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NFT: new UEFA Champions League season started today

Del Shofner : 9/14/2021 9:36 pm
Man Utd lost in Bern to Young Boys, the winning goal scored by Pefok of the USMNT in the 95th minute off a blooper-reel giveaway by the Man Utd defender.

Bayern thrashed Barca.

Some interesting games tomorrow including Real Madrid-Inter, Liverpool-Milan and Man City-Leipzig.

I love the early stages of UCL. I mean, Salzburg and Sevilla played each other today. I have great memories of both cities. I really miss traveling in Europe, and just seeing all these clubs from all over playing each other brings back those memories.
Manchester United played with 10 men  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/14/2021 10:47 pm : link
after a Wan-Bissaka red card. But as expected, Ole gets his in-game tactics all wrong - Lingard's miscue was just the icing.
USMNT player notes:  
Pete in MD : 9/14/2021 11:44 pm : link
John Brooks was sent off for two yellow cards for Wolfsburg who tied Lille 0-0

Tim Weah DNP for Lille (injured)

Pulisic DNP for Chelsea (injured) who won 1-0 vs Zenit

Weston McKennie came on as a sub in the 68th minute for Juve in a 3-0 victory over Malmo.

Sergino Dest was on the bench but DNP for Barca in their 0-3 loss to Bayern.

Chris Richards DNP for Bayern (on loan to Hoffenheim)

Tomorrow:
Owen Otasowie and Club Brugge play PSG

Gio Reyna and Dortmund play Besiktas (Reyna is injured)

Zack Steffen and Man City play Tyler Adams and Jesse Marsch and RB Leipzig
One more:  
Pete in MD : 9/14/2021 11:47 pm : link
Brenden Aaronson played 90 for RB Salzburg in a 1-1 draw with Sevilla.
And as mentioned,  
Pete in MD : 9/14/2021 11:53 pm : link
the man of many names,Theoson-Jordan Siebatcheu Pefok, came on at HT and scored the winning goal in injury time for BSC Young Boys over Man U 2-1. Former USMNT team member German-American David Wagner is the manager for BSC Young Boys.
I caught the last 30 minutes of the United game  
Gman11 : 9/15/2021 7:26 am : link
and wondered why Lingard was subbing in in the first place. Then that lame assed back pass that lost the game for them.
RE: USMNT player notes:  
Del Shofner : 9/15/2021 8:32 am : link
In comment 15367085 Pete in MD said:
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John Brooks was sent off for two yellow cards for Wolfsburg who tied Lille 0-0


WTF is up with Brooks?
Barca  
Blue92 : 9/15/2021 9:33 am : link
Is in danger of an AC Milan-like descent to also-ran status.
10 men or not  
giantBCP : 9/15/2021 9:45 am : link
Manchester United was terrible and got severely outplayed. I watched Villarreal vs. Atalanta for the later match, and it was a very competitive evenly matched game. Both of those teams are strong and I think that United are going to have a very tough time getting out of this group.
RE: RE: USMNT player notes:  
Pete in MD : 9/15/2021 10:24 am : link
In comment 15367169 Del Shofner said:
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In comment 15367085 Pete in MD said:


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John Brooks was sent off for two yellow cards for Wolfsburg who tied Lille 0-0



WTF is up with Brooks?

IDK, he looked lost again yesterday. He was in the middle of many of LOSC's scoring chances in the 1H. During his poor play for the Nats, I kept hearing/reading that he is always solid for his club. Well, I guess not. His first yellow was just dumb, pulled a guy down by his neck from behind. It wasn't even in a dangerous spot. Second yellow, he got caught out of position again and reached his hand out to recover.
RE: Barca  
DCGMan : 9/15/2021 10:53 am : link
In comment 15367227 Blue92 said:
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Is in danger of an AC Milan-like descent to also-ran status.


Definite possibility. The club president said this week that Barca is two years from competing financially with the English sides. They shed some contracts and got everyone to re-negotiate so that helps.

With Messi gone, the Rakuten sponsorship is done, jersey sales are down, CL prize money will be less, and they can only sell tickets for 40% of their stadium capacity.

The club does have an excellent core of young talent though in Pedri, Fati (if he can stay healthy), de Jong, Gavi, Nico, Dest, Balde and Garcia.

