This team elected to spend the #2 overall pick on a RB, against most people's judgement. A big part of his game was supposed to be what he can do as a pass catcher, not just as a runner, and we saw that his rookie year when he had 91 receptions for 721 yards. I watched the Carolina game last week and you better believe CM was a huge part of the game plan with 9 receptions for 89 yards, in addition to his 21 carries. They were going to get him the ball, in may ways, and get the ball in his hand out in space.
I get it, SB is coming off of injury. But if he wasn't healthy enough, they should have rested up and made sure he was ready for divisional game on short week. I have to assume he was good to go outside of some rust, but then you have one measly catch for a single yard. Same number of catches as CJ Board, Booker, and Gary Brightwell. I'm sorry, but the running game was for shit, they needed to find ways to get SB out into space. That should be a game plan in every game that Barkley is wearing a jersey. Of the many, many, reasons Jason Garrett should not be calling plays for us, I present to you, exhibit A.
Saving him for later in the season makes no sense to me if it means losing games early in the season.
Because at this point it isn't being physically ready other than game conditioning. It's mental just as much, putting him on PUP doesn't solve either of those problems.
I agree with you, and I really havent gotten past the selection of Jones over Allen yet, either; ill never understand why we picked a QB in what was fairly obviously not the greatest QB class when we still had Eli for another year. BUT...whats done is done. We have been over these decisions THOUSANDS of time of the past 3-4 years and its just really useless to continue discussing it. Like there isnt enough already to be angry about. We Cant go back in time..we got who we got. So we can only be hopeful (we can at least try) that the coaches can somehow figure out how to win some games with Barkley and DJ. If they cant, then the decision makers need to be changed out.
I expect Barkley to have a solid season, but likely not markedly better than what you would get from a running back whom the franchise did not invest its highest draft pick in a couple of decades. At this point, signing him to a long term contract is a mistake.
That's the thing Garrett doesn't seem to understand - EVERYTHING is a passing situation. In a 17 game season we should be throwing the ball 650 times, and the higher the ADOT the better.
I think you can bet money on the Giants being one of the 8 lowest scoring teams in the league. They just don't get it.
No, not really.
Not really. Accumulating 2000 yards on nearly 400 plays isn't nearly as impressive or as effective as the Giants would want you to believe.
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He was every bit of the player that we drafted him to be in his rookie season.
Not really. Accumulating 2000 yards on nearly 400 plays isn't nearly as impressive or as effective as the Giants would want you to believe.
I'll also add that the draft hype for a #2 overall pick is to be the cornerstone of a franchise for a decade plus, at an impactful position. Not a single quality season. Right now, it would be a mistake to sign Barkley to a second contract, let along mention of Barkley being a cornerstone for a decade.
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He was every bit of the player that we drafted him to be in his rookie season.
Not really. Accumulating 2000 yards on nearly 400 plays isn't nearly as impressive or as effective as the Giants would want you to believe.
I'll also add that the draft hype for a #2 overall pick is to be the cornerstone of a franchise for a decade plus, at an impactful position. Not a single quality season. Right now, it would be a mistake to sign Barkley to a second contract, let along mention of Barkley being a cornerstone for a decade.
While I hate to disagree with anyone using Lax in their handle he was fantastic in 2018, absolutely fantastic!
Saving him for later in the season makes no sense to me if it means losing games early in the season.
If Barkley doesn't play, do you think Booker, Penny or Brightwell are going to be a game changers?
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...enough with the kid gloves. We need wins NOW.
Saving him for later in the season makes no sense to me if it means losing games early in the season.
If Barkley doesn't play, do you think Booker, Penny or Brightwell are going to be a game changers?
All I am saying is if he is active for the game, feed him the ball.
Saquon is going to ball out around week 4. Guy had his knee destroyed and put back together. Give it a few games and give it a rest.
And yes, 2000 yards from a RB is outstanding.
Saquon is going to ball out around week 4. Guy had his knee destroyed and put back together. Give it a few games and give it a rest.
And yes, 2000 yards from a RB is outstanding.
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He also lived up to the concerns:
RBs get hurt.
Really Terps enough already. You portray yourself like someone that knows what he's talking about but then you say things like this. If you want to be part of the discussion and get your point across you would be taken a lot more seriously if you didn't just spout off negative all the time and talk in these absolutes. I know a bunch of people that read this site and they all just find you as am annoyance, even the ones that don't like Gettleman and Jones and think the Barkley pick was unwise.
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No he doesn't. He inspires confidence in defenders to rush the quarterback.
Really Terps enough already. You portray yourself like someone that knows what he's talking about but then you say things like this. If you want to be part of the discussion and get your point across you would be taken a lot more seriously if you didn't just spout off negative all the time and talk in these absolutes. I know a bunch of people that read this site and they all just find you as am annoyance, even the ones that don't like Gettleman and Jones and think the Barkley pick was unwise.
That breaks my heart.
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No he doesn't. He inspires confidence in defenders to rush the quarterback.
Really Terps enough already. You portray yourself like someone that knows what he's talking about but then you say things like this. If you want to be part of the discussion and get your point across you would be taken a lot more seriously if you didn't just spout off negative all the time and talk in these absolutes. I know a bunch of people that read this site and they all just find you as am annoyance, even the ones that don't like Gettleman and Jones and think the Barkley pick was unwise.
That breaks my heart.
Tired of the “get him the ball in space” mantra. You can say that for 100 other guys around the league. Bottom line either be what you were drafted to be or get out of the way and let another back play who at least won’t be a liability.
If the book on Barkley is to blitz him, because he's not great in pass-pro and it often results in TFL, then the coaches need to put him in better positions to succeed.
The Giants system is built on play action, and I get the sense no one in the secondary is really all that concerned if the ball gets handed off.
Couldn't disagree more. He showed he isn't afraid to cut on that knee, probably the biggest and most important takeaway when watching him on Sunday. He also took some shots and was fine.
This falls squarely on Garrett for not putting Barkley in more positions to exploit weaknesses in the opposing defense. Where is the motion? Where are the screens? Why isn't he he ever lining up at WR?
Put Garrett on PUP and let Kitchens go to work.
Do not resign to a new contract.
they dont call great plays for him to run
jones doesnt throw a great short ball too him
they never really had the ball because the defense could not get off the field.
Not a chance.
He did just fine his rookie year. Hurt most of year 2 (high ankle) and all of year 3. Give him a game or two tp shake off the rust. He is the one guy we have who has shown he can excel in the NFL. Also he was hitting the pile pretty good in the Broncos game with no blocking, even the announcers mentioned it. I remember one run he got hit at the LOS and pushed it 5 yards. I don't buy this soft crap.
LOL watch football much...