May not be the answer either, but poor play design and calling is the major issue. How often do you see Giant WR just running in open space. See against the Giants all the time. Every throw is with a Cb on the back on a stick or an out. Rarely use layered crossing routes, picks or something to take advantage of the skill players.
It means when his first read is open he'll get the ball there. When it isn't, he has trouble going through his progressions. This is not good for a QB and this seems to have been a problem since day 1. Most QB's, when given time, look really good (as one might expect). Jones does not.
least prepared. Actually that might be the wrong term ... Garret is boring. I thought he would be a better coordinator than a head coach.
Most guys are great coordinators and then try to be the head coach and for whatever reason - they just don't have that "thing" that makes a great head coach. BUt, they still know Football.
I thought by going back to OC - he would have success. I am not seeing it. Even columnists that don't cover the Giants regularly are calling them boring on O and they need better play-calling. But, that could be because they are typing what everyone else is saying?
They seemed like they were playing a pre-season game plan last week. Running the type of plays that do not reveal to much.
least prepared. Actually that might be the wrong term ... Garret is boring. I thought he would be a better coordinator than a head coach.
Most guys are great coordinators and then try to be the head coach and for whatever reason - they just don't have that "thing" that makes a great head coach. BUt, they still know Football.
I thought by going back to OC - he would have success. I am not seeing it. Even columnists that don't cover the Giants regularly are calling them boring on O and they need better play-calling. But, that could be because they are typing what everyone else is saying?
They seemed like they were playing a pre-season game plan last week. Running the type of plays that do not reveal to much.
Short lease that last comment may be the most accurate representation I have read this week.
I read so many comments on how the line can't pass block, but is good on run block.
Then I read more on how they can pass block but not run block.
Are there different games on the TV for different groups of BBIers to watch?
It means when his first read is open he'll get the ball there. When it isn't, he has trouble going through his progressions. This is not good for a QB and this seems to have been a problem since day 1. Most QB's, when given time, look really good (as one might expect). Jones does not.
Major red flag.
This isn't necessarily true. If the receivers' routes are all breaking at the same time then there's really no progressions to go through. It would be interesting to know the totality of the route concepts from Sunday. Then we'd have better idea of Jones's post-snap capabilities.
I read so many comments on how the line can't pass block, but is good on run block.
Then I read more on how they can pass block but not run block.
Are there different games on the TV for different groups of BBIers to watch?
Absolutely. I got the TV that shows how this was the worst rebuilding process of an NFL team in the past decade or so.
May not be the answer either, but poor play design and calling is the major issue. How often do you see Giant WR just running in open space. See against the Giants all the time. Every throw is with a Cb on the back on a stick or an out. Rarely use layered crossing routes, picks or something to take advantage of the skill players.
If Jones is not the answer, then by definition he is the problem. In the modern NFL you need a QB who stands up and becomes the answer.
in another mystery, ESPN ranks DJ ahead of Bridgewater
May not be the answer either, but poor play design and calling is the major issue. How often do you see Giant WR just running in open space. See against the Giants all the time. Every throw is with a Cb on the back on a stick or an out. Rarely use layered crossing routes, picks or something to take advantage of the skill players.
If a QB picked in the top 10 is not elevating players around him, it's a problem.
Hes not even a better player than two years ago in any measurable way. He's certainly a problem.
I read so many comments on how the line can't pass block, but is good on run block.
Then I read more on how they can pass block but not run block.
Are there different games on the TV for different groups of BBIers to watch?
The Giants guy and large were better run blocking last year than in pass pro. They made a bunch of changes to the line, and looks like it flipped.
I actually think Jones goes through his progressions well. Don’t think that’s ever been the issue.
Really...you think DJ sees the field well and goes thru his progressions in a expedited manner?
I agree with him. Jones really isn’t the “bad QB” people are making him out to be. Garrett is TERRIBLE.
GoDeep - i dont think Jones is bad either. But there is nothing wrong with supporting a player but discussing key areas of development that are needed.
