Strictly bc of the lefty vs righty matchup. But Almora is batting .118 going into that AB, and Guillorme has a much better hit tool.
Gary said it, Guillorme is probably the guy you want up there even lefty on lefty. It's not like Kim is going to overwhelm Guillorme with his stuff. I think it was a pretty terrible decision.
Almora should be used for defense only, unless he's the absolute last guy on the bench.
He is unimaginative and lacks critical thinking skills for this role. But he’s damn good at barking at umpires all game arguing balls and strikes.
And for such a great defensive infield…they are pretty bad. So many errors and have horrible throws to first every single game. This is a bad team - but they shouldn’t be. And that’s the most frustrating part.
there is NOTHING that surprises you about this team. They put their fans on an emotional roller coaster every year. Just when you get your hopes at their zenith, the big drop comes and makes you puke.
what's even crazier is that they added Baez, he has played pretty much as good as he can play, including clutch hits like yesterday, and they just can't pull out wins.
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Yoenis Cespedes post trade deadline ‘15:
.287/.337/.604 with a 155 OPS+
Javier Baez post trade deadline ‘21:
.310/.385/.603 with a 169 OPS+
Something went very wrong in that clubhouse and if it wasn't the manager directly, he certainly didn't fix it. The record in 1 run games indicates a team that found ways to lose.
The most Mets thing ever is going to be when Thor and JDG throw back to back shut outs on the last 2 days of the season and we are truly left wondering "what if" they had just won a few more of these 1 run games.
RE: it's pretty remarkable for a team to fall off such a cliff
Something went very wrong in that clubhouse and if it wasn't the manager directly, he certainly didn't fix it. The record in 1 run games indicates a team that found ways to lose.
I agree, something is off with this team, and whatever it is, Rojas did little to change it. Unimaginative decision-making, blindly defending players no matter what they do, and not addressing festering clubhouse issues (how could he not know what the thumbs down thing was about???), I don't see any reason to keep him. And I will say the same thing about the front office. While the season wasn't a total disaster, it was bad enough, and festering issues never addressed, that shows a top-down problem.
RE: RE: it's pretty remarkable for a team to fall off such a cliff
Something went very wrong in that clubhouse and if it wasn't the manager directly, he certainly didn't fix it. The record in 1 run games indicates a team that found ways to lose.
I agree, something is off with this team, and whatever it is, Rojas did little to change it. Unimaginative decision-making, blindly defending players no matter what they do, and not addressing festering clubhouse issues (how could he not know what the thumbs down thing was about???), I don't see any reason to keep him. And I will say the same thing about the front office. While the season wasn't a total disaster, it was bad enough, and festering issues never addressed, that shows a top-down problem.
Of course there was a top down problem, if the GM getting fired over a pants down problem right before the season wasn't enough his replacement getting placed on leave mid playoff race was. I suspect they weren't thrilled with Scott's on field performance prior to the off field.
I know everyone wants Alderson to have to answer for the end results but Porter was a pretty unanimously praised hire and there was no way on earth his exit could have been anticipated. Scott came because of Porter. They tried for 2 homerun candidates before Porter and were denied permission. The entire intent was that Alderson wasn't going to be involved in baseball decisions so his continued presence comes down to 1 thing - would we rather Cohen runs a hiring process and makes the decision on who to hire by himself?
RE: RE: RE: it's pretty remarkable for a team to fall off such a cliff
Something went very wrong in that clubhouse and if it wasn't the manager directly, he certainly didn't fix it. The record in 1 run games indicates a team that found ways to lose.
I agree, something is off with this team, and whatever it is, Rojas did little to change it. Unimaginative decision-making, blindly defending players no matter what they do, and not addressing festering clubhouse issues (how could he not know what the thumbs down thing was about???), I don't see any reason to keep him. And I will say the same thing about the front office. While the season wasn't a total disaster, it was bad enough, and festering issues never addressed, that shows a top-down problem.
