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DanMetroMan : 9/15/2021 3:07 pm
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Billy Jean at 44 is slanderous  
GNewGiants : 9/15/2021 3:12 pm : link
It definitely belong in the top 15 if not top 10 or even higher.

Missy Elliott at number 8? GTFOOH.
Missy Elliott in the top ten  
Greg from LI : 9/15/2021 3:13 pm : link
hahahahaha....sure
Odd  
thomasa510 : 9/15/2021 3:15 pm : link
Odd list.

Interesting to see how tastes change. Even songs I like a lot on the list like “Waterloo Sunset” seem oddly placed.

Maybe the sign that I’m middle aged is I don’t really care much about other opinions on music and like what I like.

Still unusual placement of many songs.
RE: Missy Elliott in the top ten  
John In CO : 9/15/2021 3:18 pm : link
In comment 15367679 Greg from LI said:
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hahahahaha....sure


Knowing that beforehand is enough to convince me to not open this article. There has been enough happening in the past week entertainment wise to piss me off, don't really need any more. I think I still have the original Rolling Stone magazine in some closet somewhere where they listed the top 500 songs. That was put out years ago....and im sure that, with a few exceptions, that one will be fine for me.
Daddy yankee with gasolina at 50? Lol  
bubba0825 : 9/15/2021 3:21 pm : link
I know the song but they should just do a list of the past 40 years than
I get that they're trying to incorporate more hip hop  
Greg from LI : 9/15/2021 3:22 pm : link
But there are a million better hip hop songs than fuckin' Get Your Freak On. Seriously!
It was put together to appeal to teenagers  
Milton : 9/15/2021 3:23 pm : link
Don't even bother. It's stupid. Not worth the clicks. Rolling Stone's shameless attempt at winning over the hip hop crowd. The editors were probably holding their noses as they put the list together.
That list basically says GenX'ers are done with music  
MartyNJ1969 : 9/15/2021 3:25 pm : link
and are no longer in the target audience
How do you define "Best?"  
blright : 9/15/2021 3:27 pm : link
I have several problems with this, but first and foremost is the mixing of genres. How do you compare Prince with AC/DC? You don't, and I like them both. Why isn't Beethoven's Fifth in here if it's simply the best song?

Although I think it's the best song ever, there is absolutely no basis for "Stairway to Heaven" to be 61st BEHIND "Like a Prayer" or "Good Vibrations." Insanity.
Weird list!  
JB_in_DC : 9/15/2021 3:28 pm : link
Strange Fruit makes this version's top 50 - the previous 2003 version contained no 1930s tracks and just 1 from the 40s
RE: That list basically says GenX'ers are done with music  
larryflower37 : 9/15/2021 3:29 pm : link
In comment 15367695 MartyNJ1969 said:
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and are no longer in the target audience


Not sure I get that with PE at #2
4 of the top 10 are from GEN X time period
RE: I get that they're trying to incorporate more hip hop  
BH28 : 9/15/2021 3:31 pm : link
In comment 15367693 Greg from LI said:
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But there are a million better hip hop songs than fuckin' Get Your Freak On. Seriously!


If I was doing a top 50 list of hip-hop songs of all time none of those in the Rolling Stone list would even make it, except for Juicy
RE: RE: I get that they're trying to incorporate more hip hop  
John In CO : 9/15/2021 3:33 pm : link
In comment 15367704 BH28 said:
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In comment 15367693 Greg from LI said:


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But there are a million better hip hop songs than fuckin' Get Your Freak On. Seriously!



If I was doing a top 50 list of hip-hop songs of all time none of those in the Rolling Stone list would even make it, except for Juicy


If I was doing a top 50 list of hip-hop songs of all time, I would be someone else.
RE: RE: RE: I get that they're trying to incorporate more hip hop  
thomasa510 : 9/15/2021 3:35 pm : link
In comment 15367709 John In CO said:
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In comment 15367704 BH28 said:


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In comment 15367693 Greg from LI said:


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But there are a million better hip hop songs than fuckin' Get Your Freak On. Seriously!



If I was doing a top 50 list of hip-hop songs of all time none of those in the Rolling Stone list would even make it, except for Juicy



If I was doing a top 50 list of hip-hop songs of all time, I would be someone else.


Never agree more
How is Rolling Stone  
pjcas18 : 9/15/2021 3:37 pm : link
still in business?

