I enjoyed a game, I otherwise would have no interest in, as result of Eli (wife snarkily refers to him as my boyfriend) and Peyton riffing & breaking down concepts during the game.
Agreed with above that they should be more selective about their guests...Barkley & Wilson knew the camera well, Kelce was a fish out of water.
Certainly better than what they’ve had on MNF. But then I liked when a number of years ago they had nothing at all. Just down and distance on the screen.I hear enough of the play by play and color guys. Something different is good.
“Walk all the way to the locker room, go to the bathroom real quick , coaches coming all the way down from the booth. They say good job, we’re gonna keep doing what we’re doing, maybe run 1 or two plays more. Then it’s like ‘2 minutes!’”
“After the game the press asks what happened in the locker room, you came out fired up! I don’t know, must have been the orange slices…”
“Walk all the way to the locker room, go to the bathroom real quick , coaches coming all the way down from the booth. They say good job, we’re gonna keep doing what we’re doing, maybe run 1 or two plays more. Then it’s like ‘2 minutes!’”
“After the game the press asks what happened in the locker room, you came out fired up! I don’t know, must have been the orange slices…”
Yeah they really threw water on the age old "hey we never make halftime adjustments!" crowd.
But I will say I wouldn’t want to watch a Giants game with them
It was too loose
I’m standing when watching the Giants about three feet from my 82” TV.
Haha
And at first it was t clicking, but it grew on me pretty quick. I was going to switch to the main broadcast eventually but ended up staying with the Manning bros and really enjoyed it. Dang. Wish we had 2011 Eli right now.
RE: RE: Like the comment about halftime adjustments
“Walk all the way to the locker room, go to the bathroom real quick , coaches coming all the way down from the booth. They say good job, we’re gonna keep doing what we’re doing, maybe run 1 or two plays more. Then it’s like ‘2 minutes!’”
“After the game the press asks what happened in the locker room, you came out fired up! I don’t know, must have been the orange slices…”
Yeah they really threw water on the age old "hey we never make halftime adjustments!" crowd.
I know that I have said this in the past in a less polite manner but for now, I will politely say that it was a good clue that the poster didn't know what they were talking about if they kept harping on the team's halftime adjustments.
It takes a little while to decide what's working and what isn't.
The last part of the game with Russell Wilson and the three of them just talking about what they were seeing was better than any conventional network broadcast for me.
Peyton was trying to entertain at the beginning, but in the end, they just need to talk the kind of detail the TV producers and network guys like Nance and Dick Stockton say the public doesn't like or understand.
Eli comes across as 'all ball', which the immersed NYG fans know, but as the yahoo sports guy mentioned, it reverses the goober public image the networks have traditionally promoted.
I found that be completely unwatchable last night. Maybe just me but it was so out of synch with the game. Maybe it got better. I bailed after 10min.
I thought it was too loud if that's the right word. Too jumbled and chaotic. Also, I am not sure I need to see them on screen? Can't they just offer commentary and maybe talk a little less?
Why do these broadcast teams insist on talking so much? Fucking Collinsworth never takes a breath! Never! All he does is wax deep and noisy poetic from one shiny topic/player to the next. Slow the fuck down. Not every player or play is legendary for fucks sake.
Eli comes across as 'all ball', which the immersed NYG fans know, but as the yahoo sports guy mentioned, it reverses the goober public image the networks have traditionally promoted.
It crossed my mind how much this is going to help Eli's public perception. Ray Lewis and Russell Wilson were both very respectful of him, and he was able to match wits pretty well with Peyton. He's definitely going to cut through some of the media talking points that have followed him.
I found that be completely unwatchable last night. Maybe just me but it was so out of synch with the game. Maybe it got better. I bailed after 10min.
The first 10 min were lame because they were doing their scripted corny/tacky BS. Peyton's scripted stuff is always awful. I don't know why he seems to think the's a comedy writer. I thought his HOF speech was awful, just cringe-level corniness. The other HOF speeches were much better and actually had me laughing/crying because you could tell guys were more just speaking from the heart.
