Significant change for Giants OL vs. Wash. Plan is for Billy Price to start at center, per sources. Nick Gates slides to LG.
Price was acquired via trade just over 2 weeks ago. Gates has started 1 NFL game in NFL at guard. Barkley went for 112 + 2 TDs in that ‘19 win over MIA.
pussies. Dear god, this has been talked about starting as early as last week. If Gates is a top 10 Center (as some here have been saying) as a converted G/T then playing guard should not be a stretch for him.
FYI- Price played against the WFT this summer so he has had exposure to their schemes- albeit not their teue #1's..
If Danny Dimes doesn't shit the bed tonight. We will win
A lot of rotation throughout the line to keep players fresh against that front, hoping some combo works.
What’s the odds DJ mistakenly lines up under Gates once?
A couple of other options that could have worked better but still not ideal.
Thomas, Hernandez, Price, Gates, Solder/Peart
Thomas, Berderson, Price, Hernandez, Gates
Playing gates at RT would be a huge change but can it be that much worse than Solder/Peart looked last week?
Either way need to run a more creative offense as it doesn't matter what combo of oline we use the group won't be dominant like Garrett had in Dallas
Cripes, for years people been talking up the WTF Dline. They are ok...time for the Giants oline to be better.
I do not get the defeatist attitude. Time for some people to step up and play. Lemieux is not an all pro and is injured. They signed 3 new guys for just such cases. Maybe one comes with an attitude and chip on his shoulder looking to get a new contract and Wally Pip Lemieux.
They signed 3 new guys for just such cases. Maybe one comes with an attitude and chip on his shoulder looking to get a new contract and Wally Pip Lemieux.
They went dumpster diving at the end of training camp. Anything can happen, but let's just say it seems less than likely.
“It’s really apparent that we have a little more confidence in our offensive linemen than you guys do. So I’m just going to say we’re happy with the group that we have."
They signed 3 new guys for just such cases. Maybe one comes with an attitude and chip on his shoulder looking to get a new contract and Wally Pip Lemieux.
They went dumpster diving at the end of training camp. Anything can happen, but let's just say it seems less than likely.
I bet that the dumpster divees are better backups than what they had last year as backups by a long shot. One may actually be better than Lemieux and probably is.
The one problem is communication and the play book. These guys have been around. Terminology is different, but the way a play is blocked is the same.
Yes it will be tough and mistakes will be made but that is what happens with injuries in the NFL.
About this lineup change, Price has experience playing
All interior OL positions. So the natural thought is to just insert him as LG and minimize disruption. Judge and the OL coaches must have seen something to eschew the obvious lineup. They’d better be right, as in Gates doesn’t mess up too often.
“It’s really apparent that we have a little more confidence in our offensive linemen than you guys do. So I’m just going to say we’re happy with the group that we have."
I guess we're ignoring that there's an injury that's at least significantly contributing to the shuffle right now?
what I was expecting. I didn't think they'd move Gates off C given that Price has been here for just a few weeks. But as someone else noted, Gates can still make the line calls.
Let's go.
We've gotten to the point with our OL where now we're like...
With gaping holes on the roster at LG, RG and RT... if Price can play Center and Gates can play LG, cool and all, but the right side of our OL will still be a mess for like the 11th straight season with no answer in sight.
likely out for majority of the season I'd rather try and roll with a 1st round type talent and see if our coaches can get the best of him. Leonard Williams anyone?
With gaping holes on the roster at LG, RG and RT... if Price can play Center and Gates can play LG, cool and all, but the right side of our OL will still be a mess for like the 11th straight season with no answer in sight.
All interior OL positions. So the natural thought is to just insert him as LG and minimize disruption. Judge and the OL coaches must have seen something to eschew the obvious lineup. They’d better be right, as in Gates doesn’t mess up too often.
They may rotate Cs like they rotate guards.
Perhaps Price is a better C than guard and Gates is better at guard than Price. They rotate players Bredesen, Gates, Hernandez and now Price.
Price was acquired via trade just over 2 weeks ago. Gates has started 1 NFL game in NFL at guard. Barkley went for 112 + 2 TDs in that ‘19 win over MIA.
FYI- Price played against the WFT this summer so he has had exposure to their schemes- albeit not their teue #1's..
What’s the odds DJ mistakenly lines up under Gates once?
That didn-t stop an offense with a banged up OL last week.
Price is a center.
I do look forward to some running plays to the left side now.
Agreed. As I mentioned before, he played the WFT during the preseason so at least has exposure to their schemes- if not their #1's..
Gates could still do the line calls at guard.
Thomas, Hernandez, Price, Gates, Solder/Peart
Thomas, Berderson, Price, Hernandez, Gates
Playing gates at RT would be a huge change but can it be that much worse than Solder/Peart looked last week?
Either way need to run a more creative offense as it doesn't matter what combo of oline we use the group won't be dominant like Garrett had in Dallas
Lemieux is out tonight.
Replace him with who, air?
That beast line didn't do that well last year...
Cripes, for years people been talking up the WTF Dline. They are ok...time for the Giants oline to be better.
I do not get the defeatist attitude. Time for some people to step up and play. Lemieux is not an all pro and is injured. They signed 3 new guys for just such cases. Maybe one comes with an attitude and chip on his shoulder looking to get a new contract and Wally Pip Lemieux.
They went dumpster diving at the end of training camp. Anything can happen, but let's just say it seems less than likely.
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Hernandez is on a short leash too
Replace him with who, air?
Bredeson
OR- they didn't want a guy who was going to leave them at the end of the year or pay a ton of money to when they could get draft capital for him now.
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Hernandez is on a short leash too
Replace him with who, air?
Yes, air. Good idea.
that we've handled well the past 5 games
He was going to leave, yes. He was going to leave because it was clear he wasn't going to get on the field for them.
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They signed 3 new guys for just such cases. Maybe one comes with an attitude and chip on his shoulder looking to get a new contract and Wally Pip Lemieux.
They went dumpster diving at the end of training camp. Anything can happen, but let's just say it seems less than likely.
I bet that the dumpster divees are better backups than what they had last year as backups by a long shot. One may actually be better than Lemieux and probably is.
The one problem is communication and the play book. These guys have been around. Terminology is different, but the way a play is blocked is the same.
Yes it will be tough and mistakes will be made but that is what happens with injuries in the NFL.
I guess we're ignoring that there's an injury that's at least significantly contributing to the shuffle right now?
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that we've handled well the past 5 games
They had 5 sacks in the last meeting.
Got it, guys?
Let's go.
With gaping holes on the roster at LG, RG and RT... if Price can play Center and Gates can play LG, cool and all, but the right side of our OL will still be a mess for like the 11th straight season with no answer in sight.
He was going to leave, yes. He was going to leave because it was clear he wasn't going to get on the field for them.
Again, they got something they needed and so did we.
With gaping holes on the roster at LG, RG and RT... if Price can play Center and Gates can play LG, cool and all, but the right side of our OL will still be a mess for like the 11th straight season with no answer in sight.
Agreed.
Got it, guys?
Perfect
They may rotate Cs like they rotate guards.
Perhaps Price is a better C than guard and Gates is better at guard than Price. They rotate players Bredesen, Gates, Hernandez and now Price.