Literally nobody thinks we can win this game

But winning is needed

to whatever happened the week before. One is not a good sample size in anything.

Nobody is 8 out of 11 people? Lol.

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is literally in opposition to being literally nobody. Sorry, pet peeve

In comment 15368479 Bill in UT said:

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is literally in opposition to being literally nobody. Sorry, pet peeve

it was not meant to be read "literally" it was meant as a joke that the experts are usually worse than the Giants so we might have something going here

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In comment 15368479 Bill in UT said: Quote: is literally in opposition to being literally nobody. Sorry, pet peeve it was not meant to be read "literally" it was meant as a joke that the experts are usually worse than the Giants so we might have something going here

Oh. Okay

That’s not literally everybody.

My response? What do you expect? Going off the team record over the last 3 years, the NYG are the NFL’s doormat.

If we lose, I expect most prognosticators to pick Atlanta to beat us next Sunday too.

when we aren't being picked. I think this game will be an much better Gmen game than people think.

the Giants are the only team not have a winning record even for a single week...in 4 seasons. I get that there are different players on the team, but the stench of the past 4 (hell, make that a decade) is still very much here. The coaching is awful (that includes Judge), the GM is a joke, and the players suck ass.

i mean FFS they are playing the redskins with no QB.

a few simple but obvious things needed to be done
1) run north south
2) chip the edge rushers and then release to flat or arrow
3) throw open KG
4) make WFT have to account for Jones in running game
5) do not allow simple man beaters across the middle--- the QB isn't great, make him make great throws.
6) contain logan thomas.

none of these are big asks. they are not playing a great opponent.

We aren't getting that back until we put a quality product on the field and win some football games. The perception is that we're stuck in the past. DG doesn't help things with his pompous air and "I'm the smartest guy in the room" attitude as he makes one controversial selection after another, none of which have yet to pay dividends.

The guy does not know how to pass block. Last week he let a blitzer have a free run at DJ.

No way in hell he starts for TC

Adoree Jackson? Cmon

In comment 15368489 The_Boss said:

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That’s not literally everybody. My response? What do you expect? Going off the team record over the last 3 years, the NYG are the NFL’s doormat. If we lose, I expect most prognosticators to pick Atlanta to beat us next Sunday too.

It was about 15 of 18 and "literally" really wasn't the point (but 15 of 18 is not really just a majority), it was the Carl Spackler line from Caddyshack. It was a joke. Obviously, not a good one.

pick the Giants to win a game?


they've been awful for a fucking decade

when you are "literally" not being "literal", don't complain when you get called out on it.

As to 8 of 11 "experts" going with WFT, what for you expect? We've been dogshit for 4 years, and 8 of the last 9. Granted, WFT has hardly lit the world on fire, but they've been better. You want to shut people up? Win some games.

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pick the Giants to win a game? they've been awful for a fucking decade

Because despite the streak, we own a 4 game winning streak over The Team.

and I didnt see any experts pick the Giants to beat Denver

Part of me was happy because i was thinking of the 2007 playoff run when no one picked the Giants to win any of the playoff games or the SB and they won every one.

HOWEVER, they were all right, because not only did the Giants not beat Denver, they were downright awful.

So when i see people on TV picking the Giants to lose, i think to myself, that person just wants to be good at their job....

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when you are "literally" not being "literal", don't complain when you get called out on it. As to 8 of 11 "experts" going with WFT, what for you expect? We've been dogshit for 4 years, and 8 of the last 9. Granted, WFT has hardly lit the world on fire, but they've been better. You want to shut people up? Win some games.

I am not complaining about being imprecise; I was and have 0 problem admitting it. I am complaining about the obtuse focus on that when that plainly was not the point. The entire post was about the media being so wrong that maybe we got shot tonight (not that it was a serious point anyway but whatever).

In comment 15368500 hitdog42 said:

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i mean FFS they are playing the redskins with no QB. a few simple but obvious things needed to be done 1) run north south 2) chip the edge rushers and then release to flat or arrow 3) throw open KG 4) make WFT have to account for Jones in running game 5) do not allow simple man beaters across the middle--- the QB isn't great, make him make great throws. 6) contain logan thomas. none of these are big asks. they are not playing a great opponent.

I hope you’re right. I watched the WFT game and that back up QB wasn’t that bad. Compare him to DJ and your delta between the two isn’t that far off. Our D needs to play lights out.

do worse than 6-10 with their picks?

The fact that Vegas has WFT 3.5 point favorites with Heinicke at QB is something I find surprising. Especially because the Giants have owned WFT the last few years.

I don't like our OL versus WFT's DL. On the other hand, I don't like Heinicke against our D.

So...toss up.

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If the Giants lose this game, most prognosticators will say "I don't see a game I think they can win."

The country will be watching.

Daniel Jones has to make plays when they're available and and not fuck it up. The defense has to show up, prove they can get off the field on 3rd down, and force a couple turnovers. The offense has to protect the QB, not turn the ball over, and score TDs in the red zone.

I am tired of all the analysis "wasn't his fault" type of bull shit excuses that have been made over and over for the past decade. Either things have changed, or they haven't. Who gives a shit what the media, fans, or the fat slob noodle wearing a Philly/Dallas jersey says or thinks. There is nowhere to hide anymore. No excuses "the refs robbed us" BS. I didn't think we'd be here this early in the year, yet here we are. Put up or go home.

Then only is that what they deserve after that first game, but that’s exactly the kind of mentality I want for this team as they head into a very critical year. I want everybody thinking there’s no way they could possibly do it. That’s what build a team mentality that has one before in New York, it’s us against the world.