BUT-- Peyton just talking off the cuff and especially talking football is very enjoyable. Same with Eli (I actually enjoy Eli about 1000% more just because he's way more down-to-earth and seems more like an actual normal laid-back dude-- I also enjoy his sense of humor more). So, once the corny scripted stuff stopped and it was just them sitting watching the game it was the best MNF telecast I've ever seen. And I absolutely loved Ray Lewis and Russ Wilson. Ray fit right in I thought as a possible 3rd guy to add to the show just because he brought the same cerebral value to the game from a defensive standpoint that the Mannings bring re: offense. And Russ it almost felt like was giving us the more new age modern football viewpoint while the Mannings were more the timeless wisdom guys-- I thought that was a great mix.
Eli pointing out that the linebacker is lined up over the TE and there's no one over top of him, so he would've automatically eliminated that linebacker as a possible blitzer. The Raiders o-line + Carr didn't realize this and the right guard shifted left thinking that dude was coming. Meanwhile the other backer came on a delayed blitz and sacked Carr. It was just an ideal example for me of actually learning something useful while watching an MNF telecast and also seeing why Eli was indeed one of the smartest QBs in the league during his time.
Also-- Eli calling out that the last thing they should do is go hard-count on the 1/2 yard line... that's exactly what Carr did and it cost them... A LOT. He called it.
Then finally-- Peyton calling that last play. Basically pointing out the whole game that when the Raiders would come to the line and read "zero" they'd check to their "zero-beater" but then the Ravens of course would check out of zero and screw them over. Then on the final play of the game Peyton says "I think this time they should just assume it's zero by now, call your zero-beater in the huddle, and audible out of that if it ISN'T zero." Low and behold they had called their "zero-beater" in the huddle, Ravens were in zero, and boom the Raiders beat them over the top for the game-winning TD.
That's part of the reason I've also felt like I learn more from Romo (as well as the Mannings now) than any other color commentator-- because they're talking in real time about what they would do and what they're seeing and what it likely means. When guys wait until after the play to say anything I don't feel like I've actually learned anything and it's not nearly as interesting to watch IMO. Then again-- there probably aren't a ton of these guys out there who are so close to having played QB at a high level in the NFL who can so consistently diagnose exactly what is about to happen in a game just by seeing how the 2 teams are lined up. Hence why they usually need to wait until after the play haha.
Those were exactly what I mean when I said they are giving us fans insight into stuff we usually would never know about. The chess game regarding football is fascinating when someone with true in-depth knowledge talks of it.
Eli pointing out that the linebacker is lined up over the TE and there's no one over top of him, so he would've automatically eliminated that linebacker as a possible blitzer. The Raiders o-line + Carr didn't realize this and the right guard shifted left thinking that dude was coming. Meanwhile the other backer came on a delayed blitz and sacked Carr. It was just an ideal example for me of actually learning something useful while watching an MNF telecast and also seeing why Eli was indeed one of the smartest QBs in the league during his time.
Also-- Eli calling out that the last thing they should do is go hard-count on the 1/2 yard line... that's exactly what Carr did and it cost them... A LOT. He called it.
Then finally-- Peyton calling that last play. Basically pointing out the whole game that when the Raiders would come to the line and read "zero" they'd check to their "zero-beater" but then the Ravens of course would check out of zero and screw them over. Then on the final play of the game Peyton says "I think this time they should just assume it's zero by now, call your zero-beater in the huddle, and audible out of that if it ISN'T zero." Low and behold they had called their "zero-beater" in the huddle, Ravens were in zero, and boom the Raiders beat them over the top for the game-winning TD.