I have no issue with this list, it's obviously an opinion thing and these days the more controversial the better. and when you read their methods and see them explicitly state they had a goal to create a more "inclusive" top 500 list it makes sense.

but I don't see how they survive(d) the shift from print to online media.

I loved reading it growing up, covers were iconic, articles were edgy, and I especially liked reading the classifieds where you could find places to order fireworks, knives, throwing stars, nun-chucks, etc.

but what is their allure to consumers now?

I figured like Sports Illustrated, Circus, Mad, Time, and other magazines of my childhood Rolling Stone would become a relic of my youth. Surprised it hasn't.
Taylor Swift not in the top 50?????  
BrettNYG10 : 9/15/2021 3:38 pm : link
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RE: Daddy yankee with gasolina at 50? Lol  
UConn4523 : 9/15/2021 3:38 pm : link
In comment 15367692 bubba0825 said:
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I know the song but they should just do a list of the past 40 years than


Yeah this made me laugh too. Such a terrible song.
I usually don't put much stock in these lists, but this was weird..  
Mellowmood92 : 9/15/2021 3:40 pm : link
I listen to nearly every genre of music and I'm confused. I don't understand the top 50 at all. It's like they're trying to make music of the last 15-20 years seem better than it was. MAYBE keep Outkast and Beyonce, but aside from that? GTFO

I get there's a lot of subjectivity to it, but this is Rolling Stone.
Rolling Stone sucks  
Jints in Carolina : 9/15/2021 3:42 pm : link
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RE: How is Rolling Stone  
UConn4523 : 9/15/2021 3:42 pm : link
In comment 15367714 pjcas18 said:
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still in business?

I have no issue with this list, it's obviously an opinion thing and these days the more controversial the better. and when you read their methods and see them explicitly state they had a goal to create a more "inclusive" top 500 list it makes sense.

but I don't see how they survive(d) the shift from print to online media.

I loved reading it growing up, covers were iconic, articles were edgy, and I especially liked reading the classifieds where you could find places to order fireworks, knives, throwing stars, nun-chucks, etc.

but what is their allure to consumers now?

I figured like Sports Illustrated, Circus, Mad, Time, and other magazines of my childhood Rolling Stone would become a relic of my youth. Surprised it hasn't.


Vinyl is getting big again, a bunch of musicians are investing in it so I can see that same mentality with print - reading a magazine is still something people like to do, just like books. I tried the Kindle route and it sucks, nothing is better than a physical book and likely never will.

Not sure what Rolling Stone Magazine's profits are these days but being a brand still works for them. They are launching a UK edition soon.
Kanye West feat. Pusha T, 'Runaway'  
Pete in MD : 9/15/2021 3:48 pm : link
That's in everyone's top 25 most iconic songs, amirite? You put that on in the bar and everyone just starts belting it out, old and young alike.
Yawn....another  
rebel yell : 9/15/2021 3:56 pm : link
has-been publication trying to resurrect themselves.
It's funny, with a few exceptions  
Stan in LA : 9/15/2021 4:00 pm : link
I liked the songs 51-100 better than the one's 1-50.
RE: Rolling Stone sucks  
widmerseyebrow : 9/15/2021 4:02 pm : link
In comment 15367720 Jints in Carolina said:
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It is a rag.
Hmmm...  
Route 9 : 9/15/2021 4:29 pm : link
Is the song "bullshit in Oklahoma" in their top 10?
No Flock of Seagulls…?  
BamaBlue : 9/15/2021 5:00 pm : link
Redo.
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Route 9 : 9/15/2021 5:19 pm : link
If you're over 35, I really don't see what the aim is in listening to contemporary music. I'll catch a song by accident or maybe my daily news program will feature one modern song and I hear one note of it and it is just absolute, puke, garbage filth.
The Beatles best song is Strawberry Fields Forever?  
Essex : 9/15/2021 5:21 pm : link
Yikes.
Was pleasantly surprised...  
bw in dc : 9/15/2021 5:43 pm : link
to see REM's "Nightswimming". A great tune by a great band.

But how the hell does Taylor Swift have the same number of songs - three - as U2??

A list that seemed to try to be very politically correct...IMV.
Nirvana top 5?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2021 6:22 pm : link
LOL.
Re Missy Elliot Get Your Freak On.  
Mike from SI : 9/15/2021 6:28 pm : link
I'm a pretty big hip-hop fan and I don't think it would make my list of top 100 hip-hop songs ever.