There is no reason why we can't say Jones should be the starting NYG QB in 2021 but he has to be better/quicker reading the field.
There is no reason we can't say Dak Prescott hasn't won anything but he certainly looks to be one of the top 10 QBs in the league.
There is no reason we can't say Justin Herbert has a lot to prove but he looked to be in control versus WFT and threw ropes all around that field on Sunday.
I actually think Jones goes through his progressions well. Don’t think that’s ever been the issue.
Really...you think DJ sees the field well and goes thru his progressions in a expedited manner?
I agree with him. Jones really isn’t the “bad QB” people are making him out to be. Garrett is TERRIBLE.
GoDeep - i dont think Jones is bad either. But there is nothing wrong with supporting a player but discussing key areas of development that are needed.
There is no reason why we can't say Jones should be the starting NYG QB in 2021 but he has to be better/quicker reading the field.
There is no reason we can't say Dak Prescott hasn't won anything but he certainly looks to be one of the top 10 QBs in the league.
There is no reason we can't say Justin Herbert has a lot to prove but he looked to be in control versus WFT and threw ropes all around that field on Sunday.
if anything, he stays too long in the pocket. He’s fine at progressions - case in point the throw he makes to the sideline from the opposite hash from time to time to a wide open WR, that’s not the first read. He’s fine with that stuff. It’s when he just waits too long to make a decision that screws things up. It’s almost like he hasn’t figured out that you can scramble after your second read is done. He sits back there because he can take a hit, but you gotta just be quicker.
if anything, he stays too long in the pocket. He’s fine at progressions - case in point the throw he makes to the sideline from the opposite hash from time to time to a wide open WR, that’s not the first read. He’s fine with that stuff. It’s when he just waits too long to make a decision that screws things up. It’s almost like he hasn’t figured out that you can scramble after your second read is done. He sits back there because he can take a hit, but you gotta just be quicker.
He does not seem to be good at progressions. He locks onto receivers. He is ok finding the safety valve on occasion. One of his best plays is rolling right on a busted play and finding Slayton down the sideline. That's a play he has done well many times. But sitting in the pocket scanning his options, and letting loose in less than four seconds, He can't do it on a consistent basis. Plus he is slow to process and slow to release.
I actually think Jones goes through his progressions well. Don’t think that’s ever been the issue.
Really...you think DJ sees the field well and goes thru his progressions in a expedited manner?
I agree with him. Jones really isn’t the “bad QB” people are making him out to be. Garrett is TERRIBLE.
GoDeep - i dont think Jones is bad either. But there is nothing wrong with supporting a player but discussing key areas of development that are needed.
There is no reason why we can't say Jones should be the starting NYG QB in 2021 but he has to be better/quicker reading the field.
There is no reason we can't say Dak Prescott hasn't won anything but he certainly looks to be one of the top 10 QBs in the league.
There is no reason we can't say Justin Herbert has a lot to prove but he looked to be in control versus WFT and threw ropes all around that field on Sunday.
Is there?
Googs.. Jones is bad.
I simply am not there yet. He is in such a bad situation it is insane.
I really want DJ to be able to rise above the weak roster of players that moron GM gave him on Offense, and the obvious drab play-calling he is provided by Garrett. He may never get there, I know. But this team isn't doing anything yet anyway so I can wait it out for a few months.
With DJ's failure, does come some good upstairs.
Though, I do ask from time to time...what are we doing?
if anything, he stays too long in the pocket. He’s fine at progressions - case in point the throw he makes to the sideline from the opposite hash from time to time to a wide open WR, that’s not the first read. He’s fine with that stuff. It’s when he just waits too long to make a decision that screws things up. It’s almost like he hasn’t figured out that you can scramble after your second read is done. He sits back there because he can take a hit, but you gotta just be quicker.
Generally fair statements but not aligned with saying he is "fine" with progressions if it takes him too long to get thru it.
Read, react and make a decisive throw/scramble. You don't get the luxury of time behind that OL...wake up.