That's part of the reason I've also felt like I learn more from Romo (as well as the Mannings now) than any other color commentator-- because they're talking in real time about what they would do and what they're seeing and what it likely means. When guys wait until after the play to say anything I don't feel like I've actually learned anything and it's not nearly as interesting to watch IMO. Then again-- there probably aren't a ton of these guys out there who are so close to having played QB at a high level in the NFL who can so consistently diagnose exactly what is about to happen in a game just by seeing how the 2 teams are lined up. Hence why they usually need to wait until after the play haha.
Damn good post Leg.
I think both Mannings really shined with their in-play commentary. While different in the manner they express it, they both are so sharp. Not a huge fan of Romo just cause he talks too much, but he has that same strong mindset at the LoS...it just comes with no Lombardi's
:-)
If i have no rooting in interest in the game, i will watch Peyton and
Eli. I watched the entire telecast and enjoyed it. That's one more non-Giant game than I usually enjoy. I can stomach Collinsworth, but the other night game announcers, Sunday, Monday or Thursday make the game unbearable.
Peyton is quite the mind. Eli did well with his sounds bite humor. I really liked his interaction with Ray Lewis.
No way I am ever going back to the other broadcast as long as they have this...
Agreed with above that they should be more selective about their guests...Barkley & Wilson knew the camera well, Kelce was a fish out of water.
The quarters with Ray Lewis and Russell Wilson were terrific IMHO.
The first 10 minutes were a mess but they settled in and did a great job. I’d give it another chance.
I enjoyed it very much
“After the game the press asks what happened in the locker room, you came out fired up! I don’t know, must have been the orange slices…”
“After the game the press asks what happened in the locker room, you came out fired up! I don’t know, must have been the orange slices…”
It was too loose
I’m standing when watching the Giants about three feet from my 82” TV.
Haha
Quote:
“Walk all the way to the locker room, go to the bathroom real quick , coaches coming all the way down from the booth. They say good job, we’re gonna keep doing what we’re doing, maybe run 1 or two plays more. Then it’s like ‘2 minutes!’”
“After the game the press asks what happened in the locker room, you came out fired up! I don’t know, must have been the orange slices…”
Yeah they really threw water on the age old "hey we never make halftime adjustments!" crowd.
I know that I have said this in the past in a less polite manner but for now, I will politely say that it was a good clue that the poster didn't know what they were talking about if they kept harping on the team's halftime adjustments.
The last part of the game with Russell Wilson and the three of them just talking about what they were seeing was better than any conventional network broadcast for me.
Peyton was trying to entertain at the beginning, but in the end, they just need to talk the kind of detail the TV producers and network guys like Nance and Dick Stockton say the public doesn't like or understand.
Eli comes across as 'all ball', which the immersed NYG fans know, but as the yahoo sports guy mentioned, it reverses the goober public image the networks have traditionally promoted.
I thought it was too loud if that's the right word. Too jumbled and chaotic. Also, I am not sure I need to see them on screen? Can't they just offer commentary and maybe talk a little less?
Why do these broadcast teams insist on talking so much? Fucking Collinsworth never takes a breath! Never! All he does is wax deep and noisy poetic from one shiny topic/player to the next. Slow the fuck down. Not every player or play is legendary for fucks sake.
It crossed my mind how much this is going to help Eli's public perception. Ray Lewis and Russell Wilson were both very respectful of him, and he was able to match wits pretty well with Peyton. He's definitely going to cut through some of the media talking points that have followed him.
The first 10 min were lame because they were doing their scripted corny/tacky BS. Peyton's scripted stuff is always awful. I don't know why he seems to think the's a comedy writer. I thought his HOF speech was awful, just cringe-level corniness. The other HOF speeches were much better and actually had me laughing/crying because you could tell guys were more just speaking from the heart.
BUT-- Peyton just talking off the cuff and especially talking football is very enjoyable. Same with Eli (I actually enjoy Eli about 1000% more just because he's way more down-to-earth and seems more like an actual normal laid-back dude-- I also enjoy his sense of humor more). So, once the corny scripted stuff stopped and it was just them sitting watching the game it was the best MNF telecast I've ever seen. And I absolutely loved Ray Lewis and Russ Wilson. Ray fit right in I thought as a possible 3rd guy to add to the show just because he brought the same cerebral value to the game from a defensive standpoint that the Mannings bring re: offense. And Russ it almost felt like was giving us the more new age modern football viewpoint while the Mannings were more the timeless wisdom guys-- I thought that was a great mix.