Of course there was a top down problem, if the GM getting fired over a pants down problem right before the season wasn't enough his replacement getting placed on leave mid playoff race was. I suspect they weren't thrilled with Scott's on field performance prior to the off field.
I know everyone wants Alderson to have to answer for the end results but Porter was a pretty unanimously praised hire and there was no way on earth his exit could have been anticipated. Scott came because of Porter. They tried for 2 homerun candidates before Porter and were denied permission. The entire intent was that Alderson wasn't going to be involved in baseball decisions so his continued presence comes down to 1 thing - would we rather Cohen runs a hiring process and makes the decision on who to hire by himself?
Yes. I want Alderson gone and I want Rojas gone. I also want McNeil gone and JD Davis gone and Dom gone. (with a nice return.... ) and Baez should be paid well and play alongside his buddy for the next 5-6 years.
Porter WAS avoidable they either didnt do their homework or turned their heads. And that's just one of the things Sandy has to answer for. Do I know who will come in and do better? No.. but I guarantee those people are out there and Uncle Steve needs to find them - as an example I wanted Bloom over Van Wagenen but that ship has sailed.
I know everyone wants Alderson to have to answer for the end results but Porter was a pretty unanimously praised hire and there was no way on earth his exit could have been anticipated. Scott came because of Porter. They tried for 2 homerun candidates before Porter and were denied permission. The entire intent was that Alderson wasn't going to be involved in baseball decisions so his continued presence comes down to 1 thing - would we rather Cohen runs a hiring process and makes the decision on who to hire by himself?
It's fair not to blame Alderson for Porter or for Scott, but I think it is time to move on. It's one thing not to sign your 1st round pick, but not to have a backup plan is simply inexcusable. How they didn't use a later round pick for a wild card is beyond me. Even if they get the extra 1st rounder next year, they either have to expect both to sign for slot, or pay one over slot, and then pick a safe pick, so the extra pick has limited value. Someone has to answer for that.
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RE: RE: RE: RE: it's pretty remarkable for a team to fall off such a cliff
I know everyone wants Alderson to have to answer for the end results but Porter was a pretty unanimously praised hire and there was no way on earth his exit could have been anticipated. Scott came because of Porter. They tried for 2 homerun candidates before Porter and were denied permission. The entire intent was that Alderson wasn't going to be involved in baseball decisions so his continued presence comes down to 1 thing - would we rather Cohen runs a hiring process and makes the decision on who to hire by himself?
It's fair not to blame Alderson for Porter or for Scott, but I think it is time to move on. It's one thing not to sign your 1st round pick, but not to have a backup plan is simply inexcusable. How they didn't use a later round pick for a wild card is beyond me. Even if they get the extra 1st rounder next year, they either have to expect both to sign for slot, or pay one over slot, and then pick a safe pick, so the extra pick has limited value. Someone has to answer for that.
I think someone did answer for that, and I think it's the guy who never had his interim GM title changed and was put on leave (and I assume never coming back).
Again, the plan was never for Sandy to come back in the first place. Having to move on from him now wasn't even supposed to be part of the plan in the first place. His main task was hiring the people to move on to last year. So the question is really is he the right person to help Cohen figure out how to move on or is there someone else better?
Yep. He pulls Stroman after 6. Debatable, but OK. Loup is your best reliever, why bring him in for the 7th? And how many fucking times will he bring Familia into a high leverage situation without failing to realize he - more often than not - will fail in that role?
Rojas is so overwhelmed in this role...
Yeah, whoever said that Megill “has nothing left to prove”
I really hope the head of the kevin plawecki fanclub reappears one day and gives us some more hints at what really happened but unless I've missed him he's been MIA since the Zack Scott call out press conference - which seems to be pretty closely linked to when the season fell apart. I have obviously been a loud critic of Rojas over that period of time but I think there was a lot more going on behind the scenes with Zack Scott than we know (and I don't mean off the field problems, I suspect that was around the time they realized he very much wasn't ready to be a GM and the rest snowballed from there).
it's going to be so mets to end the season with 1 of the hottest players in baseball and 2 aces just getting healthy enough to not participate in the postseason.