I actually think Jones goes through his progressions well. Don’t think that’s ever been the issue.
Really...you think DJ sees the field well and goes thru his progressions in a expedited manner?
I agree with him. Jones really isn’t the “bad QB” people are making him out to be. Garrett is TERRIBLE.
GoDeep - i dont think Jones is bad either. But there is nothing wrong with supporting a player but discussing key areas of development that are needed.
There is no reason why we can't say Jones should be the starting NYG QB in 2021 but he has to be better/quicker reading the field.
There is no reason we can't say Dak Prescott hasn't won anything but he certainly looks to be one of the top 10 QBs in the league.
There is no reason we can't say Justin Herbert has a lot to prove but he looked to be in control versus WFT and threw ropes all around that field on Sunday.
Is there?
Googs.. Jones is bad.
I simply am not there yet. He is in such a bad situation it is insane.
I really want DJ to be able to rise above the weak roster of players that moron GM gave him on Offense, and the obvious drab play-calling he is provided by Garrett. He may never get there, I know. But this team isn't doing anything yet anyway so I can wait it out for a few months.
With DJ's failure, does come some good upstairs.
Though, I do ask from time to time...what are we doing?
But part of what makes this situation bad is that he lacks the talent to ball out and make plays on a consistent basis. And if he is going to make mistakes, like he habitually does, then he needs to make up for it by throwing 3, 4, 5 TDs. We scored 7 points last week. This is bananas. He plays like a backup. All he has flashed is decent athletic ability and the occasional pretty pass. The main problem with our organization is that they are not accepting what Jones is. And we are waiting for some unknown, magic moment when we have seen enough. We have seen enough. even if he has a good game or two, it's obvious this kid is not elite. The kid is not a baller.
and free agency and the draft for other QBs is next Spring. And we have two first round picks to play with if the Draft has some prospects or if we want to use them to trade for a current NFL QB.
There is nothing to do right now but let it play out...
RE: That's all fine and good. But it's September 2021
and free agency and the draft for other QBs is next Spring. And we have two first round picks to play with if the Draft has some prospects or if we want to use them to trade for a current NFL QB.
There is nothing to do right now but let it play out...
Of course. Daniel Jones is the best QB we have now and he needs to start. Personally, I would have thought about drafting Fields or Mac Jones. I would have started the succession. I don't fear QB competition. If your QB can't handle the heat of fair competition, how's he gonna handle a top D like the Bucs in January. He's a QB, not a prince..
RE: RE: That's all fine and good. But it's September 2021
and free agency and the draft for other QBs is next Spring. And we have two first round picks to play with if the Draft has some prospects or if we want to use them to trade for a current NFL QB.
There is nothing to do right now but let it play out...
Of course. Daniel Jones is the best QB we have now and he needs to start. Personally, I would have thought about drafting Fields or Mac Jones. I would have started the succession. I don't fear QB competition. If your QB can't handle the heat of fair competition, how's he gonna handle a top D like the Bucs in January. He's a QB, not a prince..
According to many here he's Goldie Locks, and it's unfair to say anything negative about him until his situation is juuuuuust right
RE: RE: RE: That's all fine and good. But it's September 2021
and free agency and the draft for other QBs is next Spring. And we have two first round picks to play with if the Draft has some prospects or if we want to use them to trade for a current NFL QB.
There is nothing to do right now but let it play out...
Of course. Daniel Jones is the best QB we have now and he needs to start. Personally, I would have thought about drafting Fields or Mac Jones. I would have started the succession. I don't fear QB competition. If your QB can't handle the heat of fair competition, how's he gonna handle a top D like the Bucs in January. He's a QB, not a prince..
According to many here he's Goldie Locks, and it's unfair to say anything negative about him until his situation is juuuuuust right
i’d be willing to bet there is less than one person that believes this.
Stop being an asshole because people don’t agree with you.
RE: RE: That's all fine and good. But it's September 2021
and free agency and the draft for other QBs is next Spring. And we have two first round picks to play with if the Draft has some prospects or if we want to use them to trade for a current NFL QB.
