STATS  
Prude : 9/14/2021 12:13 am : link
This game has had more turnovers in overtime from than Daniel Jones has had all season.
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speedywheels : 9/14/2021 12:15 am : link
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The dislike of Jackson is a little weird...

Also, Peyton and Eli might make more money with this gig than they did as players. They've got something.



It's not the hatred of Jackson. It's just the laughs watching you (and others) twisting yourself into a knot excusing the things that you criticize Jones for. The hypocrisy is pathetic.

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Where in this thread did that happen?



When he excused the first Lamar fumble during the scramble by saying that “he’s just trying to create points”

Jones did the same thing yesterday, but doesn’t get the same pass.

Pretty sure that post meant "in the process of scoring points", or at least that was the intention.


Jones fumbled in the red zone; is that not in the process of scoring points?
You live with fumbles when the team scores more.
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santacruzom : 9/14/2021 12:15 am : link
In comment 15365750 speedywheels said:
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When he excused the first Lamar fumble during the scramble by saying that “he’s just trying to create points”

Jones did the same thing yesterday, but doesn’t get the same pass.


I don't read that as an excuse about a particular play. I read that as a distinction being made between the two players. Jackson is a winning QB whose offense has put up a ton of points, many made directly by him. Is anyone going to say the same of Jones, even if you think "he just sucks" is unfair?
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speedywheels : 9/14/2021 12:17 am : link
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The dislike of Jackson is a little weird...

Also, Peyton and Eli might make more money with this gig than they did as players. They've got something.



It's not the hatred of Jackson. It's just the laughs watching you (and others) twisting yourself into a knot excusing the things that you criticize Jones for. The hypocrisy is pathetic.

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Where in this thread did that happen?



When he excused the first Lamar fumble during the scramble by saying that “he’s just trying to create points”

Jones did the same thing yesterday, but doesn’t get the same pass.

Pretty sure that post meant "in the process of scoring points", or at least that was the intention.

You live with fumbles when the team scores more.


Jones fumbled in the red zone, is that not in the process of trying to score points?
SO, If Lamar fumbles twice  
montanagiant : 9/14/2021 12:17 am : link
Each time resulting in a Raiders score (one of them in overtime) and the Raiders win the game does that mean he cost the Ravens the game?
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speedywheels : 9/14/2021 12:19 am : link
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The dislike of Jackson is a little weird...

Also, Peyton and Eli might make more money with this gig than they did as players. They've got something.



It's not the hatred of Jackson. It's just the laughs watching you (and others) twisting yourself into a knot excusing the things that you criticize Jones for. The hypocrisy is pathetic.

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Jackson gets excused because the Ravens have won 75% of the games he's started in large part because the offense he's led scores about 30 PPG.

When Jones does that, he'll get excuses too.


Jackson also has a defense that gets him the ball more than four times in a half.
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Go Terps : 9/14/2021 12:19 am : link
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No excuses needed for Jackson.



Terps, were you not referencing Jones here?


Yes. And Barkley too. Referencing the entire mess that began the day we passed on Jackson for an overrated running back. That's been a theme on this board for every primetime game Jackson has played since he became the starter. I suspect it's part of the reason so many players are so quick to knock him - because he's better than Barkley and Jones combined. Fork in the road.
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speedywheels : 9/14/2021 12:20 am : link
In comment 15365765 montanagiant said:
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Each time resulting in a Raiders score (one of them in overtime) and the Raiders win the game does that mean he cost the Ravens the game?


No. According to some, anyway.

RE: RE: RE: RE: Is that some kind of complaint  
santacruzom : 9/14/2021 12:21 am : link
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That a reality-based Jones is held to a different standard than a hypothetical Jackson?


You don't think that's a fair question?



I mean, I guess if they lost his mistake ought to be held as a reason why.

But since that didn't happen, here we are.



Yes indeed, here we are!


Jackson's 2nd fumble was definitely Jonesesque since it was a game-turner. But the first one you referenced? It didn't change the lead to the Raiders, he answered with a score, and he even led them to a go ahead FG with 30 seconds left.

If Jones does all that only to lose in OT because the opposing QB makes 2 awesome throws and the opposing kicker makes a 55 yards -- and does it on the road on national TV -- I'm sure most wouldn't say that earlier fumble defines him. But I imagine we'll never know.
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Bear vs Shark : 9/14/2021 12:22 am : link
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The dislike of Jackson is a little weird...

Also, Peyton and Eli might make more money with this gig than they did as players. They've got something.



It's not the hatred of Jackson. It's just the laughs watching you (and others) twisting yourself into a knot excusing the things that you criticize Jones for. The hypocrisy is pathetic.

