Like an armchair QB, I mentioned this in some other SB threads a week ago, BUT most of his runs in his first game were to the left, and on his "healthy" leg to cut on -- he didn't make any hard cuts on the "recovering" left leg and ran straight ahead on the plays to the right.
He's got to be a few weeks away from 100%, no???
I'm really hoping the NYGs don't wreck him for late season or long term if they rush him back from his injury. He's gonna be a key piece for our playoff push.
Blame the OL,
Go Giants!
If he wasnt 100% he wouldnt be out there
If he wasnt 100% he wouldnt be out there
He also had the big cut on the screen pass and then slipped. He's gotta just get used to it, especially with virtually no contact all offseason.
If he isn't breaking big plays after a few weeks I'll be concerned but for now its hard to gauge.
BUT, he never really pushed off the right side on these plays:
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He also has to get to thr point where he is not thinking qbout what mpve he is going to make..
Ot is going to take a few games
This is the dumbest post I’ve seen on bbi in quite some time.
i sense a troll or you are just a moron..
It wasnt just his rookie year, his 2nd year he had 1,000 yards, mkssed 3 games with a high anklr sprain, averaged 4.6 an attempt, had 52 catches for 500 yards..
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Has always happened . He had a great rookie season. Guy cannot block, dances constantly. Every run and catch he skips instead of just running. Rookie year bounced everything outside. League figured it out. He is a 20 carry for 25 yard running back with a garbage time 60 yarder. It’s sad when Alfred Morris and Gallman provide more confidence.
This is the dumbest post I’ve seen on bbi in quite some time.
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he did that a few times on sunday, he saw a holr and just hit it...
Well said.
I think he was cut. We could get him for nothing
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He should watch Gallman’s tape from last year... He’d slash into the line and have 5-10-15 yard gains that SB has the ability to break big time....
he did that a few times on sunday, he saw a holr and just hit it...
There were hints of your observation in their respective college careers.
Gallman out performed all RBs in college (including Saquan) for yards after contact. Wayne's shortcoming that kept him from being elite was lack of breakaway speed; eventually a gang of defenders would bring him down. But he was money in short yardage.
In the pros he was like the long tenured Colonel, not good enough to promote but too good to retire - until his price went up.
In addition to not playing specials, there must have been something else that kept him in the NYG doghouse.
Atlanta looks like his last chance. (but he is close to Loganville where he grew up and 2 hours up I85 to Clemson; there's that.)
Gall man was released by the 49ers and then signed by the Falcs
Ladies and gents, your dumbest comment if the day.
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we should definitely trade for Gallman
I think he was cut. We could get him for nothing
He’s a Falcon now. I’d give them a 2nd.
They haven't quite figured out what exactly happens over time but people who have ACL reconstruction probably lose some proprioception. There are a lot of receptors that get disrupted during surgery. Also, you have to remember that none of the grafts come free...they take a good chuck of your patellar tendon (or hamstring) for the replacement. Also...he had other injuries that caused a delay in surgery. They waited at least a month post injury. Many athletes (Peterson excepted) don't return to full form in the first year after.
Saquon is a really interesting player. He has all word talent. Even Sunday, there was one lateral movement that had a defender jumping out of his shoes...but then he slipped. With his work ethic, his drive, his personality, he was really set to become a player that could transcend the sport. I think some of us have forgotten just how hyped he was coming out of college ('best prospect in 10 years'). I don't think he lacks toughness at all. But if you were on that trajectory, to be all word, and every single play you get the ball could result in a career ending hit...I think it has to be there in the back of the mind until the 2nd contract. It is a tough position to be rise to stardom in these days. None of the current running backs are the face of the NFL.
I would have delayed his return a bit (and some true experts have also indicated as much). But either way, I have always thought he should be used in space and outside. He is not the best between the tackles runner (even in year 1). Of course, last year, I could not help thinking about him after Gallman got nipped at the ankle and went down with 20 yards in front of him. This is the paradox. Doesn't power through the holes as much as we would like...but if he does get through, he could be gone. I just don't think it happens enough to spend all of that money on the second contract. But...I hope he proves us wrong.
Unfortunately, the Giants OL performs better in a gap scheme, as they showed last year. A case of rearranging things for Saquon rather than playing to overall team strength. It's painful watching these guys zone block - it magnifies the edge blocking problem.
You need the huge ROI from Saquon to justify it. Otherwise these players are better off in a gap scheme.
Unfortunately, the Giants OL performs better in a gap scheme, as they showed last year. A case of rearranging things for Saquon rather than playing to overall team strength. It's painful watching these guys zone block - it magnifies the edge blocking problem.
You need the huge ROI from Saquon to justify it. Otherwise these players are better off in a gap scheme.
Did he excell because of a run zone, or because he was just so much better than the defenses he played against?
The OL carries a lot of freight for this, but this was supposed to be a hall of fame level player.
The OL carries a lot of freight for this, but this was supposed to be a hall of fame level player.
I get this, but his value isn't just as a runner but also as a receiver. But he needs to be doing 100 yards combined every game.
^This ^
I think he will look better in a couple weeks. Would be nice to see him get the ball with some open space to help build some confidence.
The OL carries a lot of freight for this, but this was supposed to be a hall of fame level player.
Stats don't always tell the whole story.
Given that the Giants have been a bad team during all of Barkley's tenure it's reasonable to assume that the Giants would be behind in the 2nd half of most games. And when a team is behind in the 2nd half (especially late in the game) they will choose to pass rather than run the ball to try and score quickly.
Contrast that with a good team that leads in most games. They are more likely to be ahead late in a game and therefore running the ball more in the 4th Q.
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When I commented on Saquon's tendency to dance in the backfield for a loss, I was skewered by the BBI experts here. I actually thought he danced much less last game, and just ran straight into the pile to gain 2-3 dirty yards, and didn't try to bounce it outside like in the past.
Yep. Stop dancing, stick your nose in and push the pile. Guy is billed as a powerful runner along with his speed. If he ran like Ahmed Bradshaw the Giants would benefit and so would he.
He may be a bit leary right now.
This wins the "dumb post of the year".
OL has to get the running game going. SB is missing holes and creases at times, but there's often nowhere for him to run. Garrett needs to figure out how to get him going in the passing game too, 90+ catches as a rookie informs your decision to mix it up.
OL has to get the running game going. SB is missing holes and creases at times, but there's often nowhere for him to run. Garrett needs to figure out how to get him going in the passing game too, 90+ catches as a rookie informs your decision to mix it up.
It really does mystify me why he is not utilized as a pass catcher more. That was one of the big reasons we drafted him, ie he was more than just an RB.
On a related note, I have no idea why we never run RPO.
Many PSU RBs have had debilitating ACL injuries that terminated their careers.
Daniel Jones is much more effective when Barkley is healthy.
After his rookie season GMs, scouts, and players were polled and named Saquon the best RB in the NFL. A GM said he could score from anywhere on the field, and players called Barkley the most explosive runner in football.
Saquon is not soft. He broke more tackles than any RB in his first season. The Giants have an abysmal OL, and they don't have many weapons. Barkley takes a lot of hard hits.
Saquon is a generational talent, and I hope he fully recovers from his injury.