There is nothing to do right now but let it play out...
Of course. Daniel Jones is the best QB we have now and he needs to start. Personally, I would have thought about drafting Fields or Mac Jones. I would have started the succession. I don't fear QB competition. If your QB can't handle the heat of fair competition, how's he gonna handle a top D like the Bucs in January. He's a QB, not a prince..
Drafting Mac Jones would have resulted in a total shitshow on BBI
RE: RE: RE: That's all fine and good. But it's September 2021
and free agency and the draft for other QBs is next Spring. And we have two first round picks to play with if the Draft has some prospects or if we want to use them to trade for a current NFL QB.
There is nothing to do right now but let it play out...
Of course. Daniel Jones is the best QB we have now and he needs to start. Personally, I would have thought about drafting Fields or Mac Jones. I would have started the succession. I don't fear QB competition. If your QB can't handle the heat of fair competition, how's he gonna handle a top D like the Bucs in January. He's a QB, not a prince..
Drafting Mac Jones would have resulted in a total shitshow on BBI
He was a field manager, no arm talent, no mobility stiff who benefitted from the Alabama talent surrounding him
RE: RE: RE: That's all fine and good. But it's September 2021
and free agency and the draft for other QBs is next Spring. And we have two first round picks to play with if the Draft has some prospects or if we want to use them to trade for a current NFL QB.
There is nothing to do right now but let it play out...
Of course. Daniel Jones is the best QB we have now and he needs to start. Personally, I would have thought about drafting Fields or Mac Jones. I would have started the succession. I don't fear QB competition. If your QB can't handle the heat of fair competition, how's he gonna handle a top D like the Bucs in January. He's a QB, not a prince..
Drafting Mac Jones would have resulted in a total shitshow on BBI
He was a field manager, no arm talent, no mobility stiff who benefitted from the Alabama talent surrounding him
and free agency and the draft for other QBs is next Spring. And we have two first round picks to play with if the Draft has some prospects or if we want to use them to trade for a current NFL QB.
There is nothing to do right now but let it play out...
Of course. Daniel Jones is the best QB we have now and he needs to start. Personally, I would have thought about drafting Fields or Mac Jones. I would have started the succession. I don't fear QB competition. If your QB can't handle the heat of fair competition, how's he gonna handle a top D like the Bucs in January. He's a QB, not a prince..
Drafting Mac Jones would have resulted in a total shitshow on BBI
He was a field manager, no arm talent, no mobility stiff who benefitted from the Alabama talent surrounding him
You may be right about that. Though there was significant buzz about Mac when it was rumored that SF traded up for him, which I never believed. But he has looked good. he is exceedingly accurate, has football smarts, and seems to process quickly. With these three traits he may well overcome his limited athletic traits. I think that would have been the story, if we drafted him.
Major red flag.
least prepared. Actually that might be the wrong term ... Garret is boring. I thought he would be a better coordinator than a head coach.
Most guys are great coordinators and then try to be the head coach and for whatever reason - they just don't have that "thing" that makes a great head coach. BUt, they still know Football.
I thought by going back to OC - he would have success. I am not seeing it. Even columnists that don't cover the Giants regularly are calling them boring on O and they need better play-calling. But, that could be because they are typing what everyone else is saying?
They seemed like they were playing a pre-season game plan last week. Running the type of plays that do not reveal to much.
least prepared. Actually that might be the wrong term ... Garret is boring. I thought he would be a better coordinator than a head coach.
Most guys are great coordinators and then try to be the head coach and for whatever reason - they just don't have that "thing" that makes a great head coach. BUt, they still know Football.
I thought by going back to OC - he would have success. I am not seeing it. Even columnists that don't cover the Giants regularly are calling them boring on O and they need better play-calling. But, that could be because they are typing what everyone else is saying?
They seemed like they were playing a pre-season game plan last week. Running the type of plays that do not reveal to much.