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Where in this thread did that happen?



When he excused the first Lamar fumble during the scramble by saying that “he’s just trying to create points”

Jones did the same thing yesterday, but doesn’t get the same pass.

Pretty sure that post meant "in the process of scoring points", or at least that was the intention.

You live with fumbles when the team scores more.



Jones fumbled in the red zone, is that not in the process of trying to score points?
Who gives a shit about the intent? What I'm saying is that if your QB recently won an MVP and puts ups a shitload of points on a consistent basis, you live with the fumbles etc.

Everyone on the field is trying to score points on offense
*posters not players  
Go Terps : 9/14/2021 12:22 am : link
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RE: SO, If Lamar fumbles twice  
bw in dc : 9/14/2021 12:23 am : link
In comment 15365765 montanagiant said:
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Each time resulting in a Raiders score (one of them in overtime) and the Raiders win the game does that mean he cost the Ravens the game?


Those were costly turnovers tonight - yes.

So Jackson, a former MVP, is now 30-8 as a starter.
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speedywheels : 9/14/2021 12:23 am : link
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No excuses needed for Jackson.



Terps, were you not referencing Jones here?



Yes. And Barkley too. Referencing the entire mess that began the day we passed on Jackson for an overrated running back. That's been a theme on this board for every primetime game Jackson has played since he became the starter. I suspect it's part of the reason so many players are so quick to knock him - because he's better than Barkley and Jones combined. Fork in the road.


So you accused another poster of bringing up Jones; at least you’re admitting it was you all along.

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montanagiant : 9/14/2021 12:24 am : link
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When he excused the first Lamar fumble during the scramble by saying that “he’s just trying to create points”

Jones did the same thing yesterday, but doesn’t get the same pass.



I don't read that as an excuse about a particular play. I read that as a distinction being made between the two players. Jackson is a winning QB whose offense has put up a ton of points, many made directly by him. Is anyone going to say the same of Jones, even if you think "he just sucks" is unfair?


In 2021 each team has played one (1) game. If you claim Jones cost the game yesterday because he fumbled in the red zone (which the Broncos O did nothing with) how on Earth do you not lay the same opinion on Lamar for his game tonight?

As of right now, past seasons don't mean squat. That's stuff all of us can throw around when more data for this season becomes available. Lamar Jackson and his play cost the Ravens the game tonight and that can't be just brushed over
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santacruzom : 9/14/2021 12:24 am : link
I'm pretty confident that by this time next year these debates will no longer exist on this board, and not for the reason that Jones fans hope for.
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montanagiant : 9/14/2021 12:25 am : link
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Each time resulting in a Raiders score (one of them in overtime) and the Raiders win the game does that mean he cost the Ravens the game?



Those were costly turnovers tonight - yes.

So Jackson, a former MVP, is now 30-8 as a starter.

So a former MVP means what in the standings for 2021?
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speedywheels : 9/14/2021 12:25 am : link
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Each time resulting in a Raiders score (one of them in overtime) and the Raiders win the game does that mean he cost the Ravens the game?



Those were costly turnovers tonight - yes.

So Jackson, a former MVP, is now 30-8 as a starter.


And has a grand total of one playoff win. Yay…
I wouldn't say Jones fumble  
santacruzom : 9/14/2021 12:25 am : link
Cost them the game... they would have had to have been ahead for that to be the case. But it cost them a mere chance to even be in the game.
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montanagiant : 9/14/2021 12:26 am : link
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That a reality-based Jones is held to a different standard than a hypothetical Jackson?


You don't think that's a fair question?



I mean, I guess if they lost his mistake ought to be held as a reason why.

But since that didn't happen, here we are.



Yes indeed, here we are!



Jackson's 2nd fumble was definitely Jonesesque since it was a game-turner. But the first one you referenced? It didn't change the lead to the Raiders, he answered with a score, and he even led them to a go ahead FG with 30 seconds left.

If Jones does all that only to lose in OT because the opposing QB makes 2 awesome throws and the opposing kicker makes a 55 yards -- and does it on the road on national TV -- I'm sure most wouldn't say that earlier fumble defines him. But I imagine we'll never know.

Come on Santa, that first fumble turned the whole game around. Ravens were in control at that point.
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montanagiant : 9/14/2021 12:27 am : link
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Cost them the game... they would have had to have been ahead for that to be the case. But it cost them a mere chance to even be in the game.

I agree to a degree with this. It cost the team in confidence and momentum
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bw in dc : 9/14/2021 12:28 am : link
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Each time resulting in a Raiders score (one of them in overtime) and the Raiders win the game does that mean he cost the Ravens the game?