I want every so-called expert looking at Dallas and the Eagles thinking it’s their division to lose and the Giants are competing with themselves for last place.

Talk is cheap, play the game. Hopefully this perception help them build around each other and develop some grit so at least we can start seeing what we used to call Giants football

This team looked like hot Garbage.

The D can't stop a college team and the O is a mess.

The skins have a top defense and plenty of weapons on offense to put up more than enough points to win.

a bit strange considering we have won 5 in a row against them, they are starting their backup, and we are both 0-1

I missing something or did Washington just lose at home to a team that kept trying to give them the game?

also, fuck Washington.

All you really need is heart
When the odds are sayin' you'll never win
That's when the grin should start

… you’re all singing with me, right?

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The guy does not know how to pass block. Last week he let a blitzer have a free run at DJ. No way in hell he starts for TC Adoree Jackson? Cmon

Actually, Saquon did a decent job blocking in that game, go to the Talkin Giants OL report podcast on YouTube and go to the 29:30 mark.

players start announcing their team as "THE Football team" like Ohio State does, or Miami uses "The U"

And rush their qb. Two huge deficiencies the giants demonstrated, in their home opener…they came out flat, and stayed there. Out played, out coached with a miserable predictable game plan on both sides of the ball…that gotta change, to get a W.

I whole heatedly believe Graham has a bounce back coaching performance, and the Giants win easily.

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All you really need is heart When the odds are sayin' you'll never win That's when the grin should start … you’re all singing with me, right?

is that from the musical "Damn Eagles" ?

is made. "Media is against us, they said we will lose". Do you blame them? What have you seen in the past 10 years(minus 2016) that screams, Giants will dominate.

Until the GMen can prove people wrong, I expect the media to keep going against us.

that routinely gets to enjoy the last laugh at the media's and the experts' expense.

I fucking hate this widespread misusage and over usage of the word "literally."

ENOUGH! Not everyone thinks this, fucking stop! And to the masses of heathens out there that say this when they ate food 4 hours prior:

"I am literally starving to death" --no, you're not!

Use the word when applicable damnit.

would mean not one person in the known universe thinks the Giants can win. Do you really believe that? No, you don't.

...they are just like everyone else; they look at highlights, a team's record, etc. and make a snap decision.

So they see a bunch of lowlights, see a team that was 6-10 last season get curb-stomped by a team that was 5-11 last year, they see that even without Fitzpatrick, Washington scored more points last week than the Giants did, and make their prediction based on that.

They are not looking under the hood, so to speak. The betting lines are probably more accurate than the talking heads; WFT by 3 at home is basically a tossup.

It is not hard to argue that the Giants are talent-wise worse on both sides of the ball, and don't have an edge in coaching either.

Given that, why would you expect a majority of people to pick the Giants to win on the road?

And I am guessing the OP is looking for a majority? It is difficult to tell what is expected when he misused the first word in his post.

2) You saw them Sunday, would you expect many people to get behind them?

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is that from the musical "Damn Eagles" ?

Laughing

People expect bad football team to lose game. More at 11.

Why can't we beat a team we beat twice last year, and who is now starting their backup QB. Its time for Judge to turn this ship around

It's not exactly like the Giants blew them out of the water last year.

Also I was told this was a different team so previous years results don't matter. Or do we get the cherry pick what does and doesn't matter

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in Jones by picking Wash/Heineke who is a backup QB with very little experience over jones. That is what I take from those predictions

That we beat them by 1 with Kyle Allen at QB only because they went for 2 instead of kicking to tie it and then by 3, in a game we probably should have lost as well?

It’s not like we dominated them with backup QBs last year.

Why aren't more people picking a team that has been terrible for a decade in a road game on a short week?

Can't believe the Giants get so little respect.

In comment 15368729 rsjem1979 said:

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Why aren't more people picking a team that has been terrible for a decade in a road game on a short week? Can't believe the Giants get so little respect.

Massive anti-Giants conspiracy

I'm not trying to provoke or be hyperbolic, but since 2017, the Giants have been the worst team in the league with a 18 and 46 record, and a -372 point differential.

I am done viewing this team optimistically. Fans (myself included) are convinced that this team is capable of more. Why do we think that way? The national media, and local reporters have been saying this team is terrible for quite some time, and we all try to dispute it. In reality, they are viewing the team in an unbiased fashion.

If this team wants to gain some national respect, they have to win. And to be brutally honest, I don't know if they can.

What in the world has this team done in the last 4 years to inspire any confidence at all they they are capable of winning an important game?

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to whatever happened the week before. One is not a good sample size in anything.

Is the last 5 or 6 years a good enough sample size?

In comment 15368766 Vin_Cuccs said:

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I'm not trying to provoke or be hyperbolic, but since 2017, the Giants have been the worst team in the league with a 18 and 46 record, and a -372 point differential. I am done viewing this team optimistically. Fans (myself included) are convinced that this team is capable of more. Why do we think that way? The national media, and local reporters have been saying this team is terrible for quite some time, and we all try to dispute it. In reality, they are viewing the team in an unbiased fashion. If this team wants to gain some national respect, they have to win. And to be brutally honest, I don't know if they can. What in the world has this team done in the last 4 years to inspire any confidence at all they they are capable of winning an important game?

EXACTLY!!

One game. Was it bad? Hell yes. It was the first game, preseason included that the 1st string offense was on the field, It was not long ago (couple of weeks) that most of you were very psyched about all of the new players we got in the off-season. They have a lot of proven talented players. They will get significantly better as the season progresses. This is no time to quit on this team. We're all tired of being disappointed, but there is light at the end of the tunnel. It doesn't make sense that they would be worse than last year.

Stupid coaches and stupid players