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GNewGiants : 9/17/2021 5:59 am
- If we get that DJ for the rest of the year, we will win some games and not worry about drafting a QB. Let’s hope moving forward there are many more games like this.

- If Graham and Judge decided Peppers would be a situational player like he has been, why was he not traded after his value was at his highest? Peppers has flaws, but if they are more comfortable wit Tae Crowder in the game (he was horrific last night) then we missed an opportunity to get something for Peppers.

- The OL pass protection was something of beauty last night especially in the 2nd half.

- Our three main coaches have been thoroughly out coached the first two games of the year. That has been my biggest take away and most concerning thing. Garrett calls a scared game, Graham has been beaten by mediocre at best QBs, and Judge just look woefully underprepared and coaches not to lose. The team doesn’t have much talent - but the coaches haven’t been useful at all this season.

- Shepard has been a stud this year.

- A lot of money has been invested in the secondary and them playing 15-20 yards off makes very little sense to me.

- CJ Board was cut, moved around the practice squad, and still got more touches and playing time than Toney. The holding call was iffy however he gets a lot of snaps it seems like for a guy who is a ST at best.

- Missed opportunity to Slayton has pretty much summed up the Giants for the last 10 years - wouldn’t you say?
Slayton  
madeinstars : 9/17/2021 6:02 am : link
Is one of DG's better draft picks. Let that sink in.
#2  
ajr2456 : 9/17/2021 6:02 am : link
Is simple. Gettleman has no idea what he’s fucking doing.

As for number one, if they don’t get this Jones night in and night out we’ll be picking top 3. He’s never shown that consistency so we better brace for the worst here.
RE: #2  
GNewGiants : 9/17/2021 6:05 am : link
In comment 15372961 ajr2456 said:
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Is simple. Gettleman has no idea what he’s fucking doing.

As for number one, if they don’t get this Jones night in and night out we’ll be picking top 3. He’s never shown that consistency so we better brace for the worst here.


I am not sure not trading Peppers is a DG negative - I mean the coaches have to tell him to find a suitor first. All the talk was how important and a main cog he is - yet he rarely plays? I mean I’m not saying he was all-pro last year but he made a lot of plays and his value was never higher.
No pass rush and no coverage  
jeff57 : 9/17/2021 6:12 am : link
Is not a recipe for victory.
Coaching is what surprises me the most  
GuzzaBlue : 9/17/2021 6:18 am : link
I had a feeling during the entire preseason that this team was under-prepared and not from the lack of playing time either. From what you heard about mini-camp and practice, lots of focus on conditioning and ST's.

Here are a few things that I really don't get...
Why is the entire offense run out of shotgun? First run of the game set a nice tempo (5 yard run inside). Why not establish that and get play action going? Gilbrides signature shotgun draw has been a staple of this offense for how long now.

Can we play press man coverage and blitz? Why give a backup QB who's smart and knows the playbook, time to scan his reads on almost every play.


On a good note, the line played great at times especially in pass pro. We lose our best lineman and have two cast-offs in to fill-in this week, and probably looked better as a unit since JJ took over. Don't get that, but hope we found a few guys who can play. I was blown away by the protection on a bunch of plays I can remember. Impressive against their Dline.







Agree on all counts.....  
George from PA : 9/17/2021 6:24 am : link
Pepper is our best blitzer....and our best hitter. Understand he shortfalls....Crowder is not better....negotiating a lower deal? Confusing.....he at least dictates....

This defense is passive...

You can not play bend do not break defense AND safe consevertive offense.....someone must make plays. Hoping the other team screws up is not a strategy.


The coaches are primary reason for 0-2 start.

The series after INT....Judge admitting his goal was to have them use TOs.... but with the 2 min TO and only needing a FG. Time was not an issue?...maybe after getting a 1st down..get clock below a minute...I might agree.

I fear Judge is a "dumb" hard nose, old school coach who happens to speak well.
A Tom Coughlin  
cjac : 9/17/2021 7:05 am : link
Coached team never loses that game
I agree with most of that  
Matt M. : 9/17/2021 7:16 am : link
A few exceptions. I do not think it is fair to say we don't have a lot of talent on this team. A lot people are saying the same thing. But, on offense we have Barkley, Golladay, Shepard, Rudolph, Slayton, Toney, Jones. That is decent talent. On D we have Williams, Lawrence, Martinez, Jackson, Bradberry, McKinney, Peppers, Logan. Again, not devoid of talent. Plus we have one of the top PKs in the game and a decent P. We may not be a very deep team, but the starting units are above average in talent.

Another, if we get this Jones all season, I agree we will be in position to win a few. But, this D and overall coaching will costs us more games than he will win.

Biggest point I do agree on is coaching. I said the same thing last night. All 3 of them have been outcoached in both games. It's embarrassing. Coaching not to lose is terrible. And, I like the way one poster termed it last night after the INT. That series was coached for the lead, not for the win. Big difference, and potentially a huge difference.
RE: A Tom Coughlin  
nygiants16 : 9/17/2021 7:20 am : link
In comment 15373006 cjac said:
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Coached team never loses that game


Really? are we going to forfet all the brutal losses the giants had under Coughlin?
RE: A Tom Coughlin  
DannyDimes : 9/17/2021 8:18 am : link
In comment 15373006 cjac said:
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Coached team never loses that game


8 point lead against the Titans at home, one possession left. Titans drive right down the field, get a TD, make the 2 point play and win in OT. So yeah, you're an idiot....
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