What the hell are we going to do here? Both Peart and Solder look like a complete disaster. How can we conceivable expect to be competitive? There is not a team in this league expected to win much less get to the playoffs with this atrocious of a dilemma as we have on the right side. How do we solve this in season, how?
Gates already admitted to being the one who messed up.
Gates already admitted to being the one who messed up.
No not at all, I am not THAT bad. it is his overall performance and obvious concern he is not ready.
Gates already admitted to being the one who messed up.
So...you are saying swing Gates out to RT? I don't hate it.
This coaching staff has made a decision to go with Peart and Solder. Let’s see how it plays out…
I'm more concerned about our guards right now.
So you are writing off Peart?
I think that is a bit premature.
This coaching staff has made a decision to go with Peart and Solder. Let’s see how it plays out…
I agree. Gates struggled at RT before being moved to OC, why would he be any better out there now?
Other options include Gates or calling up Jackson Barton from the PS.
Hernandez also didn't play well on Sunday.
Don't stay out too late...
I'm more concerned about our guards right now.
IMO all 3 guards looked ok in pass pro most of game -open some holes too RB missed em
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Peart does not improve and is not capable of holding down the RT position at the level we need to bookend this already very young, inexperienced and unsteady oline, and I think we can all agree that Solder is equally incapable of performing at a level we could call competent or at least league average, is this not considered a disaster considering the expectation, assets and money spent on this rebuild?
So you are writing off Peart?
I think that is a bit premature.
absolutely this
Don't stay out too late...
Probably true. In that case, I'd rather have Peart. There is at least some chance he can play the position. I don't think Solder can.
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Peart and Solder are your dates for the next 16 games at Right Tackle.
Don't stay out too late...
Probably true. In that case, I'd rather have Peart. There is at least some chance he can play the position. I don't think Solder can.
Of course. We might as well find out now if Peart can hold his own over the season.
Already know that Solder can't, so why bother with him unless Peart gets dinged or need to be spelled...
Its kind of a microcosm of all the issues in the organization. Short term planning or long term?
If I didn't know better, I would think Mara has interfered with Judge about winning sooner rather than later or some crap like that. I can't see ANY logic to playing Solder. Peart has a lot to learn, but as he does he will get better. Solder is just a turnstile.
Bingo. Solder missed all of last season, basically admitted to not training, got injured in camp, and STILL beat out Peart, even after they tried to hand Peart the job.
Now does that mean the team gives up on him? No. But clearly his development has not gone according to plan thus far.
I don’t see how anyone can be encouraged by this series of events.
I'm more concerned about our guards right now.
Can believe it was Gates if you look back Gates was really the only one who moved, the rest of the line was static
Find someone else to brinf to share snaps if need be but dont waste them on Solder. He is not improved by playing RT. He has been hot garbage since he got here.
A lot of people are down on the OL. The Giants problems on Sunday stemmed from....
1. Defense not being able to get off the field on 3rd/4th down and allowing Denver to control the Time of Possession.
2. Offense squandering the few opportunities they had with conservative play-call (Garrett), untimely turnover (Jones), and poor redone execution.
Really hoping the Bears go 2-15 and Giants can land Big Evan Neal with that pick.
Thomas- Lemieux- Gates- Bredeson -Neal with Peart as the swing is a pretty good start to an OL.
or whatever the hell he says.
do you have a learning disability?
Already know that Solder can't, so why bother with him unless Peart gets dinged or need to be spelled...
You’re right, Solder is a backup not a starter and Peart gives them a better chance but there will be growing pains. The Giants need to deal with them though because they don’t have any better options and they need to find out if Peart is their guy at RT long term.
do you have a learning disability?
Don’t forget the posters bashing Thomas after one half of a preseason game while lamenting the Giants passing on Becton.
Linemen need time to develop but people are so impatient these days that they want and expect them to thrive during their rookie seasons. David Diehl, Rich Seubert, Shaun O’Hara, Kareem McKenzie, Nick Gates either didn’t start at all for at least their rookie season or they played guard.
Peart worked hard to add more muscle to his huge frame plus he has the feet and athleticism to play on the left side. Hopefully he is the answer because that would fill a huge hole and he is very cheap for two more years after this one.
There is no waiver wire to watch this time of year.
Any OTs available are on practice squads. You can have your choice, But in order to make that choice you have to add the guy you choose to your active roster immediately.
And maybe this works. Look around the league. Has it worked for anybody? What stud OT has spent time on one or more teams' practice aquads at some point in his career? Are there any?
Don't know the answer.
Other options include Gates or calling up Jackson Barton from the PS.
Hernandez also didn't play well on Sunday.
It might be a coincidence, but every OT who has played next to Hernandez, on both sides of the line, has played poorly.
I don't know whether that's an indictment of Hernandez and that he's making them look worse than they are, or whether he's being hampered by poor OT play next to him.
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is awful. He's done. The problem is that Peart couldn't beat out Solder. That doesn't necessarily mean Peart can't play RT. He might just not be ready, especially given what happened last season. But it's not a good sign that he can't even win the job from Solder.
Other options include Gates or calling up Jackson Barton from the PS.
Hernandez also didn't play well on Sunday.
It might be a coincidence, but every OT who has played next to Hernandez, on both sides of the line, has played poorly.
I don't know whether that's an indictment of Hernandez and that he's making them look worse than they are, or whether he's being hampered by poor OT play next to him.
I think it's both, with the whole being less than the sum of the parts.