Eli pointing out that the linebacker is lined up over the TE and there's no one over top of him, so he would've automatically eliminated that linebacker as a possible blitzer. The Raiders o-line + Carr didn't realize this and the right guard shifted left thinking that dude was coming. Meanwhile the other backer came on a delayed blitz and sacked Carr. It was just an ideal example for me of actually learning something useful while watching an MNF telecast and also seeing why Eli was indeed one of the smartest QBs in the league during his time.
Also-- Eli calling out that the last thing they should do is go hard-count on the 1/2 yard line... that's exactly what Carr did and it cost them... A LOT. He called it.
Then finally-- Peyton calling that last play. Basically pointing out the whole game that when the Raiders would come to the line and read "zero" they'd check to their "zero-beater" but then the Ravens of course would check out of zero and screw them over. Then on the final play of the game Peyton says "I think this time they should just assume it's zero by now, call your zero-beater in the huddle, and audible out of that if it ISN'T zero." Low and behold they had called their "zero-beater" in the huddle, Ravens were in zero, and boom the Raiders beat them over the top for the game-winning TD.
That's part of the reason I've also felt like I learn more from Romo (as well as the Mannings now) than any other color commentator-- because they're talking in real time about what they would do and what they're seeing and what it likely means. When guys wait until after the play to say anything I don't feel like I've actually learned anything and it's not nearly as interesting to watch IMO. Then again-- there probably aren't a ton of these guys out there who are so close to having played QB at a high level in the NFL who can so consistently diagnose exactly what is about to happen in a game just by seeing how the 2 teams are lined up. Hence why they usually need to wait until after the play haha.
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This was great Leg - I agreed with all your points. Russell Wilson was excellent too. It was need listening to all three and what they saw.
Eli pointing out that the linebacker is lined up over the TE and there's no one over top of him, so he would've automatically eliminated that linebacker as a possible blitzer. The Raiders o-line + Carr didn't realize this and the right guard shifted left thinking that dude was coming. Meanwhile the other backer came on a delayed blitz and sacked Carr. It was just an ideal example for me of actually learning something useful while watching an MNF telecast and also seeing why Eli was indeed one of the smartest QBs in the league during his time.
Also-- Eli calling out that the last thing they should do is go hard-count on the 1/2 yard line... that's exactly what Carr did and it cost them... A LOT. He called it.
Then finally-- Peyton calling that last play. Basically pointing out the whole game that when the Raiders would come to the line and read "zero" they'd check to their "zero-beater" but then the Ravens of course would check out of zero and screw them over. Then on the final play of the game Peyton says "I think this time they should just assume it's zero by now, call your zero-beater in the huddle, and audible out of that if it ISN'T zero." Low and behold they had called their "zero-beater" in the huddle, Ravens were in zero, and boom the Raiders beat them over the top for the game-winning TD.
That's part of the reason I've also felt like I learn more from Romo (as well as the Mannings now) than any other color commentator-- because they're talking in real time about what they would do and what they're seeing and what it likely means. When guys wait until after the play to say anything I don't feel like I've actually learned anything and it's not nearly as interesting to watch IMO. Then again-- there probably aren't a ton of these guys out there who are so close to having played QB at a high level in the NFL who can so consistently diagnose exactly what is about to happen in a game just by seeing how the 2 teams are lined up. Hence why they usually need to wait until after the play haha.
Damn good post Leg.
I think both Mannings really shined with their in-play commentary. While different in the manner they express it, they both are so sharp. Not a huge fan of Romo just cause he talks too much, but he has that same strong mindset at the LoS...it just comes with no Lombardi's
:-)