The dynamic at play here is that women hip-hop artists have become way more mainstream over the past decade or so, and I suspect Rolling Stone felt the need to have representation of that. Missy was very much a forerunner of that movement. (I'm neither endorsing nor condemning that logic, just explaining my guess as to what happened.)

If they really felt the need for a woman hip-hop (or hip-hop adjacent) artist in the top 10, I would have preferred Lauryn Hill or Mary J. Blige (or even Mariah and ODB lol).

These lists tend to suck in general for a number of different reasons. But as someone who knows a lot about some genres of music but little about others, they help introduce me to new stuff. Some of you guys would have heart attacks about all the old rock I've only recently discovered.
RE: ......  
j_rud : 9/15/2021 6:28 pm : link
In comment 15367811 Route 9 said:
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If you're over 35, I really don't see what the aim is in listening to contemporary music. I'll catch a song by accident or maybe my daily news program will feature one modern song and I hear one note of it and it is just absolute, puke, garbage filth.


No offense but thats a lazy take. If you're willing to look there is some absolutely incredible new music out there. Loads of garbage but that has *always* been the case. I'm 39 and love tons of new bands. Every generation, as they age, bitch about certain things. Music is always at the top of the list. It's tired, it's lazy, and honestly, it's kinda sad.
At the same time LOL Rolling Stone  
j_rud : 9/15/2021 6:30 pm : link
I thought they hit bottom with publishing fake stories about rape and emergency rooms. Yet here they are picking up a shovel and dipping their sad little toes back into the music pool.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2021 7:03 pm : link
How in God's name is Outkast's 'Hey Ya' above the Beach Boys 'God Only Knows?' WTF?
The Top 100 :  
Grey Pilgrim : 9/15/2021 7:06 pm : link
100. Bob Dylan, 'Blowin' in the Wind' 1963
99. Bee Gees, 'Stayin' Alive' 1977
98. The Beatles, 'In My Life' 1965
97. Patti Smith, 'Gloria' 1975
96. Jay-Z, '99 Problems' 2003
95. Oasis, 'Wonderwall' 1995
94. Whitney Houston, 'I Will Always Love You' 1992
93. Kelly Clarkson, 'Since U Been Gone' 2004
92. Little Richard, 'Good Golly, Miss Molly' 1958
91. UGK feat. Outkast, 'Int'l Players Anthem (I Choose You)' 2007
90. Aretha Franklin, '(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman' 1967
89. The Beatles, 'Hey Jude' 1968
88. Guns N' Roses, 'Sweet Child O' Mine' 1987
87. LCD Soundsystem, 'All My Friends' 2007
86. The Rolling Stones, 'Tumbling Dice' 1972
85. Prince, 'Kiss' 1986
84. Al Green, 'Let's Stay Together' 1971
83. Bob Dylan, 'Desolation Row' 1965
82. Adele, 'Rolling in the Deep' 2011
81. The Velvet Underground, 'I’m Waiting for the Man' 1967
80. Ray Charles, 'What'd I Say' 1957
79. Amy Winehouse, 'Back to Black' 2006
78. The Four Tops, 'Reach Out (I'll Be There)' 1967
77. The Modern Lovers, 'Roadrunner' 1976
76. Johnny Cash, 'I Walk the Line' 1956
75. Pulp, 'Common People' 1996
74. Leonard Cohen, 'Hallelujah' 1984
73. Beyoncé, 'Formation' 2016
72. The Beatles, 'Yesterday' 1965
71. Tracy Chapman, 'Fast Car' 1988
70. Elvis Presley, 'Suspicious Minds' 1969
69. Taylor Swift, 'All Too Well' 2012
68. Chic, 'Good Times' 1979
67. Bob Dylan, 'Tangled Up in Blue' 1975
66. Simon and Garfunkel, 'Bridge Over Troubled Water' 1970
65. Earth, Wind, and Fire, 'September' 1978
64. Ramones, 'Blitzkrieg Bop' 1976
63. Dolly Parton, 'Jolene' 1974
62. U2, 'One' 1992
61. Led Zeppelin, 'Stairway to Heaven' 1971
60. Kate Bush, 'Running Up That Hill' 1985
59. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, 'The Message' 1982
58. The Band, 'The Weight' 1968
57. Sly and the Family Stone, 'Family Affair' 1971
56. Missy Elliott, 'Work It' 2000