Short lease that last comment may be the most accurate representation I have read this week.
nice job...
What I could say, though, is that there were numerous occasions when Jones got rid of the ball really quickly, though.
Then I read more on how they can pass block but not run block.
Are there different games on the TV for different groups of BBIers to watch?
Major red flag.
This isn't necessarily true. If the receivers' routes are all breaking at the same time then there's really no progressions to go through. It would be interesting to know the totality of the route concepts from Sunday. Then we'd have better idea of Jones's post-snap capabilities.
Then I read more on how they can pass block but not run block.
Are there different games on the TV for different groups of BBIers to watch?
Absolutely. I got the TV that shows how this was the worst rebuilding process of an NFL team in the past decade or so.
Which TV did you get?
If Jones is not the answer, then by definition he is the problem. In the modern NFL you need a QB who stands up and becomes the answer.
Link - ( New Window )
They are throwing a bone to Giants fans.
If a QB picked in the top 10 is not elevating players around him, it's a problem.
Hes not even a better player than two years ago in any measurable way. He's certainly a problem.
Then I read more on how they can pass block but not run block.
Are there different games on the TV for different groups of BBIers to watch?
The Giants guy and large were better run blocking last year than in pass pro. They made a bunch of changes to the line, and looks like it flipped.
It’s just one game, but it happened.
If only he had a better offensive coordinator than Garrett to take advantage of that good protection.
Do I have that right?
You have a point there.
If only he had a better offensive coordinator than Garrett to take advantage of that good protection.
Do I have that right?
It seems to be the case, bw. ;)
Really...you think DJ sees the field well and goes thru his progressions in a expedited manner?
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I actually think Jones goes through his progressions well. Don’t think that’s ever been the issue.
Really...you think DJ sees the field well and goes thru his progressions in a expedited manner?
Take a guess when the last time he threw for at least 285 yards was
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Gotta hope for a clean game from #8 tomorrow. Let’s put up 285 and 2-3 TD without a pick. That would quiet the critics for a week..
Take a guess when the last time he threw for at least 285 yards was
My guess would be the team we are playing tomorrow, 2019
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I actually think Jones goes through his progressions well. Don’t think that’s ever been the issue.
Really...you think DJ sees the field well and goes thru his progressions in a expedited manner?
I agree with him. Jones really isn’t the “bad QB” people are making him out to be. Garrett is TERRIBLE.
GoDeep - i dont think Jones is bad either. But there is nothing wrong with supporting a player but discussing key areas of development that are needed.
There is no reason why we can't say Jones should be the starting NYG QB in 2021 but he has to be better/quicker reading the field.
There is no reason we can't say Dak Prescott hasn't won anything but he certainly looks to be one of the top 10 QBs in the league.
There is no reason we can't say Justin Herbert has a lot to prove but he looked to be in control versus WFT and threw ropes all around that field on Sunday.
Is there?
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I actually think Jones goes through his progressions well. Don’t think that’s ever been the issue.
Really...you think DJ sees the field well and goes thru his progressions in a expedited manner?
I agree with him. Jones really isn’t the “bad QB” people are making him out to be. Garrett is TERRIBLE.
GoDeep - i dont think Jones is bad either. But there is nothing wrong with supporting a player but discussing key areas of development that are needed.
There is no reason why we can't say Jones should be the starting NYG QB in 2021 but he has to be better/quicker reading the field.
There is no reason we can't say Dak Prescott hasn't won anything but he certainly looks to be one of the top 10 QBs in the league.
There is no reason we can't say Justin Herbert has a lot to prove but he looked to be in control versus WFT and threw ropes all around that field on Sunday.
Is there?
Googs.. Jones is bad.
He does not seem to be good at progressions. He locks onto receivers. He is ok finding the safety valve on occasion. One of his best plays is rolling right on a busted play and finding Slayton down the sideline. That's a play he has done well many times. But sitting in the pocket scanning his options, and letting loose in less than four seconds, He can't do it on a consistent basis. Plus he is slow to process and slow to release.
