Things are going to turn ugly, fans, media, etc if we have a repeat of Sunday. The idea of an 0-2 start five years in a row is a scary thought. There has been a lot of optimism with JJ thus far, but with all the $$ they spent in FA, if the product continues to look exactly the same... well, results speak, and we have no equity here.
I realize many were heavily invested in the playoff race last year, and I do get it, but I was not one of them as there was little substance behind it, in my eyes. But this game this on Thursday --there's an awful lot at stake here, it seems for a week 2 contest. We're sitting here, it's only Tuesday, and I'm already feeling the nerves. I want this one... Bad.
Usually I'm not one to overreact, and I get that it's a long season, but 0-2 in this division with everything else uncertain on the team will be no bueno.
you added all these weapons, they have to score
On defense, well there's no excuse, they're playing a backup QB.
have had a fair amount of high draft choices,
makes it even more important for this franchise to start winning.
Its getting absurd now....
you added all these weapons, they have to score
I agree with this. A win would be nice, but if they win a game showing the same issues; how much is it worth? The season is obviously very early and this team could hit its stride at 4 games or so, but there just is not much to look back at to support the notion that the team will turn it around.
On defense, well there's no excuse, they're playing a backup QB.
Jon, I agree but, they had a nice start on that long pass to Slayton. Garrett's fucked up idea of running KT out there and then giving him the ball like was an absolute killer. The players have to play but the coaches have to get their heaeds out of their asses and see how plays and style builds on each other. They literally started putting a Jenga stack together and immediately tried to pull the first one out of the stack from the bottom. It killed the drive, the momentum and to me laid the ground work for later calls and plays..
That Washington may feel exactly the same way as us?
On defense, well there's no excuse, they're playing a backup QB.
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No one expects their LT to be the guy to lead an offense.
It has to be Daniel Jones.
The Giants need to win a game bc of DJ, not in spite of him.
The Giants will make some good plays and some bad ones and probably win a very close game in unconvincing fashion.
And then a lot of people on BBI will think everything is fine...
100%. Garrett's scheme worked in Dallas because he had a good OL with some good offensive weapons. He doesn't have that here, and he's not a good enough play caller to rise above that. That doesn't absolve offensive players for poor performances.
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and be a catalyst for the offense as well as the OL. Jones and the offense must start quicker, their margin for error is too slim for zombie starts.
On defense, well there's no excuse, they're playing a backup QB.
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No one expects their LT to be the guy to lead an offense.
It has to be Daniel Jones.
The Giants need to win a game bc of DJ, not in spite of him.
The OL is a big problem until it isn't, same for Jones. They all need to get out of their own way, pronto.
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and be a catalyst for the offense as well as the OL. Jones and the offense must start quicker, their margin for error is too slim for zombie starts.
On defense, well there's no excuse, they're playing a backup QB.
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No one expects their LT to be the guy to lead an offense.
It has to be Daniel Jones.
The Giants need to win a game bc of DJ, not in spite of him.
The OL is a big problem until it isn't, same for Jones. They all need to get out of their own way, pronto.
Andrew Thomas was one of the few guys who played well week 1. He also played well against Washington in both games last year. Not sure why you are singling him out. He’s the least of this teams worries.
That Washington may feel exactly the same way as us?
I for one would feel a little better about the future around here if we had Washington's pass rush, coming off a division title (plus home playoff game). It's becoming clear that neither team has its the quarterback of the future on the roster...
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and be a catalyst for the offense as well as the OL. Jones and the offense must start quicker, their margin for error is too slim for zombie starts.
On defense, well there's no excuse, they're playing a backup QB.
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No one expects their LT to be the guy to lead an offense.
It has to be Daniel Jones.
The Giants need to win a game bc of DJ, not in spite of him.
The OL is a big problem until it isn't, same for Jones. They all need to get out of their own way, pronto.
Andrew Thomas was one of the few guys who played well week 1. He also played well against Washington in both games last year. Not sure why you are singling him out. He’s the least of this teams worries.
Because high draft picks need to be difference makers, and the Giants still can't run the football. Pretty simple, he's still on the "needs to do much more" list.
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and be a catalyst for the offense as well as the OL. Jones and the offense must start quicker, their margin for error is too slim for zombie starts.
On defense, well there's no excuse, they're playing a backup QB.
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No one expects their LT to be the guy to lead an offense.
It has to be Daniel Jones.
The Giants need to win a game bc of DJ, not in spite of him.
The OL is a big problem until it isn't, same for Jones. They all need to get out of their own way, pronto.
Andrew Thomas was one of the few guys who played well week 1. He also played well against Washington in both games last year. Not sure why you are singling him out. He’s the least of this teams worries.
Because high draft picks need to be difference makers, and the Giants still can't run the football. Pretty simple, he's still on the "needs to do much more" list.
Exactly. Being passable against a backup edge shouldn’t be the bar for a top 4 pick.
Yes, and he played better than Fitzpatrick this past Sunday.
agreed. And I also agree they need to win. can't go 0-2 again.
definitely. Put the pass rushers on their heels a little bit, make them work.
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and be a catalyst for the offense as well as the OL. Jones and the offense must start quicker, their margin for error is too slim for zombie starts.
On defense, well there's no excuse, they're playing a backup QB.
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No one expects their LT to be the guy to lead an offense.
It has to be Daniel Jones.
The Giants need to win a game bc of DJ, not in spite of him.
The OL is a big problem until it isn't, same for Jones. They all need to get out of their own way, pronto.
Andrew Thomas was one of the few guys who played well week 1. He also played well against Washington in both games last year. Not sure why you are singling him out. He’s the least of this teams worries.
Because high draft picks need to be difference makers, and the Giants still can't run the football. Pretty simple, he's still on the "needs to do much more" list.
A win here allows the noise to stop even if it’s brief.
A win here allows the noise to stop even if it’s brief.
An 0-2 start and the weight of media and fan scrutiny certainly would come crashing down on the team
I doubt that. Judge is much more respectful to the media than McAdoo & Shurmur were. They may turn on him, but it won’t be due to attitude.
Andrew Thomas was one of the few guys who played well week 1. He also played well against Washington in both games last year. Not sure why you are singling him out. He’s the least of this teams worries.
Examining who's fault it is, and having that be a different set of players each week is pointless.
They need to all play better as individuals for the team to be consistently better. It's not okay that Thomas just wasn't an issue on Sunday...he should be a major asset that we use and take advantage of moreso in terms of play calls then.
Our best players need to play like the best players in the league, and the good players need to play like other teams' good players.
Otherwise we don't really have any best or good players...
On defense, well there's no excuse, they're playing a backup QB.
If Andrew Thomas and not Daniel Jones has to be the catalyst for this offence then expect the Giants to win a grand total of 6 games again. It will be Deja vu all over again and not in a good way.