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Was the replacement OL better than the "starters"?

David B. : 9/17/2021 12:17 am
Aikman was right. Through much of the game Jones had more time to throw than he's ever had throughout his pro career.

It certainly wasn't perfect (ORT is still weak), but it seemed to me they did better in pass protection with Price and Bredeson in there than the were doing with Gates and Lemieux.

If so, you have to wonder why the coaches didn't see it before the injuries.
Price to the naked eye  
GNewGiants : 9/17/2021 12:18 am : link
Was fucking awful. Brederson didn’t look too bad.
I don’t think Price was bad  
Vanzetti : 9/17/2021 12:20 am : link
He was good in pass pro.
the pass protection in the second half was way better  
islander1 : 9/17/2021 12:21 am : link
but the run blocking was every bit as atrocious.
Pass pro was good  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2021 12:23 am : link
Run blocking was terrible.

I've thought the Skins D has been overrated for a while. IIRC their ballyhooed DL didn't get much pressure even against last season's shitty DL, did they?
I hate to say it  
montanagiant : 9/17/2021 12:23 am : link
But they seemed to give DJ more time to throw the ball. I'm going to leave it to the O-Line experts on here to digest what they did
RE: Price to the naked eye  
section125 : 9/17/2021 12:24 am : link
In comment 15372519 GNewGiants said:
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Was fucking awful. Brederson didn’t look too bad.


No he wasn't...OP was right, I thought once they got over the shock of Gates broken leg, the played better. Aikman also said Gates was getting shove backwards by the DTs.

Also remember Price and Bredesen just got there 15 days ago and have had about 5 or 6 practices. You would think they will get better with more time together.
I was not unimpressed.
They played ok  
Mike from Ohio : 9/17/2021 12:28 am : link
but I thin’ what you are going to see over the course of this year is that Washington’s DLine is very overrated. I watched the game against San Diego last week and the pay were largely invisible.

Chase Young is a guy who has 5 incredible plays a game, and disappears for most of the rest. He is dominant occasionally and ordinary most of the time.
The OL has been decent so far...  
BillKo : 9/17/2021 12:29 am : link
...running wise, they'll probably get better too.

Still worried about ancillary blocking, Barkley I believe missed an easy blitz pickup tonight, blocking to the wrong side.
Thought Andrew Thomas had an awful  
barens : 9/17/2021 12:30 am : link
Game. False starts, he got beat a lot.
I haven't gone back and rewatched gates injury yet  
Giants_West : 9/17/2021 12:31 am : link
But from what i saw he was getting pushed back consistently by the dts prior. If that ends up contributing to his injury than moving him from center might be the worst decision Joe Judge has made as a coach. He was playing center at a pro bowl level and Bredson(sp?) didn't look terrible last week. I hated that change when I read about it and if it cost us Gates for the season that is a huge blow.
As a unit...  
bw in dc : 9/17/2021 12:32 am : link
they were terrific in PP in the second half. Made up for a lot of sloppiness in the first half.

Which, to be honest, was to be expected with such a makeshift situation. And then Gates twisted his leg like a pretzel...
Better in pass protection  
Matt M. : 9/17/2021 12:35 am : link
not in run blocking. But, I also don't love the playcalling, especially in the running game and I think that is a factor.
RE: I haven't gone back and rewatched gates injury yet  
section125 : 9/17/2021 12:38 am : link
In comment 15372638 Giants_West said:
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But from what i saw he was getting pushed back consistently by the dts prior. If that ends up contributing to his injury than moving him from center might be the worst decision Joe Judge has made as a coach. He was playing center at a pro bowl level and Bredson(sp?) didn't look terrible last week. I hated that change when I read about it and if it cost us Gates for the season that is a huge blow.


It may be a blow, but the line that finished the game was better than the line that started the game and the line that played last week...

I will wait to see what Sy'56 says about the line and Bobby at Talkin' Giants. But they were good in pass pro and should have been better in run blocking. Run blocking may be because of lack of playing time together.

Looked like they gave both Thomas and Solder  
mfsd : 9/17/2021 12:39 am : link
a lot of help on the edge. And it mostly worked
 
christian : 9/17/2021 12:51 am : link
Two guys weren’t even on the roster in August, and they got thrown in there. The two new guys did fine all things considered.
RE: I haven't gone back and rewatched gates injury yet  
mittenedman : 9/17/2021 12:54 am : link
In comment 15372638 Giants_West said:
Quote:
But from what i saw he was getting pushed back consistently by the dts prior. If that ends up contributing to his injury than moving him from center might be the worst decision Joe Judge has made as a coach. He was playing center at a pro bowl level and Bredson(sp?) didn't look terrible last week. I hated that change when I read about it and if it cost us Gates for the season that is a huge blow.


Agreed. And not only that - Bredeson stepped in and played well. They would've been fine just doing that instead of moving Gates. Everything this team does blows up in its face.
Maybe Penny needs to be more of a lead back in the I.....  
Simms11 : 9/17/2021 12:57 am : link
They haven’t used the traditional FB in a while, but the running game has to get going somehow. Right side of Oline still a circus too.
RE: Price to the naked eye  
FranknWeezer : 9/17/2021 12:58 am : link
In comment 15372519 GNewGiants said:
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Was fucking awful. Brederson didn’t look too bad.


O’Hara complimented Price on the post game show. So, um, nope.
Seemed like Jones had a pocket  
mattlawson : 9/17/2021 2:47 am : link
After the change. He actually started to look like aQB
Best Pass Protectikn game  
Dankbeerman : 9/17/2021 8:04 am : link
in a long time but it was in no way great. They still got a lot of push and rushed throws but thankfully nobody was running free, besides the DB on the Blitz.

Its amazing what a difference is made by getting half way decent protection.
They look better in pass protection  
GmanND : 9/17/2021 8:10 am : link
because WFT usually only bring 4 and don't do much stunting. When they brought an extra man there was instant pressure and/ora sack. When they face a team that stunts they'll look like they always do.
it is hard to judge run blocking  
hitdog42 : 9/17/2021 8:13 am : link
when barkley runs the way he does.
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