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One bright spot: Daniel Jones

nygiants16 : 9/16/2021 11:55 pm
he balled out tonight, he carried that offense, he deserved that win..
I agree.  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 9/16/2021 11:55 pm : link

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Andrew Thomas…  
2ndroundKO : 9/16/2021 11:56 pm : link
was brilliant tonight.
Best game of his career  
GiantsFan84 : 9/16/2021 11:56 pm : link
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BleedBlue : 9/16/2021 11:56 pm : link
he looked awesome against a good washington defense on the road too.


Jones was NOT EVEN close to the problem should have had 300 yards and 2 TDs with 95 on ground and a TD.

NO TURNOVERS. that was a great game for him. shame how it ended and damn shame slayton dropped that
Damn right...  
bluewave : 9/16/2021 11:56 pm : link
He should have had 300 yards passing with 2 TDs and over 100 yards rushing with 2 rushing TDs. IMHO this rivals the Bucaneers game in his debut besides the fact he came out with the win!
Looks good when the OL gives him time  
KevinBBWC : 9/16/2021 11:56 pm : link
but still don't trust Garrett. Wish they get rid of him.
The team and coaching staff are letting DJ down  
nym172 : 9/16/2021 11:56 pm : link
Not the ohter way around.

Saquon is the most overrated player in the nfl.
I've been saying it forever, DJ can play and has potential to be VERY  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/16/2021 11:58 pm : link
good. Garrett called a much better game tonight and I don't blame him for Judge being a henpecked pussy at the end. God damn how am I going to sleep tonight.
Yes. Give me the second half Daniel Jones  
St. Jimmy : 9/16/2021 11:58 pm : link
and let the rest work itself out.
Jines played great  
GMEN46 : 9/16/2021 11:58 pm : link
He had time which is what every qb needs. Let’s relax on barkley, give him a few weeks to get the rust off, he will be fine.

The only thing I don’t understand is where are the screen passes to barkley?

Also who does golladay think he is yelling at jones, he missed on 3-4 catchable balls tonight.
His first half was very shaky  
GNewGiants : 9/16/2021 11:58 pm : link
2nd half he was balls out.
If the offense plays like that every game  
nygiants16 : 9/16/2021 11:59 pm : link
They will win some games, Gianta should of had 40 points kf it wasnt for the officials and a drop/slightly over thrown ball
Just said...  
bw in dc : 9/16/2021 11:59 pm : link
he played like an NFL QB. But keep in mind he always plays well against WFT. He owns them...
RE: His first half was very shaky  
PatersonPlank : 9/17/2021 12:00 am : link
In comment 15372219 GNewGiants said:
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2nd half he was balls out.


1st half was good. He completed a high % of passes, and also ran for 70 yards. They just didn't throw it as much.
Wished  
Southern Man : 9/17/2021 12:01 am : link
he got a win this game, he deserved it
RE: His first half was very shaky  
section125 : 9/17/2021 12:01 am : link
In comment 15372219 GNewGiants said:
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2nd half he was balls out.


I guess the TD pass to Slayton was shaky.

Once the oline got settled he was very good.
Jones  
Archer : 9/17/2021 12:02 am : link
Jones was great

You can see how good he can be when he is allowed to ball

If you add 20 more yards on his td run and 50 yards and add a dropped TD to Slayton his stats would be crazy

He would have been 350 yards passing 2 TDs and 115 yards rushing and a TD




RE: RE: His first half was very shaky  
GNewGiants : 9/17/2021 12:03 am : link
In comment 15372277 section125 said:
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In comment 15372219 GNewGiants said:


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2nd half he was balls out.



I guess the TD pass to Slayton was shaky.

Once the oline got settled he was very good.


TD pass was in the third quarter.
He put tbe team on his back  
rnargi : 9/17/2021 12:04 am : link
...golladay had 3 drops Slayton had 2. Incredible performance by DJ
DJ  
Giantophile : 9/17/2021 12:04 am : link
Was excellent tonight. Just excellent. That's a real positive.
Yup - good game by Jones.  
trueblueinpw : 9/17/2021 12:05 am : link
Took a step I’d say. I thought the line pass blocked well. Not so much with the run blocking.
Good game by him  
jrthomps2006 : 9/17/2021 12:10 am : link
Love the RPO and he was slinging it tonight. We’ve seen flashes - needs to build on it. He’s not been anything close to consistent.
Nu uh.  
Johnny5 : 9/17/2021 12:12 am : link
Daniel Jones sucks and will never be a good NFL starter.