In comment 15367968 ryanmkeane said:
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I actually think Jones goes through his progressions well. Don’t think that’s ever been the issue.
Really...you think DJ sees the field well and goes thru his progressions in a expedited manner?
I agree with him. Jones really isn’t the “bad QB” people are making him out to be. Garrett is TERRIBLE.
GoDeep - i dont think Jones is bad either. But there is nothing wrong with supporting a player but discussing key areas of development that are needed.
There is no reason why we can't say Jones should be the starting NYG QB in 2021 but he has to be better/quicker reading the field.
There is no reason we can't say Dak Prescott hasn't won anything but he certainly looks to be one of the top 10 QBs in the league.
There is no reason we can't say Justin Herbert has a lot to prove but he looked to be in control versus WFT and threw ropes all around that field on Sunday.
Is there?
Googs.. Jones is bad.
I simply am not there yet. He is in such a bad situation it is insane.
I really want DJ to be able to rise above the weak roster of players that moron GM gave him on Offense, and the obvious drab play-calling he is provided by Garrett. He may never get there, I know. But this team isn't doing anything yet anyway so I can wait it out for a few months.
With DJ's failure, does come some good upstairs.
Though, I do ask from time to time...what are we doing?
Generally fair statements but not aligned with saying he is "fine" with progressions if it takes him too long to get thru it.
Read, react and make a decisive throw/scramble. You don't get the luxury of time behind that OL...wake up.
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I actually think Jones goes through his progressions well. Don’t think that’s ever been the issue.
Really...you think DJ sees the field well and goes thru his progressions in a expedited manner?
I agree with him. Jones really isn’t the “bad QB” people are making him out to be. Garrett is TERRIBLE.
GoDeep - i dont think Jones is bad either. But there is nothing wrong with supporting a player but discussing key areas of development that are needed.
There is no reason why we can't say Jones should be the starting NYG QB in 2021 but he has to be better/quicker reading the field.
There is no reason we can't say Dak Prescott hasn't won anything but he certainly looks to be one of the top 10 QBs in the league.
There is no reason we can't say Justin Herbert has a lot to prove but he looked to be in control versus WFT and threw ropes all around that field on Sunday.
Is there?
Googs.. Jones is bad.
I simply am not there yet. He is in such a bad situation it is insane.
I really want DJ to be able to rise above the weak roster of players that moron GM gave him on Offense, and the obvious drab play-calling he is provided by Garrett. He may never get there, I know. But this team isn't doing anything yet anyway so I can wait it out for a few months.
With DJ's failure, does come some good upstairs.
Though, I do ask from time to time...what are we doing?
But part of what makes this situation bad is that he lacks the talent to ball out and make plays on a consistent basis. And if he is going to make mistakes, like he habitually does, then he needs to make up for it by throwing 3, 4, 5 TDs. We scored 7 points last week. This is bananas. He plays like a backup. All he has flashed is decent athletic ability and the occasional pretty pass. The main problem with our organization is that they are not accepting what Jones is. And we are waiting for some unknown, magic moment when we have seen enough. We have seen enough. even if he has a good game or two, it's obvious this kid is not elite. The kid is not a baller.
There is nothing to do right now but let it play out...
There is nothing to do right now but let it play out...
Of course. Daniel Jones is the best QB we have now and he needs to start. Personally, I would have thought about drafting Fields or Mac Jones. I would have started the succession. I don't fear QB competition. If your QB can't handle the heat of fair competition, how's he gonna handle a top D like the Bucs in January. He's a QB, not a prince..
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and free agency and the draft for other QBs is next Spring. And we have two first round picks to play with if the Draft has some prospects or if we want to use them to trade for a current NFL QB.
There is nothing to do right now but let it play out...
Of course. Daniel Jones is the best QB we have now and he needs to start. Personally, I would have thought about drafting Fields or Mac Jones. I would have started the succession. I don't fear QB competition. If your QB can't handle the heat of fair competition, how's he gonna handle a top D like the Bucs in January. He's a QB, not a prince..