55. Madonna, 'Like a Prayer' 1989
54. Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, 'The Tracks of My Tears' 1965
53. The Beach Boys, 'Good Vibrations' 1966
52. Donna Summer, 'I Feel Love' 1977
51. Dionne Warwick, 'Walk on By' 1964
50. Daddy Yankee feat. Glory, 'Gasolina' 2010
49. Lauryn Hill, 'Doo Wop (That Thing)' 1998
48. Radiohead, 'Idioteque' 2000
47. Elton John, 'Tiny Dancer' 1972
46. M.I.A., 'Paper Planes' 2008
45. Kendrick Lamar, 'Alright' 2015
44. Michael Jackson, 'Billie Jean' 1982
43. The Temptations, 'My Girl' 1965
42. Bob Marley and the Wailers, 'Redemption Song' 1980
41. Joy Division, 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' 1980
40. The Jimi Hendrix Experience, 'All Along the Watchtower' 1968
39. Outkast, 'B.O.B.' 2000
38. Otis Redding, '(Sittin' On) the Dock of the Bay' 1967
37. Prince and the Revolution, 'When Doves Cry' 1984
36. The White Stripes, 'Seven Nation Army' 2003
35. Little Richard, 'Tutti-Frutti' 1955
34. James Brown, 'Papa’s Got a Brand New Bag' 1966
33. Chuck Berry, 'Johnny B. Goode' 1958
32. Notorious B.I.G., 'Juicy' 1994
31. The Rolling Stones, '(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction' 1965
30. Lorde, 'Royals' 2011
29. Dr. Dre feat. Snoop Doggy Dogg, 'Nuthin' but a 'G' Thang' 1992
28. Talking Heads, 'Once in a Lifetime' 1980
27. Bruce Springsteen, 'Born to Run' 1975
26. Joni Mitchell, 'A Case of You' 1971
25. Kanye West feat. Pusha T, 'Runaway' 2010
24. The Beatles, 'A Day in the Life' 1967
23. David Bowie, 'Heroes' 1977
22. The Ronettes, 'Be My Baby' 1963
21. Billie Holiday, 'Strange Fruit' 1939
20. Robyn, 'Dancing on My Own' 2010
19. John Lennon, 'Imagine' 1971
18. Prince and the Revolution, 'Purple Rain' 1984
17. Queen, 'Bohemian Rhapsody' 1975
16. Beyoncé feat. Jay-Z, 'Crazy in Love' 2003
15. The Beatles, 'I Want to Hold Your Hand' 1963
14. The Kinks, 'Waterloo Sunset' 1967
13. The Rolling Stones, 'Gimme Shelter' 1969
12. Stevie Wonder, 'Superstition' 1972
11. The Beach Boys, 'God Only Knows' 1966
10. Outkast, 'Hey Ya!' 2003
09. Fleetwood Mac, 'Dreams' 1977
08. Missy Elliott, 'Get Ur Freak On' 2001
07. The Beatles, 'Strawberry Fields Forever' 1967
06. Marvin Gaye, 'What’s Going On' 1971
05. Nirvana, 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' 1991
04. Bob Dylan, 'Like a Rolling Stone' 1965
03. Sam Cooke, 'A Change Is Gonna Come' 1964
02. Public Enemy, 'Fight the Power' 1989
01. Aretha Franklin, 'Respect' 1967
How the fuck is 'Thunder Road' not in the top  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2021 7:09 pm : link
100?
MIA's 'Paper Planes' above  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2021 7:11 pm : link
Elton's 'Tiny Dancer'? Again, WTF?
RE: The Beatles best song is Strawberry Fields Forever?  
Milton : 9/15/2021 7:19 pm : link
In comment 15367813 Essex said:
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Yikes.
Hey, it's better than their second best song, "I Want to Hold Your Hand"!
I must say though  
j_rud : 9/15/2021 7:24 pm : link
I love the respect they're giving to Waterloo Sunset. Criminally underrated song by a serially underrated band.
I think I'd have  
Bill in UT : 9/15/2021 7:26 pm : link
a very different playlist
I stopped scrolling when  
KeoweeFan : 9/15/2021 7:38 pm : link
There has to be a rational way to match evaluators to musical generations and then merge those into an integrated list.
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Once they included Miles Davis Kind of Blue they opened up a can of worms. Was Sing, Sing, Sing written by Louis Prima and performed by Benny Goodman as part of the 1938 Carnegie Music Festival (a weekly series that traced African American music from gospel to jazz) listed? That piece was a major inflection point in American music. So what if it was "African jass", it legitimized what the then younger generation loved.