- Terps
- Christian
- BW
Jones had a good game  
WillVAB : 9/17/2021 12:13 am : link
And the OL was solid.
RE: Nu uh.  
bw in dc : 9/17/2021 12:13 am : link
In comment 15372442 Johnny5 said:
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Daniel Jones sucks and will never be a good NFL starter.

- Terps
- Christian
- BW


He played well for sure. He has WFT's number. Looks at his career numbers versus them...
RE: Nu uh.  
Go Terps : 9/17/2021 12:14 am : link
In comment 15372442 Johnny5 said:
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Daniel Jones sucks and will never be a good NFL starter.

- Terps
- Christian
- BW


Enjoy your moral victory.

The best thing about Jones is his running. The entire offense should be built on that.
If the OL functions decently then I think Jones can play like  
PatersonPlank : 9/17/2021 12:18 am : link
this consistently.
RE: RE: Nu uh.  
Johnny5 : 9/17/2021 12:19 am : link
In comment 15372477 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15372442 Johnny5 said:


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Daniel Jones sucks and will never be a good NFL starter.

- Terps
- Christian
- BW



Enjoy your moral victory.

The best thing about Jones is his running. The entire offense should be built on that.

Moral victory? I am fucking fuming right now. I can't imagine I am going to get much sleep after that shit show. AGAIN.
RE: RE: Nu uh.  
Producer : 9/17/2021 12:20 am : link
In comment 15372477 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15372442 Johnny5 said:


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Daniel Jones sucks and will never be a good NFL starter.

- Terps
- Christian
- BW



Enjoy your moral victory.

The best thing about Jones is his running. The entire offense should be built on that.


It is the best thing he does and it nets real chunk yardage. They don't seem to know how to defend his running.
He  
AcidTest : 9/17/2021 12:34 am : link
was terrific. he seemed to do a better job in the second half going through his progressions. Whether he can continue to play this well is an unknown. But this was certainly one of his best games. His WRs really let him down.
RE: RE: Nu uh.  
Scuzzlebutt : 9/17/2021 12:43 am : link
In comment 15372477 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15372442 Johnny5 said:


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Daniel Jones sucks and will never be a good NFL starter.

- Terps
- Christian
- BW



Enjoy your moral victory.

The best thing about Jones is his running. The entire offense should be built on that.


You are clearly disappointed that he played well. Admit it - you would rather see him fail and be right than watch him succeed and prove you wrong.
Jones aggregate stats...  
bw in dc : 9/17/2021 1:15 am : link
in five career starts v WFT.

Record: 4-1

Completions: 108
Attempts: 158
Yards: 1,150
Completion %: 68.4
QBR: 70+
TD: 10
INTs: 3
Rushes/Yards: 30/218

Like I said, he owns them...
RE: Nu uh.  
christian : 9/17/2021 1:28 am : link
In comment 15372442 Johnny5 said:
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Daniel Jones sucks and will never be a good NFL starter.

- Terps
- Christian
- BW


How have I not managed to notice you all these years, and you be so wrong all of the time?

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Half Way Mark - What Have We Learned?

christian : 11/1/2019 10:59 am
- Daniel Jones has all the tools to be a good NFL quarterback. He's got plenty of things to improve on, but he belongs.


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until preseason.
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christian : 4/5/2021 9:42 am : link
I’ve always maintained Jones has the requisite skills to be a good not great QB. For me it’s always 1) coaching 2) stability of the program.

By stability, I mean is management not panicking, is there a logical architectural plan for the offense etc.

Plenty of guys in Jones’s talent band have taken teams to the playoffs.


The RPO  
Les in TO : 9/17/2021 5:53 am : link
And up tempo offense really plays to his strengths.
He played well overall, but 3 of the 4 sacks were on him.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/17/2021 6:28 am : link
One of those sacks cost them a FG attempt after the long Barkley run.

