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gidiefor : Mod : 9/13/2021 10:18 pm
I know the first game of the season sucked scissors, but I just don't believe that with all the steady strides this team has shown, that it could flush itself down the tubes as the whole team starts playing together. I believe they are going to get it right and that this year's iteration of the Giants will keep improving.

Go Giants!
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The worse thing  
ajr2456 : 9/14/2021 9:47 am : link
That happened to this fan base and franchise was then beating up on a historically bad division and almost making the playoffs last year. Gave everyone a false sense of progress when in reality they were a bad football team last year and are a bad football team again.
Worst*  
ajr2456 : 9/14/2021 9:47 am : link
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RE: The worse thing  
TyreeHelmet : 9/14/2021 9:56 am : link
In comment 15366014 ajr2456 said:
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That happened to this fan base and franchise was then beating up on a historically bad division and almost making the playoffs last year. Gave everyone a false sense of progress when in reality they were a bad football team last year and are a bad football team again.


Spot on. I saw people on here posting comparing the situation to the Packers week 1 blowout. I'm all for being optimistic but it isn't just "1 week" with this offense. Frankly its been the majority of Jones pro and college career.

I hope I'm wrong but quarterbacks don't traditionally completely turn around the things he is bad at.
RE: The worse thing  
Greg from LI : 9/14/2021 9:58 am : link
In comment 15366014 ajr2456 said:
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That happened to this fan base and franchise was then beating up on a historically bad division and almost making the playoffs last year. Gave everyone a false sense of progress when in reality they were a bad football team last year and are a bad football team again.


I agree. The people that harp on almost making the playoffs and "5-3 to end the season!" were fooling themselves.
some of you crack me up  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/14/2021 10:04 am : link
it's like your breakfast was swiped from you just as you were sitting down to eat it

: )

I had canadian bacon and fresh chevre on a toasted bagel today -- yum
RE: some of you crack me up  
rsjem1979 : 9/14/2021 10:08 am : link
In comment 15366045 gidiefor said:
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it's like your breakfast was swiped from you just as you were sitting down to eat it

: )

I had canadian bacon and fresh chevre on a toasted bagel today -- yum


The Giants keep feeding us shitburgers and some of you insist that it's ribeye.
RE: RE: RE: My faith took a serious hit  
nygiants16 : 9/14/2021 10:10 am : link
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I doubt they will always be as bad as they were last week, but can I say with a straight face that this team has a chance to win the the division? Injuries aside, I have a hard time envisioning them pulling that off, outside of some unexpected collapse from others. We are a clear 4th in the running, IMO.



you are basing this off of one game where most of the weapons this was their first game on the field...




You people never run out of excuses. Now it's that they didn't have enough time together in the preseason. And in a month when Shepard and/or Golladay miss time with an injury there will be that excuse. Then when they come back there will be rust. Then they'll put it together offensively for 1-2 games late in the season and you'll all say the arrow is pointing up for next year, thus continuing the cycle.


It is not an excuse when it is the truth
...the season sucked scissors?  
Jimmy Googs : 9/14/2021 10:13 am : link
That's alot of alliteration...
RE: RE: some of you crack me up  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/14/2021 10:16 am : link
In comment 15366054 rsjem1979 said:
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it's like your breakfast was swiped from you just as you were sitting down to eat it

: )

I had canadian bacon and fresh chevre on a toasted bagel today -- yum



The Giants keep feeding us shitburgers and some of you insist that it's ribeye.


No one said or implied that at all. That insistence is all in your mind. In fact I have written multiple times that this last game was an abomination. I'm shrugging it off, because I just just don't believe that things are going to be as bleak going forward. There are ample reasons to believe this team is going to improve.
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Go Terps : 9/14/2021 10:40 am : link
Still waiting to hear about the steady strides this team has made...
RE: I still believe too  
Wmpinto98 : 9/14/2021 10:40 am : link
In comment 15365618 Scooter185 said:
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I still believe we'll have a new GM drafting a new QB in 2022


Amen
I came into this season very hopeful  
Walker Gillette : 9/14/2021 11:24 am : link
and I know it's only one game but that performance by the Defense scared the hell out of me. The Dbacks running around looking confused and a step slow was deja vu all over again and not in a happy way. I was hoping that the D would come out of the gates strong and give the O some time to gel, if that doesn't happen and happen ASAP this season is sunk.