How many Scott Joplin pieces made the list? Not one Steven Foster to stretch the point?
RE: RE: ......  
Route 9 : 9/15/2021 7:40 pm : link
In comment 15367874 j_rud said:
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No offense but thats a lazy take. If you're willing to look there is some absolutely incredible new music out there. Loads of garbage but that has *always* been the case. I'm 39 and love tons of new bands. Every generation, as they age, bitch about certain things. Music is always at the top of the list. It's tired, it's lazy, and honestly, it's kinda sad.


You get what I mean. The contemporary music on the radio. The music that landed on that stupid list.

Of course. I used to have a radio show at my college and we were required to play obscure bands. Of course I know there are good bands.

But yeah. I have the right to bitch because what I do hear does indeed suck and I stuck to it.

Really? Lorde Royals? #30? GTFO here.
RE: RE: RE: ......  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2021 7:41 pm : link
In comment 15367952 Route 9 said:
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In comment 15367874 j_rud said:


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No offense but thats a lazy take. If you're willing to look there is some absolutely incredible new music out there. Loads of garbage but that has *always* been the case. I'm 39 and love tons of new bands. Every generation, as they age, bitch about certain things. Music is always at the top of the list. It's tired, it's lazy, and honestly, it's kinda sad.



You get what I mean. The contemporary music on the radio. The music that landed on that stupid list.

Of course. I used to have a radio show at my college and we were required to play obscure bands. Of course I know there are good bands.

But yeah. I have the right to bitch because what I do hear does indeed suck and I stuck to it.

Really? Lorde Royals? #30? GTFO here.


I just listened to 'Royals'. WTF? How is THAT top 3K?
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Route 9 : 9/15/2021 7:42 pm : link
And nothing's sad about it. 47 year olds listening to Billie eilish or whoever is.
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Route 9 : 9/15/2021 7:43 pm : link
I Lol'd at Missy Elliot over Purple Rain though. Funny.
Missy Elliott has 2 songs in top 100.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2021 7:44 pm : link
Bruce has 1.

WTF?
RE: Re Missy Elliot Get Your Freak On.  
JB_in_DC : 9/15/2021 7:53 pm : link
In comment 15367873 Mike from SI said:
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These lists tend to suck in general for a number of different reasons. But as someone who knows a lot about some genres of music but little about others, they help introduce me to new stuff. Some of you guys would have heart attacks about all the old rock I've only recently discovered.


I think you hit the nail on the head with some of the motivations here in a fair uncontroversial way.

Would also add - for me a great resource for finding albums from different unfamiliar genres has been the RYM Chart Tool. Albums are tagged with many different subgenres and you click around, add filters for years, etc. Been a huge part of discovering music for me. And the crowd sourced ratings are a lot better than Rolling Stone lol.
RYM Chart Tool - Filtered to show top 80s albums - ( New Window )
They have to be trolling  
montanagiant : 9/15/2021 7:57 pm : link
How does anyone in their right mind put "Robyn, 'Dancing on My Own'" Ahead of Bruce, The Beatles, B.I.G, Prince, Otis Redding, Bob Marley, and The Temptations to name just a few.

This list is idiotic and had to have been done to generate clicks
When I was growing up like every Memorial Day  
Essex : 9/15/2021 7:58 pm : link
92.3 used to do top 100 best classic rock songs, it used to be stairway to heaven number 1 and Layla number 2 every year, with Born to run usually three to five. This list Stairway is 61, maybe I missed it but I didn’t even see Layla in the top 100, and BTR is 27. Weak list for classic rock entries
RE: They have to be trolling  
Route 9 : 9/15/2021 8:01 pm : link
In comment 15367976 montanagiant said:
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How does anyone in their right mind put "Robyn, 'Dancing on My Own'" Ahead of Bruce, The Beatles, B.I.G, Prince, Otis Redding, Bob Marley, and The Temptations to name just a few.

This list is idiotic and had to have been done to generate clicks


They need to get someone to be interested in their bullshit for every time they have to walk back on a story they blatantly lie about. It's kind of their thing.
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