Please let Freddie Kitchens call the plays sometime soon. Maybe Jones could be even better if it wasn’t 2nd & 15 after some asinine playcall by Garrett so often.
RE: RE: Nu uh.  
Johnny5 : 9/17/2021 3:02 pm : link
In comment 15372840 christian said:
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In comment 15372442 Johnny5 said:


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Daniel Jones sucks and will never be a good NFL starter.

- Terps
- Christian
- BW



How have I not managed to notice you all these years, and you be so wrong all of the time?



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Half Way Mark - What Have We Learned?

christian : 11/1/2019 10:59 am
- Daniel Jones has all the tools to be a good NFL quarterback. He's got plenty of things to improve on, but he belongs.





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until preseason.
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christian : 4/5/2021 9:42 am : link
I’ve always maintained Jones has the requisite skills to be a good not great QB. For me it’s always 1) coaching 2) stability of the program.

By stability, I mean is management not panicking, is there a logical architectural plan for the offense etc.

Plenty of guys in Jones’s talent band have taken teams to the playoffs.



lol. Did I strike a nerve?
I generally think Jones is not good  
Jerry in_DC : 9/17/2021 3:22 pm : link
But he was really good last night. Shouldn't be hard to say that. Same as the guys who think he's good shouldn't have a problem saying he played bad when that happens.

That game last night was how good QBs play on a regular basis. For Jones, it was probably the best game of his career. But if he plays like that on a regular basis, he will go from being a bad QB to a good QB. I'm not optimistic that it will happen but I'd like to see it.
just for clarification  
BillKo : 9/17/2021 3:24 pm : link
...is this really the RPO Jones is using to break these runs. I see people using that term.

Looks to me there's no option to pass, but it's simply an option run. Either the back runs it, or Jones does.
RE: He played well overall, but 3 of the 4 sacks were on him.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/17/2021 3:25 pm : link
In comment 15372981 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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One of those sacks cost them a FG attempt after the long Barkley run.

Please let Freddie Kitchens call the plays sometime soon. Maybe Jones could be even better if it wasn’t 2nd & 15 after some asinine playcall by Garrett so often.


How do you know that without the All 22? In fact one they showed on 3rd down with the QB cam at first I thought it was on him, but Rudolph literally ran the wrong route and would have been up on 3rd. Instead of throwing a pick and forcing it, he ate it. It's why having players matters, and why we had like no TDs last year. It's good to see the line pass protecting better though. The play calling helped a helluva lot there by actually throwing the ball on first down.
RE: RE: He played well overall, but 3 of the 4 sacks were on him.  
rsjem1979 : 9/17/2021 3:31 pm : link
In comment 15374601 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 15372981 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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One of those sacks cost them a FG attempt after the long Barkley run.

Please let Freddie Kitchens call the plays sometime soon. Maybe Jones could be even better if it wasn’t 2nd & 15 after some asinine playcall by Garrett so often.



How do you know that without the All 22? In fact one they showed on 3rd down with the QB cam at first I thought it was on him, but Rudolph literally ran the wrong route and would have been up on 3rd. Instead of throwing a pick and forcing it, he ate it. It's why having players matters, and why we had like no TDs last year. It's good to see the line pass protecting better though. The play calling helped a helluva lot there by actually throwing the ball on first down.


That Rudolph route was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. If he breaks to the middle of the field it's a 30-yard gain.
Here are Jones's splits...  
bw in dc : 9/17/2021 3:38 pm : link
for his career. All games excluding WFT and games only against WFT.

All games excluding WFT:

Completions: 500
Attempts: 818
Yards: 5,336
YPA: 6.52
TDs: 27
INTs:19
QBR: 50ish
Rushing yards: 606
Yards per rush: 6.4


Just WFT games:

Completions: 108
Attempts: 158
Yards: 1,150
YPA: 7.27
TDs: 10
INTs: 3
QBR: 70+
Rushing Yards: 218
Yard per rush: 7+

Pretty noticeable disparity here. Like I said, Jones just has WFT's number. And five games is pretty solid sample out of his 29 games.
One game shining moments are ok  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2021 3:40 pm : link
But we are in year three. He should be expected to have games like this each week. This was a well-played game and credit to him. This needs to be the standard, not the exception.
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