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nygiants16 : 9/14/2021 11:34 am : link
In comment 15365840 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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For the love of God, don't compare the '21 Giants to the '07 Giants. Just don't.


to be fair in 07 and 11 did you think those teams would win the superbowl? hell no, after week 2 im sure you had the same reaction you had after week 1 this year..

hell in 2011 there were posts here saying they hooed the team missed the playoffs because they would just lose round 1...

Do i think this team is going to superbowl? no, do i think they can make the playoffs? yes..

the point of bringing up 07 is simply to say it is week 1
I want to believe. I really do.  
Heisenberg : 9/14/2021 11:35 am : link
It's getting hard. They need to beat WFT.
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ajr2456 : 9/14/2021 11:37 am : link
In comment 15366232 nygiants16 said:
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For the love of God, don't compare the '21 Giants to the '07 Giants. Just don't.



to be fair in 07 and 11 did you think those teams would win the superbowl? hell no, after week 2 im sure you had the same reaction you had after week 1 this year..

hell in 2011 there were posts here saying they hooed the team missed the playoffs because they would just lose round 1...

Do i think this team is going to superbowl? no, do i think they can make the playoffs? yes..

the point of bringing up 07 is simply to say it is week 1


Those teams could score points.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
nygiants16 : 9/14/2021 11:39 am : link
In comment 15366236 ajr2456 said:
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For the love of God, don't compare the '21 Giants to the '07 Giants. Just don't.



to be fair in 07 and 11 did you think those teams would win the superbowl? hell no, after week 2 im sure you had the same reaction you had after week 1 this year..

hell in 2011 there were posts here saying they hooed the team missed the playoffs because they would just lose round 1...

Do i think this team is going to superbowl? no, do i think they can make the playoffs? yes..

the point of bringing up 07 is simply to say it is week 1



Those teams could score points.


So you knew after week 2 when they got blown out at home that theu were going to make the playoffs? BS

no one said this team is winning the superbowl, simply stating you have no idea what this team is after 1 week
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ajr2456 : 9/14/2021 11:41 am : link
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For the love of God, don't compare the '21 Giants to the '07 Giants. Just don't.



to be fair in 07 and 11 did you think those teams would win the superbowl? hell no, after week 2 im sure you had the same reaction you had after week 1 this year..

hell in 2011 there were posts here saying they hooed the team missed the playoffs because they would just lose round 1...

Do i think this team is going to superbowl? no, do i think they can make the playoffs? yes..

the point of bringing up 07 is simply to say it is week 1



Those teams could score points.



So you knew after week 2 when they got blown out at home that theu were going to make the playoffs? BS

no one said this team is winning the superbowl, simply stating you have no idea what this team is after 1 week


The 2007 team scored 35 points on the toted week 1.

We know what this team is because Sunday was the same exact performance we’ve seen for 4 years.
RE: In 2007, we were demolished at home 41-17  
Debaser : 9/14/2021 11:54 am : link
In comment 15365655 BigBlueNH said:
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by the Vikings, dropping us to 7-4. (The Vikings entered that game 4-6.) I'm sure no one on BBI after that game was talking about us as a Super Bowl contender. I'll wait for more games before throwing in the towel on this season.


2007 Giants were a good football team with a decent coach. They were very inconsistent. THey had there lags and droughts and go on losing streaks. They were injured. They also had big time come from behind wins against good teams in tough hard fought games. That is not the same as this team at all. They were NOT ready to play Sunday. This team has been a bad football team for years now. And have not improved at all really. The defense looked JV. Daniel Jones is still bird dogging receivers and fumbling. barkley shown to be all hype. You would think one thing would bail them out.
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Route 9 : 9/14/2021 11:57 am : link
If you asked me in 2007 and 2011 if the Giants could win the Super Bowl after losing the first game, I would've told you: Yep. Now? I'd tell you to lay off the meth.