Those were costly turnovers tonight - yes.

So Jackson, a former MVP, is now 30-8 as a starter.


So a former MVP means what in the standings for 2021?


I tell you what it means. It means Jackson has built up enough good equity where it's easier to give him a pass on what happened tonight.
Jeez, I'm not sure what you're looking for montana  
santacruzom : 9/14/2021 12:28 am : link
Some kind of admission that we should be equally critical of Jackson as we are with because they both made mistakes and their teams are both 0-1? You don't think that's a reasonable thing to ask do you?
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bw in dc : 9/14/2021 12:30 am : link
In comment 15365780 speedywheels said:
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Those were costly turnovers tonight - yes.

So Jackson, a former MVP, is now 30-8 as a starter.



And has a grand total of one playoff win. Yay…


I agree. The former MVP needs to perform better in the playoffs.
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santacruzom : 9/14/2021 12:30 am : link
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Cost them the game... they would have had to have been ahead for that to be the case. But it cost them a mere chance to even be in the game.


I agree to a degree with this. It cost the team in confidence and momentum


Oh yeah, it was costly, but it didn't lose them a winnable game. He's one of the worst red zone QBs in the league... why even assume a TD if he didn't fumble?.
RE: Jeez, I'm not sure what you're looking for montana  
montanagiant : 9/14/2021 12:32 am : link
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Some kind of admission that we should be equally critical of Jackson as we are with because they both made mistakes and their teams are both 0-1? You don't think that's a reasonable thing to ask do you?

With regards to this season yes indeed Jackson should be slammed for tonight's performance. Those fumbles were 100% the difference in a win or a loss
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santacruzom : 9/14/2021 12:33 am : link
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That a reality-based Jones is held to a different standard than a hypothetical Jackson?


You don't think that's a fair question?



I mean, I guess if they lost his mistake ought to be held as a reason why.

But since that didn't happen, here we are.



Yes indeed, here we are!



Jackson's 2nd fumble was definitely Jonesesque since it was a game-turner. But the first one you referenced? It didn't change the lead to the Raiders, he answered with a score, and he even led them to a go ahead FG with 30 seconds left.

If Jones does all that only to lose in OT because the opposing QB makes 2 awesome throws and the opposing kicker makes a 55 yards -- and does it on the road on national TV -- I'm sure most wouldn't say that earlier fumble defines him. But I imagine we'll never know.


Come on Santa, that first fumble turned the whole game around. Ravens were in control at that point.


They did a good job regaining it though, on the road. But the Raiders kept answering... in pretty dramatic fashion too. Give them some credit.
There are 50 threads to shit on Jones/or fanboy defend him  
Giantfan in skinland : 9/14/2021 12:33 am : link
This thread is to appreciate what we just got to watch on the broadcast. Pure gold. I wish they were on all Sunday long. Just fantastic.
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montanagiant : 9/14/2021 12:34 am : link
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Each time resulting in a Raiders score (one of them in overtime) and the Raiders win the game does that mean he cost the Ravens the game?



Those were costly turnovers tonight - yes.

So Jackson, a former MVP, is now 30-8 as a starter.


So a former MVP means what in the standings for 2021?



I tell you what it means. It means Jackson has built up enough good equity where it's easier to give him a pass on what happened tonight.


What 2021 stat line with regards to the W/L column takes into account "Equity"?

Once again, WTF does his past have to do with tonight's game?
RE: RE: Jeez, I'm not sure what you're looking for montana  
santacruzom : 9/14/2021 12:35 am : link
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Some kind of admission that we should be equally critical of Jackson as we are with because they both made mistakes and their teams are both 0-1? You don't think that's a reasonable thing to ask do you?


With regards to this season yes indeed Jackson should be slammed for tonight's performance. Those fumbles were 100% the difference in a win or a loss


If you read recaps of the game and none of them make any mention of the fumbles you'd probably have a valid complaint.

But if your expectation is that the same percentage of Ravens fans should be as down on their QB as Giants fans are on Jones, I don't think you'll be satisfied.
RE: There are 50 threads to shit on Jones/or fanboy defend him  
montanagiant : 9/14/2021 12:38 am : link
In comment 15365793 Giantfan in skinland said:
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This thread is to appreciate what we just got to watch on the broadcast. Pure gold. I wish they were on all Sunday long. Just fantastic.

You know what? Excellent point and I will stick to the OP's discussion.

I agree 100% of how good this broadcast was. So much more entertaining than a regular broadcast. Just listening to them describe what they would do or simple strategies we would never know without their insight (IE: "You never go hardcount on the 1 yard line") was great.
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