Answering a question from a fan about Saquon’s production so in the NFL.
| The Giants’ running back is a home run threat without consistent yardage totals. |
He has some comps to Zeke and Taylor from college and the NFL which are interesting though not encouraging.
Breer Mailbag - (
New Window )
Quote:
Christian, I did not catch that. What happened?
Quote:
Q: Were there holes did you think? You hadn’t played with (Running Back) Saquon (Barkley) in a long time. Were there holes and he was just missing them or were there no holes?
A: A little bit of both. Sometimes there was a little hole here that he could have maybe stuck to, but sometimes there was not a hole at all, and he tried to make a play and he just couldn’t. But we just got to no matter what, just as an offensive line be able to make sure he has a hole to run through and just give him a little bit of something, so that he can see. He’s been out for a whole year, so he has to just regain his confidence in us and get to running the ball again and get comfortable back there.
This is coming from a captain and a member of the much maligned offensive line that’s alleged to be the source of pretty much all Giants problems. If Lemieux is putting this out to the media I can only wonder what the guys in the o line room are thinking and saying to each other. This team needs a win in the worst way.
Quote:
In comment 15368909 allstarjim said:
Quote:
In comment 15368787 WillVAB said:
Quote:
In comment 15368744 allstarjim said:
Quote:
In comment 15368725 Mike from Ohio said:
Quote:
He is a terrible pass blocker, so you almost have to split him out wide to get his defender away from the QB. You can't rely on him to be inside and even get a chip before he releases out of the backfield.
Barkley is a tough guy and smart as hell. It is a mystery to me how he can be so poor at pass pro.
He isn't. It's a BBI bias. He's not the best of all-time at it or the best in the NFL right now, but he is competent. BBI only remembers the blocks he misses. And all RBs miss blocks.
I saw at least one great blitz pickup from Barkley on Sunday, and not a peep from BBI about it.
You’ve been blowing Barkley since the draft he was selected in. It’s quite remarkable how hard you’ve doubled down on your Barkley take. It’s ok to be wrong.
Barkley is purely a home run threat with massive holes in his game. Assuming he’s even still a HR threat with the gimpy knee.
The best outcome for the Giants would be Barkley stringing together a few good games and a team like the Rams or niners calls offering a 1st for him.
Let me tell you something, bruv. Nobody was talking about him like this after his rookie year. Yeah, some were saying you shouldn't take a RB at 2 overall, ever. But nobody was saying anything about him not being a tremendous player.
Now, in 2019, in the two games prior to his injury, he ran 29 times for 227 yards and a touchdown, adding 47 yards through the air. Then he got hurt in week 3, a 6-8 week injury, and he missed only 3 games and came back to soon, and Saquon admitted he came back before he was ready. I said it then and I'll say it now. For Shurmur to allow that, it was a fire-able offense on just that. It was painfully obvious he wasn't close to 100% and he played 5-7 weeks where he really shouldn't have been on the field.
Then he finally, late in the season, gets back to being close to full strength and he runs for 393 yards on 63 attempts in the last 3 games of the season, adds 146 yards receiving, and had 5 total TDs.
In 2018, he led the NFL in yards after contact.
In 2019, he was 9th in the NFL in yards above/below expected per attempt:
And he did this while playing VERY compromised, on a bad ankle, for more than half of his games that year.
I don't mind fair criticism. What I will call out is bullshit created out of thin air because a guy got hurt. Guys get hurt all the time. It's the NFL. Saquon is still human, if he's hurt and he plays, he's not going to perform at what he's capable of if he's not hurt. Saquon has taken way too much grief for merely getting hurt.
He's gotten shit on this board for last season for committing the crime of tearing his ACL, and also getting bottled up by the Steelers' defense in week 1. Out of all the criticism, this is the one that is the most intellectually dishonest. Anyone that criticizes Saquon for that game is either a moron or just didn't watch that game.
Watch the damn game. Pittsburgh had ONE gameplan going into that game...throw the kitchen sink at Saquon, make Daniel Jones beat you. I've never seen the number of 9-man boxes that a RB has had to go through. Saquon never even had a chance often a defender meeting him just as he was receiving the ball.
Jones and Garrett should've been going over the top and hitting them deep a lot more. They did do it once to Slayton, scoring a deep TD, because why? Because both safeties and all 4 linebackers were crashing down in the box. They were playing zero, one on one on the outside, and for once Daniel Jones did what he was supposed to do.
I've even see people argue like he played 2 games last year and did nothing. I think he played one snap in the 2nd quarter in the Bears game last year. BTW, he had 4 carries for 28 yards when he got hurt. But people are going to act like, oh, look he only got 28 yards in his other game last year, duh. In ONE QUARTER OF PLAY. I mean, he touched the ball 4 times and got hurt on their 3rd possession of the game!
Just be honest. Some of y'all didn't like the pick and so you say he sucks, when actually, a healthy Saquon is the best RB in football, with only CMC and Derrick Henry able to provide an argument.
There is no RB in football I would trade a healthy Saquon for. The only problem with Saquon is he's had bad luck with injuries. Other than that, he's terrific.
You know who really thinks so also? Mike Tomlin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ta_aUXf9e8
So I'm not going to play pretend with you guys like this player isn't one of the best skill position players ever to don a Giants' uniform. And I can't wait for somewhere around week 4 when he's going to shut all y'all's dumb fucking mouths.
It's so funny when someone posts something that they think is in favor of the argument they're trying to make... and they end up arguing against it.
Does that chart look particularly favorable to SB in you opinion, Jim?
In context, where he played at least half of his games on a high ankle sprain that would've and should've had most players in physical therapy and treatment, yes.
RBs get injured frequently. That's why you don't take them so high in the draft.
Please stop making my point for me.