Those teams had talent and great coaching back then. Eli threw a touchdown on his first pass of the year in 2007. Maybe second or third throw. I cannot remember.

I knew the defense would get itself together. No way they would play that bad. Dallas and Green Bay we're good. Getting spanked by Denver makes absolutely no sense.

Same thing with 2011. Hakeem Nicks was such an outstanding player. I miss having a player like him on the roster.

One egg is way bigger than the other here. Whatever the hell that means, I don't know. You figure it out. Jones is not Eli Manning and never will be.
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cjac : 9/14/2021 12:16 pm : link
In comment 15366278 Route 9 said:
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Jones is not Eli Manning and never will be.


What we have to hope and pray, is that they know that, and bail on him earlier rather than later. We stuck with Eli about 2 years too long.

They have to get another QB on the roster next year whether it’s a draft pick or a free agent.
RE: RE: ......  
Debaser : 9/14/2021 12:24 pm : link
In comment 15366299 cjac said:
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Jones is not Eli Manning and never will be.



What we have to hope and pray, is that they know that, and bail on him earlier rather than later. We stuck with Eli about 2 years too long.

They have to get another QB on the roster next year whether it’s a draft pick or a free agent.


What the heck would the giants done if they did bail on him on 2 years earlier? Bring in a journeyman to groom Darnold?
RE: 2007 was a very different situation  
djm : 9/14/2021 1:04 pm : link
In comment 15365644 Greg from LI said:
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They weren't coming off of many years of futility then.


More importantly they were 19-13 prior to that 07 season, under Coughlin.
RE: RE: I believe…  
Brown_Hornet : 9/14/2021 1:38 pm : link
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…the alternatives are picking a new team or be miserable.

Id rather believe in the team and enjoy the games as they come.




You enjoyed yesterday?
I did!
RE: RE: some of you crack me up  
Brown_Hornet : 9/14/2021 1:42 pm : link
In comment 15366054 rsjem1979 said:
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it's like your breakfast was swiped from you just as you were sitting down to eat it

: )

I had canadian bacon and fresh chevre on a toasted bagel today -- yum



The Giants keep feeding us shitburgers and some of you insist that it's ribeye.
Feed yourself.
Problem solved.

Sounds like gidie had a nice sandwich…
…sounds like you ate shit.

Pro tip, don’t do that.
RE: RE: RE: I believe…  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/14/2021 1:45 pm : link
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…the alternatives are picking a new team or be miserable.

Id rather believe in the team and enjoy the games as they come.




You enjoyed yesterday?

I did!


You enjoyed that the team lost?
Hell no…  
Brown_Hornet : 9/14/2021 1:55 pm : link
…that sucked!

But, I got to head to a nice sportsbar with my wife and have a few pops.

A few of my players showed up as well…which was cool.

I wasn’t asked specifically about the game. That was a shit show.
RE: RE: ......  
Route 9 : 9/14/2021 2:28 pm : link
In comment 15366299 cjac said:
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What we have to hope and pray, is that they know that, and bail on him earlier rather than later. We stuck with Eli about 2 years too long.

They have to get another QB on the roster next year whether it’s a draft pick or a free agent.


Jones will never and should never reach that point here. Actually, he's been here 2 years too long, already.

He seems like a decent "kid", athlete, and I wanted him to thrive here. He just stinks.

Same thing with Engram. Where is the written law that says we should stick with these players for so long? We just have to watch the Giants keep losing with the same players for such a long time? It's not working. I'm very confident in the fact that Jones will run off somewhere and be Tom Brady. Or well even, Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers. etc. I do not watch many non-Giant games anymore but when I turn on those games there is light years difference between Jones and those guys listed above.

Jones is 8-19 or something awful as a starter with half of those wins comprised of wins against one team, lol.
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