It isn't all doom gloom but they are tier 2 Europe side for at least the next two years.
Del, thanks for the posting, and Pete, thanks  
CT Charlie : 9/15/2021 11:38 am : link
for the handy USMNT player summaries. Brooks seems to have totally lost his focus.

Has there been a thread lately for BBI fans to identify the teams they support? Given the tribalism sweeping the world, perhaps it's not a good idea!
RE: 10 men or not  
BronxBob : 9/15/2021 11:43 am : link
In comment 15367242 giantBCP said:
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Manchester United was terrible and got severely outplayed. I watched Villarreal vs. Atalanta for the later match, and it was a very competitive evenly matched game. Both of those teams are strong and I think that United are going to have a very tough time getting out of this group.


Thanks to Pete, for the USMNT updates.

I didn't see anything yesterday and haven't even looked at the groups yet. For years, I have been in a pool where the guy who runs it creates his own "groups" combining teams of (expected) equal quality. I have never finished in the top third of the 100 or so entrants -- and once finished dead last! I picked Man U to survive his grouping of Barca, Liverpool, and Real Madrid -- so I hope your conjecture above does not pan out.

This pool also factors in number of goals and gives extra points in the two groups with the (expected) worst teams. I also picked Young Boys -- because of PEFOK -- out of his next-to-last group to outlive Bestikas, Shaktar Donetsk and Zenit, so yesterday's result vs. Man U was a mixed blessing for me.
Dortmund - Besiktas coming on shortly  
Del Shofner : 9/15/2021 12:21 pm : link
(in Spanish) where I am. As mentioned by Pete, Reyna is injured so apparently not playing today for Dortmund. As to Besiktas, they still own Tyler Boyd of USMNT but have loaned him out because of foreign player limits.
I forgot all about Boyd.  
Pete in MD : 9/15/2021 12:54 pm : link
The only USA/New Zealand dual national in the footy world.
RE: RE: Barca  
Blue92 : 9/15/2021 1:07 pm : link
In comment 15367319 DCGMan said:
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In comment 15367227 Blue92 said:


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Is in danger of an AC Milan-like descent to also-ran status.



Definite possibility. The club president said this week that Barca is two years from competing financially with the English sides. They shed some contracts and got everyone to re-negotiate so that helps.

With Messi gone, the Rakuten sponsorship is done, jersey sales are down, CL prize money will be less, and they can only sell tickets for 40% of their stadium capacity.

The club does have an excellent core of young talent though in Pedri, Fati (if he can stay healthy), de Jong, Gavi, Nico, Dest, Balde and Garcia.

It isn't all doom gloom but they are tier 2 Europe side for at least the next two years.


They are going to have to replace some very high performers who are nearing the end of the line (Busquets, Pique, Jordi Alba) and will have to hit on their youth players, which Milan never did (e.g. Pato). Pedri looks to be on his way to being an elite player but the others are still TBDs. They won't be able to tap the high end of the transfer market for some time.

They've also been completely schooled by Madrid on the business side of things.

Absent some kind of bailout, they're at considerable risk of a prolonged decline.
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Pete in MD : 9/15/2021 2:28 pm : link
Dortmund handling Beşiktaş 2-0 late in the match. As mentioned, no Americans are playing but the Turkish Super League club started two Canadians, Cyle Larin and 38-year old Atiba Hutchinson.
RE: .  
Del Shofner : 9/15/2021 3:32 pm : link
In comment 15367606 Pete in MD said:
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Dortmund handling Beşiktaş 2-0 late in the match. As mentioned, no Americans are playing but the Turkish Super League club started two Canadians, Cyle Larin and 38-year old Atiba Hutchinson.


Ended 2-1. Jude Bellingham, 18 year old English player, had one goal and assisted on the other for Dortmund.

Brugges-PSG off to a 1-1 start.
USMNT today  
Pete in MD : 9/15/2021 3:34 pm : link
Only Tyler Adams playing and Marsch managing for RB Leipzig. Otasowie and Steffan not on the matchday rosters for their teams.

I just realized that Man City vs RBL is the big boy version of the MLS New York derby (NYCFC vs NY Red Bulls.)
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