According to many here he's Goldie Locks, and it's unfair to say anything negative about him until his situation is juuuuuust right
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and free agency and the draft for other QBs is next Spring. And we have two first round picks to play with if the Draft has some prospects or if we want to use them to trade for a current NFL QB.
There is nothing to do right now but let it play out...
Of course. Daniel Jones is the best QB we have now and he needs to start. Personally, I would have thought about drafting Fields or Mac Jones. I would have started the succession. I don't fear QB competition. If your QB can't handle the heat of fair competition, how's he gonna handle a top D like the Bucs in January. He's a QB, not a prince..
According to many here he's Goldie Locks, and it's unfair to say anything negative about him until his situation is juuuuuust right
Stop being an asshole because people don’t agree with you.
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and free agency and the draft for other QBs is next Spring. And we have two first round picks to play with if the Draft has some prospects or if we want to use them to trade for a current NFL QB.
There is nothing to do right now but let it play out...
Of course. Daniel Jones is the best QB we have now and he needs to start. Personally, I would have thought about drafting Fields or Mac Jones. I would have started the succession. I don't fear QB competition. If your QB can't handle the heat of fair competition, how's he gonna handle a top D like the Bucs in January. He's a QB, not a prince..
Drafting Mac Jones would have resulted in a total shitshow on BBI
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and free agency and the draft for other QBs is next Spring. And we have two first round picks to play with if the Draft has some prospects or if we want to use them to trade for a current NFL QB.
There is nothing to do right now but let it play out...
Of course. Daniel Jones is the best QB we have now and he needs to start. Personally, I would have thought about drafting Fields or Mac Jones. I would have started the succession. I don't fear QB competition. If your QB can't handle the heat of fair competition, how's he gonna handle a top D like the Bucs in January. He's a QB, not a prince..
Drafting Mac Jones would have resulted in a total shitshow on BBI
He was a field manager, no arm talent, no mobility stiff who benefitted from the Alabama talent surrounding him
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and free agency and the draft for other QBs is next Spring. And we have two first round picks to play with if the Draft has some prospects or if we want to use them to trade for a current NFL QB.
There is nothing to do right now but let it play out...
Of course. Daniel Jones is the best QB we have now and he needs to start. Personally, I would have thought about drafting Fields or Mac Jones. I would have started the succession. I don't fear QB competition. If your QB can't handle the heat of fair competition, how's he gonna handle a top D like the Bucs in January. He's a QB, not a prince..
Drafting Mac Jones would have resulted in a total shitshow on BBI
He was a field manager, no arm talent, no mobility stiff who benefitted from the Alabama talent surrounding him
There is good content here. Take the negativity with a grain of salt most of it is just emotional outbursts.
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In comment 15368077 Jimmy Googs said:
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and free agency and the draft for other QBs is next Spring. And we have two first round picks to play with if the Draft has some prospects or if we want to use them to trade for a current NFL QB.
There is nothing to do right now but let it play out...
Of course. Daniel Jones is the best QB we have now and he needs to start. Personally, I would have thought about drafting Fields or Mac Jones. I would have started the succession. I don't fear QB competition. If your QB can't handle the heat of fair competition, how's he gonna handle a top D like the Bucs in January. He's a QB, not a prince..
Drafting Mac Jones would have resulted in a total shitshow on BBI
He was a field manager, no arm talent, no mobility stiff who benefitted from the Alabama talent surrounding him
You may be right about that. Though there was significant buzz about Mac when it was rumored that SF traded up for him, which I never believed. But he has looked good. he is exceedingly accurate, has football smarts, and seems to process quickly. With these three traits he may well overcome his limited athletic traits. I think that would have been the story, if we drafted him.
There is good content here. Take the negativity with a grain of salt most of it is just emotional outbursts.
im not sure there's enough salt.
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stop visiting BBI until game 8 :P
You have a point there.
Ah...The higher the horse, the bigger the fall fellas...