Gary said it, Guillorme is probably the guy you want up there even lefty on lefty. It's not like Kim is going to overwhelm Guillorme with his stuff. I think it was a pretty terrible decision.
Almora should be used for defense only, unless he's the absolute last guy on the bench.
And for such a great defensive infield…they are pretty bad. So many errors and have horrible throws to first every single game. This is a bad team - but they shouldn’t be. And that’s the most frustrating part.
.287/.337/.604 with a 155 OPS+
Javier Baez post trade deadline ‘21:
.310/.385/.603 with a 169 OPS+
Something went very wrong in that clubhouse and if it wasn't the manager directly, he certainly didn't fix it. The record in 1 run games indicates a team that found ways to lose.
The most Mets thing ever is going to be when Thor and JDG throw back to back shut outs on the last 2 days of the season and we are truly left wondering "what if" they had just won a few more of these 1 run games.
Something went very wrong in that clubhouse and if it wasn't the manager directly, he certainly didn't fix it. The record in 1 run games indicates a team that found ways to lose.
I agree, something is off with this team, and whatever it is, Rojas did little to change it. Unimaginative decision-making, blindly defending players no matter what they do, and not addressing festering clubhouse issues (how could he not know what the thumbs down thing was about???), I don't see any reason to keep him. And I will say the same thing about the front office. While the season wasn't a total disaster, it was bad enough, and festering issues never addressed, that shows a top-down problem.
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Something went very wrong in that clubhouse and if it wasn't the manager directly, he certainly didn't fix it. The record in 1 run games indicates a team that found ways to lose.
I agree, something is off with this team, and whatever it is, Rojas did little to change it. Unimaginative decision-making, blindly defending players no matter what they do, and not addressing festering clubhouse issues (how could he not know what the thumbs down thing was about???), I don't see any reason to keep him. And I will say the same thing about the front office. While the season wasn't a total disaster, it was bad enough, and festering issues never addressed, that shows a top-down problem.
Of course there was a top down problem, if the GM getting fired over a pants down problem right before the season wasn't enough his replacement getting placed on leave mid playoff race was. I suspect they weren't thrilled with Scott's on field performance prior to the off field.
I know everyone wants Alderson to have to answer for the end results but Porter was a pretty unanimously praised hire and there was no way on earth his exit could have been anticipated. Scott came because of Porter. They tried for 2 homerun candidates before Porter and were denied permission. The entire intent was that Alderson wasn't going to be involved in baseball decisions so his continued presence comes down to 1 thing - would we rather Cohen runs a hiring process and makes the decision on who to hire by himself?
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Something went very wrong in that clubhouse and if it wasn't the manager directly, he certainly didn't fix it. The record in 1 run games indicates a team that found ways to lose.
I agree, something is off with this team, and whatever it is, Rojas did little to change it. Unimaginative decision-making, blindly defending players no matter what they do, and not addressing festering clubhouse issues (how could he not know what the thumbs down thing was about???), I don't see any reason to keep him. And I will say the same thing about the front office. While the season wasn't a total disaster, it was bad enough, and festering issues never addressed, that shows a top-down problem.
Of course there was a top down problem, if the GM getting fired over a pants down problem right before the season wasn't enough his replacement getting placed on leave mid playoff race was. I suspect they weren't thrilled with Scott's on field performance prior to the off field.
I know everyone wants Alderson to have to answer for the end results but Porter was a pretty unanimously praised hire and there was no way on earth his exit could have been anticipated. Scott came because of Porter. They tried for 2 homerun candidates before Porter and were denied permission. The entire intent was that Alderson wasn't going to be involved in baseball decisions so his continued presence comes down to 1 thing - would we rather Cohen runs a hiring process and makes the decision on who to hire by himself?
Yes. I want Alderson gone and I want Rojas gone. I also want McNeil gone and JD Davis gone and Dom gone. (with a nice return.... ) and Baez should be paid well and play alongside his buddy for the next 5-6 years.
Porter WAS avoidable they either didnt do their homework or turned their heads. And that's just one of the things Sandy has to answer for. Do I know who will come in and do better? No.. but I guarantee those people are out there and Uncle Steve needs to find them - as an example I wanted Bloom over Van Wagenen but that ship has sailed.
I know everyone wants Alderson to have to answer for the end results but Porter was a pretty unanimously praised hire and there was no way on earth his exit could have been anticipated. Scott came because of Porter. They tried for 2 homerun candidates before Porter and were denied permission. The entire intent was that Alderson wasn't going to be involved in baseball decisions so his continued presence comes down to 1 thing - would we rather Cohen runs a hiring process and makes the decision on who to hire by himself?
It's fair not to blame Alderson for Porter or for Scott, but I think it is time to move on. It's one thing not to sign your 1st round pick, but not to have a backup plan is simply inexcusable. How they didn't use a later round pick for a wild card is beyond me. Even if they get the extra 1st rounder next year, they either have to expect both to sign for slot, or pay one over slot, and then pick a safe pick, so the extra pick has limited value. Someone has to answer for that.
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I know everyone wants Alderson to have to answer for the end results but Porter was a pretty unanimously praised hire and there was no way on earth his exit could have been anticipated. Scott came because of Porter. They tried for 2 homerun candidates before Porter and were denied permission. The entire intent was that Alderson wasn't going to be involved in baseball decisions so his continued presence comes down to 1 thing - would we rather Cohen runs a hiring process and makes the decision on who to hire by himself?
It's fair not to blame Alderson for Porter or for Scott, but I think it is time to move on. It's one thing not to sign your 1st round pick, but not to have a backup plan is simply inexcusable. How they didn't use a later round pick for a wild card is beyond me. Even if they get the extra 1st rounder next year, they either have to expect both to sign for slot, or pay one over slot, and then pick a safe pick, so the extra pick has limited value. Someone has to answer for that.
I think someone did answer for that, and I think it's the guy who never had his interim GM title changed and was put on leave (and I assume never coming back).
Again, the plan was never for Sandy to come back in the first place. Having to move on from him now wasn't even supposed to be part of the plan in the first place. His main task was hiring the people to move on to last year. So the question is really is he the right person to help Cohen figure out how to move on or is there someone else better?
That’s just laziness. Of course Sandy is the one who hired Mickey C as well
Cohen has to clean house from top to bottom
Why did he pull the starter in a must-win game at the end of the season against the bottom of the order?
Why go with Reed when other pitchers were available?
Yep. He pulls Stroman after 6. Debatable, but OK. Loup is your best reliever, why bring him in for the 7th? And how many fucking times will he bring Familia into a high leverage situation without failing to realize he - more often than not - will fail in that role?
Rojas is so overwhelmed in this role...
Just another amaZing year for the Mets!!!
See you in 2022 Mets.
the players have checked out it seems.
See you in 2022 Mets.
the players have checked out it seems.
I really hope the head of the kevin plawecki fanclub reappears one day and gives us some more hints at what really happened but unless I've missed him he's been MIA since the Zack Scott call out press conference - which seems to be pretty closely linked to when the season fell apart. I have obviously been a loud critic of Rojas over that period of time but I think there was a lot more going on behind the scenes with Zack Scott than we know (and I don't mean off the field problems, I suspect that was around the time they realized he very much wasn't ready to be a GM and the rest snowballed from there).
it's going to be so mets to end the season with 1 of the hottest players in baseball and 2 aces just getting healthy enough to not participate in the postseason.